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Title: Montana Sheep - Who's in?
Post by: Dansk on April 04, 2010, 10:09:00 PM: Curious to know how many hunt-wa members put in... and what units.

Premium units w/long odds, or average w/not-as-long odds?

I'm in for Grave Creek (203)...
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Post by: Bigshooter on April 04, 2010, 10:20:28 PM: 680
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Post by: starbailey on April 05, 2010, 08:18:19 AM: I'm in. Long odds for big rams!
Bryan
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 05, 2010, 09:29:34 AM: Ill be in for something.
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Post by: pat2bear on April 05, 2010, 10:54:37 AM: I think I'll be putting in for both goat and sheep this year. Mainly to start building points so I'll put in for the premium units since there's no points only option.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2010, 11:01:45 AM: what does it cost to apply for sheep/goat in montana i have never looked to see. i got enough money going out on hunts this year and if i draw the multi tags theres another 180 each :yike: and i got to start saving to get my and my wife back to nz next year :yike: if it aint to bad i might start putting in. thanks guys/gals
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 05, 2010, 11:58:18 AM: Yea I will be putting in again.It's a spendy month with Nevada tags also.
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Post by: 180-GRAIN on April 05, 2010, 12:54:11 PM: I put in for sheep and moose again this year, premium areas.
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Post by: videoman on April 05, 2010, 05:25:13 PM: 9pts into 680
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Post by: Craig on April 05, 2010, 06:29:04 PM: I will be in for moose, sheep, and goat later. This month.
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Post by: Ridgerunner on April 05, 2010, 09:24:49 PM: I'll be in, not sure of the unit yet though, have it narrowed down to 3.
Title: Re: Montana Sheep - Who's in?
Post by: Dansk on April 05, 2010, 09:29:53 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2010, 11:01:45 AM
what does it cost to apply for sheep/goat in montana i have never looked to see. i got enough money going out on hunts this year and if i draw the multi tags theres another 180 each :yike: and i got to start saving to get my and my wife back to nz next year :yike: if it aint to bad i might start putting in. thanks guys/gals

About $800.
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Post by: norsepeak on April 05, 2010, 09:38:32 PM: I'm in for sheep/goat/moose...again :bash: Can't give up on my points. :'(
Title: Re: Montana Sheep - Who's in?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2010, 09:57:32 PM: Quote from: Dansk on April 05, 2010, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2010, 11:01:45 AM
what does it cost to apply for sheep/goat in montana i have never looked to see. i got enough money going out on hunts this year and if i draw the multi tags theres another 180 each :yike: and i got to start saving to get my and my wife back to nz next year :yike: if it aint to bad i might start putting in. thanks guys/gals

About $800.

but you get back all but like 5 or 10 right so it does not cost that much unless you draw right? i went and looked i think it is like 755 if i read right.
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Post by: boneaddict on April 06, 2010, 06:53:15 AM: I'm with Norse....in on all three. Haven't picked the unit yet.
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Post by: PacificNWhunter on April 06, 2010, 07:14:12 AM: Quote from: Skyvalhunter on April 05, 2010, 11:58:18 AM
Yea I will be putting in again.It's a spendy month with Nevada tags also.

Not sure I am in this year, kinda a bad month with Colorado, Idaho and Nevada all due.
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Post by: Ranger91298 on April 06, 2010, 07:33:37 AM: It's funny, I was just looking at these hunts last night online but have no idea where to even put in for... any ideas?
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Post by: Elkstuffer on April 06, 2010, 08:54:52 AM: Quote from: Ranger91298 on April 06, 2010, 07:33:37 AM
It's funny, I was just looking at these hunts last night online but have no idea where to even put in for... any ideas?

They change most of the units that nonresidents can put in for every year. The complete list is on the back of the nonres application.

I'm puttng in for all three again this year. 8 points going in for sheep and moose and 4 for goat.

