Post by: HntnFsh on June 18, 2010, 06:34:14 PM
But thinking on it.Is it really anything special.Other than being able to shoot any buck.And only having 25 hunters in the area?
Doesnt this area get hammered pretty hard during the regular seasons?Or is it a chance to get a great buck,because of the rut,migration, or something else.Just curious.I would appreciate any input.
Never hunted the area before.Only been there once.And that was extremely limited.My brother in law has hunted it a lot for archery deer season.
So,is it really a quality deer hunt.I know quality is in the eyes of the beholder.And Ive had several quality hunts.As far as what I expect a quality hunt to be..Not necessarily a quality hunt as in the size of the trophy.Although that can add to the quality hunt experience.
Post by: halflife65 on June 18, 2010, 06:39:51 PM
Probably do a bit of research. Yes, it is that special. Migratory deer, the right weather conditions. Potentially, those tags will be AWESOME.
Post by: alecvg on June 18, 2010, 06:51:43 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on June 18, 2010, 06:52:09 PM
And I definetly have a bunch of research and scouting to do.Hopefully my Brother in law can join me.Beings he knows the area pretty well.
I kind of had my suspicions about that stuff.But beings I have had no experience in that area.I wasnt really sure.
Hopefully you and a bunch of others will validate my thinking.
Post by: boneaddict on June 18, 2010, 06:55:26 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on June 18, 2010, 07:06:45 PM
Post by: actionshooter on June 18, 2010, 07:07:11 PM
This is why I hate our state. Just curious why you applied for it if you didn't think it was special. Had an extra 5 bucks burning a hole in your pocket and saw the draw odds. :dunno:
kinda what I was wondering,
You would have a 5 gallon bucket of left nutts if you could trade one for either of those tags!
Post by: HntnFsh on June 18, 2010, 07:07:52 PM
But I put in for it because Ive never hunted the east side before.Was hoping that against all odds I might draw a tag that would offer me a chance to bag a nice buck.Believe me I can appreciate good things.
I take my hunting pretty serious.And will do my best to make it a quality hunt no matter the outcome.I cant believe you would question my motives without even knowing me.
I guess I dont understand why that would make you hate this state.Jealusy(sp),I dont know.
Should a person only apply for a tag area that they have an intimate knowledge of.Thats what I'm reading from your post.Or should they try to get as much knowledge of an area as they can once they get drawn.Or if they plan to hunt it.
Have you ever hunted an area that you didnt know all the ins and outs of?I bet you have.Thats part of how we gain knowledge.
Post by: actionshooter on June 18, 2010, 07:08:18 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on June 18, 2010, 07:11:41 PM
Send me a pm when you find out which tag it is and i will help you out as much as I can. I went with a friend that drew the entiat tag a couple years ago and I have hunted the swakane during the general season.
Post by: actionshooter on June 18, 2010, 07:12:35 PM
As a matter of fact I did have an extra $5 in my pocket. :rolleyes:
But I put in for it because Ive never hunted the east side before.Was hoping that against all odds I might draw a tag that would offer me a chance to bag a nice buck.Believe me I can appreciate good things.
I take my hunting pretty serious.And will do my best to make it a quality hunt no matter the outcome.I cant believe you would question my motives without even knowing me.
I guess I dont understand why that would make you hate this state.Jealusy(sp),I dont know.
Should a person only apply for a tag area that they have an intimate knowledge of.Thats what I'm reading from your post.Or should they try to get as much knowledge of an area as they can once they get drawn.Or if they plan to hunt it.
Have you ever hunted an area that you didnt know all the ins and outs of?I bet you have.Thats part of how we gain knowledge.
I don't think its jealousy, its the irony of the drawing in this state, one guys lives and breathes to draw a tag like those and another guy puts in on a whim (so too speak)
Congrats on your tag, I'm sure you will make it count.
Post by: bobcat on June 18, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
Post by: H2Ofuzz on June 18, 2010, 07:13:38 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on June 18, 2010, 07:14:06 PM
HntnFsh,Thank you.The offer is very much appreciated! :hello:
Send me a pm when you find out which tag it is and i will help you out as much as I can. I went with a friend that drew the entiat tag a couple years ago and I have hunted the swakane during the general season.
Post by: bobcat on June 18, 2010, 07:15:03 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on June 18, 2010, 07:20:33 PM
If you have to ask if it is truly a quality hunt. Then yes please dont apply. Leave it to the guys that have YEARS of experience on the area and know what it is to draw one of those tags. I am in aw that you would even ask that question and not expect to get bashed.
I am in awe that I would get bashed.Because of it.
But if that makes me an *censored*.Its ok.I can deal with it.After all,if the draw holds up.I'm the one with the tag.And judging from the responses its really is a pretty special one.
