Post by: huntlakewood on June 29, 2010, 09:17:29 PM
I tried to email the Game department and have not heard yet ( been over two weeks)
So now I ask you.
If it is bow season and I am with a bow hunter can I carry my riffle or pistol?
I have been told both that I am not supposed to be near a bow hunter when I am carring my rifle.
I have also been told that I can cause it is legal for me to hunt bear during that time.
I do not know why I can't cause it is legal for me to hunt bear during that time period and any one can tell the difference if animal has shot by a bow or a riffle.
Post by: Lowedog on June 29, 2010, 09:32:46 PM
Post by: saylean on June 29, 2010, 09:35:43 PM
Post by: Machias on June 29, 2010, 09:37:18 PM
Also, your buddy can legally carry a pistol while hunting archery...provided he meets the age requirements.
What age requirement would that be?
Post by: fishermanjoe on June 29, 2010, 09:57:12 PM
Also, your buddy can legally carry a pistol while hunting archery...provided he meets the age requirements.
What age requirement would that be?
legal age for pistol possesion without supervision is 21+. and i might be mistaken but i think you also have to have a CWP to carry while bow hunting.
Post by: Machias on June 29, 2010, 10:00:40 PM
Post by: fishermanjoe on June 29, 2010, 10:09:15 PM
The CWP requirement was dropped.
Good to know.
Post by: saylean on June 29, 2010, 10:14:01 PM
The CWP requirement was dropped.
Good to know.
It was dropped as of this coming season. Last year you had to have it to carry openly while hunting...
i know i know...doesnt make sense. :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: dougedoug on June 29, 2010, 10:29:51 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on June 29, 2010, 11:36:08 PM
Post by: huntlakewood on June 30, 2010, 05:42:53 AM
Post by: bigtex on June 30, 2010, 08:10:01 AM
As far as I know, you can hunt bear with a rifle during archery deer season every if you have an archery deer tag. They cannot keep you from hunting a bear with a rifle simply because you bought an archery deer tag. I know i've hunted bears plenty of times in September with a rifle while holding an archery deer tag and have never been hassled for it before. It is definitely a grey area but they can tell if you shot it with a rifle or a bow.
:yeah:
Just remember you can't shoot a cougar with a rifle till sometime in October (the exact date depends on the area). Until last year you could hunt cougar all season long with any weapon, but they changed that and made specific speasons for each weapons and a lot of people got in trouble for it because they didn't know of the new regulation.
Post by: brew on June 30, 2010, 08:33:01 AM
Post by: bigtex on June 30, 2010, 08:37:43 AM
page # 70 of the hunting regs state "it is unlawful for any person to carry or have in his possession any firearm while in the field archery hunting, during an archery season specified for that area, except for modern handguns carried for personal protection"....decipher that one :chuckle: I teach hunter education and part of the class we have Wildlife Officers in to talk to the students and each time they will tell you that Washington's hunting/fishing regulations are so complicated and subject to interpretation that they themselves argue about what is "legal" and what isn't
That is very true however, the person carrying the rifle is not archery hunting. This law would be for a scenario if I am a bow hunter and in one hand I am carrying a bow and the other I got my rifle. Also, remember that bear seasons (which are open for all weapons, except in some areas) overlap with archery and muzzleloader deer/elk seasons.
Post by: brew on June 30, 2010, 08:49:25 AM
OK if this has been asked before sorry but need to know."if it is bow season and I am a bow hunter can I carry my rifle or pistol" the author really doesn't make the distinction if they are hunting bear or other big game, just asks if it is legal because they can hunt bear at that time....obviously if you're bear hunting you can carry a bow and rifle but if you are bowhunting other big game during a specified bow area/season you can only carry a handgun for personal protection
I tried to email the Game department and have not heard yet ( been over two weeks)
So now I ask you.
If it is bow season and I am with a bow hunter can I carry my riffle or pistol?
I have been told both that I am not supposed to be near a bow hunter when I am carring my rifle.
I have also been told that I can cause it is legal for me to hunt bear during that time.
