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Title: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 02:32:55 PM: I have hunted Montana with a outfitter and got a huge goat. but am thinking on doing a public ground hunt and putting in for the tag this year. I am sure there are some good units with allot of public ground with good goat numbers on it. If anyone that hunts there has some ideas on what units are good and units that they have hunted before and would be willing to share the info with me that would be great. i am not 100% sure i am going to do it but putting some thought into it. thanks
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 06:21:41 PM: :dunno: alot of looker but no advice :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Ray on April 06, 2010, 06:28:00 PM: If I was going to put in I would focus on two general areas where I have seen decent numbers.

Between Lewistown and Malta.

Between Havre and Malta (north of the highway).

Not sure on amount of public land or best place. I know ranchers would likely permit access if you poked around. Just telling you where I would personally consider...
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 06:47:59 PM: thanks ray :tup:
anyone else got some :twocents: for me
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Post by: buckhorn2 on April 06, 2010, 07:06:17 PM: Lots of antelope in the 700 district with lots of block management.
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Post by: bobcat on April 06, 2010, 07:29:06 PM: 700 is where I hunted about 9 years ago and did well. We were between Jordan and Miles City on Block Management ground. There's not a lot of public land around there but if I go back I think I will hunt the little bit of public land there is. The Block Management we got access to was just too small, although three of us did kill three bucks in three days. But it would have been more enjoyable to have more area to hunt.
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Post by: Elkstuffer on April 06, 2010, 09:28:49 PM: Are you hunting rifle or archery?
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 09:33:05 PM: I think rifle thats how i got my last one and on public ground i feel better with a rifle than a bow now private ground i would love to shoot one with my bow. but it has been awhile since i shot anything with a modern gun. so i think that is the way i will go thanks for the info guys keep it comin. :tup: :camp:
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Dansk on April 06, 2010, 09:37:59 PM: Quote from: Ray on April 06, 2010, 06:28:00 PM
If I was going to put in I would focus on two general areas where I have seen decent numbers.

Between Lewistown and Malta.

Between Havre and Malta (north of the highway).

Not sure on amount of public land or best place. I know ranchers would likely permit access if you poked around. Just telling you where I would personally consider...

x2 on Havre/Malta units north of the highway - 600's. It's almost all private, but there are thousands of acres of BMA units up there with check-yourself-in rules. Tougher draw odds - like 50/50 maybe, but harvest rates are extremely high. Heard good things of 700s too. I would stay away from the 100% draw odds areas- check the stats - they have low success rates.

If I were you, I'd go Wyoming - same time to drive to northern part of WYO as MT 600 and 700 units (more or less), and WY is like almost 100% success rates in almost all units and easier draws than MT. WAY better speed goat numbers and better access in Wyoming - best state in the west for Antelope.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 09:41:57 PM: i think wy already had its goat deadline to put in i think :dunno: i looked into that as well a bit and would be open for that as well. also if anyone on here is going to mt or wy and would not maybe mind one more on a group app i would like to learn from people that know the areas and how to hunt them. i have hunted them in the past but to go alone is not as much fun either.

thanks dansk
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Elkstuffer on April 06, 2010, 09:43:35 PM: Don't overlook the Charles M. Russell Wildlife are. More public land than you could hunt in a lifetime and plenty of goats.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: benhuntin on April 06, 2010, 09:46:11 PM: we are going to put in for the area around Havre and have 6500 acres of private land that is loaded with antelope. Never hunted them but have a good connection so we are going to give it a shot. You are welcome to go if you draw.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Dansk on April 06, 2010, 09:49:40 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 09:41:57 PM
i think wy already had its goat deadline to put in i think :dunno: i looked into that as well a bit and would be open for that as well. also if anyone on here is going to mt or wy and would not maybe mind one more on a group app i would like to learn from people that know the areas and how to hunt them. i have hunted them in the past but to go alone is not as much fun either.

thanks dansk

Oops.. yup- forgot. March 15th I think. I'm in for points only- thats not til later.