I guess I just dont think like a lot of people.I would be happy for anybody that drew any tag.And do what I could to help them out.Pretty much no matter the circumstances.to each their own.
Post by: benhuntin on June 18, 2010, 07:21:10 PM
Post by: H2Ofuzz on June 18, 2010, 07:23:03 PM
If you have to ask if it is truly a quality hunt. Then yes please dont apply. Leave it to the guys that have YEARS of experience on the area and know what it is to draw one of those tags. I am in aw that you would even ask that question and not expect to get bashed.
I am in awe that I would get bashed.Because of it.
But if that makes me an *censored*.Its ok.I can deal with it.After all,if the draw holds up.I'm the one with the tag.And judging from the responses its really is a pretty special one.
I guess I just dont think like a lot of people.I would be happy for anybody that drew any tag.And do what I could to help them out.Pretty much no matter the circumstances.to each their own.
Post by: Bigshooter on June 18, 2010, 07:24:18 PM
Sent you a pm.
Post by: jackelope on June 18, 2010, 07:38:15 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on June 18, 2010, 07:39:25 PM
Dont get me wrong i am very happy for your and very jealous. I just wish you knew what you had.
I had an idea of what I my have.Although its not a given yet.As the draw isnt official.
Like I said,my Brother in law has hunted it a lot.I know others that have hunted it.And yes,Entiat is a pretty well known area.Maybe I just didnt quite grasp the whole concept of how special that tag could be.
I feel really fortunate to draw ant tag I get.Ive been applying for permits since I was 9 years old.Thats 42 years of applications.And Ive drawn a grand total of 2 tags.Those were elk.And maybe this 1 deer tag.
So I will put the effort into this to make it worth my while.
Post by: WDFW-SUX on June 18, 2010, 07:39:48 PM
Post by: grundy53 on June 18, 2010, 07:41:44 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on June 18, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 18, 2010, 07:43:15 PM
Post by: H2Ofuzz on June 18, 2010, 07:46:06 PM
Should they have a requirement that you scout 16 weeks a year for 5 years before you can put in for that spot?
I would give my left nut for them to do that. That would weed them out quick. Maybe i would have a fighting chance then.
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 18, 2010, 07:47:52 PM
Post by: Amsdad on June 18, 2010, 08:11:38 PM
Well said..
HntnFsh,
Congrats on the tag and best of luck...
Post by: Vees on June 18, 2010, 08:12:43 PM
I wouldn't worry about some of the comments you've received. Everyone who enjoys hunting derserves a chance at a quality hunt, not just those who live and breath hunting 24/7. There are hunts for those people who want to separate themselves from the "average joes" by purely hard work, effort and planning....the high hunt being one of them. Not to mention, I'm sure some of the guys giving you a hard time are applying for great tags all over the West that I guarantee you they haven't hunted before or scouted yet. Kinda doubt people will fly down to New Mexico to scout before they apply for a tag! So good luck, hope you get one for the record books!
Vees
Post by: billythekidrock on June 18, 2010, 08:32:31 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on June 18, 2010, 08:33:11 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on June 18, 2010, 08:50:23 PM
I agree with some of the "Quality" hunts, but there are others in that category that are nothing more then a longer season. No real chance at a true trophy, but definately less competition.Kind of like me drawing my "quality Deer" tag, either (and I hope) it is L.T.Murray, where I have hunted for 20 years for elk, and know chances are good to get an O.K. deer (3 pt+)
or I get to actually hunt archery during the blacktail rut (first week of November) south of Olympic Nat. Park (536)
Post by: halflife65 on June 18, 2010, 08:57:12 PM
So, not at all upset by the fact someone drew a great unit and hadn't hunted there - just kind of in shock that the guy put in for the unit, apparently picking the name out of a hat, was lucky enough to not only pick the right name but then to draw it, and then wonder if it was really a big deal. Just kind of amazing.
Post by: billythekidrock on June 18, 2010, 09:01:51 PM
I agree with some of the "Quality" hunts, but there are others in that category that are nothing more then a longer season. No real chance at a true trophy, but definately less competition.Kind of like me drawing my "quality Deer" tag, either (and I hope) it is L.T.Murray, where I have hunted for 20 years for elk, and know chances are good to get an O.K. deer (3 pt+)
or I get to actually hunt archery during the blacktail rut (first week of November) south of Olympic Nat. Park (536)
Just like the CF. Not a trophy unit, but only ten deer hunters with an additional 24 days in November. :dunno: Not too bad.
