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Title: Cookin in the sun
Post by: boneaddict on October 25, 2010, 10:45:38 AM
Posting these for WDFWSUX.....  Wenatchee yesterday.
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Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: boneaddict on October 25, 2010, 10:45:59 AM
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Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 25, 2010, 10:48:27 AM
So by my estimation the buck was on his second day with a hide still on... all of the exposed flesh  by the belly incision was like jerky...at first  I thought road kill but it had a tag on it...soooo :yike:

My truck said it was 61 when I took the pic... I followed them most of the way down 97 from pateros to Wenatchee....
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: mebco09 on October 25, 2010, 10:48:37 AM
Were these Mexi-crusiers?
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 25, 2010, 10:50:02 AM
Were these Mexi-crusiers?

No they were white dudes... they gave each other a fist bump when I took the pic.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: boneaddict on October 25, 2010, 10:50:37 AM
Yum.   
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: wastickslinger on October 25, 2010, 10:52:28 AM
And people wonder why their wives and freinds hate to eat venison and they all think it tastes like crap. Thats cause most people dont care for their meat like it should be.
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: boonerboy on October 25, 2010, 10:59:10 AM
 :chuckle: man, people are amazing!
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: woodswalker on October 25, 2010, 11:06:18 AM
OH that is going to be NASTY venison.... :bash:

I sure dont get treating the critter that way after going to all that work...  in my camps they get hung in the shade, undresssed and cleaned, bagged and wait at least one overnight to chill them...then transported back tucked under the canopy or sheltered from the weather, still bagged in a game bag and often wrapped in a blanket or sleeping bag to protect from the heat.

Mine have always tasted JUST FINE!  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: luvtohnt on October 25, 2010, 11:18:59 AM
Turn them in for Wanton waste!

Brandon
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: toothfangclaw on October 25, 2010, 11:46:47 AM
Excuse my ignorance, but clearly bucky wasn't going inside the family hauler. So what should they have done? If you hunting within a short drive in from home. You don't have a "camp" to hang and skin and quarter.  So, what do you do?
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: NWBREW on October 25, 2010, 11:48:29 AM
Excuse my ignorance, but clearly bucky wasn't going inside the family hauler. So what should they have done? If you hunting within a short drive in from home. You don't have a "camp" to hang and skin and quarter.  So, what do you do?



If you have a knife to gut him then you can bone it out and put in a cooler. Don't just go out hunting if your not prepared.
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: luvtohnt on October 25, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
Lay it on a tarp inside the van or better yet do as NWBREW said and bone it out and put it in a cooler!!

Brandon
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: Hunterman on October 25, 2010, 11:55:41 AM
Maybe they are thinking that if they drive around long enough the hide will just blow off  :drool: :drool:

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: boneaddict on October 25, 2010, 11:56:56 AM
You don't need a camp to skin and quarter.  A flat spot off the side of  the road works just fine.  I tend to do it hanging from a cliff at 7,000 feet, so I know it doesn't take much. The hide is going to hold the heat in.   It will most certainly bone sour on you.  A short drive might be excusable, but Pateros to Seattle isn't a short drive.  
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: boneaddict on October 25, 2010, 11:58:21 AM
or go to a "local" butcher shop.   It will cost you to have them take care of it for you but if you don't know how, then you should probably be willing to pay for it. 

The ones I love are the ones strapped on the motor.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on October 25, 2010, 11:59:26 AM
Whats sad is that there are people that were just never taught or don't know proper field care.  
  
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: NWBREW on October 25, 2010, 12:01:22 PM
Whats sad is that there are people that were just never taught or don't know proper field care.  
  



That is very true Michelle.
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: boneaddict on October 25, 2010, 12:01:31 PM
Its why we are here Michelle...to get all the stragglers
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: toothfangclaw on October 25, 2010, 12:28:18 PM
Its why we are here Michelle...to get all the stragglers

Yup! I am learning! :cool:

Looks like I am going to post up my own topic. Don't want to thread Jack more then I have.
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: boneaddict on October 25, 2010, 12:30:12 PM
Good honest questions are always welcome. 
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: tshoote30 on October 25, 2010, 12:33:33 PM
I am not/have not gutted and field dressed alot of animals YET but this just seems very wrong to me. does this qualify for a darwin award???  :dunno:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: teanawayslayer on October 25, 2010, 12:42:30 PM
I went over to the chiwawa last week to visit some buddies hunting over there.  On my way there I saw a buck on top of a load of sh-- coming back from there camp.  Hide still on.  On the way home same thing different rig.  What do people think.  These idiots probably wonder why they never get a deer that tastes worth a damn.  Well look on the thread chelan county success.  Two bucks in the back of a ford explorer.  One deer shot on friday and the day they took the pic was on sunday. They both had hides on.  I just don't get it :bash:http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59883.0.html
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: woodswalker on October 25, 2010, 12:46:28 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but clearly bucky wasn't going inside the family hauler. So what should they have done? If you hunting within a short drive in from home. You don't have a "camp" to hang and skin and quarter.  So, what do you do?

