Post by: DBZona on October 06, 2010, 07:54:37 PM
Now for your help, please for goodness sake, help settle the dispute that he and I are having over this deer. There seems to be some debate as to an estimated score on this deer, more importantly regarding the spread this deer has. We also have some debate as to his actual age. We will not tell you what we think. So please, you muley experts out there, tell us what you estimate his:
1. Antler width
2. Total Gross Score
3. Age
4. (for kicks) Dressed Weight.
Enjoy the pics, and if you know of any bigger deer in this unit, please feel free to share that info also. :chuckle:
Post by: DBZona on October 06, 2010, 07:58:02 PM
Post by: runamuk on October 06, 2010, 08:01:35 PM
Post by: boneaddict on October 06, 2010, 08:08:21 PM
Post by: BENCHLEG on October 06, 2010, 08:24:34 PM
Post by: Mudball on October 06, 2010, 08:25:23 PM
Post by: 400out on October 06, 2010, 08:27:27 PM
Post by: jackelope on October 06, 2010, 08:34:39 PM
Post by: Tony 270 on October 06, 2010, 08:40:02 PM
Have a good time out there, hope you don't just focus on inches (not a flame at you).
Post by: jackelope on October 06, 2010, 08:42:06 PM
He looks like a good buck no matter what the score is.
Have a good time out there, hope you don't just focus on inches (not a flame at you).
Thats a good point. I would shoot that buck without even thinking about it with my late permit this year.
Post by: tlbradford on October 06, 2010, 08:45:00 PM
I suck at this for the most part but here's my guess. We'll let the muley junkies chime in. I think he's 28" wide. He's got weak fronts and not real strong backs but he does have long beams and width so I'm gonna say 168ish. I think he's probably 4-5 years old which I would not say is very young. As far as weight goes, I have no clue. I'm really curious to hear what the guys that really know this stuff have to say.
I agree
Post by: DBZona on October 06, 2010, 08:48:23 PM
He looks like a good buck no matter what the score is.
Have a good time out there, hope you don't just focus on inches (not a flame at you).
Not a problem. She is pretty dead set on taking this buck. She believes, and I agree, that there is something special about finding a buck months in advance, seeing him on numurous occasions, and having the opportunity to harvest that buck. To me it shows the respect and admiration she has for this majestic beautiful animal. We just want to see who is closer to being right. :chuckle:
On a side note, has anyone noticed how much bigger he looks in pick 1596 than the other buck. Granted, its a much younger buck, but still...
Post by: jackelope on October 06, 2010, 08:52:47 PM
Post by: hunter-4-life on October 06, 2010, 08:55:20 PM
Post by: DBZona on October 06, 2010, 09:00:31 PM
My guess is 170ish, 26-27 wide, an 4-5 years old.
You dork! You cant guess! Thats Cheating!
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 06, 2010, 09:05:31 PM
Post by: Wyoming08 on October 06, 2010, 09:15:52 PM
Very Nice buck! :drool: He is a nice 27-28" buck. He has very semetrical sides which will help in Official Scoring. His back beams are each 9-10" long, and his fronts are 5-7". He doesn't appear to be very thick horned, but that isn't too big of an issue. I would guess him close to 180". A very nice buck. He will probably field dress at about 225lb. :dunno: After she shoots him, will you let me know how close I am. :dunno:
Post by: blacktailer on October 06, 2010, 10:10:07 PM
Post by: Lowedog on October 06, 2010, 10:36:52 PM
Post by: NWBREW on October 07, 2010, 12:21:50 AM
Post by: Viszla on October 07, 2010, 07:25:43 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 07, 2010, 07:59:51 AM
Post by: THunt on October 07, 2010, 08:17:15 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on October 07, 2010, 08:19:01 AM
Post by: wastickslinger on October 07, 2010, 08:24:52 AM
If she likes him that is all that matters!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 07, 2010, 08:54:39 AM
He's a great buck, and I'd fill my tag on him in any state...
Post by: bushmaster on October 07, 2010, 09:27:35 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 07, 2010, 09:57:21 AM
Post by: coachcw on October 07, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 07, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
29 inch spread , 182 gross , 5 1/2 years old 180 lbs field dressed . If you give him two years he'll be a stomper , no way thats a 160 inch deer .
