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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Gotm4 on October 05, 2010, 08:47:42 AM

Title: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Gotm4 on October 05, 2010, 08:47:42 AM: So I have been looking at purchasing a Remington 700 in 7mm-08. Problem is I cannot decide between the CDL or the SPS Stainless. I like the wood and feel on the CDL. I like the stainless and not as much of a fan of the stock on the SPS. This would be an all around firearm. I don't need a stainless over a blued and Vice Versa. Does anyone have any experience with either of them. Price is really what is setting it apart. Less for the SPS, but considering $250.00 for a stock upgrade... What do you guys think? Any difference in accuracy, Etc? Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: thinkingman on October 05, 2010, 09:01:47 AM: If you have to have a Remmy, I'd get the Mountain Rifle LSS.
Next would be the CDL.
I do not own any 700's but looked real hard at the Mountain Rifle LSS when I bought my Tikka.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: chevysquid on October 05, 2010, 09:07:50 AM: Stainless looks nice, but can give you away when the sun hits you on a hill side. I'd stay with blued.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: OltHunter on October 05, 2010, 09:40:36 AM: i think the biggest difference is the X-Mark Pro trigger that the CDL has that the SPS doesn't. I absolutely love the adjustable trigger since the factory pulls on the SPS and ADL are way too stiff in my opinion. If you are considering a $250 stock upgrade, I'd go with the CDL, plus Remington is having a $100 rebate right now till Dec. 31.

http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/rebates-and-promotions/Fall-2010-RebateRoundup.aspx (http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/rebates-and-promotions/Fall-2010-RebateRoundup.aspx)

i've always been a remington guy and probably will always be. i of course bought the XCRII before the rebate in .300 win mag and love it. a CDL in 7mm looks to be running $750-$850 so with the $100 off, basically get it tax free plus enough for a box of shells.

just my opinion, i like the corrosion resistance of stainless but not the silver look (which is why i went with the xcrii) and the xmark pro trigger, which i believe is 3.5 lbs factory and feels like a hair pin full compared to sps/adl factory and took me a little bit of getting used to but is much easier to shoot then squeezing what seems like a few seconds before it fires.

i really don't think there will be much difference in accuracy with the different models, just a matter of what you are looking for in looks, feel, and overall craftsmanship.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: spookgus on October 05, 2010, 10:19:40 AM: If you like the wood and feel of the CDL get it. If the price is going keep you from purchasing, then get the SPS matte. If you are going to wish you would have bought the CDL instead of the SPS, save a little more money. I have shot one out of the box SPS in .270 and it shot well. Yes, the SPS has an injection molded stock and plastic trigger guard. Both rifles should put meat in the pot. Either way you might want to pay an hours labor for a trigger job.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 05, 2010, 10:39:09 AM: I have an SPS, not stainless, it's blued. I love that gun. I used to be stuck on wood stocks because they look so much nicer, but now I own several sythetics, and honestly I like not having to worry about nicking the wood stock if I hunt in rough country.
Keeping in mind what oltHunter said though, I would probably go with the CDL if it has the X-Mark trigger. I know that I have to take my rifle to a buddy of mine to adjust the trigger, because I don't trust myself to work on Remmington triggers, and the trigger is a BIG part of your accuracy. The factory set trigger pull on the SPS was definitely too heavy for me. I like to set mine at around 2 lbs.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Gotm4 on October 05, 2010, 10:42:08 AM: Great info, Cost is not a problem with the rifle, I just was not sure of the overall benefits of one over the other, The rebate is a huge plus though!
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 05, 2010, 10:44:32 AM: If cost is not a problem, then I'd go with the CDL, just for the trigger like I said. And this is coming from a guy who owns an SPS and loves it. Can't go wrong with any model of the Remmington 700. You'll probably pass it down to your grandkids and they'll be hunting with it 50 years from now...
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: MADMAX on October 05, 2010, 11:02:49 AM: I really like my XCR
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 05, 2010, 11:30:23 AM: of the 2 you listed the sps. i love wood guns, but prefer a synthetic gun's because i don't worry as much about them :chuckle:
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: ing on October 05, 2010, 11:35:20 AM: CDL
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Alan K on October 05, 2010, 01:06:05 PM: Before you buy it make sure check how well it's seated. I nearly bought one at the Cabela's in Lacey but noticed how cockeyed the barrel was in the stock. I had the guy behind the counter try to slide a paper under the barrel and it would only go about half way. Glad I didn't get burned.

