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Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: alanger on August 31, 2010, 08:03:57 PM

Title: HUGE RAM
Post by: alanger on August 31, 2010, 08:03:57 PM: Heres a ram from some Relatives up in alaska.
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Post by: jameslong on August 31, 2010, 08:11:26 PM: Most excellent! Congratulations!
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 31, 2010, 08:20:47 PM: DAM!!!!!!!!!!!! when is he taking us hunting :chuckle: what a great ram! thanks for sharin
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Post by: bearhunter99 on August 31, 2010, 08:39:55 PM: That is a monster ram, any idea on the horn length? How long ago, was it recent?
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Post by: alanger on August 31, 2010, 08:42:28 PM: he says 48" and it was two weeks ago. it may be some record, they are getting official measurings or have been for the past week.
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Post by: bearhunter99 on August 31, 2010, 08:49:49 PM: Quote from: alanger on August 31, 2010, 08:42:28 PM
he says 48" and it was two weeks ago. it may be some record, they are getting official measurings or have been for the past week.

I was going to say, wow! I've seen some big ones but that thing is huge! Looks like an Argali Ram and still looks like it has its lamb tips.
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Post by: huntinluva on August 31, 2010, 08:53:26 PM: Wow, that's a nice curl. Awesome RAM, congrats to the hunter who took him.
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Post by: jager on August 31, 2010, 08:55:50 PM: That is awesome :yike: ...I was going to say 46" I believe its 48"! Congrats to the hunter!

Alaska Range or Chugach?

That's gotta be pushing 190"
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Post by: Blacktail135 on August 31, 2010, 11:39:31 PM: Wow!
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Post by: Vek on September 01, 2010, 08:28:55 AM: Ram is a monster, 48", 13.5 bases, ~180 BC. Was killed in the hard park portion of Wrangell-St. Elias National Park by a qualified "subsistence" hunter. Gotta live off the grid up here and prove some sort of heritage pre-1980 park hunting usage to qualify, or something like that. You can't just go there and hunt.

Not to take anything away from the ram. My source says he was accompanied by a noted sheep hunter/guide (for his own fun?) and they burned through some serious shoe leather to get the ram. I know about where they went, and it's the biggest, roughest, and most unforgiving sheep country in the state. The ram was hurting and moving slow, but was in an absolute armpit of a spot - something like 13-14 years old.
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Post by: jackelope on September 01, 2010, 08:32:23 AM: Well...there you go..

I thought maybe he was hunting in Tajikistan.
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Post by: Ray on September 01, 2010, 08:38:22 AM: That was a hunt of a lifetime I am sure. Awesome animal.
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Post by: blacktailer on September 01, 2010, 09:34:11 PM: Heck of a ram and thanks for posting Alanger. Thanks for the story Jerry. Keeps a guy thinking that there just may be another thinhorn out there that may equal or best the Great Chadwick Ram; the only North American Ram with both horns 50" or larger. For what it's worth Jager, there has never been a recorded dall (I believe) that has hit the 190 mark. The Swank ram came real close and the number 2 drops down to 185 and change. Love looking at big rams.
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Post by: jager on September 01, 2010, 10:15:37 PM: He is a Beauty! I thought the record was an inch or two shy of 190. :o
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Post by: boneaddict on September 02, 2010, 01:21:44 PM: Holy cow.
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Post by: GoldTip on September 02, 2010, 02:09:40 PM: That is a helluva a ram and not to take anything from the hunter, cuz that is some extremely rough hunting where it was taken. But I thought to "keep" the subsistence hunters being "subsistence" that AK had mandated that all skulls be split of animals that are taken with subsistence tags? Is that just for Moose or am I mistaken on this rule?
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Post by: PacificNWhunter on September 04, 2010, 09:47:00 AM: That's a stud ram! Keep us posted if you get more info!
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Post by: bearhunter99 on September 11, 2010, 05:06:09 PM: Goldtip.
I don't think that it is truly a "subsistence" hunt. I also don't think there are any grandfather clauses. From what I understand the unit is only open to current residents of the area, much like you cannot apply for a Cordova moose hunt unless you live in Cordova. My brother has been thinking of taking a job on the North Slope, two weeks on-two weeks off, so that he and his wife could live within the boudaries and have no commute.
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Post by: blacktailer on September 12, 2010, 09:46:27 AM: Sincs we're discussing Huge Dall's and Natives. There is a place up in the Yukin Territory called Kluane National Park. A few years back, the Kluane Nation made some sort of deal that allowed them to give out a raffle and a Government-type tag. There are some incredible sheep out there and it is thought by some, that if the world record is to be broken, the ram will come off the Kluane. I think that tag sold for either $170.000 or $180,000 a few years back and the guy shot a 45 or 46" ram. I think everyone thinks about places like Thompson Falls and Missouri Breaks, MT or Cadomin, AB when they think of high dollar Governors sheep tags. Who would have thought a Dall would fetch that kind of $$$
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Post by: ramslam on September 12, 2010, 01:35:25 PM: The year after Jim Anthony killed the 180 ram on the Kluane that you are referring to, another hunter bought the permit at WSF for $310,000. He took a low 160's ram.
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Post by: blacktailer on September 12, 2010, 02:00:57 PM: Thanks for the info ramslam. $310,0000 seems like a lot of $$$ for a low 160's ram, but he's got a low 160's ram on his wall and I don't. Must be quite an area.
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Post by: ramslam on September 12, 2010, 02:23:45 PM: My guess is they did not think it was that "small" of a ram. For that cash I would think there was an expectation of a book white ram. Quite possibly the most difficult NA big game animal to get in the B&C book right now.
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Post by: high country on September 12, 2010, 02:29:17 PM: Quote from: blacktailer on September 12, 2010, 09:46:27 AM
Sincs we're discussing Huge Dall's and Natives. There is a place up in the Yukin Territory called Kluane National Park. A few years back, the Kluane Nation made some sort of deal that allowed them to give out a raffle and a Government-type tag. There are some incredible sheep out there and it is thought by some, that if the world record is to be broken, the ram will come off the Kluane. I think that tag sold for either $170.000 or $180,000 a few years back and the guy shot a 45 or 46" ram. I think everyone thinks about places like Thompson Falls and Missouri Breaks, MT or Cadomin, AB when they think of high dollar Governors sheep tags. Who would have thought a Dall would fetch that kind of $$$

I have been thereand there are a butt load of sheep.
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Post by: blacktailer on September 12, 2010, 05:00:20 PM: Quite possibly the most difficult NA big game animal to get in the B&C book right now.

I agree 100% with the exception of the Atlantic walrus and Jaguar of course. Just don't see or hear of many these days making that magic 170 mark. Don't matter how much $$$ you have either unlike a lot of other species making the books these days.