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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: MasterTracker on March 05, 2008, 12:44:51 AM

Title: You Vote wich cartridge is better.
Post by: MasterTracker on March 05, 2008, 12:44:51 AM: So which one do you like and why?
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Post by: boneaddict on March 05, 2008, 01:16:20 AM: 30-06 Been around awhile and has killed a few critters. ;)
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Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 05, 2008, 05:40:21 AM: Never have caught on to that metric stuff :chuckle: :dunno:
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Post by: Slenk on March 05, 2008, 06:15:39 AM: I voted 30-06 just because I have never caught the magnum bug .
Killed a lot of game with .270 though I just built a .338-06.
Slenk
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Post by: archery288 on March 05, 2008, 06:35:18 AM: well I have one in each caliber and I would choose my 30-06 over the 7mm because there is more diversity in bullet weights, and I believe that the -06 has more nock down power (per the load) and can be loaded just as hot as my 7mm. I have heard a lot of people that lost game with the 7mm because you can load it so hott and fast and the bullet just doesn't pack the retention behind it to nock emm over as it is smaller in diameter. I shot a 3 pt. blacktail at 112 yards with my 7mm and nocked it right off its feet and thought that was it! It was shakin and I watched it stop and thought that was it. I went and got my dad, waited about 30 min total, then we walked down to the buck and there was more blood on the ground than I had ever seen before! bullet hole right behind the front shoulder and honestly couldn't have been a better shot, poked the deer to make sure it was dead and it jumped to its feet and took off haulin' down through the timber... never could find it!! that was enough of the 7mm for me! :dunno:
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Post by: Ray on March 05, 2008, 06:38:39 AM: .30-06 Availability of ammunition, reloading parts can be found at many garage sales. Ammo will probably be cheaper for this cartridge/round.
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Post by: ICEMAN on March 05, 2008, 06:49:53 AM: Neither.
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Post by: boneaddict on March 05, 2008, 07:14:32 AM: Always going against the grain. ;)
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Post by: Skycruiser on March 05, 2008, 07:20:22 AM: Ballistically, it's a toss-up. But a century from now, the 30-06 will still be the most widely available hunting cartridge.
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Post by: GoldTip on March 05, 2008, 07:37:09 AM: I picked the 30-06, better diversity of bullets weights aqnd styles available. 30-06 shells are going to always be available on the shelf at any country store, and the 7mm rem mag has just never impressed me.
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Post by: Intruder on March 05, 2008, 08:29:47 AM: 06 all the way. Goldtip hit the major points. Although I do differ in my impression of the 7mag. I believe it is a fine cal too.
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Post by: Slider on March 05, 2008, 08:56:18 AM: Shoudn't the question be which cartridge is better? Hmmm any way NO comparison. 7mm Mag. ;) 30-06 is the jack of all trades and the master of none!!!
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Post by: Curly on March 05, 2008, 09:11:27 AM: Quote from: Slider on March 05, 2008, 08:56:18 AM
Shoudn't the question be which cartridge is better?

Yeah, from the title I thought it was going to be which is best a Nosler Partition, Swift A-Frame, Barnes TSX, .......etc.

But which cartridge is better is a good topic too. I voted for the 30-06, it is just a great cartridge. The 7mm mag is great too, but there are just way more loads for an -06 and a wider variety of bullet weights. Now if the question were a little more specific, then maybe my answer would be different; but when simply asking which is better I have to go with the old 30-06.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 05, 2008, 09:17:40 AM: Having both cartridges I had to vote 7mm just offset Curly!!
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Post by: BlackTail on March 05, 2008, 10:43:20 AM: I could use either one and be completely happy, but voted for the '06
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Post by: GoldTip on March 05, 2008, 11:33:33 AM: You know it's funny with the 7mm remington mag, I've watched my Dad put animals on the ground with that gun for as long as I can remember, now it's my brothers gun and before he stepped up to a 7mm Ultra mag, I've watched him make 250 yard head shots with it on antelope does with that 7mm rem. But ballistically on paper, there just isn't any reasion to develop an appreciation for it over most any caliber. It truly doesn't do much of any thing better than a 30-06, other than kick more. It doesn't in any way step up to compete with a 300 winny. I know it's just me, I've just never developed any true appreciation for the round.
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Post by: MuleySniper on March 05, 2008, 12:10:40 PM: Quote from: Iceman on March 05, 2008, 06:49:53 AM
Neither.

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Post by: dbllunger on March 05, 2008, 02:24:48 PM: Of those two 7mm because it does everything better for deer and elk. I assumed you meant cartridge not bullet. Bullet is the part that flies not sits in the gun.
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Post by: Rick on March 05, 2008, 05:04:45 PM: Its a toss up. There is NOTHING you can do with one,that you can't do with the other.

If I had to pick one,I'd pick the 7mm. Its shoots faster,flatter,and will penetrate more with equal bullet weights.

For those that are hung up on the "better" selection of bullets in .308,here is a list of .284 bullet weights from Midway. 100,110,115,120,130,140,145,150,154,156,160,162,168,175,180.

If you can't find a bullet weight from that list to do what you want with a 7mm,a 30-06 won't do it either.
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Post by: Rick on March 05, 2008, 05:10:29 PM: Quote from: archery288 on March 05, 2008, 06:35:18 AM
well I have one in each caliber and I would choose my 30-06 over the 7mm because there is more diversity in bullet weights, and I believe that the -06 has more nock down power (per the load) and can be loaded just as hot as my 7mm. I have heard a lot of people that lost game with the 7mm because you can load it so hott and fast and the bullet just doesn't pack the retention behind it to nock emm over as it is smaller in diameter. I shot a 3 pt. blacktail at 112 yards with my 7mm and nocked it right off its feet and thought that was it! It was shakin and I watched it stop and thought that was it. I went and got my dad, waited about 30 min total, then we walked down to the buck and there was more blood on the ground than I had ever seen before! bullet hole right behind the front shoulder and honestly couldn't have been a better shot, poked the deer to make sure it was dead and it jumped to its feet and took off haulin' down through the timber... never could find it!! that was enough of the 7mm for me! :dunno:

Its a funny thing about those Blacktails. They just shrug off a "perfect" shot from a 7mm,but are cut and wrapped when hit with a .308. :chuckle:
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Post by: Alchase on March 06, 2008, 12:17:32 PM: 7mm Mag, I am just a Magnum guy, LOL.
Honestly both are great.
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Post by: Bigshooter on March 07, 2008, 10:33:28 PM: Quote from: Slenk on March 05, 2008, 06:15:39 AM
I voted 30-06 just because I have never caught the magnum bug .
Killed a lot of game with .270 though I just built a .338-06.
Slenk

Slenk I built a .338-06 a few years back. All I shoot is the 210gr nosler partion. Have killed one bull and a couple deer with it, and i love it.