I talked with another guy about them and he said that a lot of the 700's of the last few years have been poorly seated, likely because of some sort of shortcut taken to cut costs at the factory.

They are still fine rifles, just make sure you don't buy one of the lemons. :twocents:
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: demontang on October 05, 2010, 02:38:59 PM: Just a little insight on the stainless. you can paint it whatever color you want in a flat color. When you want it to shin or want a different color just clean it off the barrel :dunno:
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: C-Money on October 05, 2010, 07:00:13 PM: I like the feel of the CDL. I love the walnut stock. :drool:
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: huntandjeep on October 05, 2010, 07:52:08 PM: get the cdl
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Tony 270 on October 05, 2010, 07:57:01 PM: I'd go with the SPS. Contrary to what was said above, it does come with the X Mark Pro trigger. I have one and its there. Also, with that $250 price difference you can buy a different stock for it, like an Alaskan Ti style Bell & Carlson.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Three_Oh_Eight on October 05, 2010, 09:27:52 PM: If you go on Gunbroker, you can find smoking deals on M700 XCRs in 7mm-08. I saw one NIB for $599.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Gotm4 on October 06, 2010, 10:20:25 AM: Quote from: Tony 270 on October 05, 2010, 07:57:01 PM
I'd go with the SPS. Contrary to what was said above, it does come with the X Mark Pro trigger. I have one and its there. Also, with that $250 price difference you can buy a different stock for it, like an Alaskan Ti style Bell & Carlson.

Is this only on the later 2010's or early 2011's. I have not seen that trigger in the SPS, nor is it mentioned being in them on the Remington site?
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: MikeWalking on October 06, 2010, 10:26:15 AM: I've got the SPS Buckmaster. Blued, matte finish, nice enough stock. Still getting used to the feel of a Synthetic. Not the best trigger I've pulled, but good enough to put changing it way down on the To Do list :twocents:
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Tony 270 on October 06, 2010, 04:55:40 PM: Got my SPS early this year so is either a '10 or '09 model I'm guessing. Just looked on their site and maybe they got rid of it on the SPS and are putting it on the more expensive rifles now? :dunno: The SPS info doesn't say it is available, but when looking at the trigger page it says it is now standard on 700 rifles.

http://www.remington.com/sitecore/content/Remington/pages/xmark-pro-trigger.aspx (http://www.remington.com/sitecore/content/Remington/pages/xmark-pro-trigger.aspx)

Same as on mine, don't even need to take it out of the stock to adjust it.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on October 06, 2010, 07:44:42 PM: doesn't the CDL have a longer barrel than most of the other rifles mentioned? i think it's something like 24". might consider a .270 over a 7-08 in that length.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Jamieb on October 06, 2010, 07:46:02 PM: Remington uses the X mark pro triggers in all of the 700's now.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Lightning_Rider on October 06, 2010, 08:42:15 PM: I have a cdl and absolutely love it! i've shot a 8in group at 705yds with berger bullets, not bad considering the gun is bone stock.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Gotm4 on October 06, 2010, 08:51:27 PM: Quote from: Tony 270 on October 06, 2010, 04:55:40 PM
Got my SPS early this year so is either a '10 or '09 model I'm guessing. Just looked on their site and maybe they got rid of it on the SPS and are putting it on the more expensive rifles now? :dunno: The SPS info doesn't say it is available, but when looking at the trigger page it says it is now standard on 700 rifles.

http://www.remington.com/sitecore/content/Remington/pages/xmark-pro-trigger.aspx (http://www.remington.com/sitecore/content/Remington/pages/xmark-pro-trigger.aspx)

Same as on mine, don't even need to take it out of the stock to adjust it.

