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Title: Sapphire Hawk
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 22, 2010, 05:50:55 PM: Well I have wanted one for awhile now since reading everyones comments on this bow (expecially Bone). So I emailed the bowyer (hornseeker) about getting one made, unfortunately he could not do it at this time. So off I went searching the internet and finally after a few months of keeping my eye out on stickbow and tradgang.... one came up for sale. I bought it immediately and it is now mine! Now those of you who know me... you all know I have (in the words of Matt) gone crazy on buying bows... well #14 trad bow is now in the house. WIth the #15 coming soon from Curt Brisky .... I have to say I am extremely happy with the Hawk, 62" and 52@28, so with my DL of 30 it is around 58#'s. I can tell you it is without a doubt one of the smoothest and quietest bows I have had the pleasure of shooting. I have yet to shoot it through a chrono, but I think it is as fast as my kabekona LB.... which was 204 feet/sec with a 400 Gr arrow. Of course it still is a bit behind the OL Adcock ACS CX which was clocked at 223 F/Sec with a 500GR arrow of course that is with me pulling 65#'s. Wasn't sure about getting a TD, but it is light and a very good looking bow! Big thanks to the bowyer.
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 22, 2010, 05:54:15 PM: pic
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 22, 2010, 05:55:21 PM: another
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Post by: PacificNWhunter on June 22, 2010, 09:34:13 PM: Great looking bow!
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Post by: boneaddict on June 22, 2010, 09:39:05 PM: SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still owe the bowyer some new pics of mine.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 22, 2010, 09:43:51 PM: looks very nice
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Post by: Bearhunter on June 22, 2010, 09:51:08 PM: Beautiful!! Did you know Curt Brisky puts on a bow building class and you can build your own. I am going to do it some day when I have the time, I work with curt at BP.
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 23, 2010, 07:48:12 AM: Yep, I plan on taking that class from Curt one of these days. I have had the opportunity to shoot with Curt, great guy.
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Post by: Machias on June 23, 2010, 08:27:26 AM: Sweet looking bow, I have a new one almost finished, can't wait to get it. It's coming with an extra set of limbs.
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 23, 2010, 11:31:32 AM: and its getting closer all the time Fred... I am very embarrassed on how long it has taken.. :(.it just seems that Life keeps happening!!!) Lets say 2 weeks man.... ;)

NWW...I'm glad you like the bow. Let me know when you chrono it. My bows have been tested side by side with ACS's several times and have been withing a foot or two, up and down.. . ;)

What grain arrow will you be shooting out of it? Are you sure you draw 30? That is going to smoke.... how heavy was the ACS bow when you got 223?

Boneaddict above is shooting a 550 or so arrow at about 220-225fps... but he draws another 1 1/2 inches too!!!

Thanks! Wish I had more time to make these and get them in guys hands.
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 23, 2010, 01:19:26 PM: Hey..sorry for the horrible white, fairly sloppy writing on that bow.....if you ever get a wild hair...send the riser back to me and I'll redo that writing and refinish it for free... (maybe someday when it needs it huh??)
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 23, 2010, 02:19:41 PM: Ernie,
Not sure I will ever let it get away from me long enoguh to get you to do that! Maybe when I get another I might but it looks good to me. The ACS chrono'd that speed with a 500 graing arrow and I was pulling right at 65#'s. I will chrono it this weekend if the shop has it set up when I go shoot there.
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Post by: Machias on June 23, 2010, 09:35:53 PM: Quote from: Hornseeker on June 23, 2010, 11:31:32 AM
and its getting closer all the time Fred... I am very embarrassed on how long it has taken.. :(.it just seems that Life keeps happening!!!) Lets say 2 weeks man.... ;)

NWW...I'm glad you like the bow. Let me know when you chrono it. My bows have been tested side by side with ACS's several times and have been withing a foot or two, up and down.. . ;)

What grain arrow will you be shooting out of it? Are you sure you draw 30? That is going to smoke.... how heavy was the ACS bow when you got 223?