I'm gonna hold you to that when hunter4life's wife drops the hammer. :chuckle: Best of luck guys and gals landing this fine trophy. :tup:
Post by: bushmaster on October 07, 2010, 12:53:02 PM
Post by: hunter-4-life on October 07, 2010, 02:31:50 PM
Post by: 7mag. on October 07, 2010, 03:12:56 PM
Post by: KimberRich on October 07, 2010, 03:13:28 PM
4 1/2 year old
28 1/4" wide
158 lbs of hanging meat.
Give or take a little.. :chuckle:
Post by: hunter-4-life on October 07, 2010, 03:14:04 PM
Post by: coachcw on October 07, 2010, 03:15:41 PM
Post by: C-Money on October 07, 2010, 03:46:22 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on October 07, 2010, 03:51:04 PM
Post by: Curly on October 07, 2010, 03:55:05 PM
Post by: blacktailer on October 07, 2010, 04:00:07 PM
Post by: coachcw on October 07, 2010, 04:00:40 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 07, 2010, 04:01:56 PM
Wastickslinger, that is a good example of what a 180 buck would look like indeed.
:yeah: He probably gets tired of holding his head up with all that extra weight on there. :o
Post by: autodink13 on October 07, 2010, 04:07:23 PM
Post by: hunter-4-life on October 07, 2010, 04:18:44 PM
Post by: coachcw on October 07, 2010, 05:24:35 PM
Post by: DBZona on October 07, 2010, 06:01:07 PM
I guess I'm laying my balls on the vise we will see , please kill him . Maybe I'm better at judging elk.
Me too! But, I am a couse whitetail hunter from southern arizona, so everything looks big to me. Just one of these days I want to be right instead of hunter4life...may never happen. He is pretty good at this guessing stuff. :chuckle:
Post by: jjhunter on October 07, 2010, 06:03:24 PM
Post by: boneaddict on October 07, 2010, 07:05:26 PM
Post by: haugenna on October 07, 2010, 07:23:57 PM
Why does everyone measure a buck by the outside spread? The inside one is the only one that counts.
Post by: jjhunter on October 07, 2010, 07:32:48 PM
I thought someone dropped you on your head JJ as I was looking at wasstickslingers 180 buck. I rarely get underscored. Then I realized there was another buck in the thread. Yep, a 155 deer and a 180 buck if not 185.
That actually happened...... ;)
Post by: markts on October 07, 2010, 07:38:05 PM
28", body is not huge but the buck is a monster - shoot it and don't look back. Score ? Wouldn't know, wouldn't care. That's just me.:yeah: :bfg:
Post by: 7mag. on October 07, 2010, 07:41:15 PM
165.
Why does everyone measure a buck by the outside spread? The inside one is the only one that counts.
Because when someone asks how wide a buck is, they are talking about the outside spread. I know that it doesn't count towards the score, but it is another way of describing the size of an animal. For some people, width has milestones(like a 30"er) that are as important as score milestones(like a 180"er). I am not as picky, and will shoot anything that I think looks nice.
Post by: coachcw on October 07, 2010, 07:42:50 PM
Post by: Antlerking on October 07, 2010, 07:48:19 PM
Post by: jjhunter on October 07, 2010, 07:55:26 PM
i'd like to see your score sheet if you get 155 , his rear forks look pretty good that second buck i'll bet goes 190-195.
I don't think that is the first time you have questioned my scoring........ :chuckle:
Mass - 32" (real weak here)
MB - 41" (that is generous - the one beam is most likely 19")
G-2 - 28" (14" aside is liberal)
G-3 - 17"
G-4 - 13"
Inside - 22"
If you want to give him a couple for G-1's.......155" gross. Right in that ball park......
Post by: wastickslinger on October 07, 2010, 08:11:57 PM
I thought someone dropped you on your head JJ as I was looking at wasstickslingers 180 buck. I rarely get underscored. Then I realized there was another buck in the thread. Yep, a 155 deer and a 180 buck if not 185.
You call me Wasstickslinger on purpose. >:( :chuckle:
Post by: Antlerking on October 07, 2010, 08:14:22 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on October 07, 2010, 08:15:32 PM
I think that name fits u better. You need 2 change it! :)
funny
Post by: coachcw on October 07, 2010, 08:16:43 PM
Post by: sagerat on October 07, 2010, 08:34:54 PM
25" wide. 154" gross. Really nice buck, but if you are going for score, that front end and mass just kill him.
I think this guy nailed it, but I'd shoot that smaller 4x just for his freakishly long brows, that's how much I love the trash.