Sheep in #124 mainly because of the sheep pop. and I know the area.
Moose in #102 best unit in the state
Goat in #313 again because of the population of goats

Good luck everyone!
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 06, 2010, 09:01:20 AM: Im going to apply for the unit with the best odds outside of the unlimited stuff :)
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Post by: KimberRich on April 06, 2010, 09:09:32 AM: Whats the deadline for the sheep/moose/goat??
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Post by: Elkstuffer on April 06, 2010, 10:34:08 AM: May 1st
Title: Re: Montana Sheep - Who's in?
Post by: Ranger91298 on April 06, 2010, 02:13:44 PM: Quote from: Elkstuffer on April 06, 2010, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: Ranger91298 on April 06, 2010, 07:33:37 AM
It's funny, I was just looking at these hunts last night online but have no idea where to even put in for... any ideas?

They change most of the units that nonresidents can put in for every year. The complete list is on the back of the nonres application.

I'm puttng in for all three again this year. 8 points going in for sheep and moose and 4 for goat.

Sheep in #124 mainly because of the sheep pop. and I know the area.
Moose in #102 best unit in the state
Goat in #313 again because of the population of goats

Good luck everyone!
ElkStuffer,

Thanks for the info, I am going to go back and look tonight at the regulations and do some more homework. How many points do you need to have a serious chance to getting drawn or is just pure dumb luck to get them?
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Post by: Elkstuffer on April 08, 2010, 08:14:20 PM: Ranger, Goat has your best odds. I know a guy that lives in Kalispell that has drawn 3 goat tags so far. Last year he drew sheep with max points and I still don't think that he's drawn moose. He's convinced that he'll draw another goat tag before he draws another sheep or first moose. That being said...someone has to draw. 10% of the tags in each region go to nonres. It's the cheapest OIL tag that you can draw and the conservation tag (hunting license) is only $10 as apposed to NV and AZ $150+ nonrefundable licenses. Just start banking your points. someday it will pay off. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Post by: Dansk on April 11, 2010, 09:55:17 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2010, 09:57:32 PM
Quote from: Dansk on April 05, 2010, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2010, 11:01:45 AM
what does it cost to apply for sheep/goat in montana i have never looked to see. i got enough money going out on hunts this year and if i draw the multi tags theres another 180 each :yike: and i got to start saving to get my and my wife back to nz next year :yike: if it aint to bad i might start putting in. thanks guys/gals

About $800.

but you get back all but like 5 or 10 right so it does not cost that much unless you draw right? i went and looked i think it is like 755 if i read right.

+ $20 to participate in bonus point system
+ $10 conservation lisence
+ $15 fee (2-3% online processing fee - don't have to pay if you send in a m/o or cashier's check)
~$800

I think you get back $750 after it's all said and done.
Title: Re: Montana Sheep - Who's in?
Post by: Dansk on April 11, 2010, 09:57:54 PM: Quote from: Ranger91298 on April 06, 2010, 02:13:44 PM
Quote from: Elkstuffer on April 06, 2010, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: Ranger91298 on April 06, 2010, 07:33:37 AM
It's funny, I was just looking at these hunts last night online but have no idea where to even put in for... any ideas?

They change most of the units that nonresidents can put in for every year. The complete list is on the back of the nonres application.

I'm puttng in for all three again this year. 8 points going in for sheep and moose and 4 for goat.

Sheep in #124 mainly because of the sheep pop. and I know the area.
Moose in #102 best unit in the state
Goat in #313 again because of the population of goats

Good luck everyone!
ElkStuffer,

Thanks for the info, I am going to go back and look tonight at the regulations and do some more homework. How many points do you need to have a serious chance to getting drawn or is just pure dumb luck to get them?

