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Other Hunting => Bird Dogs => Topic started by: BIGINNER on September 23, 2010, 11:11:38 AM

Title: recomndations for a training collar.
Post by: BIGINNER on September 23, 2010, 11:11:38 AM: hi vrybody :hello: i'm looking to buy a training shock collar for my dog. A buddy of mine recomnded the dogtra 2500. But it's $380. Well I was wodring. Is there training collars (good ones) for somewhere under $250? I don't wanna skimp out. But I also don't wanna spend too much. It's gotta be waterproof. How much distance rang do I need on the collar when hunting with a gsp? How imoortant is it to have a beper/locater on th collar? I would really apreciate any advice. And also if anyone has a used shock collar that is in good working condition, I might be interests. Thanks
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on September 23, 2010, 11:35:49 AM: 2nd the Tr-Tronics
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Post by: whitey on September 23, 2010, 11:46:31 AM: I have a 2 collar set of the Tritronics.I have owned these for like 7-8 years..They are money well spent..Bullet proof.All I have every needed to do is every so often like 2 in all these years replace the batteries..
They are the only way to train Your dog..
Good Luck.

This is the set I have but mine is of course older model
Classic 70..
http://www.tritronics.com/remotetrainers-G3fieldseries.html (http://www.tritronics.com/remotetrainers-G3fieldseries.html)
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Post by: Caseyd on September 23, 2010, 11:59:30 AM: I have a dogtra and the couple guys I know also have dogtra.

No problems from any of them! They are excellent collars.
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Post by: BIGINNER on September 23, 2010, 12:14:58 PM: do your guys's collars have beepers/locaters? Because th locaters really raise th price, and I don't know if I would use the beeper that much.
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Post by: whitey on September 23, 2010, 12:25:23 PM: No just lite em up.. :yike:
We call it a nick..
Never have had to burn my Lab..
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Post by: Caseyd on September 23, 2010, 12:26:23 PM: Mine does not have a locator.

The beep is an alternative stimulation. Mine doesnt beep, it vibrates.

Once your dog is well trained, the beep/vibration is all it will take :twocents:
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Post by: Caseyd on September 23, 2010, 12:30:55 PM: Quote from: whitey on September 23, 2010, 12:25:23 PM
No just lite em up.. :yike:
We call it a nick..
Never have had to burn my Lab..

The dogtra has a nick button, continual button (7 seconds) and a page button (vibration)
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Post by: bonneylakebowman on September 23, 2010, 01:17:14 PM: I have a tri tronics G3 sport basic and i like it alot. I was always taught that the collar should only be for insurance in the field and should barely be used in the field so i just got something basic.
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Post by: SnowDog on September 23, 2010, 02:02:13 PM: Quote from: BIGINNER on September 23, 2010, 12:14:58 PM
do your guys's collars have beepers/locaters? Because th locaters really raise th price, and I don't know if I would use the beeper that much.

The Tri Tronics Sport Upland G3 includes a beeper, but you are back at the $350 price. I use the Sport Basic G3 and it has been rock solid, but I am training a Lab and don't really need the locator / point indicator that the beeper provides. If your dog runs real big and you hunt places where you can not see when he is on point, then the beeper is something you sould consider for a GSP.

Cheers!
SD
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Post by: Special T on September 23, 2010, 02:32:27 PM: I have a sport as well.. seems to work good enough for me... Any one ever used them around the salt water? I'm a little nervous about that... mine works fine in fresh... BTW its best to only use the .5-1 setting when they are in the water.... It conducts pretty good! :yike:
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Post by: Machias on September 23, 2010, 03:39:19 PM: The nice thing about the Tri-Tronics is you can add collars later on. Tri-Tronics is the best IMO.
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Post by: RC3 on September 23, 2010, 05:40:55 PM: Tritronics are all that I will use, guy I train with has one that still works from like 20 years ago.
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Post by: ac_156 on September 23, 2010, 07:31:07 PM: try this site has the best information i have found. http://www.gundogsupply.com/ (http://www.gundogsupply.com/)
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Post by: Rowdy on September 23, 2010, 07:37:53 PM: My vote is for Tri-Tronics. Try the Collar Clinic, you can get refurbed models with a warranty.

Jake
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Post by: AWS on September 23, 2010, 11:19:33 PM: I'm running a Sportdog with a remote control beeper, I like it alot. My partner has a G-3 with a beeper, works well also. I Started with a DT Systems Micro iDT collar and a seperate DT remote controlled beeper collar that also worked very well , just got tired of two different collars and remotes. I find the beeper very important as we hunt very heavy cover and I can seldom see my dog but can keep tract of him by the sound of the beeper.

The DT Systems remote beeper is only $119, if you can find a used training collar (i just sold one for $50.) you can have pretty good set up on the cheap.

http://www.lcsupply.com/Product/Electronic-Dog-Collars/Beeper-Collars/DT-Systems-BTB-Baritone-Beeper-Collars.html (http://www.lcsupply.com/Product/Electronic-Dog-Collars/Beeper-Collars/DT-Systems-BTB-Baritone-Beeper-Collars.html)

