Post by: singleshot12 on November 01, 2010, 04:30:29 PM
Post by: Lowedog on November 01, 2010, 04:37:51 PM
Then I'll just wait and :peep: :chuckle:
Post by: jason4429 on November 01, 2010, 04:38:06 PM
Post by: ELKBURGER on November 01, 2010, 04:58:43 PM
Post by: bankwalker on November 01, 2010, 05:00:46 PM
Post by: bucklucky on November 01, 2010, 05:21:16 PM
Post by: archery288 on November 01, 2010, 05:23:38 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on November 01, 2010, 05:23:44 PM
Post by: BENCHLEG on November 01, 2010, 05:24:05 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on November 01, 2010, 05:38:59 PM
Wow! more info and more pics!
Yeah if I get more info and pics I'll post,that pic is pretty fuzzy.. I do know the area it was killed and have hunted that area and plan on hunting it in the future so you know how that goes, I'm sure that some of you recognize that gene pool though and know where it came from ;)
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 01, 2010, 05:42:56 PM
Post by: robescc on November 01, 2010, 05:44:47 PM
Another pic of it.
Post by: Lowedog on November 01, 2010, 05:47:45 PM
The guy saw it get hit by a car and watched it go up the hill and lay down. He was on his way to work and couldn't have a gun on company property so he went to the nearest house and got a 30-30 from there. He walked up and shot it. I will leave names out of it. It is a big dear though.
Probably a good idea to leave names out of it.
Post by: saylean on November 01, 2010, 05:48:59 PM
Post by: ser300wsm on November 01, 2010, 06:09:39 PM
Post by: mulehunter on November 01, 2010, 06:18:53 PM
Mulehunter
Post by: Houndhunter on November 01, 2010, 06:20:31 PM
Post by: PacificNWhunter on November 01, 2010, 06:25:37 PM
Post by: ouchfoss on November 01, 2010, 07:00:40 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on November 01, 2010, 07:12:16 PM
The guy saw it get hit by a car and watched it go up the hill and lay down. He was on his way to work and couldn't have a gun on company property so he went to the nearest house and got a 30-30 from there. He walked up and shot it. I will leave names out of it. It is a big dear though.
Another pic of it.
Interesting.. Doesn't really count then, still a heck of a deer and it sounds as if he didn't do anything wrong since he tagged it and all.
Post by: Lowedog on November 01, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
The guy saw it get hit by a car and watched it go up the hill and lay down. He was on his way to work and couldn't have a gun on company property so he went to the nearest house and got a 30-30 from there. He walked up and shot it. I will leave names out of it. It is a big dear though.
Another pic of it.
Interesting.. Doesn't really count then, still a heck of a deer and it sounds as if he didn't do anything wrong since he tagged it and all.
Except for the orange thing... :chuckle: :devil: :stirthepot:
Post by: singleshot12 on November 01, 2010, 07:20:54 PM
Post by: backyard bucks on November 01, 2010, 07:21:51 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on November 01, 2010, 07:23:10 PM
Post by: SuperDave on November 01, 2010, 07:23:53 PM
Post by: nontypical176 on November 01, 2010, 07:28:28 PM
Post by: Lowedog on November 01, 2010, 07:29:27 PM
Never fails does it? :rolleyes:
I just figured if we are going to ridicule the guy with the flashlight on his bow then why would anyone else be exempt? :dunno: :)
Post by: doekillrssuck on November 01, 2010, 08:14:03 PM
Post by: Sneekee23 on November 02, 2010, 12:45:17 AM
Post by: Tree Killer on November 02, 2010, 05:33:49 AM
You know they're cruising for tail when bucks like that are coming out of the woodwork and getting clipped on the highway.
Post by: krout81 on November 02, 2010, 06:10:11 AM
Post by: Swag on November 02, 2010, 06:30:18 AM
Post by: Hornseeker on November 02, 2010, 06:50:56 AM
Post by: MuleySniper on November 02, 2010, 07:09:06 AM
That buck definitely fits into the hawg category!
You know they're cruising for tail when bucks like that are coming out of the woodwork and getting clipped on the highway.
:yeah:
I always have to drive carefully out by my house this time of the year. There are some bruisers on this island.