I do not know why I can't cause it is legal for me to hunt bear during that time period and any one can tell the difference if animal has shot by a bow or a riffle.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on June 30, 2010, 11:54:30 AM
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page # 70 of the hunting regs state "it is unlawful for any person to carry or have in his possession any firearm while in the field archery hunting, during an archery season specified for that area, except for modern handguns carried for personal protection"....It depends on the officer, but it seems pretty clear, If you have a rifle in your hand during Archery season, and an archery tag in your pocket, you probably will be cited.
If you do not, then you should be O,k., it does not matter what the other guy is doing,
A common misconception about tags is that they are "harvest tags", whereas the WDFW calls them "Transport Tags", meaning that you must have one IN YOUR POSSESSION, to be "hunting"
As long as you have the appropriate tag and licence for the weapon/season. you are legal.
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License Required:I know a guy that got cited for hunting in a closed area because he had an elk tag in his pocket, and broadheads in his quiver while "grouse hunting" on the wrong side of the creek at Taneum.
A valid big game hunting license, which
includes black bear as a species option.
Tag Information:
One black bear transport tag/license is
included with a big game license that has
black bear as a species option. A second
black bear transport tag/license must be
purchased to take a second bear. Hunters
may purchase a maximum of two black bear
transport tag/licenses.
Bag Limit:
Two black bear during the hunting season,
only one of which may be taken in Eastern
Washington.
Hunting Method:
Hunters may use any lawful big game
modern firearm, archery, or muzzleloader
equipment for hunting black bear.
As long as you do not carry an archery deer/elk tag you should be O.K.
Post by: huntlakewood on June 30, 2010, 12:00:25 PM
exactly true however I put that in for reference to one of the original questions ofOK if this has been asked before sorry but need to know."if it is bow season and I am a bow hunter can I carry my rifle or pistol" the author really doesn't make the distinction if they are hunting bear or other big game, just asks if it is legal because they can hunt bear at that time....obviously if you're bear hunting you can carry a bow and rifle but if you are bowhunting other big game during a specified bow area/season you can only carry a handgun for personal protection
I tried to email the Game department and have not heard yet ( been over two weeks)
So now I ask you.
If it is bow season and I am with a bow hunter can I carry my riffle or pistol?
I have been told both that I am not supposed to be near a bow hunter when I am carring my rifle.
I have also been told that I can cause it is legal for me to hunt bear during that time.
I do not know why I can't cause it is legal for me to hunt bear during that time period and any one can tell the difference if animal has shot by a bow or a riffle.
OK I should clarify that I am not a bow hunter I was just wondering if I could be with a bow hunter when I am carring my riffle or pistol while bear hunting. I just did not want to cause any trouble for me or my friend if there is any law that I did not read.
I was just thinking of going out and helping out while he hunts and it is going to be bear season so instead of staying at camp and sit on my thumbs I would do a little Bear hunting. I just don't want to be walking up the road with him or be standing over looking a clear cut and be breaking the law.
I was told once by anther hunter that I could not cause who would say that I would not shoot the animal for a bow hunter. That did not make since cause like I said above anyone can tell the difference between a bullet hole and an arrow.
Post by: bigtex on June 30, 2010, 12:04:09 PM
exactly true however I put that in for reference to one of the original questions ofOK if this has been asked before sorry but need to know."if it is bow season and I am a bow hunter can I carry my rifle or pistol" the author really doesn't make the distinction if they are hunting bear or other big game, just asks if it is legal because they can hunt bear at that time....obviously if you're bear hunting you can carry a bow and rifle but if you are bowhunting other big game during a specified bow area/season you can only carry a handgun for personal protection
I tried to email the Game department and have not heard yet ( been over two weeks)
So now I ask you.
If it is bow season and I am with a bow hunter can I carry my riffle or pistol?
I have been told both that I am not supposed to be near a bow hunter when I am carring my rifle.
I have also been told that I can cause it is legal for me to hunt bear during that time.
