Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: buman31 on April 14, 2010, 02:59:49 PM
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Does anybody know when we will recieve paperwork for our multi-season tags? I haven't gotten anything from the WDFW but I got selected for both deer and elk? I think I heard the 23rd was the day to buy but I haven't heard when we will get our instructions to purchase? Is it by mail, email?
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I think you will get a notice in the mail. I also heard the 23rd is the first day to purchase, so be ready to log on to the internet at 12:01 a.m.
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AND WATCH IT CRASH 2 MINUTES LATER WHEN 2000 PEOPLE LOG ON AT THE SAME TIME. THANKYOU WDFW
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they are just trying to get everyone to panic :chuckle: we should be getting a note in the mail with the details but i heard 12:01 on the 23rd from a fish and wildlife person today
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I read it is first come first served, meaning some people drawn are SOL if they run out?
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yes they over drew deer by 500 and like 250 elk so those people are sol but i don't think there is going to be 2,600 tags sold by 12:05am
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If you don't buy the permit before sold out, do you get your points back?
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I don't think anybody knows the answer to that yet.
Heck, the WDFW probably doesnt' even know. :bash:
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:yeah:
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If you don't buy the permit before sold out, do you get your points back?
The person I talked to told me No.
I got my paperwork on Thursday.
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That sounds about right. I sent them a note of gave them hell, why would you plan a draw that way? Dumber than dumb. You win an opportunity to lose your points for nothing due to inept planning. I don't get it. I hadn't planned on purchasing mine until later, guess they made my plans for me. There's going to be 600 more people that think the DFW bites a frankfurter. :dunno:, they keep winning friends.
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I will have to call the dept and make sure, but i thought you had to turn in your regular tags to get the multi tag. Thats how it has worked in the past, so my question is, how are we supposed to buy our tags on line at 12:01 if we have to turn in the other tag????
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I doubt it, but ... could this be a way to help prevent antis from getting tags? I have heard that antis will apply to get tags to take them away from hunters, but then if there is an extra hoop to jump through, maybe fewer of them actually buy the tag?
More likely, it is just a way to make sure that they maximize revenue by selling out all the tags.
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why do you all think this 1st come 1st served method is gonna change anything, there will still be multi season tags left over a month after they go on sale, dont panic there are still a lot of people that put in then say "whoa its $180, i aint buyin that" but those same people will apply again and draw again next year
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If the entire quota doesn't get purchased, then they should just leave it at that. But, they must have had some kind of idea from previous years how many extra they needed to draw, in order to sell all the permits. So I doubt if there will be any leftovers.
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why do you all think this 1st come 1st served method is gonna change anything, there will still be multi season tags left over a month after they go on sale, dont panic there are still a lot of people that put in then say "whoa its $180, i aint buyin that" but those same people will apply again and draw again next year
Warning conspiracy theory to follow!!!!
Ya know, I wonder if thats the case. Talking to everyone I know it seems as if they stacked the draw. Folks who have purchased in the past got drawn. Folks who havent bean drawn in the past still arent drawn. I know its way out there, but maybe they cherry picked folks who have shown they are willing to pay.
Conspiracy theory over. :)
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I could see leftover Deer tags easy enough. Its hard to justify a $180 deer tag. I suspect the elk tags will go quick.
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I don't think $180 is too much for the multi-season deer, for somebody who has the time to hunt all the seasons. Just think what it would cost if you wanted to spend more time hunting and had to go out of state to do so. Figure about $500 for a tag and license, plus hundreds of dollars in gas.
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The paperwork says the 180 does not include the License- it's just the deer tag, and that I still have to buy the license... but in the regs the big game license and tag are both part of the same package price ?!?! Does this mean I pay for the full combo license i would normally buy, PLUS an additional 180 on top of that?
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Yes, the way I see it, is the multi-season PERMIT is a permit, not a tag. You also have to buy a license/tag like you normally would. The $180 is additional which lets you hunt all the seasons.
