Post by: konrad on May 13, 2010, 06:04:03 PM
I submitted a question to the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife.
Here is the response:
Konrad,
This doesn’t sound too crazy, it’s a question we get more than you would think. Yes you
can hunt waterfowl with archery equipment, no tag required. You would need a small game license and duck stamp. Here is a link to our archery regulations as they pertain to hunting big game http://search.leg.wa.gov/pub/textsearch/ViewRoot.asp?Action=Html&Item=1&X=513133348&p=1 (http://search.leg.wa.gov/pub/textsearch/ViewRoot.asp?Action=Html&Item=1&X=513133348&p=1) please review before going afield. Since the archery restrictions are put together for big game only, we go under the assumption that you can use whatever broad-heads you want when hunting for small game.
Hope this helps,
Cody
Wildlife Program
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I think perhaps a turkey ground blind would work well for geese???
K
Post by: Button Nubbs on May 13, 2010, 07:20:29 PM
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on May 14, 2010, 08:52:13 AM
Post by: h2ofowlr on May 17, 2010, 09:24:25 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 18, 2010, 08:24:54 PM
Post by: bowtech721 on May 18, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 18, 2010, 10:42:33 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 18, 2010, 10:49:00 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 18, 2010, 11:01:13 PM
bobcat :bash:don't stir the pot on another thread.
Why not? :dunno: Just stating my opinion. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would think that way.
Post by: fishermanjoe on May 19, 2010, 12:16:32 AM
bobcat :bash: don't stir the pot on another thread. have you tried it? 99% chance no. i have and evey bird we have ever shot from pheasants-ducks we have got and not lost. :tup:
:yeah:
How many birds have you shot in a flock that only got a few pellets and flew off wounded?
Post by: BLUEBULLS on May 19, 2010, 05:35:20 AM
A 1-1/8 or bigger hole anywhere in a critter of that size and they usually dont go far.
It's a blast :IBCOOL:
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2010, 07:30:35 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 19, 2010, 07:38:49 AM
I don't care how much fun it may be, it's unethical in my book.just curious, is turkey hunting with archery tackle unethical also?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 19, 2010, 07:40:19 AM
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2010, 07:46:59 AM
I don't care how much fun it may be, it's unethical in my book.just curious, is turkey hunting with archery tackle unethical also?
Well no, turkeys are shot on the ground, where a guy can be pretty sure in making a killing shot. Shooting ducks or geese out of the air I just don't think anybody can be good enough to hit them in the right spot every time.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 19, 2010, 08:03:13 AM
I don't care how much fun it may be, it's unethical in my book.just curious, is turkey hunting with archery tackle unethical also?
Well no, turkeys are shot on the ground, where a guy can be pretty sure in making a killing shot. Shooting ducks or geese out of the air I just don't think anybody can be good enough to hit them in the right spot every time.
understadable, but i was/am under the impression that ducks and geese are shot on the ground when using archery tackle as well. i have never done it.
Post by: Button Nubbs on May 19, 2010, 08:15:31 AM
Post by: wabow on May 19, 2010, 09:07:13 AM
to the people who archery hunt geese and ducks, are they flying when you shoot or are they landed. a guy i know shoots them as soon as they land near the blind. is this the norm?
Search "jump shooting". We usually get them as they are comming off the water. Flu flu feathers with dry fly floatant make arrow recovery much easier. Shake them off and they are ready for another round.
Turn your draw weight way down for jump shooting it make it much easier.
Don
Post by: MasterMisser on May 19, 2010, 10:46:13 AM
I would have to agree with fishermanjoe... I have been waterfowl hunting for many years and i have hit 100's of birds to just have them glide a few hundred yards out and not be able to retrieve them. Bluebulls is 100% right! if a 1 1/8 inch diameter hole will kill an elk! then it would definitely take out any game bird! as far as hitting them in the "right spot" goes... It really isn't gonna matter where you hit the bird! He is gonna drop like a rock! As long as its not a wing shot and it gets hit in the body! I have friends who are avid archers and waterfowlers who practice shooting clays out of the air with Flu Flus all the time. It sounds hard but like with anything else practice and you will be able to achieve... Just my :twocents:
Post by: boneaddict on May 19, 2010, 10:50:55 AM
Its my opinion millions of ducks fly away with shot in them, NOT many fly away with an arrow through them.
Post by: Curly on May 19, 2010, 10:58:48 AM
Post by: MasterMisser on May 19, 2010, 11:06:57 AM
Post by: konrad on May 19, 2010, 04:32:25 PM
I don't care how much fun it may be, it's unethical in my book.just curious, is turkey hunting with archery tackle unethical also?
Apparently it's only ethical if they are flying!
To my mind, getting close enough to a walking goose is EVERY bit as tough as getting that close to Mr. Tom.
If I get the chance I will do it.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 19, 2010, 04:50:50 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2010, 05:31:26 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 19, 2010, 05:55:22 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on May 19, 2010, 06:20:06 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2010, 06:51:39 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on May 19, 2010, 07:01:43 PM
How many people shoot waterfowl with shotguns? How many shoot waterfowl with arrows?He has a point here.
