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Title: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: sled on August 14, 2010, 01:10:08 PM
  Anybody have an idea what would cause this?  Getting close to season and brother-inlaw cant get dialed in.
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: boneaddict on August 14, 2010, 01:34:57 PM
His bow is out of tune.   There are several threads on here about it, and or he can google it and there are vids or things he can do to get it so they shoot the same.

A properly tuned bow shooting a perfectly spined arrow will place a field point in the same spot as a fixed three-blade broadhead.

Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: danceswitharrows on August 14, 2010, 02:10:44 PM
 :yeah:
If you dont get it tuned adjust your rest and not your sights for your broadheads
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: canyelk48 on August 14, 2010, 02:37:32 PM
His bow is out of tune.   There are several threads on here about it, and or he can google it and there are vids or things he can do to get it so they shoot the same.

A properly tuned bow shooting a perfectly spined arrow will place a field point in the same spot as a fixed three-blade broadhead.


Can't say I agree with you.  My bow is paper tuned by a professional bow shop and the Muzzy-3 broadheads I was using were hitting close to 4 inches to the left of my field points at 20 yards; at 40 yards I had to aim just in front of the back ham to hit in the kill zone.  I just switched to the Magnus Stinger 4-blades and they're consistently hitting right in with my field point groupings.
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: MIKEXRAY on August 14, 2010, 02:44:28 PM
Make sure you shoot more than one broadhead, I thought I had troubles also but got another arrow / broadhead combo and center punched the target at 50 yards. I shot all my arrows with broadheads and found 2 funny fliers ( consistently off the same place ) out of 10. I made sharpie marks and those 2 are field point only.  My other 8 group great out to 60. I chose 4 of the best to hunt with.  Mike
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: Button Nubbs on August 14, 2010, 04:38:16 PM
Canyelk,
It sound like you had a spine issue or your rest was way off center. Did you ever try a broadhead tune? Paper tuning will get you close but not perfect
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: Jason on August 14, 2010, 04:56:55 PM
His bow is out of tune.   There are several threads on here about it, and or he can google it and there are vids or things he can do to get it so they shoot the same.

A properly tuned bow shooting a perfectly spined arrow will place a field point in the same spot as a fixed three-blade broadhead.


Can't say I agree with you.  My bow is paper tuned by a professional bow shop and the Muzzy-3 broadheads I was using were hitting close to 4 inches to the left of my field points at 20 yards; at 40 yards I had to aim just in front of the back ham to hit in the kill zone.  I just switched to the Magnus Stinger 4-blades and they're consistently hitting right in with my field point groupings.
:yeah:
I had the same problem, its not always a tuning issue, when I started shooting a tried Muzzy 125's, bow was tuned fine, field points were dead on, muzzy's were hitting low 3" and right 4", started doing research and found that you have to tune your broadheads and field points together until they fly the same  :yike:
I did some more research, bought some Wac' Em Tritons and they fly identical to my field points without changing a thing, not all broadheads have field point accuracy. Shuttle T's, Triton's, Striker's, Montec's and Slick Tricks just to name a few have true fieldpoint accuracy.
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: canyelk48 on August 14, 2010, 06:08:18 PM
Canyelk,
It sound like you had a spine issue or your rest was way off center. Did you ever try a broadhead tune? Paper tuning will get you close but not perfect
Not sure if the paper tuning was done with a broadhead, but I suspect it was just with a field point.  I ordered an Admiral Bowtech package from a dealer, so the bow arrived ready to shoot, including the paper tuning with the Gold Tip arrows I ordered with the bow.  However, since I switched from Muzzys to the Magnus Stingers and they are hitting in the same groupings as my field points, I'd have to say it's a broadhead issue.  My buddy used to use Thunderheads and had the same problems until he switched to Montecs.  When I compared the reviews between the Stingers and the Montecs, the Stingers scored slightly higher so I opted for them.  Thanks for the suggestion though.
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 14, 2010, 08:57:37 PM
i have shot a lot of broadheads and find even with a well tuned bow that some broadheads will shoot diffrent then the field tips. my montecs i shoot now hit just a little higher then my field tips. if i screw on some shuttle t's then it shoots 3" to the right. then i screw on some innerloc's and there touching the montecs :dunno: just some combos don't work. but i would have his bow tuned, and if that does not fix it and he can't get dialed in then i would suggest finding some new broadheads to try with his setup. hope this helps :brew:
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: bonkellekter on August 14, 2010, 10:11:53 PM
What is your brother-inlaws setup? Bow, draw weight, draw length, arrows, arrow cut length, broadhead weight. I can run these numbers thru my arrow selection software and see if he is even in the right ball park.

If you have a correctly spined arrow than you can tune most any broadhead to fly almost identical to your feild points. The best tuning guide I have found is the eastons tuning guide -

http://www.eastonarchery.com/pdf/tuning_guide.pdf (http://www.eastonarchery.com/pdf/tuning_guide.pdf)
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: Gamblin Guy on August 14, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
What is your brother-inlaws setup? Bow, draw weight, draw length, arrows, arrow cut length, broadhead weight. I can run these numbers thru my arrow selection software and see if he is even in the right ball park.

If you have a correctly spined arrow than you can tune most any broadhead to fly almost identical to your feild points. The best tuning guide I have found is the eastons tuning guide -

http://www.eastonarchery.com/pdf/tuning_guide.pdf (http://www.eastonarchery.com/pdf/tuning_guide.pdf)

 :yeah:


Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: CSOUTFITTERS on August 15, 2010, 05:02:18 AM
its probably not the bow.  Ive had several broadheads do what you are describing.  I put that head on a different arrow and it shoots just like my points.  Make sure you shoot out at your farthest distance to see what they do.  Go with the Magnus, it sounds like they are dialed in, 4 blades that still fly good are better than 3 or 2 and they are cut on contact.   
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: Jellymon on August 15, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
could be arrow spine? I used to shoot 70lbs and used 340 spine arrows, and my broadheads and field points hit the same. I recently got a new bow that is faster so I went down to 66lbs and the 340 arrows are now a tad stiff. The broadheads now hit about 4" left of my field points. Im leaving it though because my broadheads are shooting 5" or less groups at 60 yds with great arrow flight.
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 20, 2010, 08:38:46 AM
My wac'ems shot 4 inches left yesterday at 40 and 60 yards out of my katera.  My bow is shooting bullets through paper.  If I shoot them through my alpha max they are spot on.  I'm going to put together a dozen slick tricks this afternoon and try them out of my katera.
Title: Re: Broadheads and feild tips grouping about 6 inches apart?
Post by: mrmorton on August 20, 2010, 09:27:29 AM
i can fix all your problems. bare shaft paper tune your setup and then fletch your arrows with a left or right helical. it doesnt matter what fletching you use. then spin test your broadheads with your arrow and then shoot. i do it and everyones bow ive ever done this to shoots spot on to thier field points.
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