MS
Post by: croix on November 02, 2010, 07:30:12 AM
HOLY *!$@%$*& !!!!!!!!! That is huge!
:yeah:
Post by: elkslare on November 02, 2010, 12:58:37 PM
Post by: bowtech721 on November 02, 2010, 01:20:56 PM
Post by: scout88 on November 02, 2010, 01:53:18 PM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 02, 2010, 01:56:11 PM
Serously: observed an accident and not only didn't report it as a witness to a (hit and run?), broke the law by taking game downed by a vehicle (doesn't have to be dead game, just fatally injured) without calling it in as well, as required. Went a broke company rules about firearm's anyways? It's like dumb and dumber around here this season, good call Lowedog. I'll give credit for a nice deer when it's earned, anyone can run one over with a car and tag it, essentially what happened here. Not that I agree with the State law, but a law is a law, get it changed if you don't want to play by the rules. I hope someone at least took the time to see if the people that hit it were OK.
Post by: hogsniper on November 02, 2010, 02:07:24 PM
Really tho lets just pic apart every animal posted on this site and maybe we can just have political and racial issues to discuss!
Post by: dscubame on November 02, 2010, 02:11:09 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on November 02, 2010, 02:31:34 PM
Post by: Bearhunter on November 02, 2010, 02:44:52 PM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on November 02, 2010, 03:04:38 PM
Joe
Post by: raekmike on November 02, 2010, 03:21:01 PM
Post by: Lowedog on November 02, 2010, 04:43:19 PM
Awesome buck!
Post by: Tman on November 02, 2010, 06:11:02 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on November 02, 2010, 08:08:51 PM
Post by: robescc on November 02, 2010, 08:31:56 PM
Buck scored 142 gross, and netted 135ish, a beautiful buck to say the least. Also there was nothing that he did wrong, he was on his way home from work. Who gives a Rats ass, ARM CHAIR GAME WARDENS!!!!!
I am not trying or claim to be an ARM CHAIR GAME WARDEN. I do believe the guy who posted the pic said he didn't know the story behind it. I do so I told it. I probably would have done the same thing as he did.
Post by: Bobm on November 02, 2010, 08:37:26 PM
That's all that matters.
Post by: raekmike on November 02, 2010, 09:19:45 PM
Post by: Bearhunter on November 03, 2010, 05:52:38 AM
Post by: robescc on November 03, 2010, 06:10:35 AM
Post by: Curly on November 03, 2010, 07:43:54 AM
Post by: wastickslinger on November 03, 2010, 08:08:09 AM
Post by: singleshot12 on November 03, 2010, 08:09:54 AM
You guys are funny! :chuckle:
Awesome buck!
What's funny but not "ha ha funny" is when some of you speculate,judge and try to spin something that you are obviously green with envy about. Would you comment the same about a dink?
Although not harvested in fair chase he did the right thing. Be happy that such a magnificent animal was used and not wasted.
Post by: singleshot12 on November 03, 2010, 08:12:59 AM
I though you could legally tag a buck that was hit if the season is open and you have the appropriate tag. I dont think I owuld do it but I though it was legal. :dunno:
It is..
Post by: Lowedog on November 03, 2010, 08:22:52 AM
You guys are funny! :chuckle:
Awesome buck!
What's funny but not "ha ha funny" is when some of you speculate,judge and try to spin something that you are obviously green with envy about. Would you comment the same about a dink?
Although not harvested in fair chase he did the right thing. Be happy that such a magnificent animal was used and not wasted.
What's funny is when someone actually hunts and shoots his 10 point blacktail he is ridiculed so bad he leaves this site or when a father is so proud of how his son guided another hunter to a nice buck he is hammered about hunters orange and then with an incident like this no one is supposed to say a thing about the little details. :rolleyes:
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 08:25:15 AM
I though you could legally tag a buck that was hit if the season is open and you have the appropriate tag. I dont think I owuld do it but I though it was legal. :dunno:
It is..
Talk about misinformation, it is completely, totally illegal to keep road kill in Washington State. There's no gray area, it's in the State Code.
Post by: bigdave on November 03, 2010, 08:28:14 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2010, 08:30:55 AM
Talk about misinformation, it is completely, totally illegal to keep road kill in Washington State. There's no gray area, it's in the State Code.