You should check out leftover tags after they post results on June 30th here: http://gf.state.wy.us/wildlife/hunting/license/leftover/index.asp (http://gf.state.wy.us/wildlife/hunting/license/leftover/index.asp) ...still may have a chance yet!
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 09:50:49 PM: benhuntin that is very great offer i will shoot you a pm.

thanks elkstuffer i have heard that is a great area.
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Post by: benhuntin on April 06, 2010, 10:11:39 PM: Carpsniperg2 sent message back let me know.. :) :)
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Galpster on April 06, 2010, 10:30:53 PM: There is alot of goats by Whitehall. Tons of public land to hunt. Take a look on the map. I grew up in that area.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 10:56:58 PM: thanks galpster
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Post by: 270Shooter on April 08, 2010, 04:11:12 PM: Stay outta 404 ;)
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: gramps on April 08, 2010, 07:56:32 PM: I was drawn for the 600 unit a couple yrs ago. I grew up there and wanted to hunt the home place and it took 4 yrs to get drawn. I had access to some private ground, but there is plenty of block management ground available...and plent of goats too. Not sure which unit I am gonna apply for this yr...maybe somewhere else
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 08, 2010, 08:04:37 PM: thanks gramps

and 270 shooter i don't know if that is helpful or not :chuckle:
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: 270Shooter on April 08, 2010, 08:05:40 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on April 08, 2010, 08:04:37 PM
thanks gramps

and 270 shooter i don't know if that is helpful or not :chuckle:
Oh I have access to a farm in that unit, I have seen some big goats, but not very many of them.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 08, 2010, 08:13:01 PM: thanks thats better :chuckle:
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on April 12, 2010, 02:13:49 PM: My sister, my brother in law and I are putting in again this year (we didn't draw last year). They have a buddy that lives in region 4 that says he can show us some places, but the draw odds are better puttin' in for 700, so we have a little bit of a dilemma. Not sure what we're going to put in for yet... :dunno:
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Dansk on April 15, 2010, 08:00:51 PM: Quote from: Pathfinder101 on April 12, 2010, 02:13:49 PM
My sister, my brother in law and I are putting in again this year (we didn't draw last year). They have a buddy that lives in region 4 that says he can show us some places, but the draw odds are better puttin' in for 700, so we have a little bit of a dilemma. Not sure what we're going to put in for yet... :dunno:

Check the success rates.. 400's can be hit and miss. 600s and 700s are high success. That's a long haul and lot's of dough for an 'iffy' unit in my opinion.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Craig on April 15, 2010, 08:28:55 PM: They sure dropped the tag numbers in some of the 400 units. I hunted unit 481 in 2008 and there was 1200 tags last year there was 400 tags. The antelope numbers are down but they are still out there.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 15, 2010, 08:43:26 PM: good info guys, i got lined up with a member on here who has invited me to go with them if we can draw so i am going to put in with them.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: 270Shooter on April 15, 2010, 08:52:19 PM: Good luck, I would really like to draw this year.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: WonkyWapiti on April 15, 2010, 08:54:47 PM: I was north of Cutbank last weekend and saw a little herd of 10. I can't wait for hunting season!
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on April 16, 2010, 01:08:45 PM: Quote from: Dansk on April 15, 2010, 08:00:51 PM
Quote from: Pathfinder101 on April 12, 2010, 02:13:49 PM
My sister, my brother in law and I are putting in again this year (we didn't draw last year). They have a buddy that lives in region 4 that says he can show us some places, but the draw odds are better puttin' in for 700, so we have a little bit of a dilemma. Not sure what we're going to put in for yet... :dunno:

Check the success rates.. 400's can be hit and miss. 600s and 700s are high success. That's a long haul and lot's of dough for an 'iffy' unit in my opinion.

