Post by: pat riotic on September 29, 2010, 08:37:04 PM
Post by: 1bugman on September 29, 2010, 08:42:10 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on September 29, 2010, 08:44:21 PM
Post by: pat riotic on September 29, 2010, 08:46:39 PM
Just bought a new 300 win mag. it came down to the tikka and the 700. I went with the 700. would have been happy with either. couldn't get by the clip on the tikka. The composit seemed kinda plasticy. and it is about $75 to replace, the 700 is about $30-35.i did notice that too (the clip) but the 700 ADL is the one im looking at and it has no clip you just push the bullets in and there is no way other then using the action to get them out which would be a pain if your mooving in and out of a car but i dont think it be that easy to break the clip
Post by: 1bugman on September 29, 2010, 08:49:20 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 29, 2010, 08:49:55 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 29, 2010, 08:51:47 PM
Post by: Thefisherman83 on September 29, 2010, 08:53:17 PM
Post by: pat riotic on September 29, 2010, 08:55:07 PM
also the clips are not very easy to break ;) most people just want a second one to carry with them.
:yeah: :)
Post by: Rick on September 29, 2010, 09:04:30 PM
Post by: coop2424 on September 29, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: 1bugman on September 29, 2010, 09:13:15 PM
I personally have the Remington 700 30-06 and it is my go to rifle. Not sure if I will ever own anything other than the 700 of course multiple calibers. Have not shot the tikka but I did not like the feel of it compared to the 700. I personally like all the extras you can get for the 700's since they have been around so long.:yeah:
Post by: FC on September 29, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
Post by: Jamieb on September 29, 2010, 09:19:22 PM
Theres way more aftermarket parts for the Remington and ever gunsmith in the country will work on a Remington.
I don't really dislike the tikka but mine just fells like a cold piece of steel/plastic, no character.
Heres a picture of a friend admiring my tikka in 270wsm, wallmart parking lot in Ketchikan AK, the walmart in the background just makes this pic.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv376%2Felkhunter%2Fpissonrifle.jpg&hash=0a68a6444ed6952f6925e5e44e5a12ea8e0b6f33)
Post by: robescc on September 29, 2010, 09:25:06 PM
None in 06 but I own one tikka and a few 700's. For most hunters the tikka is a better deal, great out of the box shooter that wont need anything done to it. I prefer Remington 700's, with a little tweaking, trigger job and bedding you end up with a heck of a rifle.
Theres way more aftermarket parts for the Remington and ever gunsmith in the country will work on a Remington.
I don't really dislike the tikka but mine just fells like a cold piece of steel/plastic, no character.
I agree completely. And if you reload, there is a .6" jump to the lands for a standard lenght cartridge on the Tikka. That is way to much of a jump in my opinion.
Post by: FC on September 29, 2010, 09:33:24 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 29, 2010, 09:48:34 PM
None in 06 but I own one tikka and a few 700's. For most hunters the tikka is a better deal, great out of the box shooter that wont need anything done to it. I prefer Remington 700's, with a little tweaking, trigger job and bedding you end up with a heck of a rifle.
Theres way more aftermarket parts for the Remington and ever gunsmith in the country will work on a Remington.
I don't really dislike the tikka but mine just fells like a cold piece of steel/plastic, no character.
I agree completely. And if you reload, there is a .6" jump to the lands for a standard lenght cartridge on the Tikka. That is way to much of a jump in my opinion.
you mean .06 right?
Post by: haugenna on September 29, 2010, 10:47:20 PM
Post by: Bob33 on September 29, 2010, 10:51:08 PM
And if you reload, there is a .6" jump to the lands for a standard lenght cartridge on the Tikka. That is way to much of a jump in my opinion.I really don't care how much my bullet jumps. I only care where it hits. With my Tikka T3, it groups right around 1" or better. You can't go wrong.
Post by: high country on September 30, 2010, 05:10:58 AM
Post by: Gutpile on September 30, 2010, 05:17:59 AM
Shoots great, nice and light. Glad i bought it so far.
Post by: lewy on September 30, 2010, 06:46:18 AM
Post by: pat riotic on September 30, 2010, 06:57:32 AM
cant say enough about my tikka, had great luck with it. Nothing wrong with the 700's thow........wouldnt go with a scoped combo, your gunna want good quality glass and for that kind of money i dont think thats what your gunna getyeah and like i said im gonna have to buy a good scope no matter what gun i get, and yeah that scope it comes with is a 20 dollar scope so no thanks :)
Post by: Bofire on September 30, 2010, 09:52:42 AM
Carl
Post by: halflife65 on September 30, 2010, 10:02:28 AM
Jeez Haugenna, learn to shoot. (Obviously kidding - great shooting.)
Post by: Practical Approach on September 30, 2010, 10:16:31 AM
Post by: thinkingman on September 30, 2010, 01:53:25 PM
Lighter (for hunting, you carry A LOT and shoot very little), much better trigger, likely to be more accurate.