Great info on the trigger!! I was not aware of that until now!! Thanks.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 06, 2010, 09:22:18 PM: well, then if the SPS comes with the same trigger now, I change my vote to the SPS... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: KimberRich on October 07, 2010, 01:05:00 PM: CDL
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: grizzlyadams on October 07, 2010, 01:32:41 PM: Save your money and put it towards a sako or at least a tikka. Sako 7mm mag with a nightforce scope..........oooooweeee. You'll be sniping you're game from the adjacent ridge. ;)
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Gotm4 on October 07, 2010, 03:05:12 PM: Quote from: grizzlyadams on October 07, 2010, 01:32:41 PM
Save your money and put it towards a sako or at least a tikka. Sako 7mm mag with a nightforce scope..........oooooweeee. You'll be sniping you're game from the adjacent ridge. ;)

Thats good, at least a $2600.00 setup! Sako Love them I have a Finnlight, in 260 rem. Tikka WAAAAAYYY to much plastic for my taste, pretty ugly to boot. Plus I like to get as close as possible before I shoot, less walking to do! But I like the way you think, Maybe I should get both!!!!!
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: woodswalker on October 07, 2010, 05:43:53 PM: Get both...swap the stocks.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: coachcw on October 08, 2010, 09:33:54 PM: I have the sps tactical in 308 and love the way it shoots with fedral 168 barnsx , had to play with the trigger now about 2lbs . the 20 inch barrell shoots well in 308
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: grizzlyadams on October 10, 2010, 08:05:38 AM: Quote from: Gotm4 on October 07, 2010, 03:05:12 PM
Quote from: grizzlyadams on October 07, 2010, 01:32:41 PM
Save your money and put it towards a sako or at least a tikka. Sako 7mm mag with a nightforce scope..........oooooweeee. You'll be sniping you're game from the adjacent ridge. ;)

Thats good, at least a $2600.00 setup! Sako Love them I have a Finnlight, in 260 rem. Tikka WAAAAAYYY to much plastic for my taste, pretty ugly to boot. Plus I like to get as close as possible before I shoot, less walking to do! But I like the way you think, Maybe I should get both!!!!!

Ya it is an expensive setup. Its my dream setup. I went with the tikka t3 300 wm with a Bushnell laser rangefinder scope with the bullet drop compensating turret. Very happy with the setup. Using hornady superformance 165 grain sst's. The laser rangerfinder in the scope is awesome. Just look at the yardage display in the reticle, dial in the distance on your turret, dope your wind and hold dead on. I have to say it works like a dream. I'm still practicing with the the windage, but on a calm day......600 yards is no problem. Have a buddy who's real good with windage who shoots out to 800 with his. Love the action on the tikka. Beautiful trigger pull. Same as the sako......tikka t3 is a great accurate rifle. Its guts are the same as sako, just not as handsome. Way better rifle than any remmy or savage that's for sure. At least in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Gotm4 on October 11, 2010, 09:07:58 AM: All right, I decided this weekend and got it! I went with the 700SPS Stainless, It did have the X-mark pro Trigger. That is what pushed me in that direction. Along with not having to worry about a safe queen with the wood. I put a Vortex Viper 3-9x40 scope on it with leopold rings and bases. $40 rebate on the rifle, lifetime no fault warranty on the scope. I'm pretty happy with the feel so far. I'll be working up some handloads for it soon! Thanks for all of your opinions, ideas and 2 cents!!!!
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 11, 2010, 02:38:40 PM: Quote from: Gotm4 on October 11, 2010, 09:07:58 AM
All right, I decided this weekend and got it! I went with the 700SPS Stainless, It did have the X-mark pro Trigger. That is what pushed me in that direction. Along with not having to worry about a safe queen with the wood. I put a Vortex Viper 3-9x40 scope on it with leopold rings and bases. $40 rebate on the rifle, lifetime no fault warranty on the scope. I'm pretty happy with the feel so far. I'll be working up some handloads for it soon! Thanks for all of your opinions, ideas and 2 cents!!!!

OK, cool. Next post on this thread should be some photos of a target with the center shot out of it... :tup:
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: Tony 270 on October 11, 2010, 03:04:46 PM: Should be a good rifle for you. Mine, with factory ammo, gets less than 3/4MOA at times and has even put a couple through the same hole at 200 yards. Then again I usually screw it up with the third shot, but the rifle can shoot... even if I can't :chuckle:
Title: Re: Which Remington to get?
Post by: 1bugman on October 11, 2010, 03:06:53 PM: :yeah: I seem to shot the same way!