Post by: bobcat on June 18, 2010, 09:14:39 PM
I agree with some of the "Quality" hunts, but there are others in that category that are nothing more then a longer season. No real chance at a true trophy, but definately less competition.Kind of like me drawing my "quality Deer" tag, either (and I hope) it is L.T.Murray, where I have hunted for 20 years for elk, and know chances are good to get an O.K. deer (3 pt+)
or I get to actually hunt archery during the blacktail rut (first week of November) south of Olympic Nat. Park (536)
Just like the CF. Not a trophy unit, but only ten deer hunters with an additional 24 days in November. :dunno: Not too bad.
Yeah, long season and few hunters. Fun hunt, even if it isn't necessarily for "quality" bucks. It's still a quality hunt for those other reasons. But it's not any better than some of the other hunts that for some reason didn't make the quality category and got stuck in the regular "buck" category instead. :dunno:
Post by: billythekidrock on June 18, 2010, 09:17:42 PM
Did you take a drive this evening?
Post by: bobcat on June 18, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Post by: winston2789 on June 18, 2010, 09:52:21 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on June 18, 2010, 10:10:21 PM
Didnt really just pull the name out of the hat.I did apply because of the reputation of the unit.I do have a little knowledge of it.Not a lot though.
I think maybe I just didnt realize the full potential of that unit during that time frame.
Post by: seaduckhunter on June 18, 2010, 10:37:21 PM
Should they have a requirement that you scout 16 weeks a year for 5 years before you can put in for that spot?
I would give my left nut for them to do that. That would weed them out quick. Maybe i would have a fighting chance then.
Post by: Little Dave on June 18, 2010, 10:52:13 PM
Quality...
Is a Quality Inn special? Maybe some are, maybe not. You don't wan't to be caught up in somebody telling you that this is quality. You have to figure it out for yourself and do your homework. Lest you stay in the Quality Inn at Vegas and assume you have found the best.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on June 18, 2010, 11:32:42 PM
If you were after a trophy of a lifetime, you probably would have spent some time researching before making a choice of what to apply for,
But because you don't seem to be aware of what the potential is for the area, you will most likely be happy with any decent buck, but that is fine, as long as you are happy with it.
Many years ago I hunted the Swakane during late Archery, and the place was loaded with 30 inch Mulies, but I only hunted it once since the fires of '94
As for myself...
I applied for, and got drawn, for one of two hunts just for the opportunity presented to get a buck.
I am a Trad archer, and mostly hunt elk, and shoot any deer dumb enough to stand in front of me that is legal.
I either get 3 extra weeks to hunt deer (2 pt + buck only), or I get to be one of a few deer hunters during a late archery elk season ( Any Buck), depending on which one I drew,
Either way, I will be happy to get a legal buck, no matter what size, and it will be a quality experience for me.
Garrett Grubbs of East Wenatchee bagged this 8x7 (counting eye guards) in the Swakane on a permit.
Post by: buckreaper on June 18, 2010, 11:44:31 PM
Post by: halflife65 on June 18, 2010, 11:49:26 PM
Halflife 65,
Didnt really just pull the name out of the hat.I did apply because of the reputation of the unit.I do have a little knowledge of it.Not a lot though.
I think maybe I just didnt realize the full potential of that unit during that time frame.
I don't have anything against you - just taken a little aback with the way that you phrased your response to drawing that tag. It seemed like you had just won the lottery and then decided to not take it seriously. Anyway, by your comments since your original, obviously you do take it seriously, so good luck and I hope I see a picture of your buck in November/December. There can be some REALLY good bucks in that unit.
Post by: bowhunterforever on June 19, 2010, 01:10:44 AM
Congrats on the tag, and yes it is special!!! You will have a great hunt. There is a reason why many put in for it. Good luck :tup:Have fun and kill a big one :drool: Thats all that matters :tup:
Post by: SI Eagle on June 19, 2010, 07:47:26 AM
Post by: huntnnw on June 20, 2010, 11:11:21 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 20, 2010, 11:13:54 PM
(I'm thinking of rifle hunts. Maybe you are talking archery???)
Post by: halflife65 on June 21, 2010, 06:09:24 AM
this states so called trophy areas are a joke!! waste of my time, I can go hunt out of state in otc areas with a more realistic chance at getting a trophy buck
Really? I'm glad you think that all of them are a joke. Keep putting in for out of state and don't put in for this state. That's perfect.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 21, 2010, 06:24:50 AM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on June 21, 2010, 06:46:34 AM
What states have otc hunts for mule deer that are better than our special permit hunts? Idaho is the only state I know of with over the counter mule deer hunts. Are there others? I know Idaho's general seasons are not that good anymore, and definitely not better than our late permit hunts for mule deer.
(I'm thinking of rifle hunts. Maybe you are talking archery???)
Wyoming is OTC for residents and there are a ton of hunts that can be had as second choices in Colorado that are better than what we have in Washington. Utah has some good hunts too that are 100% draw.
Post by: WSU on June 21, 2010, 08:58:49 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on June 21, 2010, 09:25:43 AM