Post by: Lowedog on October 07, 2010, 09:42:34 PM
Width is a very low factor on a gross score, dont get me wrong a wide buck looks awsome but the mass measurements make up the major factor followed by main beam lengths and g2 lengths, but none of it matters on this deer he looks awsome and I hope your wife gets a crack at it. That would make some good memories and stories. The day my ol lady shoots a bigger buck than me I will be more happier than if I had shot it :)
You are putting too much credit in mass. Length of main beam and length of points is where score adds up. Granted mass helps but I wouldn't say it is the major factor.
This buck grosses 187 and it doesn't have a lot of mass. (pay no attention to the dork holding the deer)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv136%2FArrogant%2Acensored%2A%2FP9119694.jpg%3Ft%3D1224775022&hash=ead8c790d11284c6e77d9b2a702d0aa6b5549fe3)
Wastickslinger that buck you posted is pushing 190 gross. Where is he?! :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on October 07, 2010, 09:48:25 PM
I hope she gets that buck. I'd hammer it in a heartbeat even at 155.
Post by: wastickslinger on October 08, 2010, 01:31:05 AM
Face it stickslinger, you are a has been.
I will take my ball and go home if you guys dont start playing nice. I bet Casscade hunter would appreciate me on his site.
Post by: wastickslinger on October 08, 2010, 01:32:33 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 08, 2010, 10:10:50 AM
Post by: wastickslinger on October 08, 2010, 10:32:29 AM
Go get him!!!
I am sticking to 168 gross.
Post by: total_intent2kill on October 08, 2010, 10:45:21 AM
Post by: wastickslinger on October 08, 2010, 10:47:36 AM
I Love This Buck! I Can Not Wait To Shoot Him On Sunday! This Buck Seems To Have My Name Written All Over Him! I Am Super Stoked And For All That Are Asking I Really Dont Care What His Size Is I Am Going To Shoot Him Anyways. . . .Unless Of Course Something Bigger Walks Infront Of Me! HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!! :rolleyes:
Good plan!! Good Luck!
Post by: hunter-4-life on October 08, 2010, 10:47:57 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 08, 2010, 10:51:14 AM
Post by: Earshot on October 08, 2010, 11:34:57 AM
Post by: hunter-4-life on October 08, 2010, 11:41:29 AM
Post by: total_intent2kill on October 08, 2010, 11:44:50 AM
Post by: hunter-4-life on October 08, 2010, 11:51:32 AM
Post by: buck wild on October 08, 2010, 03:59:24 PM
Post by: 400out on October 08, 2010, 04:00:54 PM
Post by: Lowedog on October 08, 2010, 06:01:36 PM
lol is that guy a teacher? lol yeah that is huh!
You mean the dork? :chuckle: Yeah, he is a teacher.
Post by: rb2506 on October 08, 2010, 06:22:17 PM
Post by: huntnnw on October 09, 2010, 01:13:15 AM
Post by: Todd_ID on October 09, 2010, 11:40:57 AM
5.5 year old
26.5" spread credit
155" gross
130# of wrapped meat
Good Luck!!!!
Post by: CheyTac on October 09, 2010, 12:25:56 PM
G-2 - 15"+16" - 31"
G-3 - 8"+9" - 17"
G-4 - 7+6" - 13"
Inside - 22"
Mass -31"
154" gross
Post by: autodink13 on October 09, 2010, 01:42:55 PM
M- 24.5 & 21.5
G2- 14.5 &14
G3-9 & 8.5
G4- 5.5 & 5.5
Spread- 23.5
Mass-30
Gross-156.5
I don't think his G1's are a true inch so i didn't give him credit. That hurts his mass a little and obviously a couple inches of length. I figure him just under 160 if those eyeguards are an inch.
Post by: DBZona on October 10, 2010, 12:47:12 PM
Post by: 7mag. on October 10, 2010, 12:51:10 PM
Totalintent shot this buck this morning! Will post pics when we get back. She made a helluva shot!
Sweet! I can't wait to see the pics. Is her mood any better now?
Post by: Curly on October 10, 2010, 12:57:36 PM
Post by: DBZona on October 10, 2010, 01:03:39 PM
Post by: runamuk on October 10, 2010, 01:12:07 PM
Post by: markts on October 10, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 10, 2010, 01:23:38 PM
Post by: DeerHarvester on October 10, 2010, 01:47:16 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on October 10, 2010, 01:58:30 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on October 10, 2010, 02:16:27 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on October 10, 2010, 02:19:40 PM
Mike
Post by: CheyTac on October 10, 2010, 02:29:09 PM
Post by: 400out on October 10, 2010, 02:33:48 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 10, 2010, 08:01:06 PM
Post by: actionshooter on October 10, 2010, 08:34:20 PM
Post by: 1buckdown on October 10, 2010, 09:37:23 PM
Post by: grundy53 on October 10, 2010, 09:40:27 PM
Post by: cowcall on October 10, 2010, 10:06:21 PM
Post by: DBZona on October 10, 2010, 11:39:05 PM
Anyone wanna update there guess before we start posting results?