700's usually need some tweaking (or a lot of tweaking)
If it was a range gun and you like to tinker...maybe the 700.
Remingtons also have some spotty QC out of the factory and the risk is too great for me.
Post by: halflife65 on September 30, 2010, 03:39:53 PM
I love my Tikka T3 300WSM. It is like packing around a toy. Great if you do a lot of packing or rida a mountain bike. The stainless version is great for the wet westside. One downside is that I got ahold of some ammunition one year that does not work at all with the Tikka. I can't remember which it was, but it was so bad that at 100 yards you would hit all over a target, if you even hit the target. I looked on the Cabela's website and there was a long list of people complaining about the ammunition with their Tikka's. As long as I reload or avoid that ammunition then it shoots great.
I had no luck with the Winchester ammo. I don't know about all over the paper but it did open up a bit with it. Mine seems to like Federal ok.
Post by: hunter-4-life on September 30, 2010, 04:15:41 PM
Post by: DBZona on September 30, 2010, 04:18:14 PM
Post by: Practical Approach on September 30, 2010, 04:18:57 PM
Post by: FC on September 30, 2010, 04:40:10 PM
I seem to remember it was Winchester that it didn't like as well.
That is pretty funny, if I had first shot my Savage .308 with the Winchester ammo I picked up to try I would have taken the rifle right back for an exchange. I first shot Federal Power-Shok 150's in it and was getting groups between 5/8" and 1". I tried the Winchester Super X 180's and found that it wasn't even on paper anymore at 100 yards! I adjusted the scope up about one and a half FEET and proceeded to put 12" groups up...I immediately started checking the rifle over for something loose etc and found nothing, tried a group with some Silver Bear 145gr and held 1.5' low and got a 1" group. Re-sighted with the Federal and haven't tried any other ammo since...
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on September 30, 2010, 08:31:27 PM
On a side note, in hunting positions, I shoot my T3 worse than my heavy 700. My 700 weighs 2 lbs more (aftermarket HS stock on it). But off sandbags, that T3 amazes me with 1" at 200 yds.
Post by: pat riotic on September 30, 2010, 09:51:23 PM
owned many of both, do not own a Rem rifle now. I'd take the Tikka, I have never paid over 50.00 for a magazine. I have several.definantley good to know about the clip thanks ;D ;D ;D
Carl
Post by: pat riotic on September 30, 2010, 09:55:10 PM
Well if it were me I would go with the Tikka. I don't have enough time to say all the good things about it. If you haven't ever handled one get a hold of me and we will go out shooting so you can see first hand how nice and accurate it shoots. For all of you out there here is how mine is set up. Its chambered in .308, Scoped with 3x9x40 Burris Fullfield II, and a Limbsaver recoil pad. Oh yeah and the trigger is pull is set to my liking.sounds good :)
Post by: pat riotic on September 30, 2010, 10:01:03 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 30, 2010, 10:07:19 PM
Post by: pat riotic on October 01, 2010, 06:50:20 AM
good luck with your purchase :tup: wholesale sports had a sale on tikkas a little bit ago. think it was like 50-70 back or somthin like that. you might be able to find them on sale, or with rebate if you look around a bit.yeah cabelas had them 50 off last week but it was still 450 and a friend of ours got his for less at black sheep and it wasnt on sale, but i think were going out to look around soometime next week :)
Post by: VANANATOR on October 01, 2010, 07:20:28 AM
Post by: MHWASH on October 01, 2010, 07:33:31 AM
yeah cabelas had them 50 off last week but it was still 450 and a friend of ours got his for less at black sheep and it wasnt on sale, but i think were going out to look around soometime next week :)
It appears your in the Spokane area? Try White Elephant.
Post by: FALFire on October 01, 2010, 07:55:15 AM
The downside to the Tikka line is aftermarket goodies, they just aren't to be found. However, if you want an extremely reliable, straight shooter that handles well, then I would certainly suggest a long look at them.
Post by: hunter-4-life on October 01, 2010, 08:04:21 AM
Post by: pat riotic on October 01, 2010, 10:07:57 AM
will do! :)yeah cabelas had them 50 off last week but it was still 450 and a friend of ours got his for less at black sheep and it wasnt on sale, but i think were going out to look around soometime next week :)
It appears your in the Spokane area? Try White Elephant.
