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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Zuus on April 17, 2010, 02:49:49 PM

Title: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: Zuus on April 17, 2010, 02:49:49 PM: Stopped at my local FFL today and he informed me that any out of state purchases of firearms are now (actually since January) subject to state sales tax. This amount taxed will include the shipping cost and insurance. FFL service fee not included. The FFL is required to collect this tax.
If you don't have a receipt for the firearm, or if it received as a gift, the gun FFL will have to charge you fair market value.
http://dor.wa.gov/content/getaformorpublication/publicationbysubject/taxtopics/firearmtransfers.aspx (http://dor.wa.gov/content/getaformorpublication/publicationbysubject/taxtopics/firearmtransfers.aspx)
I couldn't get his link to work. I had to type in the http://dor.wa.gov (http://dor.wa.gov) and then search for "interstate transfer of firearms"

Think this is crap? >:( Me too. Call your local government official and complain.
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 17, 2010, 03:35:42 PM: http://dor.wa.gov/content/getaformorpublication/publicationbysubject/taxtopics/firearmtransfers.aspx (http://dor.wa.gov/content/getaformorpublication/publicationbysubject/taxtopics/firearmtransfers.aspx)

So....who's got an ffl in Portland? :chuckle: (shooters emporium) :IBCOOL:

all that will do is kill the ffl business in washington.
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: woodswalker on April 17, 2010, 04:22:18 PM: thieving bastid..... >:( :bash: :yike:
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: rasbo on April 17, 2010, 04:34:48 PM: hmm might have to take up gun running....wonder what the average per gun cost will be...tax and shipping and ffl
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: AWS on April 17, 2010, 04:53:39 PM: About 9% more than your paying now depending on the county or city that you make the purchase in. It's happenning to all mail order sales that go through a busines located in WA. In a few years all mail order sales will be charged sales tax when they can figure out a way to monitor sales from companies that don't have stores in WA. Other states are doing the same thing.

AWS
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: need2huntmor on April 17, 2010, 05:13:25 PM: Just purchased a Kimber Pro CDP online from out of state. The only thing that I paid sales tax on was the fee I paid to the in state ffl dealer to do the transfer. I paid no tax on the firearm, or the shipping cost. Just picked up the Kimber yesterday.
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: Zuus on April 18, 2010, 06:33:45 AM: Rumor has it. many of the FFL's don't even know about this law. Yet they will be responsible to pay the back taxes if audited. If you like your FFL, you may want to let him/her know
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: yorketransport on April 18, 2010, 08:57:12 AM: I know of a few shops that won't do transfers anymore because of this.

Andrew
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: Bofire on April 18, 2010, 09:41:58 AM: :)it is going to happen with lots of stuff. The govt. wants to tax internet sales. SST act was passed a few years ago but has been hard to implement.
Carl
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: shaneman153D on April 18, 2010, 11:13:57 AM: The next step is to make it illegal to buy guns out of state. Don't think it will happen? They just passed it with flying colors on cigarettes.

Smokers are an easy target to try out ridiculous laws, no one gives a sh!t if you screw them. But eventually, they will come around and take your rights.

If you live in Eastern WA, Diamondback shooters in Lewiston, ID does xfers for $15. That's where I go.

Shane

Mods, if I'm not allowed to name drop, please delete.
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 18, 2010, 12:18:35 PM: Its cheaper for me to fly to lewiston than pay sales tax in wa.... :yike:
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: bearpaw on April 18, 2010, 01:36:06 PM: >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: high country on April 18, 2010, 05:42:05 PM: yup, my ffl has transfered.....LOTS of guns for me, but when I tried to bring in my finnlught he told me he would have to charge actual sales tax. then handed me the contact info for a bunch of shops in Idaho.....8 miles from my house. done deal.
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 18, 2010, 05:45:29 PM: Has anyone had any issues transferring in other states with an out of state drivers licence? I know you cant buy a pistol in washington unless you have a washington drivers licence.
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: shaneman153D on April 18, 2010, 09:57:31 PM: Long guns are okay in ID, no pistols. Pretty sure that's the same in OR.
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: h20hunter on April 19, 2010, 08:53:59 AM: Well, this is one more thing the thieving state is doing. Read on the states site and you will see this:

"If the firearm is obtained by gift, the instate dealer is obligated to collect use tax on the fair market value of the firearm, unless the receiving person can document that the prior owner had paid retail sales or use tax on the firearm."

So somebody can buy you a gift, pay their state tax, transfer it to you, and you now get to be taxed again for "use". B.S.

Not that I would ever ever suggest this but two boxes shipped via UPS cost a whole heck of a lot less.
Title: Re: New gun purchase taxes
Post by: WDFW-SUX on April 19, 2010, 09:02:20 AM: Yeah no joke...Ive shipped plenty of guns UPS without the transfer paperwork. Ill fly and pick up guns before I pay washington its 9%.