 :yike: Do it at the side of the road where you drove up to pick it UP.  At LEAST quarter it and get it on ice in coolers...if you have maybe an hour longer BONE THE THING OUT....its NOT that hard to do and will leave you with tasty meat instead of something NASTY.   :bash:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: uncoolperson on October 25, 2010, 12:49:47 PM
I am not/have not gutted and field dressed alot of animals YET but this just seems very wrong to me. does this qualify for a darwin award???  :dunno:

only if the drive through vail like that.
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 25, 2010, 12:50:22 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59883.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59883.0.html)

bummer...


That mini van was 5 cars ahead of me and I thought it was a deer but didnt think there was any way so i grabbed my binos to check and shure enough I almost drove off the Rd into the columbia.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: mebco09 on October 25, 2010, 01:03:54 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but clearly bucky wasn't going inside the family hauler. So what should they have done? If you hunting within a short drive in from home. You don't have a "camp" to hang and skin and quarter.  So, what do you do?

Try coolers and a little time to bone it out.  Put it on ice inside the mommy van.  Coolers big enough for a deer are 60 bucks.  If you dont have a camp,  Bring a tarp, lay it on the ground to keep dirt off and go to work.  

Nevermind all this has been said before.  Should have read all the other posts.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: mebco09 on October 25, 2010, 01:21:46 PM
Ok, what I don't get is:

1.  How people like this are sucessful.  Looking at the Chelan success thread, those guys took 2 good bucks in a tough area, then did a piss poor job of taking care of the meat.  It was like they did 1/2 a hunt and called it good. 

2.  How people like this think what they are doing is OK?  "How to" meat care is all over the internet.  Skinning takes no time, there are even ways to do it with your pickup.  If you don't know, ask.
 
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 25, 2010, 01:25:14 PM
I do it on the tail gate...really easy. :dunno:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: YellowDog on October 25, 2010, 01:30:57 PM
Well, I don't have picture to show you but on Sunday of the opening modern firearm deer season this year I was driving over I-90 from the Yakima area and had the misfortune of driving by a newer bright yellow jeep (the small two door model with no cargo space) and as I approached to pass I saw deer legs hanging off the drivers side of the hood.  I thought WTF are you kidding me.  Sure enough, two guys were rolling down the highway with their trophy (a nice 4x4 muley) gutted, laying on some kind of blanket, hide on, body cavity facing forward, legs sprawled out sticking off both sides of the hood, cooking their venison with the heat of the engine as they drove home on a 60+ degree afternoon.  Made me sick. 
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 25, 2010, 01:36:47 PM
Wow... :o
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: teanawayslayer on October 25, 2010, 01:43:32 PM
they definetly give us a bad name.  People just don't think.  Like its a game or something
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: Elkpiss on October 25, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
If you got to haul the deer out with the hide on no problem as long as its not to long of a drive, but leaving the hide on a deer for mutiple days??? :dunno: I seen that this last week and it blew my mind!.. :dunno:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: bearhunter99 on October 25, 2010, 02:18:34 PM
I just don't get it, I guess Ron White was right, "you can't fix stupid"  I have seen deer camps with deer hanging from a TREE or MEAT POLE that still had their hides on for a couple of days or more.  What do they think, the added insulation will keep them cooler??  :DOH:  :DOH: :DOH: :DOH: :DOH: :DOH:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: Seatown5 on October 25, 2010, 02:46:15 PM
you never know what the situation is.  Last year we caravaned with a suburban and a truck.  The truck left on the last morning and my buddy smoked a buck when we pulled back into camp a couple hours later. It wasnt what we planned on doing but you have to improvise.  we gutted it, drug it to the top of the burban and bailed.
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: patton1 on October 25, 2010, 04:41:10 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59883.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59883.0.html)
For the 2 of you who posted this link to try and make the gentlemen look bad, you should go back and recheck their replies.  I don't think it's too cool reposting someonelse's stories trying to make them look bad, especially if you don't have the facts.  Just Saying! :dunno:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 25, 2010, 05:00:37 PM
must be a grammar issue....
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: Hyde on October 25, 2010, 05:04:21 PM
Those are the same guys you saw at Cabelas Friday night before opening day getting their new rifle and scope.   These are also the same guys who shoot 3 boxes of ammo before they realize they may need to fine tune their freshly "bore-sighted" rifles.  And.... yes, these are the same guys who set up a shooting range at camp in the middle of hunting season and blaze away.  Pilgrims.  

