Hunting Washington Forum

Equipment & Gear => Archery Gear => Topic started by: Hornseeker on August 26, 2010, 02:09:44 PM

Title: WTF Happened??
Post by: Hornseeker on August 26, 2010, 02:09:44 PM: So, I was shooting some low profile, Easton 2 1/2 inch vanes and was getting beautiful flight with my broadheads, hitting kill zone easy at 55 yards... I stripped them and put blazers on, thinking the higher and more ridgid vane would be better?? :dunno:

Well, I stepped up to 20 and let a broadhead fly and SOB... the arrow looked like it was having a spaz attack all the way to the target. Obviously getting contact... Why would I be getting contact with them? dont most bows shoot them fine? The guy who had the bow before me shot them...

I'm confused!

Ernie
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: LCG on August 26, 2010, 02:18:14 PM: Sometimes they need clocked differently. Try turning your knock point. Check them with food spry if that doesnt work.

Don
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: dlaw on August 26, 2010, 02:53:50 PM: I have to turn my so the bottom left fletching is up a little.
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: jackelope on August 26, 2010, 02:55:13 PM: My bud's bow when he shoots arrows with blazers they hit the bow's cables.
:dunno:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Hornseeker on August 26, 2010, 03:56:04 PM: I will dink with them before I cut them all off tonight.... Thanks guys. :hello:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: adam.WI on August 26, 2010, 04:16:00 PM: I would try tuning form scratch, new equipment new tuning. At least walk back tuning to see if it's close.
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Machias on August 26, 2010, 04:23:12 PM: Gotta be some contact somewhere.
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: high country on August 26, 2010, 04:25:05 PM: a shotof antifungal foot spray to the arrow will show whats up
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: jackelope on August 26, 2010, 04:56:57 PM: Quote from: high country on August 26, 2010, 04:25:05 PM
a shotof antifungal foot spray to the arrow will show whats up

Yep...it could be a fungus.
Or is it fungi?
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: danceswitharrows on August 26, 2010, 06:30:54 PM: and make sure that foot spray is non scented, dont want them getting your wind :chuckle:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Hunter Dug on August 26, 2010, 07:40:34 PM: Cables for sure, measure the height of the vanes you tore off and the height of the new blazers i bet the blazers are a little bit over a 1/16th to a 1/8 inch taller. Like said earlier turn cock vane a little to the right.
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: JBar on August 27, 2010, 05:28:21 AM: Why the heck are you changing things on your set up a week before season??? :dunno: If it wasn't broke don't fix it... :twocents:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: rasbo on August 27, 2010, 05:30:24 AM: Quote from: JBar on August 27, 2010, 05:28:21 AM
Why the heck are you changing things on your set up a week before season??? :dunno: If it wasn't broke don't fix it... :twocents:
yeah that :dunno:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: jackelope on August 27, 2010, 06:02:06 AM: Quote from: JBar on August 27, 2010, 05:28:21 AM
Why the heck are you changing things on your set up a week before season??? :dunno: If it wasn't broke don't fix it... :twocents:

Not positive, but I feel like it's a fairly safe bet to assume Hornseeker's got more than 1 bow to work with.
;)
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: boneaddict on August 27, 2010, 06:22:20 AM: I've got some chicken feathers for you to glue on instead of them ugly blazer things.....
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: croix on August 27, 2010, 06:37:48 AM: Quote from: jackelope on August 26, 2010, 04:56:57 PM
Quote from: high country on August 26, 2010, 04:25:05 PM
a shotof antifungal foot spray to the arrow will show whats up

Yep...it could be a fungus.
Or is it fungi?

:chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Hornseeker on August 27, 2010, 07:11:08 AM: Quote
Why the heck are you changing things on your set up a week before season??? If it wasn't broke don't fix it...

:chuckle: Thats what I"M THINKING!!! :bash:

Seriously though... its not like I cant cut them all off and replace with the Eastons and be back to normal.... which is quit likely what I'll do! But I am going to give them a couple twists tonight and see if they start flying.

