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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: Ridgerunner on February 15, 2008, 10:34:16 AM

Title: Bear v. 270
Post by: Ridgerunner on February 15, 2008, 10:34:16 AM: Having not had much experience with bears I was wondering what everyone thought of a 270 shooting barnes triple shock bullets 130 grain would be adequate on a black bear? Or do I need to change my load specificially for bears? Thoughts, opinions,
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: Outfitter on February 15, 2008, 11:05:41 AM: We take around 20 bears a year and the hunters use various calibers.What I am concerned with when I'm tracking a bear is placement not so much the caliber.I 've had bears shot with 375s come up out of the brush at me because they were shot a little far back and seen bears shot with a 243 drop in his tracks. A 270 is one of the most common calibers we get through here and is definitely adiquit for black bear up to 250-300yrds.Place your shot as if you are bowhunting and you won't have any problems with a 270. Good luck on your hunt !
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: bobcat on February 15, 2008, 11:54:27 AM: I think the 270 with the Barnes 130 TSX is a PERFECT combination for bears.
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: GoldTip on February 15, 2008, 12:30:29 PM: I would agree, black bears die quite well with a well placed shot. All bears I have killed with a bow (5) have gone probably only 50% of the distance of the deer/elk I've shot with archery, all heart/lung shots. Shot placement is key with black bears. Shoot well and virtually any cartridge will do well on bears at a reasonable distance.
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: Head-shot on February 15, 2008, 01:34:55 PM: Quote from: GoldTip on February 15, 2008, 12:30:29 PM
Shoot well and virtually any cartridge will do well on bears at a reasonable distance.

I agree, good shot placement and knowing YOUR own abilities with your weapon, will make you more productive than just packing a cannon into the stick. IMO ;)
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: saylean on February 15, 2008, 03:33:41 PM: Another one for shot placement. I have killed 1 bear with a .270, dropped in its tracks. Killed one bear with a .300...hit it in the heart and it bolted about 30 ft or so, died....Placement in my opinion is key for any animal. Good luck. ;)
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: KillBilly on February 15, 2008, 04:29:04 PM: BTKR has killed all of his bears with a .270 and I can't imagine him wanting to use another calibre.
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: billythekidrock on February 15, 2008, 05:06:44 PM: Another for shot placement. I have seen alot of guys lose or miss bears with big bores because they don't know their firearm or anatomy or they just get scared. I would suggest moving up to a 150 grns though.

Here are some anatomy photos with some spots for shot placement. I know that this could open a can of worms, but blast away. The green dots would the best shot though I have taken a few bears with the red dot shot.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hunt101.com%2Fdata%2F500%2Fmedium%2Fbearanatomy.jpg&hash=a176477414049f7b0c22b86de102ad3aacfd9ee2)

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hunt101.com%2Fdata%2F500%2Fmedium%2Fbearanatomybones.jpg&hash=40b953efc82885f963e7aa8c8cb21b155a393c6e)
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: KillBilly on February 15, 2008, 05:12:05 PM: That second pic is an ugly bear..... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 15, 2008, 05:15:01 PM: I prefer the red shot IMHO break them down and they never get far. I dont think it matters all that much on a blackie with a high power rifle and a good quality bullet Barnes, Nosler, swift A frame etc. Brown bear the shoulder shot is always preferred. Archery the green dot 100%
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: bobcat on February 15, 2008, 05:22:29 PM: Quote from: billythekidrock on February 15, 2008, 05:06:44 PM
I would suggest moving up to a 150 grns though.

With any bullet other than the Barnes TSX, I would agree. But that bullet is 100% copper and will retain at least 90% of its weight. A 130 Barnes is as good or better than most any other 150 grain bullet.
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: billythekidrock on February 15, 2008, 05:37:51 PM: Another anatomy pic.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hunt101.com%2Fdata%2F500%2Fmedium%2F1443webBearAnatomyCr.jpg&hash=fff7254262d612da96e97ee43e21e8250ba89de1)
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: KillBilly on February 15, 2008, 05:40:32 PM: Is there a bear porn site you are getting these undressed bear pics from ?????? ;)
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: actionshooter on February 15, 2008, 06:00:18 PM: That ones not gonna make a very good rug, its rubbed out a little to much :chuckle:
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: KillBilly on February 15, 2008, 06:03:00 PM: Michelle will fix it up.
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: billythekidrock on February 15, 2008, 06:28:36 PM: Quote from: actionshooter on February 15, 2008, 06:00:18 PM
That ones not gonna make a very good rug, its rubbed out a little to much :chuckle:

Full body mount with the "rubbed" side against the wall. No one will know the difference.
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: Ridgerunner on February 15, 2008, 06:30:45 PM: Great photos of the bears anatomy. Seems to me that the 130 grain would do the trick too. Glad to hear I'm not alone on that one.
Title: Re: Bear v. 270
Post by: PacificNWhunter on February 15, 2008, 07:08:49 PM: It should work, my buddy uses a really light bullet for bears and has never had a problem. I have a .300 and shoot 165's, they work great!