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Title: Moose special permit
Post by: Black Ghost on June 20, 2010, 10:28:25 PM
You can see the results after you answer the poll question.  I am just curious, how heavy the bonus points totals are toward the upper end for moose oil tag. 
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: lokidog on June 20, 2010, 10:51:31 PM
10 points, missed one year.
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Post by: 6x6in6 on June 20, 2010, 10:53:22 PM
13
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 20, 2010, 10:56:31 PM
5 for me
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Post by: d_wilson on June 20, 2010, 10:58:02 PM
14 after this years draw
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Post by: bobcat on June 20, 2010, 11:02:04 PM
I also missed one year, I have 14.
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Post by: bowhunterforever on June 20, 2010, 11:15:10 PM
7
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Post by: fc2038 on June 21, 2010, 01:56:47 AM
13 here for both antlerless and any moose. If all holds up I will have an antlerless MOOSE tag this year. I just have to wait and see.......... tic toc tic toc
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Post by: Elkstuffer on June 21, 2010, 09:19:43 AM
13
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Post by: coachcw on June 21, 2010, 09:21:08 AM
Max point without bonus .13-14 ? , Stuffer you should just guide for sheep .
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Post by: halflife65 on June 21, 2010, 09:35:41 AM
I actually drew it a couple of years ago.  I had 12 or 13 points.
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Post by: MuleySniper on June 21, 2010, 09:40:05 AM
I'll be rollin in next year with 14.
MS
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Post by: benhuntin on June 21, 2010, 09:44:09 AM
6 for me, got a late start
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Post by: GoldTip on June 21, 2010, 09:49:17 AM
I drew last year, had 9 points going into the applications, +1 for last years app when I drew.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Falcon on June 21, 2010, 10:24:28 AM
13 this year.

Just a matter of time !
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: steeleywhopper on June 21, 2010, 10:39:59 AM
My Gramps pulled a Mt.Spokane cow moose tag with 15 points this year.  Gonna have to start studying maps and talking to the Bio. over there.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Moose Eyes on June 21, 2010, 11:11:13 AM
I drew a Three Forks any moose tag this year with 11 points.  Even with 11 points I really beat the odds.
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Post by: Ridgerunner on June 21, 2010, 11:14:45 AM
draw hangman with 10 two years ago, keep applying the hunt is worth it.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: NWBREW on June 21, 2010, 11:21:03 AM
I drew a Three Forks any moose tag this year with 11 points.  Even with 11 points I really beat the odds.



Moose Eyes....I have a hunting cabin in that unit and know it pretty well. Have seen some pretty nice bulls there as well (cows too.). Let me know if I can help point you in a direction.   Devin   (NWBREW)
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: PAW66 on June 21, 2010, 11:21:47 AM
14 points for

Any Moose
Antlerless Moose
Moose 65 and Over
Moose Disabled

Odds have to be getting better   :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Moose Eyes on June 21, 2010, 11:54:01 AM
I drew a Three Forks any moose tag this year with 11 points.  Even with 11 points I really beat the odds.



Moose Eyes....I have a hunting cabin in that unit and know it pretty well. Have seen some pretty nice bulls there as well (cows too.). Let me know if I can help point you in a direction.   Devin   (NWBREW)

Message sent.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Black Ghost on June 21, 2010, 06:39:49 PM
Wow, about 20% have 13 plus points ouch!!!!  I think I have 6?
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: seth30 on June 21, 2010, 06:41:39 PM
mine doesnt even show up nor the points :dunno: :dunno:
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 23, 2010, 12:16:12 AM
6 for me, got a late start

Same here.  Damn Army... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Buckblaster on June 23, 2010, 11:50:21 AM
I have 15 points but so do alot of other people.  Its kind of like algebra that just cancels each other out when you cross the equal sign. 
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 23, 2010, 12:04:05 PM
Ohh kind of like you can do it on one side as long as you do it on the other side?
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Buckblaster on June 23, 2010, 03:18:09 PM
Ya, like that.  I put in an application with 15 points and someone else puts in an application with 15 points and we cancel each other out and some guy with 6 points ends up getting a tag.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Gringo31 on June 23, 2010, 06:16:55 PM
So...some quick math.