The reason I dinked with them, is my other vanes were real soft...and when They shot into the target so that the vanes were buried....they'd get all wrinkely and wavy... so I thought the harder Blazers wouldn't do that...

I'm not worried in the least...if they dont fly good tonight, I'll switch back!!
:hello:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: high country on August 27, 2010, 07:44:40 AM: seriously, give the arrow a shot of foot spray. it leaves a white residue that will show contact
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: quadrafire on August 27, 2010, 08:05:09 AM: Ernie, Are you talking a wheel bow here or Trad off the shelf?
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Machias on August 27, 2010, 08:09:30 AM: Training wheels. He's turned to the dark side. :chuckle:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: boneaddict on August 27, 2010, 08:19:12 AM: I know Fred, thats why this thread is titled the way it is.
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: MIKEXRAY on August 27, 2010, 08:25:43 AM: That does crack me up that we are all just fine and hitting the kill zone out to 55 yards and try to get a little more out of it. I have done the same thing. The solution to correct the vanes from getting wavy was a stiffer target ! Not stiffer vanes that still bury to the vanes. Good luck, by the way I love my blazers. Although my friends laugh at the flight noise they make. Mike
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Hornseeker on August 27, 2010, 10:03:34 AM: Quad... yep...training wheels... I have shot trad strictly since 03' I think...and just decided to try these fancy contraptions out again for a bit! I'll have my longbow in the truck for backup if this thing breaks down on me!
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Hornseeker on August 27, 2010, 02:47:42 PM: I shot these today some more, 65 yards I was grouping about 10 inches,in the wind, but they still waggled too much for me...just field points. I think my big Razor cap broadheads would have looked like a 3 ring circus going through the air!!

I then tried them with 100 grain points... much cleaner flight... I noticed with my 175's on, they fly a bit sideways before they straighten out...I think that head is just a touch heavy for these shafts... I am going to turn my bow down a couple pounds and see how they look...if they dont fly better, I"ll shoot lighter heads....or get stiffer arras....

Oh..by the way, I also stripped all the blazers and am back to the easton low pros... the eastons are about .455 tall while the blazers were .6...
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: JBar on August 27, 2010, 04:23:44 PM: Sorry sounded like you were trying to change things last minute more than experiment. My bad for assuming this! But I stick by my "if it ain't broke" comment. Wavy vanes... the worst part about that is they look ugly.
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Hornseeker on August 27, 2010, 09:15:50 PM: :IBCOOL:

I shot broadheads at 65 tonight and never missed the kill zone on my Glen Del.... Life is good....
:IBCOOL:

:hello:

:hello:

:IBCOOL:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Machias on August 27, 2010, 11:42:39 PM: :) :) I hope you get a really nice bull Ernie.
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: boneaddict on August 28, 2010, 07:00:56 AM: Is that what this is all about, you can't get close enough so you have taken up the wheels. LOL

Diversifying is a good thing, but you are scaring me. :chuckle:
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Hornseeker on August 28, 2010, 12:02:25 PM: You know, it started as me wanting a wheeley for antelope hunting...maybe muley hunting on the prairie here... Then when I hurt my shoulder this summer I figured shoot....I may HAVE to shoot this thing for elk too... I couldn't draw my elk weight longbow back, but could easily draw my compound... So.... I basically gave up on the LB for a season..... I shot it some today,and my shoulder doesn't hurt, but 'pops' at almost full draw...a little disconcerting... But I was shooting my LB dam near as good as my compound at the closer ranges...(well... good enough...lets put it that way)....SO...it will be in the truck as I pack this metal outfit around and if something goes haywire with the metal...I'll have my LB...

As far as getting close enough...I suck dude... you know that... This bow will open me up a bit...out to 45 anyways...
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on August 28, 2010, 12:39:58 PM: Hauling that heavy Hoyt around instead of that Hawk might be tougher on your shoulder!
Title: Re: WTF Happened??
Post by: Hornseeker on August 28, 2010, 07:48:20 PM: True Dat! :o