Post by: MasterTracker on March 06, 2008, 08:00:20 PM
I found "3" of them hunting in the Duvall, Sultan flats on some DNR land this year!
Post by: PolarBear on March 06, 2008, 08:21:11 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on March 06, 2008, 08:33:43 PM
Found pot farms in Capitol Forrest
:( Great, just what I want to do is stumble on a bunch of tweekers and pot farms.
Post by: MuleySniper on March 06, 2008, 08:35:11 PM
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Post by: Ridgerunner on March 06, 2008, 08:55:01 PM
Post by: Bscman on March 06, 2008, 09:35:30 PM
While some of 'em are pretty crafty and "mobile" labs are getting more common....some of these guys are just plain dumb. Like the few older gentleman from a few years ago that set up a pair of camp trailers under the Conway/Fir Island bridge--not 200yds from the fire department.
DUH.
Post by: Dman on March 06, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
Whats a tweaker camp? Thankfully I haven't run into anything like this in the woods.
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I hope for the tweaker's sake I don't run into them, :guns: :guns: :guns:
They'll be a hell of a lot more tweaked out when I'm done with 'em :violent1: :guns: :boxin: :violent1: :guns: :boxin:
Post by: archery288 on March 06, 2008, 09:50:39 PM
Post by: Shannon on March 06, 2008, 09:52:25 PM
Post by: smdave on March 06, 2008, 09:54:11 PM
The manufacturing of, and use of the illegal drug Methamphetamine is a growing concern in South Dakota. It should be of particular concern to unsuspecting outdoor enthusiasts. Meth labs are commonly found in secluded rural areas, campgrounds, and along our waterways. People manufacturing Meth (known as Meth “cooks”) produce the drug in their homes, unoccupied buildings, vehicles, campers, trailers and even ice fishing houses. Whether they are using or manufacturing Meth these individuals may be delusional and extremely paranoid. Approaching them in camouflage clothing and carrying a firearm can be a recipe
for disaster.
If you encounter a Meth ‘cook’ or user while on your outing, remember they may be hallucinating, paranoid or violent because of the drug. Take precautions to keep you and your party safe. Keep in mind these six safety tips for approaching a Meth “tweaker” (user).
Keep your distance. Coming too close can be
perceived as threatening.
No bright lights. The tweaker is paranoid and
bright lights may cause them to react violently.
Slow your speech, lower your voice.
Slow your movements. The tweaker may be
paranoid and may misunderstand your actions.
Keep your hands visible, or they may feel threatened
and become violent.
Keep the tweaker talking. A tweaker who falls silent can be extremely dangerous. Silence often means that his paranoid thoughts have taken over reality, and anyone present can become part of the tweaker’s paranoid delusions. If you are threatened, call law enforcement and tell them that this person may be under the influence of Meth or other drugs. Meth is a synthetic amphetamine made with common chemicals like cold tablets, solvents, ether, drain cleaners, alcohols (methanol, ethanol), lye, camping fuel, red phosphorus, iodine, anhydrous ammonia, lithium metal, and various acids. Most of these chemicals are hazardous by themselves, but when mixed in the cooking process they become toxic, which is harmful to humans, animals and the environment. These mixtures are also highly flammable and even explosive. Manufacturing of one pound of Meth produces 5-6 pounds of hazardous waste. These chemicals can cause severe health problems, even death if handled improperly. Exposure may cause respiratory problems,
skin and eye irritation, headaches, nausea and dizziness. If you believe you inadvertently
came into contact with a lab or dumpsite and experience any of these symptoms, first seek immediate health care. Secondly, we ask that you contact local law enforcement or the “Turn in Poachers hotline (TIPs)” at 1-888-683-7224 and report the location and any details you can remember.
The following is a list of items (or empty containers) that may indicate a Meth lab is nearby or you have stumbled upon the dumpsite:
Propane tank with blue or makeshift valve (discolored
because of exposure to anhydrous ammonia)
Cold/allergy tablets
Red Devil lye
Iodine
Heet
Coffee filters (stained reddish brown)
Lithium batteries
Toluene
M.E.K.