Good point. My sister is going to talk to the guy she knows again. If he doesn't have a "sure thing" lined up, we'll probably do the 700s. I think it may have been the 2008/2009 winterkill. Lots of deer hunters in the 400s last fall were not happy campers...
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Dansk on April 17, 2010, 08:48:13 AM: Quote from: Pathfinder101 on April 16, 2010, 01:08:45 PM
Quote from: Dansk on April 15, 2010, 08:00:51 PM
Quote from: Pathfinder101 on April 12, 2010, 02:13:49 PM
My sister, my brother in law and I are putting in again this year (we didn't draw last year). They have a buddy that lives in region 4 that says he can show us some places, but the draw odds are better puttin' in for 700, so we have a little bit of a dilemma. Not sure what we're going to put in for yet... :dunno:

Check the success rates.. 400's can be hit and miss. 600s and 700s are high success. That's a long haul and lot's of dough for an 'iffy' unit in my opinion.

Good point. My sister is going to talk to the guy she knows again. If he doesn't have a "sure thing" lined up, we'll probably do the 700s. I think it may have been the 2008/2009 winterkill. Lots of deer hunters in the 400s last fall were not happy campers...

Path- noticed you drew deer combo too - would you go over twice or make a combo hunt earlier in november? ...been wondering what I would do If I drew both deer and 'lopes in MT...
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Roger on April 17, 2010, 09:42:26 PM: Path- noticed you drew deer combo too - would you go over twice or make a combo hunt earlier in november? ...been wondering what I would do If I drew both deer and 'lopes in MT...

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Go to Mt. or Wy. for the lope, drive to Colorado for Deer and then back to Mt. for deer.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on April 18, 2010, 10:48:00 AM: Quote from: Roger on April 17, 2010, 09:42:26 PM

Path- noticed you drew deer combo too - would you go over twice or make a combo hunt earlier in november? ...been wondering what I would do If I drew both deer and 'lopes in MT...

Go to Mt. or Wy. for the lope, drive to Colorado for Deer and then back to Mt. for deer.

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Yeah, I am trying to figure out that one right now Roger. Would be a lot easier if I didn't care about staying married, or getting court-martialed for AWOL... :chuckle:
I think I may have found a place in western MT to hunt mulies, that may uncomplicate things a little... Not sure yet...
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Roger on April 18, 2010, 08:58:36 PM: Yeah, I am trying to figure out that one right now Roger. Would be a lot easier if I didn't care about staying married, or getting court-martialed for AWOL... :chuckle:
I think I may have found a place in western MT to hunt mulies, that may uncomplicate things a little... Not sure yet...
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I generally take 4 or 5 weeks for my out a state/multi state hunting each fall. Get plenty of time off from work and the wife goes with about every other year. She's not a hunter and gets bored if we stay a couple of weeks in one place. We have a special relationship that when I go without her it's OK. Got to love that.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: buckmaster_wa on May 05, 2010, 04:13:04 AM: I drew the deer tag and now im gonna apply for the 700 Lope tag. I am planning on going over from Nov 6th-14th. Will the Lope hunting be any good this late in the season?
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Roger on May 05, 2010, 01:48:41 PM: Might be kind of tough finding lopes with horns still on their heads at the end of the season. Without looking I think the lope ends the 8th., not for sure.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 05, 2010, 05:10:46 PM: Quote from: Roger on May 05, 2010, 01:48:41 PM
Might be kind of tough finding lopes with horns still on their heads at the end of the season. Without looking I think the lope ends the 8th., not for sure.

