Post by: WDFW-SUX on September 19, 2010, 09:19:15 AM
Post by: Jamieb on September 19, 2010, 04:02:09 PM
Post by: high country on September 23, 2010, 04:50:23 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on September 23, 2010, 05:25:02 AM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 23, 2010, 11:03:53 AM
Post by: bobcat on September 23, 2010, 11:06:15 AM
Probably drives a Kia too! :P
Or a Subaru. :o
Post by: dirty24d on September 23, 2010, 11:07:48 AM
Post by: bobcat on September 23, 2010, 11:10:25 AM
volkswagon. :chuckle:
Actually, that would be more likely. Volkswagen/Zeiss = German....
Post by: rasbo on September 23, 2010, 11:51:21 AM
Post by: dirty24d on September 23, 2010, 11:52:12 AM
volkswagon. :chuckle:
Actually, that would be more likely. Volkswagen/Zeiss = German....
Exactly my thought !! :)
Post by: DoubleJ on September 23, 2010, 12:09:19 PM
Post by: jackelope on September 23, 2010, 12:10:39 PM
Probably drives a Kia too! :P
Or a Subaru. :o
:iamwithstupid:
Post by: chrisb on September 23, 2010, 12:15:55 PM
Is it bad that I'm still an under $150 guy?
I'm right there with you.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 23, 2010, 12:25:46 PM
Post by: wsucowboy on September 23, 2010, 12:27:21 PM
Same here.Is it bad that I'm still an under $150 guy?
I'm right there with you.
Post by: whacker1 on September 23, 2010, 12:34:37 PM
Post by: addicted on December 05, 2010, 12:14:56 PM
i see scopes every time i go on group hunts (zeiss,S&B,Sworo) that are 30+years old and still ticking just fine.
I've been making plans for my next gun i buy in the states. I'm looking at zeiss,Minox,and meopta in the 400-500$ price range unless i can snage a schmidt&bender before i leave. :drool:
Post by: whacker1 on December 07, 2010, 08:35:12 AM
welcome to he european world of optics.
i see scopes every time i go on group hunts (zeiss,S&B,Sworo) that are 30+years old and still ticking just fine.
I've been making plans for my next gun i buy in the states. I'm looking at zeiss,Minox,and meopta in the 400-500$ price range unless i can snage a schmidt&bender before i leave. :drool:
You definitely need to snag something before you leave.... I would imagine it is cheaper to bring it back than to buy anything similar here.
Post by: high country on December 07, 2010, 08:47:37 AM
Post by: grundy53 on December 07, 2010, 08:50:30 AM
Post by: addicted on December 07, 2010, 12:24:41 PM
Post by: high country on December 07, 2010, 12:41:20 PM
Post by: addicted on December 07, 2010, 12:57:52 PM
Post by: lewy on December 07, 2010, 01:04:37 PM
Post by: jbeaumont21 on December 07, 2010, 01:11:09 PM
Post by: lewy on December 07, 2010, 01:29:29 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on December 07, 2010, 01:46:47 PM
Post by: high country on December 07, 2010, 01:50:14 PM
Post by: Hornseeker on December 07, 2010, 02:26:50 PM
I DO like Zeiss and Swaro scope though...
Post by: thinkingman on December 07, 2010, 04:26:25 PM
Nobody has asked the questions of why the sudden hatred for Leupold. Did something happen?I wouldn't call it hatred...some of us get tired of label worship in the face of mediocre products with high failure rates and high prices...but as long as you can send one back and get a new one.....
Post by: predatorpro on December 07, 2010, 04:31:26 PM
welcome to he european world of optics.so is my leupold and nikon both were less then $200 lol and they have been through alot, and if anything happens they will get sent in and replaced.....
i see scopes every time i go on group hunts (zeiss,S&B,Sworo) that are 30+years old and still ticking just fine.