This was not "road kill." At least if the story posted was correct. The deer was hit by a car but not killed. He killed it with a rifle. So it's legal. He shot it and tagged it.
I would have done the same. Yes, even if I didn't have any orange. :o
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 08:49:32 AM
To each their own. If it was reported and police showed up, do you really think they would debate whether or not the deer was "dead", or "dying"? What about shooting next to a County maintained road? If the deer was healthy enough to travel well off the County Road, then it likely didn't require being put down. Some see big horns and don't question, just congratulate. Everyone's different in that respect.Talk about misinformation, it is completely, totally illegal to keep road kill in Washington State. There's no gray area, it's in the State Code.
This was not "road kill." At least if the story posted was correct. The deer was hit by a car but not killed. He killed it with a rifle. So it's legal. He shot it and tagged it.
I would have done the same. Yes, even if I didn't have any orange. :o
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2010, 08:57:56 AM
Post by: Lowedog on November 03, 2010, 09:03:26 AM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 09:04:30 AM
I'm just going by the short story that was posted. I don't know how accurate it is, but it was said that the deer was hit by a car and then "walked up the hill and layed down." So it didn't sound to me like it was still within the county road right of way. If it wasn't hurt bad enough to require being "put down" so what? It's deer season, he had a tag, he killed it with a legal weapon and a legal area (as far as I know) and if it wasn't going to die from being hit by the car, it may have died of old age this winter. It's good a hunter was able to take the buck and it's good that the meat will be used. :twocents:
Maybe your right and I'm being too critical.
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2010, 09:07:39 AM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 09:09:06 AM
Heck, even if it wasn't deer season, it was at night, and it was within the maintained portion of the road, I wouldn't have a problem with it. The right thing to do is to end an animal's suffering ASAP.
I'd like to see the law changed and this is a good example of why it should be. Many States are changing road hit/ kill laws to allow tagging. I do agree they shouldn't suffer (if that is the case in any situation).
Post by: blacktailer on November 03, 2010, 09:43:55 AM
Post by: Curly on November 03, 2010, 09:55:17 AM
Though only a couple people know the real details, I would say that this is a classic case of using common sense. Legal or not, I commend the guy for finishing off a deer and putting his tag on it. I am not promoting illegal hunting activity because the laws are laws; but when they do away with all common sense, screw them and do what your gut tells you. If your conscience is good with it, go for it. If the gamie shows up and tickets you for such an offense, be prepared to pay the fine and still feel good about what you did.
:yeah:
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Though only a couple people know the real details, I would say that this is a classic case of using common sense. Legal or not, I commend the guy for finishing off a deer and putting his tag on it. I am not promoting illegal hunting activity because the laws are laws; but when they do away with all common sense, screw them and do what your gut tells you. If your conscience is good with it, go for it. If the gamie shows up and tickets you for such an offense, be prepared to pay the fine and still feel good about what you did.
I would agree with you for 1/2 of it. The other half, for those of us who have lost loved ones in car accident's/ hit and runs our first priority would have been to either make sure the victim as OK, or if it was a hit and run, report it so that a drunk doesn't hit and kill a person around the next corner.
Post by: Curly on November 03, 2010, 10:27:19 AM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 10:29:15 AM
Post by: Curly on November 03, 2010, 10:30:19 AM
Post by: dscubame on November 03, 2010, 10:36:22 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2010, 10:36:48 AM
I would agree with you for 1/2 of it. The other half, for those of us who have lost loved ones in car accident's/ hit and runs our first priority would have been to either make sure the victim as OK, or if it was a hit and run, report it so that a drunk doesn't hit and kill a person around the next corner.
??? :o :bash:
(No comment necessary) Honestly I don't know what to say to this.
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 10:40:38 AM
I would agree with you for 1/2 of it. The other half, for those of us who have lost loved ones in car accident's/ hit and runs our first priority would have been to either make sure the victim as OK, or if it was a hit and run, report it so that a drunk doesn't hit and kill a person around the next corner.
??? :o :bash:
(No comment necessary) Honestly I don't know what to say to this.