I'ts kinda like WA - you can draw with 0 points and not ever get drawn with max points.
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Post by: actionshooter on April 11, 2010, 10:08:54 PM: Sheep for sure, probably all three. Not sure which units yet, need to call a buddy in Seeley Lake. This hunting crap is getting pretty damn expensive........... :rolleyes:
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Post by: shanevg on April 12, 2010, 07:53:21 AM: I am in for sheep and goat this year for the first time. I am just hoping to build points for the future at this point so I'll be in for the worst draw odds. Once I actually have vacation time, I will put infor units with the best odd outside of unlimited tag units.
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Post by: boneaddict on April 12, 2010, 12:02:28 PM: Tell me about it. Fronted NM this month, Fronted CO this month, Montana, Idaho and Nevada all coming due. PRETTY BAD when you have to spread it out over multiple credit cards. :yike:
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 12, 2010, 12:11:18 PM: Don't forget about NV this month. This is a spendy time!!
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Post by: MuleySniper on April 12, 2010, 12:17:51 PM: Quote from: Skyvalhunter on April 12, 2010, 12:11:18 PM
Don't forget about NV this month. This is a spendy time!!

Just did it....
Deer
Elk
Antelope
Cali Ram
Desert Ram
Phewww!
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Post by: boneaddict on April 12, 2010, 12:19:58 PM: what, no goat
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Post by: MuleySniper on April 12, 2010, 12:42:03 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on April 12, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
what, no goat

Thought about it then decided nah... Probably should of, better odds of drawing then up here. Just the other stuff was over $200.
MS
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Post by: boneaddict on April 12, 2010, 12:45:27 PM: ITs never ending. I keep the thought, if I have my name in one more hat maybe I'll draw....same with supertags. UGhhhhhhhh
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Post by: Wea300mag on April 12, 2010, 07:13:34 PM: I'm putting in for moose and sheep in MT. I see they cut back on a lot of areas to where us out of staters can't even put in. The moose area I've applied for the last several years changed from 10 to 8 permits. :bash:
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Post by: high country on April 12, 2010, 07:39:53 PM: I have been researching the unlimiteds for a few years now. I am planning a hunt next year. this is the put money in my pocket year :rolleyes:
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Post by: boneaddict on April 13, 2010, 08:47:50 AM: I was going to do that this year, but going in with limited vacation and I haven't come to terms with burning my points yet.
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Post by: Ridgerunner on April 13, 2010, 08:52:53 AM: For guys who got what it takes and can do the research the unlimited tags might not be a bad option, at least you'll be hunting sheep, just don't get eaten by a grizz while you are out there.
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Post by: Romulus on April 13, 2010, 08:54:59 AM: Putting in for sheep only. Have done it since they started points. Have not decided on the unit yet. Wish montana had set aside tags for non res so we would know what our real chances are.
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Post by: Roger on April 15, 2010, 12:51:40 PM: I'll be putting in next week loaning them the $$ to add to the ever building points.
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Post by: Dansk on April 15, 2010, 07:51:46 PM: Quote from: Romulus on April 13, 2010, 08:54:59 AM
Putting in for sheep only. Have done it since they started points. Have not decided on the unit yet. Wish montana had set aside tags for non res so we would know what our real chances are.

Real Chances (for 680) based on points:

Non Resident Data
Pts   Apps   Successful   Odds
**   26   0   0.02%
0   383   0   0.02%
1   323   0   0.03%
2   239   0   0.05%
3   208   0   0.07%
4   161   0   0.09%
5   170   1   0.1%
6   147   0   0.12%
7   252   0   0.14%
8   441   1   0.16%
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 15, 2010, 07:59:11 PM: There is alittle more to it than that the tags are allocated by region and there is a maximum number per region..
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Post by: Dansk on April 15, 2010, 08:02:59 PM: Quote from: WDFW-SUX on April 15, 2010, 07:59:11 PM
There is alittle more to it than that the tags are allocated by region and there is a maximum number per region..