I've been making plans for my next gun i buy in the states. I'm looking at zeiss,Minox,and meopta in the 400-500$ price range unless i can snage a schmidt&bender before i leave. :drool:
Post by: Greg30-06 on December 07, 2010, 04:33:13 PM
Yeah me too!Same here.Is it bad that I'm still an under $150 guy?
I'm right there with you.
Post by: Caseyd on December 07, 2010, 04:37:07 PM
I have two Zeiss Conquest scopes. ZenRay binoculars and some older steiner big horn binoculars and the windriver sequoia spotting scope. I am waiting for ZenRay to come out with a spotting scope in order to upgrade. Very happy with the Zeiss products.
They did come out with a spotting scope :)
Post by: whacker1 on December 07, 2010, 04:41:05 PM
I have two Zeiss Conquest scopes. ZenRay binoculars and some older steiner big horn binoculars and the windriver sequoia spotting scope. I am waiting for ZenRay to come out with a spotting scope in order to upgrade. Very happy with the Zeiss products.
They did come out with a spotting scope :)
Funny - When I posted that in September it hadn't come out yet. Glad they came out with the ED2 angled spotting scope. I see that for a smooth $1200 it could be mine today. I think that I will be saving my pesos and wait for a straight version to come out. I am in no hurry right now. That could all change if I were to draw a OIL tag though.
Post by: halflife65 on December 07, 2010, 05:00:14 PM
sind Sie das Bumsen, das mich verkohlt :chuckle: :hello:
"Are you the f*ck me charred" is how that came out. Either it's a whole new insult I've never heard of or Google translate is confused. :chuckle:
Post by: halflife65 on December 07, 2010, 05:02:45 PM
However, if you've looked through European optics you will understand. I bought Swaro binoculars and have entered a whole new world.
Post by: Bofire on December 07, 2010, 05:48:22 PM
Carl
Post by: ser300wsm on December 07, 2010, 05:57:42 PM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on December 07, 2010, 06:06:38 PM
sind Sie das Bumsen, das mich verkohlt :chuckle: :hello:
:dunno: Are you the ...... that I .........
You lost me there Ras :chuckle:
Post by: ICEMAN on December 07, 2010, 06:37:47 PM
:) If you spent triple on your house you'd see a difference, or your car, or rifle, or?????????duh???
Carl
Or wife...
Post by: kingmountain on December 07, 2010, 06:46:45 PM
Post by: high country on December 07, 2010, 07:47:58 PM
Post by: addicted on December 07, 2010, 10:53:24 PM
Post by: Bofire on December 08, 2010, 08:54:04 AM
Carl
Post by: steelhead13 on December 12, 2010, 11:14:13 AM
Post by: addicted on December 12, 2010, 12:01:42 PM
"zeiss conquest doesnt cost 3 times as much as a leupy." and it aint any better either.
Carl
opinion, and quite possibly a wrong one at that. ;)
Post by: Tony 270 on December 12, 2010, 12:11:04 PM
Post by: finnman on December 23, 2010, 08:16:02 PM
Post by: addicted on December 24, 2010, 12:57:18 AM
It must have been a year ago or so but this is what i remember. on % of light transmission, leopould scored in the mid 70's just below meopta while schmidt and bender, zeiss and Sworo maintained in the high 90's. I'll see if i can find someone who still has the article if anyone is interested.
Post by: whacker1 on December 27, 2010, 03:35:43 PM
a german hunting magazine (wild und hunde) did an article with some testing a little while back on light transmission and low light ability both with the naked eye and some fancy testing equipment.
It must have been a year ago or so but this is what i remember. on % of light transmission, leopould scored in the mid 70's just below meopta while schmidt and bender, zeiss and Sworo maintained in the high 90's. I'll see if i can find someone who still has the article if anyone is interested.
I am very interested if you can track down a copy of the article.
