Post by: Hornseeker on May 19, 2010, 09:34:42 AM
Wife is going to buy one...and me thinks that will be a good thing!! :IBCOOL:
Post by: Decker on May 19, 2010, 12:24:38 PM
Post by: batsquatch on May 19, 2010, 12:41:58 PM
Post by: wabow on May 19, 2010, 02:25:24 PM
but I've heard some good things and bad things about the video quality.
The video quality is pretty good as long as you have good lenses. The kit lense is too loud and slow IMO. The constant hammering of the auto fucus will destroy the cheap motor in kit lenses.
Don
Post by: Hornseeker on May 19, 2010, 06:33:24 PM
Post by: wabow on May 20, 2010, 07:52:56 AM
Huh...so in vid mode its focusing and refocusing more than when you are just taking pics? I could see that wearing on that motor.....
Your focus is AI servo when taking video meaning it will constantly try to refocus on the subject as it moves. The kit lenses junt dont hold up to that much use nor can they move fast enough anyways. Shoot in 720 and the video will be better with the kit lens.
Don
Post by: Hornseeker on May 21, 2010, 06:33:47 AM
Post by: wabow on May 24, 2010, 08:54:35 AM
What type of lens will work best with the HD Vid??
Any L glass. Personally I like the 17-40L for video with the t1I and 7d.
Don
Post by: Hornseeker on May 24, 2010, 01:32:28 PM
Post by: wabow on May 24, 2010, 02:15:54 PM
WA, I saw a little 50 mm I think, 2.8 or something like that, that is only like $80-90 new.... do you have that lens? Would it be a good indoor family lens? (not for vid...just pics)
Yes that is what most call the "nifty 50" Canon 50mm 1.8. I think everyone should have one. For the bucks you wont find a sharper lens. I take mine anyplace I dont feel comfortable taking the 1.2.
Don
Post by: Hornseeker on May 24, 2010, 03:09:17 PM
Post by: Missing on May 24, 2010, 09:27:11 PM
Post by: Decker on May 24, 2010, 10:29:51 PM
WA, I saw a little 50 mm I think, 2.8 or something like that, that is only like $80-90 new.... do you have that lens? Would it be a good indoor family lens? (not for vid...just pics)
Probably the best purchase, for the money, anyone can make. It's a MUST HAVE. The 1.8 f-stop can get CRAZY DOF, I mean eyes in focus with nose and background a beautiful Bokeh. Shoot like a pro for $100.00.
Post by: Hornseeker on May 25, 2010, 07:18:26 AM
Post by: wabow on May 25, 2010, 08:30:49 AM
That sounds awesome... I"ll order that sucker... when we order the cam.
Just dont expect low light miracles from it. It shoots much better at 2.8 or so. For low light a flash or two is a better option.
Don
Post by: boneaddict on May 25, 2010, 08:57:34 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on May 25, 2010, 09:53:40 AM
Can you fit any lens on any camera SLR? I have the Cannon Rebel and I am wondering if I can put a Nikon 50 mm f/1.8D AF Lens on it?? :dunno:
Post by: wabow on May 25, 2010, 09:55:01 AM
Question:
Can you fit any lens on any camera SLR? I have the Cannon Rebel and I am wonfering if I can put a Nikon 50 mm f/1.8D AF Lens on it?? :dunno:
Nope, sure would be nice.
Don
Post by: Austrian Hunter on May 25, 2010, 09:59:21 AM
Question:
Can you fit any lens on any camera SLR? I have the Cannon Rebel and I am wondering if I can put a Nikon 50 mm f/1.8D AF Lens on it?? :dunno:
Nope, sure would be nice.
Don
Uhhh, Thanks, that's what I thought.
Post by: Hornseeker on May 25, 2010, 10:07:21 AM
Post by: Decker on May 25, 2010, 10:41:17 AM
That sounds awesome... I"ll order that sucker... when we order the cam.
Just dont expect low light miracles from it. It shoots much better at 2.8 or so. For low light a flash or two is a better option.
IMO, the lower stops actually allow me to shoot a little faster of exposure in lower light, HOWEVER, I agree with you about using it at 2.8 for general shooting; it can sometimes be a little bit of a pain to get a perfect focus when your depth of field is only a few inches wide when set to f/1.8...that and all lower end plastic lenses tend to hunt a little and are often off when using auto focus. Regardless of all that, these are minor technicalities to learn for what that darn little piece of plastic can do. Here's an example of the great DOF.
Post by: wabow on May 25, 2010, 10:48:07 AM
Not the sharpest 1.8@1/25 IIRC.
Post by: Hornseeker on May 25, 2010, 03:35:04 PM
Post by: Hornseeker on May 26, 2010, 06:03:29 AM
Post by: Hornseeker on May 26, 2010, 06:17:35 AM
EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens..... Now... I already know I am going to be buying the Nifty Fifty....
What is a BETTER, affordable (under $400??) lens for everyday shooting/family/sports/etc.... Than this "kit" lens?
Thanks MUCH!
And hey...with 1.6 crop... I guess the kit lens is effectively 28-88? So to get a true wide angle, I have to drop way down?
E
Post by: wabow on May 26, 2010, 08:44:15 AM
OK, I looked.... the "body only" has everything the "lens kit" has, except for the lens.. So, for about $130 I can get this
EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens..... Now... I already know I am going to be buying the Nifty Fifty....
What is a BETTER, affordable (under $400??) lens for everyday shooting/family/sports/etc.... Than this "kit" lens?
Thanks MUCH!
And hey...with 1.6 crop... I guess the kit lens is effectively 28-88? So to get a true wide angle, I have to drop way down?