Why is mandatory accident reporting so hard to understand? :dunno:
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2010, 10:43:23 AM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 10:47:12 AM
Post by: Dadbear on November 03, 2010, 10:50:28 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 03, 2010, 10:51:29 AM
Post by: dscubame on November 03, 2010, 10:54:06 AM
Post by: bigdave on November 03, 2010, 10:58:11 AM
Post by: Curly on November 03, 2010, 11:12:04 AM
Damn, with all the saintly people on here :rolleyes: I'm looking like a bad boy more and more everyday!! I'm OK with it though, chicks dig the bad boys. 8)
:chuckle: :chuckle: Thanks, I needed a chuckle :).
Post by: Wile E. Hunter on November 03, 2010, 11:14:11 AM
:rolleyes:WOW. I've never seen an uninjured car in a deer collision, and I've seen more than a few. Bobcat, if you carry insurance in the State of Washington, which you have to in order to drive, you are required by law to report it even if you hit a tree, or an inanimate object, let alone a living animal. You are also required to wait until an officer arrives, one most people don't follow I know, but it's still the law. This is my entire point. If an officer showed up and said yes, go ahead and dispatch the deer I'd have absolutely no problem with it, cripe.
You need to take a Midol. Nothing that was described in the killing of this deer was in the wrong. To the contrary, I think it's commendable he took the initiative to go "borrow a 30-30"? I am still surprised that somebody would just lend out a rifle, but I'm glad they did. I think a lot of people would've just driven by. I think it's further commendable that he took his tag (I'll remind you most of us only get one per year) and used it on this deer so that it wouldn't go to waste, thereby ending his opportunity to hunt. I consider this something of a sacrifice, as I would MUCH RATHER hunt a deer, and shoot it in fair chase than use my tag on a dispatched deer at the roadside. In short, you're criticizing this guy, I'd buy him a beer. :twocents:
Wile E.
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on November 03, 2010, 11:21:14 AM
Post by: Bearhunter on November 03, 2010, 12:39:03 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on November 03, 2010, 01:10:18 PM
Oh and by the way - Great deer!
Post by: coachcw on November 03, 2010, 01:17:35 PM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 01:51:31 PM
Collision reporting
* If a law enforcement officer investigates the collision, you don’t need to complete a collision report. The investigating officer will file the collision report. However, you always have the option of filing a report.
* If no law enforcement officer investigates the collision, each driver involved in the collision must submit a report within 4 days of the collision. You can get collision report forms from your local police department, county sheriff’s office, or Washington State Patrol detachment.
What collision information goes on a driving record
We add the following collision information to the driving record of all drivers involved in collisions where there was bodily injury or at least $700 in property damage to any one person’s property:
* the collision date.
* the number of vehicles involved.
* whether the vehicles were legally parked or moving.
* whether the vehicles were occupied at the time of the collision.
* whether the collision resulted in any injury or fatality.
The collision information on the driving record only indicates the person was involved in a collision, not that they were “at fault” or caused the collision.
How to get a copy of a collision report
If you were involved in a collision and would like a copy of the collision report you or a law enforcement officer completed, you may request a copy from the Washington State Patrol.
How to get collision information from your driving record
If you have questions about the collision information on your driving record, send us an email or letter with the following information:
* Your full name and date of birth.
* Collision date.
* Mailing address, phone number, or email address where you want us to respond.
* Your questions.
Please send your email to intaccinq@dol.wa.gov, or mail your letter to:
Accident Processing Unit
Department of Licensing
PO Box 9030
Olympia, WA 98507-9030
How to request another driver’s insurance information
If you have been in a collision and were injured or received a minimum of $700 in property damage, you may request any information we have on record showing the other driver or vehicle owner’s proof of insurance.
The fee for this information is $10. Please send us a written request with the following information:
* Name of the driver and/or vehicle owner
* Driver or vehicle owner’s date of birth and driver license number (if known)
* Date of collision
* Collision report number
Mail your request with a check or money order for the fee to:
Accident Processing Unit
Department of Licensing
PO Box 9048
Olympia, WA 98507-9048
How to report uncompensated damages from a collision
If an uninsured driver fails to pay collision damages, you may report it to us by completing a Adobe PDF iconMotor Vehicle Collision Claim for Damages within 180 days of the collision. To qualify, the collision must have resulted in at least $700 in property damages or an injury. If the uninsured driver fails to pay, we could suspend their driver license.
