Post by: boneaddict on May 21, 2010, 08:50:05 AM
Post by: Curly on May 21, 2010, 09:14:36 AM
Wild birds are probably in the same boat, huh. :dunno:
Post by: PolarBear on May 21, 2010, 09:29:07 AM
Post by: GoldTip on May 21, 2010, 09:51:10 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 21, 2010, 10:01:18 AM
Post by: bobcat on May 21, 2010, 10:03:22 AM
Post by: teal101 on May 21, 2010, 04:33:58 PM
Post by: Birdguy on May 21, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
Post by: boneaddict on May 21, 2010, 05:54:24 PM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on May 21, 2010, 06:23:13 PM
Post by: sako223 on May 21, 2010, 06:27:14 PM
Post by: Curly on May 21, 2010, 06:29:50 PM
Post by: sisu on May 21, 2010, 07:05:05 PM
Had three large batches of quail hatch Monday night around my place. Nice strong, large batches, then we got hit with that big storm Wednesday night and KILLED them ALL. All three sets of parents, not one baby. :( I am hoping some hadn't hatched yet and hoping the ringnecks made it.We had a HARD frost here last evening. I covered my tomatoes but believe I lost all but one plant.
Post by: turkey slayer on May 22, 2010, 02:40:45 PM
Post by: teal101 on May 25, 2010, 10:41:08 AM
Post by: sisu on May 25, 2010, 11:35:37 AM
Post by: boneaddict on May 25, 2010, 11:40:46 AM
Post by: Tealer on May 25, 2010, 11:22:46 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on May 25, 2010, 11:33:01 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 26, 2010, 07:19:38 AM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on May 27, 2010, 01:24:58 PM
One of the ladies I work with said she saw a pheasant with a group of chicks and a turkey with 3 chicks the other day. I have two pair of quail that come to the bird feeder at the house and I have only seen the hens once or twice in the past week. So....I'm hoping to see some little fluff balls soon.
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on May 27, 2010, 01:44:14 PM
Post by: teal101 on June 02, 2010, 04:21:22 PM
Normally see quite a few quail with chicks, but have yet to see any chicks yet here. Of course I have only seen 1 fawn this year compared to several in years past.
Same here. Our backyard is usually full of puff balls by now, so far nothing. It's pouring here in Wenatchee again...
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on June 02, 2010, 04:45:20 PM
Post by: turkey slayer on June 06, 2010, 11:15:32 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 06, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Post by: boneaddict on June 07, 2010, 12:43:02 PM
Post by: bow4elk on June 07, 2010, 12:50:46 PM
Glad there are some success stories. My dumb neighbor burned his age old brushpile that probably a minimal of 3-5 quail used to hatch out birds and keep them safe in bad weather. My mother had it there prior to him purchasing it, and it was "supposedly on my land" long....story. Anyway, he is such an evironmental freak, yet burned that pile. LOL WEIRDOS
Environmental elitists are typically the most ignorant and outspoken...bafoons!
Post by: teal101 on June 08, 2010, 04:53:50 PM
Bring on the rain tomorrow :bdid: :'(
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on June 15, 2010, 07:38:28 AM
Post by: teal101 on June 15, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on June 16, 2010, 06:28:10 PM
Post by: teal101 on June 17, 2010, 11:15:58 AM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on June 20, 2010, 07:58:17 PM
Post by: Machias on June 30, 2010, 04:11:29 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on June 30, 2010, 04:14:44 PM
Post by: GoldTip on June 30, 2010, 04:17:52 PM
I have yet to see any quail chicks this year, Lots of pairs though.
Me too. :(
Post by: Curly on June 30, 2010, 04:45:06 PM
Post by: tlbradford on June 30, 2010, 04:53:42 PM
I have yet to see any quail chicks this year, Lots of pairs though.
Me too. :(
+2
Post by: Big game archer on June 30, 2010, 05:50:09 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on June 30, 2010, 06:05:24 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 30, 2010, 08:18:05 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 30, 2010, 08:29:18 PM
Post by: Viszla on July 01, 2010, 12:44:04 PM
Post by: sako223 on July 01, 2010, 01:18:05 PM
Post by: alecvg on July 01, 2010, 01:34:21 PM
I guess instead of grouse hunting in September I'll hunt bears. And in November and December, instead of pheasants, I'll hunt coyotes.