Post by: uplandhunter870 on October 01, 2010, 07:00:30 PM
Just bought a new 300 win mag. it came down to the tikka and the 700. I went with the 700. would have been happy with either. couldn't get by the clip on the tikka. The composit seemed kinda plasticy. and it is about $75 to replace, the 700 is about $30-35.i did notice that too (the clip) but the 700 ADL is the one im looking at and it has no clip you just push the bullets in and there is no way other then using the action to get them out which would be a pain if your mooving in and out of a car but i dont think it be that easy to break the clip
i like both its all a matter of personal preference but i just couldnt let this go, kind of a pet peeve, i have an older 700 bdl and yes there is a way to empty the box mag without cycling the bolt and chambering a round everytime, most if not all box mag rifles have a floor plate that is releasable so you can empty the box mag from the bottom the rifle and not chamber each and every round. on all of mine and dads bolt actions there is a release button on the front of the trigger gaurd.
had a FORMER hunting buddy do the cycle the bolt method and ended up touching one off into the rear tire of his truck a mere 3 feet from where i was standing
Post by: Jamieb on October 01, 2010, 11:09:24 PM
Post by: pat riotic on October 01, 2010, 11:13:30 PM
ADL has no botom metal, it's a blind mag and you do have to cycle the bolt to eject each round.yep :)
Post by: pat riotic on October 02, 2010, 02:38:16 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on October 02, 2010, 10:30:57 PM
ADL has no botom metal, it's a blind mag and you do have to cycle the bolt to eject each round.yep :)
well learn something new everyday, cycling the bolt to empty a mag is unsafe in my opinion
sorry bout your moms Pat hope she has a speedy recovery
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 02, 2010, 10:33:05 PM
Post by: pat riotic on October 03, 2010, 05:58:10 PM
sorry about the bum news on your mom.thanks they said if she gets rest on it and puts ice in it every day she will be heeled within 4-6 weeks so it will take while but shes doing fine right now :)
Post by: pat riotic on October 06, 2010, 07:46:46 PM
Tikka group at 200 yards on the white paper and 300 yards on the cardboard. 300 win mag with a lightened trigger and a muzzle brake. Custom handloads precisely loaded. I had to buy a new plastic clip because my brother lost it. Small price to pay for accuracy. I love my tikka.ok i honestly missed your post and never saw the pics i can not argue with that accuracy
Post by: pat riotic on October 17, 2010, 08:51:07 PM
ADL has no botom metal, it's a blind mag and you do have to cycle the bolt to eject each round.yep :)
well learn something new everyday, cycling the bolt to empty a mag is unsafe in my opinion
sorry bout your moms Pat hope she has a speedy recovery
yeah i think its unsafe as well
Post by: pat riotic on October 17, 2010, 08:55:16 PM
Post by: 1bugman on October 17, 2010, 10:00:37 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 17, 2010, 10:20:37 PM
Post by: Gutpile on October 18, 2010, 05:25:53 AM
well guys saturday was the day! we went to cabelas with our 100$ of coupon and bought the tikka t3 light for only 499.99$ we get to go pick up the gun on the 21st unless they call and say we can pick it up earlier im really excited and everyone thanks for all the help in choosing a gun i cant believe it took so long to get but i am happy its here now... well almost :) :)
What caliber?
Post by: pat riotic on October 18, 2010, 07:38:12 AM
30-06well guys saturday was the day! we went to cabelas with our 100$ of coupon and bought the tikka t3 light for only 499.99$ we get to go pick up the gun on the 21st unless they call and say we can pick it up earlier im really excited and everyone thanks for all the help in choosing a gun i cant believe it took so long to get but i am happy its here now... well almost :) :)
What caliber?
Post by: Vek on October 19, 2010, 09:40:56 AM
The blind magazine a la Remington ADL or a select few Winchesters, is the very best system for big game hunting, bar none. It is completely and utterly foolproof. I would never own or hunt with a detachable magazine, and I favor my ADL rifles over my drop floorplate models.
Post by: Jamieb on October 19, 2010, 09:04:58 PM
I might have to load and unload my rifle six times in a day in the area I hunt elk.
A floor plate or DM is just so convenient.
My lightweight hiking rifles are ADL but they get used more on longer hikes when I'm not loading/unloading a bunch in a day.
Post by: Rick on October 20, 2010, 09:29:51 AM
well learn something new everyday, cycling the bolt to empty a mag is unsafe in my opinion
How exactly is cycling the bolt unsafe?
Post by: Bofire on October 20, 2010, 10:38:15 AM
Carl
Post by: Caseyd on October 20, 2010, 10:55:01 AM
Post by: pat riotic on October 21, 2010, 05:34:42 PM
I'd have to agree with the blind mag being foolproof but a lot of guys hunt close to their rig, short hikes and back to the truck, loading when getting out, unloading when getting back to the truck.yeah i mean cycling it isnt a horrible thing but having a clip that you pop in and out in less then a second is so convienient even compared to a floorplate becausr even though i used it before it doesnt compare to having the clip i love my new gun soo much! before i bought it i new the bolt was so smooth but after playing with it for a while if you hold it muzzle up the bolt will literally fall down it is so awesome!
I might have to load and unload my rifle six times in a day in the area I hunt elk.
A floor plate or DM is just so convenient.
My lightweight hiking rifles are ADL but they get used more on longer hikes when I'm not loading/unloading a bunch in a day.