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I think there will be major out cry by the 100 extra guys that drew the elk tag and can not get it, plus lose your points. It seems you should only draw the quota and simply add a deadline to buy it. If they don't sell out open it up to first come first serve until all tags are purchased. But of course you are dealing with wdfw who try to complicate everything as much as possible, and this would be a to cost effective and easy method to use.
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Yes, the way I see it, is the multi-season PERMIT is a permit, not a tag. You also have to buy a license/tag like you normally would. The $180 is additional which lets you hunt all the seasons.
that is correct. you have to buy the normal tag so it really is like a 225.00 deer tag :bash: i think i will buy the deer i drew but next year i will just be putting in for elk which is what i really want. its hard for me to spend 180 to hunt all three seasons when i am 99% sure i will shoot my buck in the late muzzle like i always hunt and do. but i would love to hunt archery, i could care less about modern for deer becaue i am so busy helping my family get there deer and taking care of them with little time for myself but i would have it no other way.
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I got drawn for a MS deer tag, got all pumped up!!! yayyy .... then I thought about it further? I'm paying $180 to rifle hunt in GMU 336 & 340 witch has been in decline for the last 15 years :( I will purchase my archery tag for deer then during MF season I will be camp cook/bear hunter.... good luck to those that drew and relay want the tag, WDFW money grubbers anyway ??? >:(
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Yeah I don't know why anybody would want to hunt deer in those two units. Can't you find someplace that has more deer?
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I think there will be major out cry by the 100 extra guys that drew the elk tag and can not get it, plus lose your points. It seems you should only draw the quota and simply add a deadline to buy it. If they don't sell out open it up to first come first serve until all tags are purchased. But of course you are dealing with wdfw who try to complicate everything as much as possible, and this would be a to cost effective and easy method to use.
I like the idea of F&W over drawing just so they don't have to have multiple redraws right up until the opener, but I also agree with you one the "first come first serve" concept on the left over permits. This may be something we need to push with F&W, or at least let the other guys keep their points.
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bobcat 'back in the day' we pulled allot deer off of those hills , nothing big, but the kids growing up got their 1st deer, now 15 years later -bears,cats,yotes,hunters and few deer ?? good elk hunting for now :)
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Personally i like the three draws-It gives me something to look forward to if I dont get drawn the first go round- I know you guys like it as well as we all sit here giddy like school kids and check our draw status every ten minutes-
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PROBABLY OFF TOPIC BUT IF YOU DON;T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE PUTTING IN FOR DONT DO IT. :twocents:
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Yes, the way I see it, is the multi-season PERMIT is a permit, not a tag. You also have to buy a license/tag like you normally would. The $180 is additional which lets you hunt all the seasons.
Hmmm... $180 to hunt two additional weapon seasons in Washington... I'm gonna lower the pool to 2599 and put my dough into 'lopes in MT and buying Elk/Deer/Lope points in WY. Someone else can have my tag.. er.. ummm i mean permit..
$140 was expensive enough for what you get out of it... paying over two bills to hunt three seasons in wa is over the top IMO. Afford it? yep... Worth it (to me)? Nope.
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Gentlemen, to clear up confusion:
I recieved my multi season tags in the mail yesterday. It is a tag. I am supposed to return my modern rifle deer and elk tags so I don't have two :P. I know because it says "tag" and I am supposed to use this to hunt during various seasons. Accompanied with this is a new liscense that says I am a multi season tag holder.
Here is what sucks. . . I bought a deer and elk tag prior to doing the multi season application. Yep, you guessed it, that money is down the drain. Its not much but it is still money, kind of annoying ya know what I mean?
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Here is what sucks. . . I bought a deer and elk tag prior to doing the multi season application. Yep, you guessed it, that money is down the drain. Its not much but it is still money, kind of annoying ya know what I mean?
Id take those MF'ers to small claims court...thats theft.
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Gentlemen, to clear up confusion:
I recieved my multi season tags in the mail yesterday. It is a tag. I am supposed to return my modern rifle deer and elk tags so I don't have two :P. I know because it says "tag" and I am supposed to use this to hunt during various seasons. Accompanied with this is a new liscense that says I am a multi season tag holder.
