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Title: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: haus on June 09, 2010, 05:14:29 PM
edit: I'll just save the Elite XLR info for another time.
Title: 2009 Elite XLR
Post by: haus on June 10, 2010, 08:46:16 PM
Some hunt-wa members have pm'd me and posted in other threads asking about the foregone locked thread and how things turned out.

- Now I had every intention just to immediately put the Rytera Alien Z(consolation from Martin for my refusal to shoot another Shadowcat even if they put Titanium/Carbon Fiber/NASA quality limbs on it  :chuckle: )  up for sale as NIB, wash my hands clean of the crap that went down before and move on......but since I hadn't a chance to shoot very much for close to 4 MONTHS(hugs n' kisses to Martin)  :rolleyes: ....I couldn't resist leaving it in the box. I mean what could it hurt, even NIB a bow loses damn near an equal amount of value soon as it leaves the dealer NIB or not. MISTAKE

- So I shot the Z for a couple weeks. Immediately I was concerned about the draw length, nothing to do with the bow itself. I'm a 32" draw and the Z only goes to 31" but I'd heard its not necessarily a bad thing to have under draw, or least its better than over draw. True enough it is workable......I did get consistent accuracy out to about 50 yards. Even shot my first robinhood. 40 yards......but having that holding arm bent makes it so easy to torque the bow. If I wasn't spot on with my form I'd toss an arrow offline easily, which in retrospect considering I'm so new it forced me to learn really good form or I'd end up with a big shotgun spread of arrows on the target. So I put the Z up for sale. :D

- I kept shooting it though and at about week two things started going wrong. We noticed one of the cable servings was coming apart. My buddy Ryan did a band-aid job on it and got me back to shooting, though he said bluntly "those strings suck, it'll get you by for a bit". True nuff. Couple days later both cable servings were coming apart at the end where each wraps tight around the base of the cam. So I took it back in to have Ryan take a look at it. Well then we see the top limb has a very small splinter about mid limb on one edge.   >:(
Now its not a big splinter, but still. So back to Martin we go.....

- Needless to say my patience was shot, I wasn't too happy on the phone and Martin CS as nice and as responsive as ever, they wanted to try and work it out but I was done and demanded my money back 'so you better talk to the dealer or whoever so I get it back'. In response to this I was asked if I'd be willing to talk to some guy named Terry. Well I didn't know who Terry was but I said sure he can give me a call.

- Later that day I get a call from this Terry guy, but I was busy at work so I didn't get a chance to call back till a few hours later. Well when I call the # for this Terry guy it rings regular, no automated Martin message system. Kinda odd I thought. Well this guy answers and it sounds like I woke him up. So now I'm thinkin' wtf this is getting real odd. Well through the groggy response I figure out this is Terry that picked up the phone and once he shakes off the cobwebs we start discussing my rather interesting history with the Martin product. Still I haven't asked who I'm talking to exactly, I was rolling with assuming it was some department manager, well about midway through the conversation after I hear "...well I don't normally call customers, but in some cases I step in because we really pride ourselves on customer service......" and my response "I've plenty of experience with Martin CS and I'd have to say it is quite good, but I don't know who ya are sir so how often you talk to customers doesn't have much meaning to me"...."well I'm Terry.......Terry Martin"....   :DOH:     :lol4:


We talked for about an hour or so, good conversation and he had a lot of interesting things to say, what will come of it I don't know. I haven't heard back yet and we haven't received the replacement limbs and strings yet  :dunno:

In the meantime I found a good price on a used 2009 Elite XLR, which now has 2010 rev cams and #1 mods on it(32" draw), tomorrow the Winners Choice strings should arrive and I'll be all set. I hope something works out quick with Martin cuz I'm stretched for coin now but I had to bight the bullet on something because the clocks ticking towards opening day.
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 10, 2010, 08:58:24 PM
i just got a elite xlr as well its under the bowfishing area and it is great. it has the cuda cams on it and it loves to eat them carp up :tup:
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: haus on June 10, 2010, 09:05:29 PM
i just got a elite xlr as well its under the bowfishing area and it is great. it has the cuda cams on it and it loves to eat them carp up :tup:

Right on Carp!  :)  The XLR's awesome! I didn't get much chance to shoot it yet though, just paper tuning, speed check, and peep alignment just in case the WC strings don't show up tomorrow I'll at least be able to shoot. I do have some 29" 2009 rev cams that I need to find a home for.....
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: haus on June 11, 2010, 02:27:40 PM
Well the Rytera Alien Z is all setup with some new fancy dancy limbs from Martin and some replacement cables/string with improved serving quality. That's what I was told!
Back up for sale it goes!  :)
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: Todd_ID on June 11, 2010, 08:39:18 PM
Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to just get the arm shortening surgery?  Hope it works out for you!
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: Old Dog on June 12, 2010, 06:00:04 PM
Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to just get the arm shortening surgery?  Hope it works out for you!

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :yeah:
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: Ratdog68 on June 13, 2010, 09:36:29 AM
Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to just get the arm shortening surgery?  Hope it works out for you!

I've got a new chainsaw blade... who's got the bandaids?   :P  :chuckle:
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: haus on June 14, 2010, 12:11:04 PM
 :o I don't wanna be a T-Rex!!!!   :chuckle:

seem's to be no indication that I'd be reimbursed from Martin or Great NW Archary or both, as I've received no follow up from Martin. Their message to me is quite clear, bend over insert Rytera Alien Z with splintered limb and bad cables, next is a completely new Shadowcat with the wrong limbs, followed by your favorite, your first Shadowcat with two sets of broken limbs we'll slide that one in sideways too! Thank you very much, hope you had a great time. Now **** *** ! with a cherry on top!  :beatdeadhorse:   Oh and by the way...."WELCOME TO ARCHERY I HOPE YOU LIKE IT"  :tup:

 :(
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: Woodchuck on June 14, 2010, 12:27:35 PM
how about we just call ya kangaroo? would that be better?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 14, 2010, 12:58:49 PM
I talked to a guy this weekend who bought a firecat and went thru 3 sets of limbs before he sold it. The same thing happened to his son. I will never buy anything with martins name on it after reading all of this.
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: konrad on June 14, 2010, 06:43:52 PM
Two words:

Bear Archery...
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: halflife65 on June 14, 2010, 07:14:12 PM
One word: Mathews

Probably easily replace by: Hoyt

Either way, you should be good to go.
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: haus on June 14, 2010, 07:21:30 PM
The Elite XLR is a goodin', think I'm set with a decent bow finally  :)
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 14, 2010, 07:28:44 PM
yep, i love mine
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: Jason on June 14, 2010, 07:45:03 PM
One word: Mathews

Probably easily replace by: Hoyt

Either way, you should be good to go.
you got to be kidding??

one word: BOWTECH
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 14, 2010, 07:53:13 PM
One word: Mathews

Probably easily replace by: Hoyt

Either way, you should be good to go.
you got to be kidding??

one word: BOWTECH


you both have got to be kidding PSE :chuckle: fastest bow in the world :P catch that :P
Title: Re: New Bow....... Edit: ....Update to the Martin story.
Post by: halflife65 on June 14, 2010, 07:54:26 PM
 :chuckle:  perfect.
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