Thats my plan too, I was really pumped for grouse season this year. :bash:
Post by: floatinghat on July 03, 2010, 01:11:05 PM
Quite different here, tons of chicks hundreds some are flying. The other day there were 60 chicks around me at the same time. Many broods of 16 or often two pairs with so many it is impossible to count the brood, like a herd of mice.
So what general area is "here"?
Post by: rasbo on July 03, 2010, 01:37:46 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on July 05, 2010, 05:10:33 PM
Post by: boneaddict on July 09, 2010, 06:45:25 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 09, 2010, 06:50:57 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on July 10, 2010, 08:36:11 PM
Post by: teal101 on July 16, 2010, 04:57:31 PM
Wenatchee is toast for upland birds.
I've got 5 nests within 50 feet of my house and so far 6 broods in about a 4 acre area. More than we had last year. Even kicked some huns out. Lookin good up here.
Post by: bobcat on July 16, 2010, 05:07:51 PM
Wenatchee is toast for upland birds.
I've got 5 nests within 50 feet of my house and so far 6 broods in about a 4 acre area. More than we had last year. Even kicked some huns out. Lookin good up here.
Quail?
Post by: Machias on July 16, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
Post by: WCTaxidermy on July 18, 2010, 05:40:13 PM
Post by: tlbradford on July 18, 2010, 06:38:34 PM
Post by: Viszla on July 20, 2010, 10:50:52 AM
Post by: seth30 on July 20, 2010, 11:07:06 AM
Post by: thinkingman on July 20, 2010, 03:41:47 PM
Not sure if that matters but hoping for lots of grouse and pheasants.
Post by: MtnMuley on July 20, 2010, 04:05:19 PM
Post by: Viszla on July 21, 2010, 08:09:27 AM
1 bad and 1 horrific last two years for the grouse hatch in Okanogan County. :( Even though I am a die hard grouse hunter, I would like to see them shut down the season here this year. With all the fires over the past few years and last two wet springs, the birds are big trouble.Wow, I am surprised to see someone feel the same way I do. I have written and complained to WDFW for years that they need to at least shorten the season to September only. But what do they do? They up the limit!! :bash: There is no reason the grouse season should be open during deer and elk seasons. Every yahoo road hunter who comes across a grouse shoots it.
Post by: MtnMuley on July 21, 2010, 12:20:29 PM
Post by: Curly on July 21, 2010, 12:53:34 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 21, 2010, 01:37:24 PM
I never really understood why they increased the bag limit either. There were a lot of grouse last year......most I've ever seen, but this year doesn't look too good so far. Seems like this year the limit should go back down to 3 or even shorten the season.
If there aren't many grouse, people aren't going to kill 4 per day anyway. Also, if there are very few grouse, most people aren't going to spend much time hunting them. So in a bad year, relatively few grouse will be killed. Reducing the limit and/or the season length, won't make much, if any, difference in the grouse population next year.
Post by: Viszla on July 21, 2010, 02:32:28 PM
I never really understood why they increased the bag limit either. There were a lot of grouse last year......most I've ever seen, but this year doesn't look too good so far. Seems like this year the limit should go back down to 3 or even shorten the season.
If there aren't many grouse, people aren't going to kill 4 per day anyway. Also, if there are very few grouse, most people aren't going to spend much time hunting them. So in a bad year, relatively few grouse will be killed. Reducing the limit and/or the season length, won't make much, if any, difference in the grouse population next year.
I don't really understand your bassackward logic. So if we open up the season year round it won't matter, huh?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 21, 2010, 02:37:38 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 21, 2010, 02:47:03 PM
I never really understood why they increased the bag limit either. There were a lot of grouse last year......most I've ever seen, but this year doesn't look too good so far. Seems like this year the limit should go back down to 3 or even shorten the season.
If there aren't many grouse, people aren't going to kill 4 per day anyway. Also, if there are very few grouse, most people aren't going to spend much time hunting them. So in a bad year, relatively few grouse will be killed. Reducing the limit and/or the season length, won't make much, if any, difference in the grouse population next year.