Boneaddict above is shooting a 550 or so arrow at about 220-225fps... but he draws another 1 1/2 inches too!!!

Thanks! Wish I had more time to make these and get them in guys hands.

No need to be worried Ernie, I'm a patient man, it's WELL worth the wait. 2 weeks would be awesome. Thanks!
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 24, 2010, 06:21:47 AM: Quote
No need to be worried Ernie, I'm a patient man

Thanks...

NWW, look forward to what you get out of it.
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Post by: Ray on June 24, 2010, 07:00:26 AM: Definitely a good investment. I like mine. Fast shooter, smooth draw. I like the character of that one.
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Post by: Matt on June 24, 2010, 07:07:51 AM: What NWW has failed to mention is that he has aquired 15 bows in less than a year. :yike: Ren step away from the computer. :P
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 24, 2010, 02:13:53 PM: Yep 15 and counting. Its Don's fault... he keeps showing me bows I just can't live without. :yike: Ernie also just gave me 2 others to look at that every bow junkie should have.... a bigfoot wookie and a whippenstic might be coming my way as a retirement gift to myself.... ;) Problem is you just can't shoot them all at once.
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 24, 2010, 03:50:10 PM: NWW,

Shoot them all man... shoot them a bunch... in time...you will see that there are a few standouts...and if you are open minded, you may realize they are not the standouts that everyone told you about. However, you will also learn that just about anyone of them will get the job done for you! It depends on what you really want. There are many attributes a traditional bow can posess...very few have "all of them"...

The Big Foot Bow is a "sasquatch"...T/D preferably... If you want a sweet and fast bow...it is it, along with the whippenstic longbow or recurve (which I think is called a Hell fire)...

After I get Freds bow all put together, I'll get this 64" incher all trimmed up and maybe you can give it a go... 64" is better for you anyway! :tung:
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 24, 2010, 06:12:31 PM: Looking forward to the 64"er! Good advice and I will keep shooting them all.
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Post by: boneaddict on June 24, 2010, 06:22:49 PM: One of these days I need a little bow rehab Ernie. Its taken a beatin'.
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 25, 2010, 06:22:15 AM: Really? The new one?

Send it anytime Doug..... I am going to have to put together another bow or two for the girls huh....
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Post by: whacker1 on June 25, 2010, 06:26:58 AM: What do all these bows cost? I am just looking for a range - maybe a high and a low?
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 25, 2010, 08:14:22 AM: Quote from: whacker1 on June 25, 2010, 06:26:58 AM
What do all these bows cost? I am just looking for a range - maybe a high and a low?

Really depends on the bow. You can spend from $100 for a cheap recurve up to and probably more than $1200 for a custom longbow or recurve. Go to tradgang and check out the classifieds there, or stickbow.com that will give you an idea on used bows.
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Post by: whacker1 on June 25, 2010, 08:17:09 AM: thank you
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Post by: boneaddict on June 25, 2010, 08:41:09 AM: Yep, they are growing Ernie.
No, the original one. The new one looks good as new, coarse I didn't hunt with it last season. ;) This is its inaguaral year. Looking forward to some field pics.

The original is still fine, just after a couple hard years in the bush including Alaska and NM, it needs a facelift. I should get it to you so I can have it as a backup if I need it. Do you have time for it. I know you are busy.
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 25, 2010, 08:54:01 AM: I can fit in a refinish pretty easily.....
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Post by: boneaddict on June 25, 2010, 08:55:29 AM: COOL! Thanks!
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Post by: boneaddict on June 25, 2010, 08:56:03 AM: I wonder how many arrows have gone through that thing.
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 27, 2010, 07:23:52 PM: Man that Sapphire is just tough to get used to.... ;) Took it out this weekend after shooting it for 3 days... shot in the WSAA Outdoor State Championship.... Not only did I win it (Trad) but I beat my personal best scores in the Field and Hunter rounds, tied my best in the animal round... Ladies and Gentlemen I think this bow is a shooter. :P
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Post by: Ray on June 27, 2010, 07:31:22 PM: I guess you're going to have to add that one to your long list of bows in the signature line. I was out shooting mine today at my friend's place. He was impressed.
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Post by: Machias on June 27, 2010, 08:15:51 PM: Quote from: NWWABOWHNTR on June 27, 2010, 07:23:52 PM
Man that Sapphire is just tough to get used to.... ;) Took it out this weekend after shooting it for 3 days... shot in the WSAA Outdoor State Championship.... Not only did I win it (Trad) but I beat my personal best scores in the Field and Hunter rounds, tied my best in the animal round... Ladies and Gentlemen I think this bow is a shooter. :P