Here is what sucks. . . I bought a deer and elk tag prior to doing the multi season application. Yep, you guessed it, that money is down the drain. Its not much but it is still money, kind of annoying ya know what I mean?
What do you mean it is down the drain? You have to pay for those tags if you want to hunt deer and elk in this state, whether you draw multi-season or not.
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ya, you have to buy them anyway
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Yeah, they are multi-season permits and you need your transport tags to put on your animals when you kill them.
Multi season permits are too expensive for me........especially since I don't have a bow yet. But they may be worthwhile for some that have the time to hunt all 3 seasons and already have bow, rifle, and muzzleloader weapons laying around. :twocents:
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It means if you buy your regular archery/muzzy/rifle tag before you apply for the multi tag and you are drawn and decide to purchase the multi you will not get your money back for the regular archery/muzzy/rifle tag you purchased prior. Lesson learned:
1. Buy your liscense
2. Apply for Multi Season
3. Get Multi Season and Buy It - or not get drawn and by your respective normal tag you always throwing money away on the normal tags.
Does that make sense. They need to put something in the regs to that effect to avoid confusion! :bash:
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I wonder how many people have to try to explain it to you before you get it? You still have to buy the deer and elk tags even if you draw multi-season permits.
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:bash: :bash:
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This is directly off the WDFW website for multiseason questions and answers.
Q. How much does the permit cost?
A. The permit is $180.00 for residents and $1,800.00 for non-residents, plus the cost of the original deer or elk license.
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It means if you buy your regular archery/muzzy/rifle tag before you apply for the multi tag and you are drawn and decide to purchase the multi you will not get your money back for the regular archery/muzzy/rifle tag you purchased prior. Lesson learned:
1. Buy your liscense
2. Apply for Multi Season
3. Get Multi Season and Buy It - or not get drawn and by your respective normal tag you always throwing money away on the normal tags.
Does that make sense. They need to put something in the regs to that effect to avoid confusion! :bash:
The lesson you need to learn from this is that if you don't want to spend an extra $180 plus the cost of the deer and elk license, then don't apply for the multi-season PERMIT. Everybody pays the same. If you hadn't already paid for the deer/elk license, you would have been charged for it when you paid the $180 for the multi-season PERMIT.
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looks just like mine, those are good for all seasons, they want you to send back the rifle tags you bougth
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ok now i'm confused, where did that post go am i talking to myself?
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like i said in another post its not a 180 dollar tag it is like a 230.00 tag with the reg license+tag+dealer fees :bash: i hope it was worth it with all the cats in our area the deer numbers are about 50% of what they are normaly in a regular year. :bash: dam preditors and fish and wildlife the 2 of them will have all our game gone >:(
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buman must have taking his post off, i swear it was there, really
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I saw it too. It's probably not a good idea to post pics of tags with WILD ID and full name on the internet. So, I'm glad it is gone. Maybe he can edit out the personal info and post it back up. :dunno:
Anyway, from what I saw.......those are new transport tags that they issued to replace your old ones with.
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thanks, thought maybe i was seeing things
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Well, looks like they are sold out already. When I bought my license, no option to purchase comes up any more online.
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for elk?
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I don't know about elk, deer does not come up for me and that's what I was selected for.
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I'm a little suprised deer is already sold out :dunno: , That's alright I got my elk multi tag in the mail yesterday :IBCOOL: , didn't pull the deer and happy I didn't cause I already have enough hunting planned for this year. Getting pretty excited about this elk season, Been shooting my bow a lot and need to pull out my black diamond 50 cal. and my tikka 7mm mag and go and hit some paper. Good luck to all who pulled a tag :tup:
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*censored* people frustrate me. I read on this thread you had to buy your license first which is incorrect. YOU DO NOT BUY A LICENSE FIRST! You only buy the multi season license.
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i don't think that is true, i am 99% sure you have to buy your deer license to be able to buy the tag. i will put a call into them and see.
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dmanmastertracker i just got off the phone with them you have to buy the license fo the 43.00 or what ever it is. no way around it your tag is free with the license for a reg general season tag. then if you draw a special multi tag you have to buy that tag.
