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Title: The Chocolate Ram!!!
Post by: Slider on March 13, 2008, 07:00:28 PM
I shot these today. Pope get out your book and tell me what he scores!!! ;)
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Post by: Slider on March 13, 2008, 07:01:53 PM
 ;)
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on March 13, 2008, 07:10:52 PM
 :drool:
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Post by: boneaddict on March 13, 2008, 07:18:01 PM
Great shots! Great Rams. 
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Post by: Red Dawg on March 13, 2008, 07:20:43 PM
 :o
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Post by: klickriverchromer on March 13, 2008, 07:27:30 PM
nice pic's man.  that lighter colored ram is a dandy.
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Post by: Timber on March 13, 2008, 07:49:47 PM
Great pictures! Those are some tremendous California Bighorns! What do you guys think, 175?
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Post by: Ridgerunner on March 13, 2008, 09:03:47 PM
IT would be interesting to see what someone who really knows something thinks about those rams.  At first I really like the chocolate ram with all the character his horns have, but then the shot of both of them and the other ram dwarfs the chocolate ram. 
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Post by: Bigshooter on March 13, 2008, 09:06:10 PM
those are a couple of toads....
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Post by: jackelope on March 13, 2008, 09:11:12 PM
awesome rams...disclaimer...i don't know squat about rams and how to judge them or anything other than the fact they are bighorn sheep...but they look young to me. their horns are not broomed, i tried counting rings, but not really sure what i am looking for but i think i see 6 growth rings on the chocolate ram... :dunno: they're dandys, all of them, but i think they are young and will grow a lot heavier in a few more years.
anybody?
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Post by: archery288 on March 13, 2008, 09:11:22 PM
that gets the ol' blood flowin'!!!!  :drool:
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Post by: DOUBLELUNG on March 13, 2008, 09:28:06 PM
Nope.  They're both at least 9 y.o, and I'm pretty sure the darker guy is at least 10.  The annuli (growth rings) are widely spaced at ages 1 1/2 to 5 1/2 (occasionally 6 1/2), then horn growth slows way down - 1/8"-1" between years.  They're both broomed to the base of the lamb tip, so you don't see the ring from the juvenile winter; nor is there enough growth to see the ring from the past winter.  They'll get a little bigger, but don't have many years left either (if they're not shot, rams in Swakane die during their 12th-14th winter). 

I've seen an old Rocky that added 2" of horn length his last 8 years of life (he was 14).
Title: Re: The Chocolate Ram!!!
Post by: Ridgerunner on March 13, 2008, 09:28:38 PM
I know a little and from what I can tell the lighter color ram is the older ram, definately in his prime, look at how he carries the weight all the way to the tip of his horns, the chocolate ram still has some growing to do but is probably 6-7 years old and just needs a couple more years to put the mass on.  
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Post by: jackelope on March 13, 2008, 09:34:13 PM
thanks doublelung. i will take your word for it.
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Post by: popeshawnpaul on March 13, 2008, 09:37:09 PM
I recognize those rams...  I gotta say, your lens is nice and sharp.  I don't think you realize what you got for photo equipment.  With a little composition and Photoshop (my fault) I think you are good to go.  

The chocolate ram is nice, but I like the broken nose grey ram...  Stone?  I only count 7-8 years from his horns...leaving him some time for aging.  Score?  I dunno, lets let ramslam score him or some other expert.  I gotta guess at least 160 and from there I have to get out my book and compare him to other cali rams.  He might push 170 but I'm not sure...  Man I gotta get over there and do some more hiking.  That was fun.

Shawn
Title: Re: The Chocolate Ram!!!
Post by: Slider on March 13, 2008, 09:48:06 PM
Pope they looked 10 times better in Raw before I converted them to Jpeg and resized em!!! ;)
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Post by: popeshawnpaul on March 13, 2008, 11:56:24 PM
Send me one of your best via email in raw...I'm still thinking white balance, black point, and contrast could help on these...  Mess with these in DPP 3.2 if you get a chance.  That's really a tough background to shoot with though.  Just think, in a month or so everything will be green and you should have a much better background to shoot with...

Shawn
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Post by: provider on March 14, 2008, 09:27:24 AM
Those are really nice rams.  REALLY nice!
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Post by: Muleyslyr on March 14, 2008, 01:54:52 PM
Damn!  Awesome pics!  Thanks slider.....
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Post by: ramslam on March 14, 2008, 02:21:50 PM
Two nice rams and awesome pics!

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Post by: alecvg on March 15, 2008, 12:07:59 AM
Those are amazing rams!
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Post by: PacificNWhunter on March 16, 2008, 12:12:39 PM
awesome  :P
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Post by: andrew_12gauge on March 19, 2008, 08:32:05 PM
i have no idea what thos rams would score, or how old they are but i do know if i had a tag in my pocket and a rifle in my hand and one of them stepped out it would go a little somethin like BOOM
Title: Re: The Chocolate Ram!!!
Post by: robb92 on March 20, 2008, 12:37:45 AM
One day I would love to have one on my wall!
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