E
The kit lens is a ok lens for the bucks, the IS version is much better than past versions. You will want a zoom lens, having just a 50mm prime wouldnt be much fun. Your right about the crop factor but dont stress over it, just learn to shoot. If you could afford it in IMO a 17-40F4L would be a better choice than the kit lens. Check with B&H and see if they can work out a deal. You will get everthing you need to start off, with the body except for maybe a SD card but they are cheap.
Don
Post by: Hornseeker on May 26, 2010, 10:00:52 AM
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But the $1200 price tag doesn't work....
This is what I'd like... to make me happy! :IBCOOL:
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But the 7G's again interfere with reality....
I bought a sigma 28-205 3.8-5.6 UC-III for my Elan about 6 or 7 years ago.... would this lens work in the T1i? Would it be Crap compared to the kit lens??
Post by: wabow on May 26, 2010, 10:38:56 AM
Not sure about that sigma but I'd give it a shot and see how you like it before jumping into high dollar canons. The 16-35 is sweet I rented one for a weekend. To much money for a zoom lens unless you shoot alot of weddings or something like that.
Don
Post by: Decker on May 26, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
Post by: Hornseeker on May 26, 2010, 12:06:25 PM
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Post by: Hornseeker on May 26, 2010, 02:17:04 PM
Post by: Hornseeker on May 26, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
http://www.thundercameras.com/products.asp?dept_id=10002&product_id=1804 (http://www.thundercameras.com/products.asp?dept_id=10002&product_id=1804)
This "Body" for $419? Its $630 at any credible shop? And the lens you pointed out... its near $400 everywhere... I'm not getting it...
They even have a 50D body, brand new, listed for $620 or so.....
E
Post by: wabow on May 26, 2010, 03:08:34 PM
Whats up with this site?? What is the catch?
http://www.thundercameras.com/products.asp?dept_id=10002&product_id=1804 (http://www.thundercameras.com/products.asp?dept_id=10002&product_id=1804)
This "Body" for $419? Its $630 at any credible shop? And the lens you pointed out... its near $400 everywhere... I'm not getting it...
They even have a 50D body, brand new, listed for $620 or so.....
E
Do your homework before buying from someplace like that, their are alot of crooks in the industry. A price that is alot lower than the competitor is likely a scam. The 28-135 is not being phased out so that canon can make more money. It was a kit lens option for the 50d and was not popular due to all the problems with vignetting and barrel distortion.
B&H and Adorama are two good vendors B&H being one of the best in the industry.
Don
Post by: Hornseeker on May 26, 2010, 05:56:35 PM
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Post by: bearmanric on May 27, 2010, 07:01:17 AM
Post by: Decker on May 27, 2010, 08:44:13 AM
i have the xsi EOS 450D . a couple week's ago i hit one of the button i guess. i cant get the moniter to show the picture now.
Rick, try hitting the display button on the upper left-hand side of the camera. ...Or are you trying to get the monitor to show what the camera is shooting? This is called "live view" mode and can be enabled by pressing the menu button and going through the menus until you find the option for "Live view mode". Once it is enabled if you hit the enter button (in the center of the four directional buttons) while shooting it will change the monitor to show what the camera is looking at - much like a point and shoot would.
Post by: bearmanric on May 27, 2010, 08:58:04 AM
Post by: wabow on May 27, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
If its not enabled in the menu look for the live view in one of the first two menu options and enable it.
Don
Post by: Decker on May 27, 2010, 09:18:23 AM
yes i want the live view mode. cant find it yet.Rick
Once camera is powered on, press menu, move to the 5th menu to the right (middle yellow menu with the wrench icon) scroll down to "live view function settings" - second from the bottom, press "set" key to select this menu. On live view shoot press "set" key again to enable. If you are partial to a 1/3 grid, for composition purposes, go down one more and turn "grid display" on. I don't often shoot in live view, but I DO like the grid when I do so I can see if I'm lining up subjects on the 1/3 lines. Now you have ENABLED live view shooting mode, but that didn't actually change the camera TO live view. All you need to do, while it is enabled, is press the "set" key while in any shooting mode to turn the display into the live view mode and visca versa to turn it off.
Hope this helps,
Decks
Post by: Decker on May 27, 2010, 09:24:53 AM
Whats up with this site?? What is the catch?
http://www.thundercameras.com/products.asp?dept_id=10002&product_id=1804 (http://www.thundercameras.com/products.asp?dept_id=10002&product_id=1804)
This "Body" for $419? Its $630 at any credible shop? And the lens you pointed out... its near $400 everywhere... I'm not getting it...
They even have a 50D body, brand new, listed for $620 or so.....
E
Okay, so this site IS A SCAM!!!!!! Both Thunder Cameras and Primo Cameras are sites that come up on Nextag.com as sellers. I can tell you I just tried ordering a lens from Thunder because the price was good. They sent me an email and said they wouldn't ship until I called them. Called them and after all of the normal verification of the order and blah blah blah (I was already wondering why they would want to confirm everything they already had?) The operator asked me why I was ordering the IMPORT version of the lens which has a plastic mount and would lose some stops. Upon further inquiry, he stated that they sold the AMERICAN version of the lens for the price everyone else was selling on Nextag.com when I questioned this business practice, he immediately just cancelled my order and HUNG UP ON ME.
I next tried Primo Cameras and had nearly the exact same experience. If ordering off of vendors that come up on Nextag.com, I would use one of the "trusted sellers". Found the lens cheaper on Amazon from a very reliable seller and went that way.
BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bearmanric on May 27, 2010, 09:31:05 AM