AWS
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Post by: Stickerbush on September 24, 2010, 09:47:23 PM: I have the dogtra 1900, has worked well so far. Plenty of distance, wide range of stimulation. vibration option...
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Post by: Happy Gilmore on September 27, 2010, 12:38:59 PM: http://www.collarclinic.com/ (http://www.collarclinic.com/)
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Post by: andersonjk4 on September 27, 2010, 08:27:14 PM: I also endorse Tri-Tronics. My first shock collars were Sport-dogs and they work fine for in the yard type training. I upgraded to the Tri-tronics G3 and they are way better than the sport-dogs. I originally ordered the G3 upland combo with the beepers, but ended up returning them for the G3 basic. The beeper really freaked my dogs out and were just big and bulky and not worth the money to me. I ended up buying bells and they are way easier on my ears, the dogs don't even notice them, and they are a fraction of the cost of the beepers. I will also second the recommendation for gundogsupply.com great place for everything for your hunting pals.
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Post by: BIGINNER on September 28, 2010, 07:55:17 AM: thanks for all the help guys, i'llprobably go with the tri-tronics. hey anderson. what kind of bells do you but on your dogs? i'm kindof new to the whole hunting dogs thing, lol so any help would be apreciated.
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Post by: AWS on September 28, 2010, 01:38:03 PM: Lion country Supply has a great selection of dog bells.

http://www.lcsupply.com/Product/Dog-Bells/ (http://www.lcsupply.com/Product/Dog-Bells/)

I've tried a few different beeper collars and because of all the shooting I've done over the years I can no longer hear high tone so only the DT baritone beaper and the Sport dog beepers are in my tone range the G-3 has some tone I can here but think Tri-Tronics is over rated almost everyone I know that has owned one has had to send it in for repairs. I dislike bells because you can't turn them off.

AWS
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 28, 2010, 02:07:28 PM: I cannot recommend any training collar.

Not a damn one has worked on me! :chuckle:

-Steve
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Post by: DOUBLELUNG on September 28, 2010, 02:29:33 PM: Wedding band is the most effective training collar that's ever been used on me. The continuous burn from the first one was rough, but the second one works really well.
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Post by: Wayne1 on September 28, 2010, 06:11:12 PM: Tri-Tronics's all the way..... and their American made :)
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Post by: andersonjk4 on September 29, 2010, 08:47:53 AM: Quote from: BIGINNER on September 28, 2010, 07:55:17 AM
thanks for all the help guys, i'llprobably go with the tri-tronics. hey anderson. what kind of bells do you but on your dogs? i'm kindof new to the whole hunting dogs thing, lol so any help would be apreciated.

I use a brass bell for my shorthair. And a steel cowbell type bell on my Vizsla. I use the two different kinds because they make two different tones so you can tell them apart. I use the brass on my shorthair, because it is louder and he is a bigger runner than my Vizsla who works a lot closer. It's true that you can't turn them off, but given the cost of a bell compared to a beeper collar I can easily put up with some ringing bells between hunts. And if you don't like listening to them while not hunting it only takes a couple seconds to slip them on or off of the dogs collar. Bells cost between $5 and $10 bucks, so you can pick one up and try it out if you end up not liking it you aren't out much. After hunting with the bells for awhile the sound kind of becomes second nature and you just naturally follow the sound and you now right away when it stops because they are on point.
Title: Re: recomndations for a training collar.
Post by: Billy on October 03, 2010, 09:27:54 AM: Look at the Dogtra 300M. It has a 1/2 mile range and works well for dogs that don't need a high level of stimulation. (hard heads) Don't get me wrong, when you put it on level 100, it would flip most dogs over, but Shorthairs don't normally require that level of stimulation.

www.collarclinic.com (http://www.collarclinic.com) has them listed for under $200.
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Post by: Ireland Farms on October 04, 2010, 08:11:27 PM: I have the Dogtra two dog training collar system. I love it.
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Post by: Hangfire on October 15, 2010, 05:38:25 AM: Be carefull with the shock collar. They are often a crutch for lack of training skills by the owner. At least keep the shock level very low, just a slight reminder to the dog. To many people loose there temper and really hit the dog, doing more harm than good. Incorporate with your whistle.
Title: Re: recomndations for a training collar.
Post by: BIGINNER on October 15, 2010, 08:08:19 AM: Quote from: Hangfire on October 15, 2010, 05:38:25 AM
Be carefull with the shock collar. They are often a crutch for lack of training skills by the owner. At least keep the shock level very low, just a slight reminder to the dog. To many people loose there temper and really hit the dog, doing more harm than good. Incorporate with your whistle.

definately agree, i've seen the collar being abused before... not pretty.... my dog is really easy, but i need it, just in case
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Post by: CP on October 15, 2010, 08:42:27 AM: I’ve tried to not use one on my new pup but he insists on being headstrong and every now and then he decides that he’s going to run a full speed lap around the field. Not only does that scare off the birds but in the pheasant release areas it’s a good way to get shot. I just bought him a Tri Tronics sport basic g3 as a present and next time he gives me that “F-you, I’m running off” look he’s getting nicked.
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Post by: Special T on October 15, 2010, 10:45:51 AM: I find its just useful for them to know they are still your controll even if they are 50-100yards away. :twocents: My little brother's girlfriend that had a visala. dog didn't listen at all unless the collar was on... the collar rarely had any batteries, but still managed control.
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Post by: Balladeer on October 18, 2010, 09:42:16 PM: Tri-tronics sport basic G3. My dog would chase flyers, tweety birds, other dogs on the other side of the field and couldn't turn her. I broke her in like the instruction video recommended. Only used the collar once in the field and problem was solved (super glad by the way). She always wears the collar, though, for insurance.
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Post by: Schmalzfam on October 18, 2010, 11:07:30 PM: Dogtra has been super reliable for us same collar for the last 6 years and no problems.