:yeah:

When I hunted the NE corner last year in mid-Nov they had all dropped where we were. I am in for Unit 480, apps went out today. Fingers crossed....
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 05, 2010, 09:16:20 PM: they extended it a week this year it closes on the 14th
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: bearpaw on May 05, 2010, 09:25:24 PM: Just double checked the MT phamphlet, season closes 14th this year.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 05, 2010, 09:42:56 PM: good to know guys we are going to be putting in for the draw in the next few days
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: 270Shooter on May 07, 2010, 03:23:21 PM: I have been thinking about 480 and 481 as well pathfinder. I dont know if I will do the 404 this year or not.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 07, 2010, 04:00:26 PM: we will be heading to the 600 unit if we can get drawn.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 08, 2010, 11:31:01 AM: Quote from: 270Shooter on May 07, 2010, 03:23:21 PM
I have been thinking about 480 and 481 as well pathfinder. I dont know if I will do the 404 this year or not.

Just got my copy of Eastman's, and they don't even mention those two units in the MRS Section for the draws. My sister's husband has a buddy that lives in 480 and said he will show us around and help us get our goats, that's why we applied there. If not for that we would have been in for the 700s. We'll see if we get drawn. Bonus point from last year + bonus point from this year... hopefully we get lucky...
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: bowtech721 on May 09, 2010, 04:01:55 PM: Im in for the 900 archery this year... i spent this weekend around the jordan area and in and around the charles russell refuge and saw an unbelievable amount of antelope. I couldnt be more excited
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 10, 2010, 12:31:37 PM: Quote from: bowtech721 on May 09, 2010, 04:01:55 PM
Im in for the 900 archery this year... i spent this weekend around the jordan area and in and around the charles russell refuge and saw an unbelievable amount of antelope. I couldnt be more excited

That's good to hear. I heard that the antelope #s in the 400 units were down last year. (deer too)
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: rb2506 on May 24, 2010, 05:29:28 PM: buckmaster, i hunted the last three days of the season last year in the 700s everyone said noway would i find horns, i did get my buck and saw a dozen others :twocents:
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: NRA4LIFE on May 25, 2010, 12:21:11 PM: I've seen tons of horns into November. Especially during mild falls. I always liked hunting them later as most of the hunting pressure was off them and they were back into their normal habits. Hunted the 700 region only though.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: 270Shooter on May 25, 2010, 08:25:31 PM: I sent my app in yesterday. Hoping to get lucky.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 25, 2010, 08:44:49 PM: we are in as well now just waiting :bash: :'( hope we draw
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Post by: WonkyWapiti on May 25, 2010, 08:53:15 PM: My buddy and I put in as a group, I can't wait to see the results. :)
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 25, 2010, 08:56:38 PM: we put in as a group as well, if i draw i will be as excited as a coon in a bag of cat food :chuckle:
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 26, 2010, 02:48:56 PM: Just talked to a buddy of mine that drove through the 700 units last week. He said there were goats EVERYWHERE. Looks like they had a good winter :tup:
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Roger on May 26, 2010, 08:14:59 PM: My son just moved from Memphis to Everett and drove 90 through Mt. and asked what were all those small funny colored deer in eastern Mt.
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Post by: HUNT on May 28, 2010, 11:14:52 AM: Just put in for Montana antelope for the first time. Buddy hunt in the 700 units. Lots of waiting now.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Kent Hunter on June 02, 2010, 04:38:52 AM: Got my app in around noon yesterday. Thank the Lord for the internet!!! Put in for the 600 unit. We only have two points so I'm not holding my breath. Sure will be glad when we finally draw though. We have access to over 15,000 acres. ;)
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 02, 2010, 05:58:19 AM: via $?
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Craig on June 02, 2010, 11:09:07 AM: Just want another point so I put in for unit 215. No non res drew a tag last year and hope I don't draw this year.
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: Elkstuffer on June 03, 2010, 09:18:02 PM: I put in for the 900 archery only tag. My odds of drawing are 99.7%. I feel good about those odds, ;)
Title: Re: Montana speed goat units?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on June 03, 2010, 09:19:02 PM: Quote from: Craig on June 02, 2010, 11:09:07 AM
Just want another point so I put in for unit 215. No non res drew a tag last year and hope I don't draw this year.

:chuckle: x2