Related laws
* RCW 46.52.030: Accident reports
* WAC 446-85-010: Accident reporting threshold
* RCW 46.52.130(6): Abstract of driving record — Access — Fees — Penalty
* RCW 46.29.050(2): Furnishing driving record and evidence of ability to respond in damages — Fees
My final comment's on this most uneducated thread I've ever read on this site. As one of the first few dozen folks on this site, every year I've noticed more and more "hunters" joining who only care about killing a big buck, regardless of circumstance, or ethics. I can't relate to you and frankly, people like you have made me ponder quitting hunting more than once. This site used to be a place where adult's could disagree reasonably.
Post by: Wile E. Hunter on November 03, 2010, 01:58:03 PM
Collision reporting
* If a law enforcement officer investigates the collision, you don’t need to complete a collision report. The investigating officer will file the collision report. However, you always have the option of filing a report.
* If no law enforcement officer investigates the collision, each driver involved in the collision must submit a report within 4 days of the collision. You can get collision report forms from your local police department, county sheriff’s office, or Washington State Patrol detachment.
What collision information goes on a driving record
We add the following collision information to the driving record of all drivers involved in collisions where there was bodily injury or at least $700 in property damage to any one person’s property:
* the collision date.
* the number of vehicles involved.
* whether the vehicles were legally parked or moving.
* whether the vehicles were occupied at the time of the collision.
* whether the collision resulted in any injury or fatality.
The collision information on the driving record only indicates the person was involved in a collision, not that they were “at fault” or caused the collision.
How to get a copy of a collision report
If you were involved in a collision and would like a copy of the collision report you or a law enforcement officer completed, you may request a copy from the Washington State Patrol.
How to get collision information from your driving record
If you have questions about the collision information on your driving record, send us an email or letter with the following information:
* Your full name and date of birth.
* Collision date.
* Mailing address, phone number, or email address where you want us to respond.
* Your questions.
Please send your email to intaccinq@dol.wa.gov, or mail your letter to:
Accident Processing Unit
Department of Licensing
PO Box 9030
Olympia, WA 98507-9030
How to request another driver’s insurance information
If you have been in a collision and were injured or received a minimum of $700 in property damage, you may request any information we have on record showing the other driver or vehicle owner’s proof of insurance.
The fee for this information is $10. Please send us a written request with the following information:
* Name of the driver and/or vehicle owner
* Driver or vehicle owner’s date of birth and driver license number (if known)
* Date of collision
* Collision report number
Mail your request with a check or money order for the fee to:
Accident Processing Unit
Department of Licensing
PO Box 9048
Olympia, WA 98507-9048
How to report uncompensated damages from a collision
If an uninsured driver fails to pay collision damages, you may report it to us by completing a Adobe PDF iconMotor Vehicle Collision Claim for Damages within 180 days of the collision. To qualify, the collision must have resulted in at least $700 in property damages or an injury. If the uninsured driver fails to pay, we could suspend their driver license.
Related laws
* RCW 46.52.030: Accident reports
* WAC 446-85-010: Accident reporting threshold
* RCW 46.52.130(6): Abstract of driving record — Access — Fees — Penalty
* RCW 46.29.050(2): Furnishing driving record and evidence of ability to respond in damages — Fees
My final comment's on this most uneducated thread I've ever read on this site. As one of the first few dozen folks on this site, every year I've noticed more and more "hunters" joining who only care about killing a big buck, regardless of circumstance, or ethics. I can't relate to you and frankly, people like you have made me ponder quitting hunting more than once. This site used to be a place where adult's could disagree reasonably.
Well, the other driver.. the deer, was KILLED! I wasn't there, don't know either of them, but I'll profile the deer and guess he was uninsured. Likely he was also.... unlicensed!
Don't ya get it? What you posted refers to collisions between vehicles, not deer! As Foghorn Leghorn would've aptly put it, "I keep pitchin' 'em, you keep missin' 'em!"
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 02:13:57 PM
RCW's at bottom clearly state that property damage (including vehicle, or wildlife (property of the State)) -be reported, try and read it in it's entirety if you can.
