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Title: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on March 01, 2008, 06:46:27 PM: We've had several threads that have discussed muley/whitey crosses. Now that I figured out how to post pics, thought I'd post some muley racks that may have some whitey in them. The first three bucks I took on the same hill in 2001, 2002 and 2003. I know it's impossible to tell just from the rack, but thought it was interesting that these bucks came from the same area, which happens to have a lot of whiteys running around, and they all have inline racks.

The fourth buck came from the Okanogan in 2005...just figured I'd take a pic of it as well to post. The last pic shows them side by side for reference.
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: PacificNWhunter on March 01, 2008, 09:21:08 PM: First off congrats on some nice bucks! They do look like they have some whitetail influence in their shape. I have hunted a few spots over here on the west side for blacktails and have noticed horns that have that type of influence too, mostly 3 pointers I have never seen a 4 point like that. I think it may have something to do with genetic because as far as I know there are not any whitetails near the WA coast. It will be interesting to see what everyone thinks! Thanks for posting, great pic's.
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: Red Dawg on March 01, 2008, 10:28:36 PM: congrats on your bucks. I have also seen a few antler configurations like that also. Something that I learned not to long ago may or may not surprise you, according to boone and crockett's show on the outdoor channel mule deer are an ancient crossing between a blacktail buck and an whitetail doe. I would assume that it probably happened somewhere on the west coast. I dont know if any of this info is relevant but I thought I would bring it up anyway.
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: archery288 on March 02, 2008, 07:18:55 PM: nice bucks for sure. I dunno what to think or tell ya about a cross between the two... I have seen a lot of bucks that are 3 pointers that look like that. I think its just a natural progression for the antlers to form like that when a 3rd point is added?? may be all wrong but it seems like it.
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: saylean on March 03, 2008, 12:56:02 AM: I like the 2nd to last pic from the bottom...cool lookin racks. ;) Thanks for posting
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 03, 2008, 06:16:36 AM: Yea some of those racks are a little different!! Thanks for posting them. See you are getting your dog trained in shed hunting :chuckle:
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: boneaddict on March 03, 2008, 06:23:02 AM: Nice three points. It would be hard to say about whitetail influence. COuld just be a natural progression and these maybe similiar as they are out of the same mulie gene pool. That last buck is cool.
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: Wea300mag on March 03, 2008, 05:40:28 PM: This one made me do a double take.

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10352/another_three.jpg)

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10352/another_three1.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: boneaddict on March 03, 2008, 06:07:09 PM: Should have culled him from the herd. ;)
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: Red Dawg on March 03, 2008, 06:27:10 PM: kill em :hunter:
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: Wea300mag on March 03, 2008, 08:50:54 PM: He would have looked good in my freezer but at the time. . . . I couldn't pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: M_ray on March 03, 2008, 09:07:14 PM: Wea300mag that looks like a management buck ... huh, unless you have the Raffle tag! ;)
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: archery288 on March 03, 2008, 09:09:14 PM: haha yeah that one needs to be taken out of the gene pool before he messes up the genetics and the 3rd points! haha :chuckle:
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on March 04, 2008, 10:00:18 PM: Yeah, that guy would fit nicely in my modern season collection, but it's not quite up to snuff for the raffle tag!

I didn't think too much about the potential whitey genetics with those bucks until I shot the 3rd one, the 4x4 with eyeguards. Like 300's pic, there are quite a few inline 3x3 muleys around, but haven't seen many inline 4x4s. Then I got to looking at them together, and the similar rack shapes, sizes, etc., and started thinking.

BTW, after I took that third one I stopped hunting in the palouse. There are an unbelievable number of deer over there, but I was sick and tired about worrying about property lines all the time and hoping/waiting for a buck to cross the right fence. Really took a lot of fun out of it. And since I never saw anything much bigger than that third buck, I decided to head back to the bigger buck units. Guess I'd rather eat tag soup some years but hunt fence-free land and have the chance at bigger bucks.
Title: Re: Whitey/muley racks?
Post by: boneaddict on March 04, 2008, 10:04:28 PM: I love the frame of your 05 buck. He is awesome. Just an older age class buck. He would make a good mount.