Starting fluid
Brake cleaner
Plastic containers with rubber tubing
Camping fuel
Acetone
Stained or crusted cookware
For more information about South Dakota’s Methamphetamine
problem log onto www.mappsd.org
or call 1-800-343-9272
MAPP-SD
Meth Awareness and Prevention Project
A project of Prairie View Prevention Services
Post by: mossback91 on March 06, 2008, 10:00:11 PM
Post by: Smokepole on March 06, 2008, 10:34:26 PM
I used to dig a lot of native trees when I was first getting started in the landscaping business. That was back when you could still get a permit. I walked across a river flat carrying a sharp shovel and armload of burlap, looking for some good aspens. Then I stumbled onto the best pot crop I ever saw. Big, full and bushy plants everywhere. The morning sun was hitting them and they look exotic out there.
I wondered what the grower would say if he saw me out there with burlap and shovel, and decided to get the hell out. Should have stabbed out a couple nice clumps before I left. Would have paid my gas money, I'm sure! :chuckle:
Post by: LongTatLaw on March 07, 2008, 04:58:30 AM
I hear they have half off and buy one get one free sales if ya go straight through the manufacturers???
All ya gotta do is knock on the door and ask! :bash:
after all, buy the time its on the shelf at wallyworld they mark it way up!!! :rolleyes:
Post by: ICEMAN on March 07, 2008, 05:05:41 AM
1-800-388-GROW (4769)
Way back in 91' or so, I reported a pot grow I stumbled across and received a bunch of cash by reporting the grow to authorities.
If you report a pot grow to this phone number, they will dispatch local drug task force guys to investigate/eradicate the grow operation, then send you a reward. If you call 911 first, no reward.
Task force guys back then informed me that there weren't generally any booby traps or anything like this around pot grows since the pot farmers would have to avoid them too. I walked all thru the grow I encountered. Massive. After I reported, I hooked up with the task force and took them in to the site.
I would still be careful, and get out and report....cash is always nice, and it's confidential...no names needed.
Not sure with meth, don't think there is any award narking on the meth growers...
http://www.wsp.wa.gov/crime/hotline.htm
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 07, 2008, 05:30:58 AM
Guys, write down this number, keep with your hunting license....
1-800-388-GROW (4769)
Not sure with meth, don't think there is any award narking on the meth growers...
http://www.wsp.wa.gov/crime/hotline.htm
Some rewards are priceless
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 07, 2008, 05:37:16 AM
So you sold the pot? :chuckle:
Post by: ICEMAN on March 07, 2008, 06:50:39 AM
I have no problem turning in a grow or meth lab. Would do it again, reward or not.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 07, 2008, 06:59:21 AM
Post by: Bofire on March 07, 2008, 07:17:29 AM
Leave it alone get away and call the cops!!
Carl
Post by: Smokepole on March 07, 2008, 07:48:20 AM
Anybody know about a hotline?
Post by: MikeWalking on March 07, 2008, 08:10:56 AM
Post by: Head-shot on March 07, 2008, 07:37:53 PM
hm? looking at that list of ingredients I'm thinking.....tracers? :chuckle:
He He He :chuckle: Light 'em up that would be cool, funny too until we burned down half a million acres by the fire the burning lab caused........."And the rockets red glare"....... :chuckle:
Post by: Antlershed on March 07, 2008, 07:54:52 PM
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Post by: sisu on March 10, 2008, 09:35:17 AM
Too bad more of that stuff did not happen here with the cookers and growers.
Post by: PacificNWhunter on March 10, 2008, 12:15:01 PM
Post by: MikeWalking on March 11, 2008, 07:22:39 AM
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redneck usta mean an old farmer.. now who knows what it means?....
There's another thought on the origin of "Redneck"
My Scottish ancestors were among the first to volunteer for the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War. They were known as Rednecks for the red scarves they all wore. They may well have gone on to be the sunburnt neck farmers...
Post by: MountainWalk on March 11, 2008, 07:40:39 AM
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Post by: edmondshunter on March 11, 2008, 05:37:18 PM
O7 Elk season in Randle/ packwood area, I had my stove and coleman fuel taken by tweekers. Not to mention all the other gear they took.
Post by: Ray on March 11, 2008, 05:45:10 PM
Post by: bowhuntin on March 11, 2008, 05:49:09 PM
Damn IceMan. Turned in a guy for some pot... Meth I understand, but a little greenery, thats just wrong. I mean whats the worst a stoner would do, eat your lunch when your not looking.
The problem is the people that grow it aren't the stoners, and probably don't want it to be discovered, so are willing to do whatever it takes to make that happen. I would have done the same thing, we don't need no shady folks doing drugs and crap where we hunt.
Post by: edmondshunter on March 11, 2008, 05:59:10 PM
The problem is the people that grow it aren't the stoners, and probably don't want it to be discovered, so are willing to do whatever it takes to make that happen. I would have done the same thing, we don't need no shady folks doing drugs and crap where we hunt.