I don't really understand your bassackward logic. So if we open up the season year round it won't matter, huh?
How do you not understand that if people go out in the woods and don't see any grouse, that they aren't going to continue to go grouse hunting? If they're not grouse hunting, they aren't going to kill any grouse. People will stay home and save their gas if they go out there once and don't see one bird. However if you go out the first time and see 50 grouse in a half a day, you're going to tell all your friends and family, and then you and a bunch more people will be out there hunting them. And if you're seeing 50 in a half a day, there's a good chance you might kill a limit of 4. But if you stay home, and your friends and family never even go out once, because you didn't tell them about all the grouse you saw, then zero will be killed. Does it make sense now?
Post by: Viszla on July 21, 2010, 02:53:43 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 21, 2010, 02:56:03 PM
No
I guess it's safe to assume that you've never taken any courses or read any books about wildlife management then? I won't bother wasting any more of my time trying to explain it to you. :rolleyes:
Post by: bobcat on July 21, 2010, 03:09:48 PM
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The current Sep. 1 to Dec. 31 hunting season structure has been in place since 1987. A daily bag limit of 3 of any of the three species was in place from 1952 to 2009 when the bag limit was raised to four. This increase in the bag limit was not made in response to increasing populations, but rather in response to increasing opportunity. Since hunters average approximately 0.4 grouse per day hunted, which has been the case for over 50 years, increasing the bag limit should not impact overall populations.
If you want to read more go to this link (http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/status/09trend.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/status/09trend.pdf)) and start reading on page 268.
Post by: Viszla on July 21, 2010, 03:19:08 PM
I'm sorry, but you are the one who needs to do a little reading and rethink your logic. Off topic, but are you with the game dept. because you sure have way too much faith in them.
Post by: bobcat on July 21, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 21, 2010, 03:28:27 PM
Post by: Viszla on July 21, 2010, 03:32:25 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on July 21, 2010, 04:30:54 PM
Post by: tlbradford on July 22, 2010, 08:09:47 AM
Post by: croix on July 22, 2010, 08:25:30 AM
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The current Sep. 1 to Dec. 31 hunting season structure has been in place since 1987. A daily bag limit of 3 of any of the three species was in place from 1952 to 2009 when the bag limit was raised to four. This increase in the bag limit was not made in response to increasing populations, but rather in response to increasing opportunity. Since hunters average approximately 0.4 grouse per day hunted, which has been the case for over 50 years, increasing the bag limit should not impact overall populations.
if the average is .4 grouse per day for the last 50 years, then it seems to me the limit could be 1 or 20 and the same amount will be taken on average. there are of course exceptions wherein one or two guys really have them dialed in and can put a hurt on them even in a bad year, but the overall average for the state would likely remain the same. i don't know that i can explain it any differently, but i smell what your steppin in bobcat.
Post by: tlbradford on July 22, 2010, 08:29:51 AM
Post by: Viszla on July 22, 2010, 09:03:20 AM
Post by: bobcat on July 22, 2010, 09:10:13 AM
Post by: Viszla on July 22, 2010, 09:13:25 AM
Post by: bobcat on July 22, 2010, 09:18:18 AM
Why not just shorten the season?
It wouldn't have a significant difference in the harvest. Don't you think most grouse are killed in September and October? How much would the harvest be reduced if the season was cut from 4 months to 2 months? I'd guess about 1%. What you have to realize, is that predators and the weather have a lot more affect on grouse numbers than we do.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 22, 2010, 09:38:02 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on July 22, 2010, 04:15:07 PM
What you have to realize, is that predators and the weather have a lot more affect on grouse numbers than we do.
Absolutely. The number of grouse feather piles I found in the 2500'-4000' elevations this spring shed hunting, was unreal. 10-15 piles a day, several times this spring. :(
Post by: ICEMAN on July 22, 2010, 05:46:57 PM
Post by: DeerThug on August 11, 2010, 09:23:49 PM
This is all around the lower yakima valley - bird hunting is not ever going to get back to what it was when i was a kid.
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