Total Intent will fill in the details later...
Post by: CheyTac on October 10, 2010, 11:41:37 PM
I'll stick with my estimate.
Post by: 7mag. on October 10, 2010, 11:44:07 PM
Post by: haugenna on October 10, 2010, 11:51:23 PM
169 6/8 high guess
Congrats on a nice buck.
Post by: bowhunterforever on October 10, 2010, 11:55:23 PM
Post by: Curly on October 11, 2010, 05:14:03 AM
Post by: coachcw on October 11, 2010, 06:34:59 AM
Post by: jjhunter on October 11, 2010, 08:17:42 AM
Post by: Widgeondeke on October 11, 2010, 08:28:07 AM
What did he dress out at. How much meat did ya get? That and the fact that she shot a very nice buck is what matters. Bottom line, tag filled.
Post by: banannaclip on October 11, 2010, 08:50:02 AM
Post by: a_bess on October 11, 2010, 08:53:51 AM
Post by: 400out on October 11, 2010, 08:56:07 AM
Post by: runamuk on October 11, 2010, 08:56:30 AM
Post by: gtrplr on October 11, 2010, 08:59:55 AM
173, 29 3/4 wide
Post by: Alchase on October 11, 2010, 09:11:48 AM
Thanks for all the pictures and great job
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 11, 2010, 10:53:52 AM
Post by: borntoslay on October 11, 2010, 10:58:58 AM
Post by: boonerboy on October 11, 2010, 11:04:51 AM
Post by: Wyoming08 on October 11, 2010, 11:11:25 AM
Awesome Job...Now lets see the video!! :yike:
Post by: washingtonmuley on October 11, 2010, 11:18:17 AM
158" gross
4 1/2 years old
Post by: C-Money on October 11, 2010, 11:34:49 AM
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on October 11, 2010, 11:35:18 AM
Post by: total_intent2kill on October 11, 2010, 12:05:17 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 11, 2010, 02:18:17 PM
Thank you to every one! This buck was amazing to hunt! I am working on getting my buck to the taxidermist then will post the story! P.S. the weather was amazing! :P
Glad you had good weather and a great hunt. Now, throw a tape on that thing and settle the spread/score argument before we kill each other... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Congrats on a great buck!
Post by: TeacherMan on October 11, 2010, 03:25:24 PM
Post by: 1buckdown on October 11, 2010, 08:24:28 PM
Post by: tlbradford on October 11, 2010, 08:37:03 PM
Post by: Antlerking on October 11, 2010, 08:38:54 PM
Post by: highside74 on October 11, 2010, 09:02:01 PM
My guess would be 27" maybe 28" and 164
Post by: pat riotic on October 12, 2010, 09:46:34 AM
Post by: bucklucky on October 12, 2010, 11:41:45 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 12, 2010, 11:42:55 AM
Post by: woodywsu on October 12, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
Post by: DBZona on October 12, 2010, 01:25:23 PM
Let's hear the score. 25 1/2" spread for 159 gross
Tonight hopefully we will have the score.
Post by: KeithStone on October 12, 2010, 01:28:57 PM
Post by: VANANATOR on October 13, 2010, 08:59:58 AM
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on October 15, 2010, 07:00:59 AM
Post by: haugenna on October 15, 2010, 05:43:55 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on October 17, 2010, 02:07:54 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 17, 2010, 04:55:27 AM
159" net
7 1/2 y.o.
175 lb dressed
Post by: Bigshooter on October 17, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Post by: fly4fish on October 18, 2010, 08:32:41 AM
Post by: MichaelJ on October 25, 2010, 11:47:06 AM
Mike
Post by: tlbradford on October 25, 2010, 02:13:52 PM
great job! It was a heck of a hunt and and a heck of a deer, I appreciate you letting me come great shooting! my guess is 164 and 28 wide ;D
Is this the answer? I just assumed it was since he was there. :dunno:
Post by: DBZona on October 25, 2010, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on October 25, 2010, 11:28:16 PM
Mike