Agreed for the most part. I unfortunately grew up in a family that had a few pot heads in it. They come in all types. Just not sure I would have turned them in.
For a lot of those guys, growing pot is like taking a doe out of season to put food on the table, or like a side job.
Not saying I'm an advocate, but I'm no rat either
Post by: sisu on March 11, 2008, 06:15:26 PM
Damn IceMan. Turned in a guy for some pot... Meth I understand, but a little greenery, thats just wrong. I mean whats the worst a stoner would do, eat your lunch when your not looking.
O7 Elk season in Randle/ packwood area, I had my stove and coleman fuel taken by tweekers. Not to mention all the other gear they took.
Here is the plain and simple explanation: GROWING, SMOKING, EATING, DIGESTING WEED IS ILLEGAL. So if someone does the crime be prepared to do the time. If someone has a problem with that stay away from people like me because I'll turn their butts in.
Our society has become too permissive as it is so one less criminal on the street is not going to break my heart or bother my conscience.
Post by: ICEMAN on March 11, 2008, 09:59:13 PM
Post by: MountainWalk on March 11, 2008, 10:03:33 PM
Post by: bowhuntin on March 11, 2008, 10:33:35 PM
For a lot of those guys, growing pot is like taking a doe out of season to put food on the table, or like a side job.
I can think of many other ways to supplement my income if i needed to put food on the table. Plus there are many charitable organizations and food banks out there to help the less fortunate.
edmondshunter, they had over 900 plants.
Man that must have been a big operation that you found.
Post by: mossback91 on March 11, 2008, 10:42:50 PM
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Post by: alecvg on March 12, 2008, 04:36:38 PM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 12, 2008, 08:32:06 PM
You shoudl all take a drive up mT. hull and hti the deep woods back there in haley creek and stuff. See some serious real life deliverence *censored* goin on up there if u stay around to long. hardcore hillbillies for sure.Not going back to the days of H. Greenleaf, and mob ties, etc. are we? :dunno: Besides haven't they cleaned it up and changed the name to Swanson Mill :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: skinzner on March 12, 2008, 09:15:47 PM
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Post by: edmondshunter on March 14, 2008, 09:00:39 PM
I commend people that try to look out for the greater good by reporting illegal activity. The world needs more of you around. I also think that its in peoples best interest to focus on problems that really plague the world, not some smoked-up hipster making a little cash growing pot. The Meth epidemic has spread across the nation like wildfire. Kids and adults alike are ruining their lives using meth-amphetamines. Thats a tad more important in my book.
Post by: bowhuntin on March 14, 2008, 09:31:34 PM
Struck a chord with a few folks I guess.
I commend people that try to look out for the greater good by reporting illegal activity. The world needs more of you around. I also think that its in peoples best interest to focus on problems that really plague the world, not some smoked-up hipster making a little cash growing pot. The Meth epidemic has spread across the nation like wildfire. Kids and adults alike are ruining their lives using meth-amphetamines. Thats a tad more important in my book.
Those people that ruined there lives by using meth probably started out using pot. It is a gateway drug. Just take a look at the people that smoke that crap, it destroys their minds.
Post by: edmondshunter on March 14, 2008, 09:44:31 PM
The flip side is that some of the most synonymous names in American history were potheads. I guess its sort of 6 of one half a dozen of the other.
Just playing devils advocate
Post by: Head-shot on March 14, 2008, 09:53:18 PM
Agreed for the most part.Yep that's true same goes for the music world, rock and country...Most great tunes were written under the influence of something.
The flip side is that some of the most synonymous names in American history were potheads. I guess its sort of 6 of one half a dozen of the other.
Just playing devils advocate
Post by: jae on March 15, 2008, 08:26:12 AM
The grow operations I found were all in cowlitz and lewis county in the 1990's and I did not report them. Looking back I wish I would have. At the time I did not report them, because the plants were gone and the only evidence I ever found was cut off stems, holes in the ground (too hold water I guess), fertilizer and empty bags of potting soil, and a couple of watering systems with water pipe.
These people are a threat to the security of the property that we enjoy. If we continue to have the explotion of private timber land and national forests, our access is going to be limited yet again. Our safety is definitely being jeopardized, our health and the health of the wildlife we enjoy persuing is also in great jeopardy. Please turn in any illeagle activity you encounter for the good of all.
Post by: ICEMAN on March 15, 2008, 04:56:29 PM