I only see it ethical to shoot them with archery equipment when they land (besids you wont kill very many by trying to shoot them out of the air). Another thing to stir the pot here, I don't have any problem with shooting them on the ground with a shotgun, if they are gonna sit there, I'm gonna shoot them.
Post by: boneaddict on May 19, 2010, 07:03:02 PM
Post by: sisu on May 19, 2010, 07:50:05 PM
No not every state has the advantage of shooting turkey on the ground. I've been hunting on the Big Island with the Flips I know and they wait for the VOG to force the birds down from the mountain wing shooting the big bad turkey. Kinda funny to see the big *censored* go flump, flop, roll, and then see a Flip running his ass after the bird through the volcanic a a.I don't care how much fun it may be, it's unethical in my book.just curious, is turkey hunting with archery tackle unethical also?
Well no, turkeys are shot on the ground, where a guy can be pretty sure in making a killing shot. Shooting ducks or geese out of the air I just don't think anybody can be good enough to hit them in the right spot every time.
Post by: Ray on May 19, 2010, 08:47:23 PM
Post by: ribka on May 19, 2010, 08:55:04 PM
Have brought out my recurve on a few duck hunts. Have yet to connect. I have shot a few quail though with my recurve using a bird snare head.
The bird snare heads do not seem to have enough killing powere to bring down a bird larger than a quail. IMHO
I duct taped up pieces of foam and have the wifey throw them up for practice . After a week got pretty proficient hitting targets
Can tell you it is a lot of fun
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2010, 08:58:40 PM
One more quick question and I'm done with this.... is it considered acceptable to shoot running deer and elk with archery equipment?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 19, 2010, 09:02:16 PM
yes it depends on the shot range i shot my elk last year as she ran by me at 3 yards no prob just depends on the person and the situation.
you need to get out and hunt bobcat :chuckle: to much time in a cage makes bobcat to calm gets the glazed look like the tigers at the zoo :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on May 20, 2010, 06:01:36 AM
Post by: Ray on May 20, 2010, 06:25:58 AM
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To say, well it's ok to risk wounding birds with arrows because some people take unethical shots beyond the effective range of their shotgun, is just ludicrous. What's the saying... two wrongs don't make a right.
That's a ridiculous statement. Nobody has said that it is ok to wound birds with a bow and arrow. I think it has been pointed out that the bow and arrow is a valid and lethal weapon for hunting birds and that most who would seriously partake in such activity would be more likely to kill than wound. Contrary to your assertion. I don't know where you get this stuff. To me your statements on this subject are ignorant and irresponsible. No offense, but my understanding is that you are clearly anti archery. I have come to this conclusion because I have read your opinion on random subjects of discussion for several years now. I think that is the issue more than anything. You have presented anecdotal incidents or suggestive discussion and tried to represent it as the authoritative and absolute fact. If you're going to attack archery in this manner you should be prepared to get criticized if you have put together such a flawed argument.
Post by: Ray on May 20, 2010, 06:44:51 AM
http://www.magnusbroadheads.com/bullhead_intro.html (http://www.magnusbroadheads.com/bullhead_intro.html)
Goose Hunting with a Bow 12-27-08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb3vGw8WMs4&feature=player_embedded#)
Post by: bobcat on May 20, 2010, 07:08:03 AM
No offense, but my understanding is that you are clearly anti archery.
No offense taken. But I'm not "anti archery." How could I be? I hunted for two years with a bow, for deer and elk, and may go back to it again. We've all got our opinions, and mine is that it's crazy to try to hunt ducks with a bow. Pheasants I could see, especially if you're somewhere that has a lot of birds like South Dakota. Ducks and geese fine, but let them come in to the decoys and land, and than take the shot. If that's how this is done, then I misunderstood. I thought we were talking about trying to shoot ducks out of the air with a bow and arrow.
Post by: bobcat on May 20, 2010, 07:19:10 AM
If you want to see a bow and arrow on a bird there are many such examples on their effiveness.
I don't have time to watch a video right now but I really don't need to. I don't doubt their effectiveness on birds. But I do think a person is not always going to hit dead center on a duck or goose. (unless we're talking about birds that are not moving, I'm still not sure about that.)
Post by: Ray on May 20, 2010, 07:26:33 AM
Post by: MasterMisser on May 20, 2010, 11:44:51 AM
How many times have you seen a duck or goose on the news on TV with an arrow sticking out of it? I've seen it many times.What Channel was that on??? and when??? I want to see!!!!!! :chuckle:
Post by: MasterMisser on May 20, 2010, 12:04:37 PM
If you want to see a bow and arrow on a bird there are many such examples on their effiveness.
I don't have time to watch a video right now but I really don't need to. I don't doubt their effectiveness on birds. But I do think a person is not always going to hit dead center on a duck or goose. (unless we're talking about birds that are not moving, I'm still not sure about that.)