RWFM 2301, Section 004
WHO “OWNS” WILDLIFE
vU.S. vs. the European tradition
vJurisdiction in the United States:
wInternational Treaties
§Migratory Bird Treaties
§Marine Mammal Protection Acts
§Supercedes even Federal jurisdiction
wFederal jurisdiction
§Migratory species
§Endangered species
§Marine
wState jurisdiction
§Non-migratory species
Hit and Run Laws in
Washington
RCW 46.52.020
Duty in case of personal injury or death or damage to attended vehicle or other property -- Penalties.
(1) A driver of any vehicle involved in an accident resulting in the injury to or death of any person or involving striking the body of a deceased person shall immediately stop such vehicle at the scene of such accident or as close thereto as possible but shall then forthwith return to, and in every event remain at, the scene of such accident until he or she has fulfilled the requirements of subsection (3) of this section; every such stop shall be made without obstructing traffic more than is necessary.
(2)(a) The driver of any vehicle involved in an accident resulting only in damage to a vehicle which is driven or attended by any person or damage to other property must move the vehicle as soon as possible off the roadway or freeway main lanes, shoulders, medians, and adjacent areas to a location on an exit ramp shoulder, the frontage road, the nearest suitable cross street, or other suitable location. The driver shall remain at the suitable location until he or she has fulfilled the requirements of subsection (3) of this section. Moving the vehicle in no way affects fault for an accident.
(b) A law enforcement officer or representative of the department of transportation may cause a motor vehicle, cargo, or debris to be moved from the roadway; and neither the department of transportation representative, nor anyone acting under the direction of the officer or the department of transportation representative is liable for damage to the motor vehicle, cargo, or debris caused by reasonable efforts of removal.
(3) Unless otherwise provided in subsection (7) of this section the driver of any vehicle involved in an accident resulting in injury to or death of any person, or involving striking the body of a deceased person, or resulting in damage to any vehicle which is driven or attended by any person or damage to other property shall give his or her name, address, insurance company, insurance policy number, and vehicle license number and shall exhibit his or her vehicle driver's license to any person struck or injured or the driver or any occupant of, or any person attending, any such vehicle collided with and shall render to any person injured in such accident reasonable assistance, including the carrying or the making of arrangements for the carrying of such person to a physician or hospital for medical treatment if it is apparent that such treatment is necessary or if such carrying is requested by the injured person or on his or her behalf. Under no circumstances shall the rendering of assistance or other compliance with the provisions of this subsection be evidence of the liability of any driver for such accident.
(4)(a) Any driver covered by the provisions of subsection (1) of this section failing to stop or comply with any of the requirements of subsection (3) of this section in the case of an accident resulting in death is guilty of a class B felony and, upon conviction, is punishable according to chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(b) Any driver covered by the provisions of subsection (1) of this section failing to stop or comply with any of the requirements of subsection (3) of this section in the case of an accident resulting in injury is guilty of a class C felony and, upon conviction, is punishable according to chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(c) Any driver covered by the provisions of subsection (1) of this section failing to stop or comply with any of the requirements of subsection (3) of this section in the case of an accident involving striking the body of a deceased person is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.
(d) This subsection shall not apply to any person injured or incapacitated by such accident to the extent of being physically incapable of complying with this section.
(5) Any driver covered by the provisions of subsection (2) of this section failing to stop or to comply with any of the requirements of subsection (3) of this section under said circumstances shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor: PROVIDED, That this provision shall not apply to any person injured or incapacitated by such accident to the extent of being physically incapable of complying herewith.
(6) The license or permit to drive or any nonresident privilege to drive of any person convicted under this section or any local ordinance consisting of substantially the same language as this section of failure to stop and give information or render aid following an accident with any vehicle driven or attended by any person shall be revoked by the department.
(7) If none of the persons specified are in condition to receive the information to which they otherwise would be entitled under subsection (3) of this section, and no police officer is present, the driver of any vehicle involved in such accident after fulfilling all other requirements of subsections (1) and (3) of this section insofar as possible on his or her part to be performed, shall forthwith report such accident to the nearest office of the duly authorized police authority and submit thereto the information specified in subsection (3) of this section.
[2002 c 194 § 1; 2001 c 145 § 1; 2000 c 66 § 1; 1990 c 210 § 2; 1980 c 97 § 1; 1979 ex.s. c 136 § 80; 1975-'76 2nd ex.s. c 18 § 1. Prior: 1975 1st ex.s. c 210 § 1; 1975 c 62 § 14; 1967 c 32 § 53; 1961 c 12 § 46.52.020; prior: 1937 c 189 § 134; RRS § 6360-134; 1927 c 309 § 50, part; RRS § 6362-50, part.]