I do not know why I can't cause it is legal for me to hunt bear during that time period and any one can tell the difference if animal has shot by a bow or a riffle.
OK I should clarify that I am not a bow hunter I was just wondering if I could be with a bow hunter when I am carring my riffle or pistol while bear hunting. I just did not want to cause any trouble for me or my friend if there is any law that I did not read.
I was just thinking of going out and helping out while he hunts and it is going to be bear season so instead of staying at camp and sit on my thumbs I would do a little Bear hunting. I just don't want to be walking up the road with him or be standing over looking a clear cut and be breaking the law.
I was told once by anther hunter that I could not cause who would say that I would not shoot the animal for a bow hunter. That did not make since cause like I said above anyone can tell the difference between a bullet hole and an arrow.
Your fine. Your hunting with a rifle, your buddy with a bow. As long as the season you are hunting is open for both you will be fine.
Post by: nocklehead on June 30, 2010, 03:02:45 PM
interesting about archers being able to carry a sidearm, I read in the regs that a concealed pistol license is required, open carry or not, could someone direct me to where it says otherwise?
Post by: bigtex on June 30, 2010, 03:03:58 PM
I dont think it would be legal to do any elk or deer calls or rattling while carrying your rifle during archery only...but you could help him pack it out all you want ! :chuckle:
interesting about archers being able to carry a sidearm, I read in the regs that a concealed pistol license is required, open carry or not, could someone direct me to where it says otherwise?
Page 70. It is in red under the archery section
Post by: Machias on June 30, 2010, 03:17:51 PM
I dont think it would be legal to do any elk or deer calls or rattling while carrying your rifle during archery only...but you could help him pack it out all you want ! :chuckle:
interesting about archers being able to carry a sidearm, I read in the regs that a concealed pistol license is required, open carry or not, could someone direct me to where it says otherwise?
Ah you didn't read that in the regs this year, they removed the requirement, you can carry open or concealed without a CPL while engaged in a lawful outdoor activity.
Post by: Bscman on June 30, 2010, 04:42:20 PM
It was regarding the idea that my father was rifle hunting for bear while I was archery hunting for deer--but we were both planning to hunt the same areas, and use the same rig to get there.
The long and short of it was that the law itself is so open for interpretation it would depend entirely on the officer that made the stop. In his eyes, it WOULD be a problem since..theoretically...I'd be in the truck and potentially in "immediate control/possession" of the rifle during archery deer season.
That being said...
I've taken a rifle bear hunting many times during the early archery deer hunt--I just usually leave my archery deer tag at home or in the truck while I'm out. The rules are definitely vague and open for interpretation...may as well do everything in your power to make your intentions as clear as possible.
:twocents:
Post by: gasman on June 30, 2010, 06:36:56 PM
Yes it will be up to interpretation of the law and the discreation of the officer at the time. We came apon this many years ago when i first started bow hunting, and Jason would go with me to the area to hunt bears as i hunted deer. We were told that just the two of us being in the vehicle together would be trouble, well for me if i was archery hunting.
Hey Jay, leave the riffle at home and get proficient with that 44mag of yours, but if you don't get it fixed in time, I will hand you mine to use ;)
Post by: huntlakewood on July 01, 2010, 09:48:20 AM
This has been a question that has been asked many times and no one has given a definite answer.
Yes it will be up to interpretation of the law and the discreation of the officer at the time. We came apon this many years ago when i first started bow hunting, and Jason would go with me to the area to hunt bears as i hunted deer. We were told that just the two of us being in the vehicle together would be trouble, well for me if i was archery hunting.
Hey Jay, leave the riffle at home and get proficient with that 44mag of yours, but if you don't get it fixed in time, I will hand you mine to use ;)
Like I said Sorry if this has been posted before figured this would be a good place to get info. Hell some of the people on here probably know more out the laws then the Gamies do.
Gasman this will just put a fire under my a** to send it in and get it fixed. If I do go I would be taking both the 270 and my 44 ( or yours since you offered). Never had bear before I would like to get one :cue:
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