If there are 1000 people that put in for one tag.  If everyone that puts in averages 5 points each, add the "multiplier"

25 X 1000 is 25,000 names in the hat.  If you have 10 points, that puts your name in the hat 100 times of the 25,000 total.

That gives you a 1 in 250 chance in getting drawn with 10 points?

If I did my math right, why do people freak out when they have 15 points and haven't been drawn yet?
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: h2ofowlr on June 23, 2010, 11:02:57 PM
8 points.  Nothing yet.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: NWBREW on June 24, 2010, 01:55:52 AM
  why do people freak out when they have 15 points and haven't been drawn yet?



I think you just answered your own question.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Buckblaster on June 24, 2010, 07:01:16 AM
This point system guarantees nothing.  Even with max points, you're still lucky to draw.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Squatch on June 27, 2010, 09:09:49 AM
Nine point for me.  Hopefully it happens soon! :drool:
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: PA BEN on June 27, 2010, 10:32:40 AM
I drew 49 in '08 w/10 points.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: norsepete on June 27, 2010, 08:00:31 PM
I had 15, drew the selkirk
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: coachcw on June 27, 2010, 09:42:19 PM
I'm due soon 13
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: NWBREW on June 27, 2010, 10:16:17 PM
This point system guarantees nothing.  Even with max points, you're still lucky to draw.




My thoughts exactly..............but I'll still keep trying till I get drawn........or die.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 27, 2010, 10:38:42 PM
I could hear WDFW snickering and rubbing their hands together when they took my money with 6 points... :(
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Black Ghost on June 30, 2010, 09:53:02 PM
These results are interesting, the results appear to be pretty split all the way across.   
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Magnum_Willys on June 30, 2010, 10:14:56 PM
Even with 20 years worth of points I figure our odds are less than 25:1 in any given year.  Like they said, you just gotta get lucky.   
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 30, 2010, 10:53:42 PM
So...some quick math.

If there are 1000 people that put in for one tag.  If everyone that puts in averages 5 points each, add the "multiplier"

25 X 1000 is 25,000 names in the hat.  If you have 10 points, that puts your name in the hat 100 times of the 25,000 total.

That gives you a 1 in 250 chance in getting drawn with 10 points?

If I did my math right, why do people freak out when they have 15 points and haven't been drawn yet?

For moose, there are 78 bull permits instead of one, and more like 50,000 total applications instead of 1,000.  Everyone gets four choices, so divide the 50,000 by 4 and you wind up with 12,500 hunters for 78 permits.  So 25 x 12,500 = 312,500 total numbers in the hat.  78 tags, so for each tag there's approximately 4,000 names in the hat.  You have 100 numbers with your 10 points, so your odds should be around 1:40.   Someone with 15 points (225 chances in hat) should be around 1:17.  Add in their 15 points for sheep and goat, and someone with 15 points for each should be drawing around 1:10 blended odds each year for all three species.  Definitely no guarantees there, but there's still gonna be some serious disappointment each year when they don't draw.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: cohoho on June 30, 2010, 10:54:52 PM
I could hear WDFW snickering and rubbing their hands together when they took my money with 6 points... :(

Golly- they must still be laughing at my 3... :chuckle:  
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: PA BEN on July 01, 2010, 05:42:42 AM
In '08 there were 26 Bull tags in the 49 unit. 14,000 applied that year for those 26 tags. I don't know where they came up w/that number because of the 4 choices. I know more then 14,000 applied for moose tags. Was this number from there first choice? BTW, 49 was my first choice that year.
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 01, 2010, 05:48:58 AM
And you drew it?
Title: Re: Moose special permit
Post by: bobcat on July 01, 2010, 08:04:42 AM
It means 14,000 people had 49 Degrees North as one of their four choices.
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