...and isn't it 'up to' 10% of the total or something like that?... which means its possible that 0 tags go to NR's. There's just a max allocation.
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 27, 2010, 07:45:10 PM: Just dropped 2200 bucks...Figured I go for the whole enchilada and apply for bison too. If I draw Goat im going to need to start running yesterday :chuckle:
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Post by: Ridgerunner on April 28, 2010, 07:38:17 AM: Those draw odds look about like WA's for sheep. :chuckle: :bash:
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 28, 2010, 09:47:54 AM: Washington's worse even for max holders.

Anyone feeling lucky? I am. :)
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Post by: Dansk on April 28, 2010, 01:42:56 PM: Quote from: Ridgerunner on April 28, 2010, 07:38:17 AM
Those draw odds look about like WA's for sheep. :chuckle: :bash:

Yes- 680 is tuff- but nothing like wa, and you will harvest a trophy in that unit.

Simple odds for other units in MT are like 1 in 50 to 1 in 100. Chances are that I will draw in MT before I draw in WA.
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Post by: Romulus on April 28, 2010, 02:11:21 PM: Chances are none of us will ever draw sheep in either state. But if you don't try then you cant donate thousands in non refundable money if you are putting in for multiple states. I keep thinking one of these years.... But so far this year a blank in all the draws thus far. Good luck to all!
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Post by: boneaddict on April 28, 2010, 02:24:12 PM: I'm in.....just a matter of you guys hearing YAHOOOOOOO from a guy on the eastside.
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 28, 2010, 07:53:33 PM: Quote from: Romulus on April 28, 2010, 02:11:21 PM
Chances are none of us will ever draw sheep in either state. But if you don't try then you cant donate thousands in non refundable money if you are putting in for multiple states. I keep thinking one of these years.... But so far this year a blank in all the draws thus far. Good luck to all!

I agree that most of us will never draw a sheep tag but I still apply just livin on a dream... :P

I think I can draw Goat in MT.. might take 10-15 years but Ill do it.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 28, 2010, 08:16:17 PM: I am in and going to draw that SOB this year!!
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Post by: boneaddict on April 28, 2010, 08:38:03 PM: I want goat more than sheep at this point.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 28, 2010, 08:48:48 PM: Heck I would settle for either at this point.
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 29, 2010, 06:28:57 AM: GOAT>Sheep
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Post by: shanevg on April 29, 2010, 07:40:33 AM: GOAT >>>>>>>>>>> sheep
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Post by: Roger on April 29, 2010, 07:46:58 PM: Finally sent my loan to them this afternoon. Wonder how much interest they make on all of our money? Maybe someday I'll draw one of those special ones, I finally did get the moose in Wa. a couple a years ago.
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Post by: bowhunterforever on April 30, 2010, 12:06:38 AM: Quote from: Roger on April 29, 2010, 07:46:58 PM
Finally sent my loan to them this afternoon. Wonder how much interest they make on all of our money? Maybe someday I'll draw one of those special ones, I finally did get the moose in Wa. a couple a years ago.
Any pics of your wa moose?
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Post by: boneaddict on April 30, 2010, 06:12:23 AM: I know how much interest the bank makes, and how much they make on convienence fees. The WDFW isn't the only department raping us.
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Post by: pat2bear on April 30, 2010, 11:54:31 AM: I'm in. Goat and sheep. Got to start building those points. ;)
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Post by: Bigshooter on April 30, 2010, 10:35:06 PM: Ended up putting in for 124 this year and not 680 maybe it will change my luck. :dunno:
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Post by: Roger on May 03, 2010, 01:04:11 PM: Any pics of your wa moose?

Late November 2008 thread. I'm not sure hope to get the links in here.
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Post by: boneaddict on May 03, 2010, 01:08:52 PM: Now we wait!
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Post by: Ridgerunner on May 03, 2010, 02:41:40 PM: don't hold your breath.
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 10, 2010, 08:29:25 AM: Anyone else apply for 330 Goat??