I'm not sure where it comes from, but I never understood people who leave the hides on the animal for a few days if not week after the kill.  Maybe back east where it never gets above 30 degrees in hunting season, but out west here, I was taught to gut immediately, and get the hide off as quick as possible, but NEVER more than a few hours.  If it's going to be a few hours, open the arm pits up to let the heat escape (especially on elk).  When I was stationed in Northern California, some of my buddies killed a few deer and asked me to come help butcher a week later.  When I arrived, the frickin hides were still on the deer, and they had then encased in some of those "cheesecloth" 99 cent Walmart deer bags.  The maggots were falling off the damn things and the smell was unimaginable.  I asked these puddknockers what they were thinking... they said that's how they do it "back home" in Alabama.  I asked them if it is 75 degrees in deer season back home.  They got the point.  That was a shame.  
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: patton1 on October 25, 2010, 05:19:44 PM
must be a grammar issue....
???????
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: jackelope on October 25, 2010, 05:23:44 PM
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Maybe back east where it never gets above 30 degrees in hunting season

Back east we used to leave the hide on them for a week. Like you said it's dang cold then back there. We also didn't use game bags and we didn't quarter deer in the field ever.
That's a different world of hunting back there though.
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: Gutpile on October 25, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
And people wonder why their wives and freinds hate to eat venison and they all think it tastes like crap. Thats cause most people dont care for their meat like it should be.

Thats exactly right. I simply will not eat anybody's venison unless I feel like they know at least a little about taking care of the meat. We saw a lot of that in Wyoming.
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: woodswalker on October 25, 2010, 05:56:29 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but clearly bucky wasn't going inside the family hauler. So what should they have done? If you hunting within a short drive in from home. You don't have a "camp" to hang and skin and quarter.  So, what do you do?

You can if there is ROOM, put down a tarp and load it up. :twocents:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: WARHORSE on October 25, 2010, 05:57:19 PM
i almost stopped at took a pic of that same van in wilber yesterday morn. it was stopped at a gas station
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: hunterbuilder on October 25, 2010, 06:06:29 PM
i almost stopped at took a pic of that same van in wilber yesterday morn. it was stopped at a gas station

Wow, if you saw it in Wilbur and the guy who took the pic followed it from Pateros, it came a long ways!
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: Lowedog on October 25, 2010, 06:09:42 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59883.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59883.0.html)

bummer...


That mini van was 5 cars ahead of me and I thought it was a deer but didnt think there was any way so i grabbed my binos to check and shure enough I almost drove off the Rd into the columbia.. :chuckle:

Not sure why you linked to that thread?  :dunno:

My wife saw that van in Leavenworth yesterday. 
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 25, 2010, 06:42:57 PM
i almost stopped at took a pic of that same van in wilber yesterday morn. it was stopped at a gas station

Wow, if you saw it in Wilbur and the guy who took the pic followed it from Pateros, it came a long ways!

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My wife saw that van in Leavenworth yesterday.


Yikes!

It was snowing on the pass on highway 2.... I guess that cooled it down a little... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: bighorns2bushytails on October 25, 2010, 08:25:42 PM
i pack some frozen water bottles (lots of them) that i can stuff into the cavity if i worry at all about not being able to get the hide off right away.  not everyones a savvy hunter and every non savvy hunter gets a deer from time to time. while its a shame they will live and learn when and if they become savvy hunters or theyll continue to eat bad meat if theyre just not that 'into it'.  its the way of the world....

--bh2bt
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: shedcrazy on October 25, 2010, 09:28:37 PM
And people wonder why their wives and freinds hate to eat venison and they all think it tastes like crap. Thats cause most people dont care for their meat like it should be.
:yeah: :iamwithstupid:
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: highmuley on November 05, 2010, 11:05:06 AM
Yep. Dress, skin and quarter in the field is all of 30 - 45 minutes in the field (if that).
Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: 724wd on November 05, 2010, 12:50:41 PM
why can't you put it in the family hauler?   :chuckle:

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Title: Re: Cookin in the sun
Post by: tralam on November 05, 2010, 01:32:15 PM
Nice deer. More pics please.
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