Dead Center??? I don't think hitting dead center on a bird is crucial!!!!! It will die no matter where you hit the thing! Unless you wing shoot it... It will have an inch and a half whole threw it!!!!!!!! get it??? :bash: :bash: :bash:
Post by: MasterMisser on May 20, 2010, 12:05:38 PM
QuoteTo say, well it's ok to risk wounding birds with arrows because some people take unethical shots beyond the effective range of their shotgun, is just ludicrous. What's the saying... two wrongs don't make a right.
That's a ridiculous statement. Nobody has said that it is ok to wound birds with a bow and arrow. I think it has been pointed out that the bow and arrow is a valid and lethal weapon for hunting birds and that most who would seriously partake in such activity would be more likely to kill than wound. Contrary to your assertion. I don't know where you get this stuff. To me your statements on this subject are ignorant and irresponsible. No offense, but my understanding is that you are clearly anti archery. I have come to this conclusion because I have read your opinion on random subjects of discussion for several years now. I think that is the issue more than anything. You have presented anecdotal incidents or suggestive discussion and tried to represent it as the authoritative and absolute fact. If you're going to attack archery in this manner you should be prepared to get criticized if you have put together such a flawed argument.
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Post by: MasterMisser on May 20, 2010, 12:06:22 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 20, 2010, 12:08:06 PM
Dead Center??? I don't think hitting dead center on a bird is crucial!!!!! It will die no matter where you hit the thing! Unless you wing shoot it... It will have an inch and a half whole threw it!!!!!!!! get it??? :bash: :bash: :bash:
No, I don't get it. You're saying there's no chance a person could miss and hit one in the bill? Or a leg? Do you think if you shoot a ducks bill off it will die immediately? What about a leg shot? You think that would drop it immediately ???
Do you shoot runnning deer and elk?
Post by: Austrian Hunter on May 20, 2010, 12:08:50 PM
You wouldn't have liked the show I watched the other night......carp fishing with a bow, except this was those chinese jumpin carp and they were shooting them in the air while they were moving in the boat. The boat causes them all to fly. COMBAT fishing at its best as teh carp were smacking the guys in the boat. GOOD stuff. I know, they should use a fishing pole instead of a bow and arrow, but it was still cool. ;)
I seen it too, I love Tiff and Lee!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: MasterMisser on May 20, 2010, 12:17:17 PM
Dead Center??? I don't think hitting dead center on a bird is crucial!!!!! It will die no matter where you hit the thing! Unless you wing shoot it... It will have an inch and a half whole threw it!!!!!!!! get it??? :bash: :bash: :bash:
No, I don't get it. You're saying there's no chance a person could miss and hit one in the bill? Or a leg? Do you think if you shoot a ducks bill off it will die immediately? What about a leg shot? You think that would drop it immediately ???
Do you shoot runnning deer and elk?
The Bill or Leg??? LOL That has to be the funniest SH*T I have ever heard! Do you know what those odds are??? I think what it comes down to is your just not talented enough to actually kill something with your bow. And that's OK! Archery hunting isn't for everyone. I understand that your having a hard time wrapping your mind around this one... but really... The bill??? I'm still Laughing! :chuckle:
And Yes I would take a shot on a running animal... If I felt I could take the animal ETHICALY and I was confident in my shooting abilities!
Post by: Ray on May 20, 2010, 06:02:55 PM
Post by: Copperwood on May 20, 2010, 06:23:51 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 20, 2010, 06:28:26 PM
Post by: Copperwood on May 20, 2010, 06:30:14 PM
But hey, if they want to go out and not kill anything, who am I to complain? More ducks for me to shoot can't be a bad thing.
Can't complain with that
Post by: bowtech721 on May 20, 2010, 06:50:12 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 20, 2010, 06:53:14 PM
Post by: bowman on May 20, 2010, 07:36:35 PM
This is a forum and Bobcat is just stating his opinion. I can understand where Bobcat is coming from and I can see everyone elses point of view too. As for myself I have never tried it or looked into it, I'm not going to voice my opinion on something I know nothing about.
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The Bill or Leg??? LOL That has to be the funniest SH*T I have ever heard! Do you know what those odds are??? I think what it comes down to is your just not talented enough to actually kill something with your bow. And that's OK! Archery hunting isn't for everyone. I understand that your having a hard time wrapping your mind around this one... but really... The bill??? I'm still Laughing!
First of all if anyone were to know the odds of hitting a bird in the bill, it would be you. You seem to know everything. Next anyone is talented enough to kill something with their bow. You shoot a deer in the hip with an arrow, congratulations you killed something. Good luck recovering it though. Anyone is talented enough to kill something with their bow not everyone is bright enough to ONLY take ethical shots.
Post by: ribka on May 21, 2010, 08:24:17 PM
Post by: ribka on May 21, 2010, 08:42:42 PM
Post by: Ray on May 21, 2010, 08:44:36 PM
And I was aiming for its beak :chuckle:
LOL.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 21, 2010, 08:55:19 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on May 22, 2010, 07:06:27 AM
Post by: sisu on May 22, 2010, 01:25:06 PM
Fred Eichler's Pheasant Hunt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M-b4-dXogo#)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 22, 2010, 01:51:50 PM
Post by: MasterMisser on May 26, 2010, 01:53:28 PM
And I was aiming for its beak :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
PERFECT!