Sweet congrats!
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 28, 2010, 06:51:39 AM: I see you only have 8 bows listed in your line, but you have 14 or 15... tell us what else you have?

And congrats! I'm glad it is a shooter for you. When I finished that bow I grabbed some random arrows and walked out the door and was absolutely STACKING them together in the target. That bow is just a shooter... period... I mean, every bow I build is a shooter, but THAT bow just made it easier than ever....

Freds ought to be similar! By the way Fred, I broke my toe Friday night and did not spend an F'ing minute in the shop this weekend... I know...excuses, excuses.... :dunno:
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Post by: Machias on June 28, 2010, 07:24:32 AM: Ouch, stop kicking things! Better heal up soon, elk season ain't so far away!!

P.S. That last line is meant so you can elk hunt, not because I want my bow any quicker... :P Needed to clairify that!!
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 28, 2010, 01:10:32 PM: I took a 70 yard ride on my KDX with my tevas on and made a bad call on getting a little air at a ditch... ugly...
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Post by: Machias on June 28, 2010, 01:28:26 PM: Ouch :o
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 28, 2010, 03:09:48 PM: Well I have a bunch.

LONGBOWS:
Sapphire Hawk :P
OL Adcock ACS CX 1 piece
Whisperstik Voodoo x 2
Hill Big 5
Mad Dog Mutt
Kabekona river x 2
Chapparal Kaibob x 2
Sentman
Brisky Custon Osage and bamboo (on the way)

Recurves:
WHisperstik Mojostik x 2
Bighorn Custom TD
Dan Dow
Bear Kodiak

Hopefully a 64" Sapphire ?
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 29, 2010, 08:50:25 AM: Dang...you do have a bunch!

You dont have any of the Big Guys though! (besides the ACS)...

What about a Silvertip? Robertson? Toelke? Centaur? Black Widow?

You have a Long Ways to go my friend!!!

I"ll keep you posted on the 64"er... Limping around now and will get Freds bow done asap... have a few more to get done, then I can get to finishing up that 64... Its a nice bow too....and I'd like to keep it :drool: But I also need a new camera!!!
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 29, 2010, 12:30:36 PM: I have been eyeing the Centaur double carbon's.... and Toelke whips... along with a few others. Currently working with Kirk Lavender on a TD Sasquatch.... There are way too many nice bows out there!
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Post by: Ray on June 29, 2010, 01:04:50 PM: Toelke makes a great bow! Man I wish I had one of those too.
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Post by: Hornseeker on June 29, 2010, 01:18:06 PM: You wont be sorry getting ahold of the sasquatch... that is one fantastic bow. Faster than Greased lightning, smooth drawing and easy pointing.... oh...and top notch craftsmanship too!!

I really like Dan's bows as well... and I'll tell ya what, Longbow or Recurve either one, you cannot go wrong with a Schafer Silvertip.....
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on June 29, 2010, 01:26:19 PM: Ernie... you trying to get me divorced now aren't you.... ;) I have seen the Silvertips.. and if they shoot as good as they look they are an awesome bow. Actually trying to sell a couple I don't shoot right now and re-invest into some I want to try.
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Post by: Ray on June 29, 2010, 01:27:41 PM: I think I'm going with a Bezaleel Bobcat as my next purchase. Not sure when. I heard those Silvertips are good but never shot one.