Post by: addicted on December 29, 2010, 10:55:41 AM
Post by: Bofire on December 31, 2010, 07:53:47 PM
"zeiss conquest doesnt cost 3 times as much as a leupy." and it aint any better either.
Carl
opinion, and quite possibly a wrong one at that.
As is every post on this thread, duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Chump
Carl
Post by: CastleRocker on January 02, 2011, 08:53:18 PM
That being said, I'm saving my mad money for a Nightforce, Swaro, or a Schmitt Bender, or something like that. I'm thinking seriously about buying a used Kahles right at the moment just because that's what I can afford.
I've just had good luck with Leupold's and I like that they are made in the USA. (At least all the models that I have were built here).
Post by: bhylton on March 16, 2011, 09:45:55 PM
im a leupold gay as well... have an old vx II on my rife from like the 90s that is still waterproof and works perfect. im not gonna say leupolod is better than swaro or nightforce or any of those casue 1 i dont know, and 2, i doubt they are. but i dont think they would be worth $600-$800 more. how damn good do your eyes need to be to see the different? i mean.. optics can anly be SO clear.
oh one more thing. i honestly dont know if those german and european optics are made in eurpoe or USA.. but i know Leupold is made right down the road by some hard workin armerican men and woman.. and i like that.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 16, 2011, 09:49:42 PM
all ya'll that are complaining about your leupold or nikon or swaro binos and other optics going bad inside a 1-2 year time frame must be harder'n hell on your equipment... thats pretty sad.. i hate my cheapy bushnell binos but ive dropped em and roled em around and they havent broke... "still hate them".. idk if you guys are dropping them off cliffs or what but optics made by any componies mentioned in this thread will last if treated fairly.. :twocents:Did this guy have a Frudian slip. "leupold gay" ? :yike:
im a leupold gay as well... have an old vx II on my rife from like the 90s that is still waterproof and works perfect. im not gonna say leupolod is better than swaro or nightforce or any of those casue 1 i dont know, and 2, i doubt they are. but i dont think they would be worth $600-$800 more. how damn good do your eyes need to be to see the different? i mean.. optics can anly be SO clear.
oh one more thing. i honestly dont know if those german and european optics are made in eurpoe or USA.. but i know Leupold is made right down the road by some hard workin armerican men and woman.. and i like that.
Post by: engelwood on March 16, 2011, 10:27:03 PM
Post by: Tinner on March 16, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
Post by: bhylton on March 17, 2011, 09:11:37 AM
all ya'll that are complaining about your leupold or nikon or swaro binos and other optics going bad inside a 1-2 year time frame must be harder'n hell on your equipment... thats pretty sad.. i hate my cheapy bushnell binos but ive dropped em and roled em around and they havent broke... "still hate them".. idk if you guys are dropping them off cliffs or what but optics made by any componies mentioned in this thread will last if treated fairly.. :twocents:Did this guy have a Frudian slip. "leupold gay" ? :yike:
im a leupold gay as well... have an old vx II on my rife from like the 90s that is still waterproof and works perfect. im not gonna say leupolod is better than swaro or nightforce or any of those casue 1 i dont know, and 2, i doubt they are. but i dont think they would be worth $600-$800 more. how damn good do your eyes need to be to see the different? i mean.. optics can anly be SO clear.
oh one more thing. i honestly dont know if those german and european optics are made in eurpoe or USA.. but i know Leupold is made right down the road by some hard workin armerican men and woman.. and i like that.
really? yes obvously i did.
Post by: bhylton on March 17, 2011, 09:13:18 AM
hope i didn't disappoint you.
btw might wanna check your spelling as well.
Post by: KimberRich on March 25, 2011, 09:16:41 AM
:) If you spent triple on your house you'd see a difference, or your car, or rifle, or?????????duh???
Carl
Well put. Zeiss optics are super nice but is it worth the additional cost?? Maybe for some but not for me. I'm Leupold all the way until they do something to change my mind. Had nothing but positive experiences with them to date.