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The fee is bundled with the tag online. If you check general deer license, you will not be able to purchase the multi season. I just paid by phone and this is what I was told.
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no, because i asked and they said in these words. NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE TO BUY THE LICENSE TO IN ORDER TO BUY THE TAG. you are not buying a multi season license but a TAG you need the license to BUY the tag.
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100% different from what I was told, that's nuts. What the hell are they doing??? :bash: :dunno: :yike:
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I guess I don't really care as long as I get the stupid thing, I am starting to wonder what my receipt looks like, I haven't checked yet. :yike:
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i don't know what they are doing and i don't think they know what they are doing :chuckle:
also i wish we just had to have the tags to hunt because it would be free :chuckle:
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It is a Multi-season PERMIT, not a tag. It is a PERMIT that allows you to use your TAG in multiple seasons such as archery, muzzleloader, and modern. You cannot tag an animal with a PERMIT; you use a TAG. You need a multi-season PERMIT to use the TAG in all seasons.
Please read this: http://wdfw.wa.gov/faq/multi-season_hunting.htm (http://wdfw.wa.gov/faq/multi-season_hunting.htm)
"Multiple-Season Hunting Permits & Tags"
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Thanks for the info Bob!!
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It is a Multi-season PERMIT, not a tag. It is a PERMIT that allows you to use your TAG in multiple seasons such as archery, muzzleloader, and modern. You cannot tag an animal with a PERMIT; you use a TAG. You need a multi-season PERMIT to use the TAG in all seasons.
Please read this: http://wdfw.wa.gov/faq/multi-season_hunting.htm (http://wdfw.wa.gov/faq/multi-season_hunting.htm)
"Multiple-Season Hunting Permits & Tags"
"You cannot tag an animal with a PERMIT" that is true but there is not a seperate permit in this case you do not get a green and white permit in the case of muti season tag. the tag is the permit that says you get to hunt in all 3 seasons, the tag is the only thing you get and severs as a permit in the muti tag draw, not a seperate one that you have to have on you like a bull permit etc.
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you only get a new tag in the mail to use to hunt with during the seasons, no seperate permit.
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Thanks for the clarification. I've not seen one and you have.
So what you are saying is that the permit and tag are one? When you harvest an animal, you attach it?
So then if you had previously purchased a TAG, you would have two. That appears to be the problem, since you can only tag one animal.
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yes that is correct they are one in the same with the multi season tags you only have the tag that works as a permit and a tag all in one and the tag says on it muti season deer 2010 so there is no need for them to give out permits.
as far as the having to tags you are required to send the reg tag that you might have got before you bought back to them or call them and have them void it when you buy the multi tag.
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that is also why some like me buy the license but do not designate a tag untill after the draw so i don;t already have a tag that won't be any good and have to send it in or call and void it out.
i think i got you guys lined out now :chuckle: :IBCOOL:
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Regardless, you still need to purchase a hunting license, and that can be done either before or after you are drawn for the multi-season permit.
Is that correct?
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yes, you have to buy the license regardless. in normal general season tags they are free with you license. then if you draw the multi season tag then you have to pay for that tag to be able to use it during all 3 seasons
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before or after no difference you just still have to buy it to get a tag
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Thank you carpsniperg2, some guys on here thought I was crazy. NO BLAME TO ANYBODY THOUGH! The WDFW is to blame for the confusion. Here is what they send to multi-season holders, they ask to send the original mod/archery tags I had for deer and elk back!
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no prob, i like to help out with the things that i know. and try to save others the confusion.
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It wouldn't be confusing if you read the FAQ's the WDFW has on their website regarding multi-season permits. I'm not sure why you guys are making this out to be so complicated. It isn't.
So they ask you to send back the tag you have which is now invalid. So what?
Is it that hard to put it in an enelope and drop it in a mailbox ???
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I got a call today from the wdf saying they are just sending the letters out to the multiseason license holders with an envelope addresed to the state that you are to put your expired license. They said they would be sent out today or tomorrow.