Post by: Holg3107 on November 03, 2010, 03:01:25 PM
Post by: Wile E. Hunter on November 03, 2010, 03:28:16 PM
RCW's at bottom clearly state that property damage (including vehicle, or wildlife (property of the State)) -be reported, try and read it in it's entirety if you can.
RWFM 2301, Section 004
WHO “OWNS” WILDLIFE
vU.S. vs. the European tradition
vJurisdiction in the United States:
wInternational Treaties
§Migratory Bird Treaties
§Marine Mammal Protection Acts
§Supercedes even Federal jurisdiction
wFederal jurisdiction
§Migratory species
§Endangered species
§Marine
wState jurisdiction
§Non-migratory species
The things you've written ceased having value several posts ago. I'll wander out of this topic, and leave it to your distorted view. Enjoy it.
Wile E.
Post by: Houndhunter on November 03, 2010, 03:28:42 PM
Post by: Carnivore on November 03, 2010, 03:37:58 PM
Post by: Lowedog on November 03, 2010, 04:40:22 PM
True story..... 3 years ago two buddies and I were driving to Coville from Spokane to our deer camp. Just North of Deer Park we saw a doe on west side of the hwy about 50 yards out. One buddy had a doe tag or we were muzzy cannot recall. We went to the nearest shop and inquired on who the landowner was. Landowner was across the street just over a hill. When asking permission the landowner said he knows about that doe as he almost went to go shoot it himself. He goes on to tell us it was hit by a car earlier that morning and has broken rear legs. He ended up giving permission but interesting enough warned us that a female game warden has been continously driving by to see when someone is going to shoot that doe. I took his point as to make sure we were adequately off the highway. We went down and shot the doe. Sure enough within 20 minutes here comes the female game warden. Checked that it was properly tagged, asked if we had permission to be on the land, and thanked us for taking a injured animal that was suffering. We also covered up the whole scene with my Suburban as to not offend anyone as we worked which she also acknowledged and thanked us for.
Makes me wonder why she hadn't put the deer down herself. I have reported injured deer before and when an officer showed up they put the deer down.
Better that it didn't go to waste though. They used to be able to feed inmates road killed deer or elk from what I have been told. Someone probably decided that it wasn't good enough for them.
Post by: singleshot12 on November 03, 2010, 05:20:32 PM
Post by: robescc on November 03, 2010, 08:33:05 PM
Post by: rb2506 on November 03, 2010, 09:06:54 PM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 09:16:17 PM
i hit a little buck a couple of years ago $3400 was the damage so if its the states deer should i have sent them the bill DMAN
That's one hell of a big blacktail to run over your car RBENN. :rolleyes:
Post by: rb2506 on November 03, 2010, 09:22:07 PM
Post by: COUG on November 03, 2010, 09:24:57 PM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 03, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on November 03, 2010, 09:46:44 PM
Post by: msdeerhunter on November 05, 2010, 01:13:31 PM
there was a dandy 4x4 killed 1/4 mile from this one on sunday..Just thought I would show you all the Deer that was taken on Sunday that is mentioned here. (at least I am going to try).....(http://)
Post by: Curly on November 05, 2010, 01:17:32 PM
Post by: Fishhog on November 05, 2010, 03:56:11 PM
there was a dandy 4x4 killed 1/4 mile from this one on sunday..Just thought I would show you all the Deer that was taken on Sunday that is mentioned here. (at least I am going to try).....(http://)
AWSOME Deer! Hey... are those tire tread marks I see ? :stirthepot: IM KIDDING
Both are awsome deer and I would be happy with either. Nuff Said !!!!
Post by: singleshot12 on November 05, 2010, 04:10:17 PM
Anyone hear anything about the new pending washington state record blacktail shot near Duvall?
Post by: remington300mag on November 05, 2010, 04:13:43 PM
On a side note.....talked to a gamie that is a buddy of mine today and he informed me that if it is legal hunting season...and you have a tag for said season....and you come upon road kill....and said animal would be legal to harvest during said season you have a tag for.....you may indeed tag said animal!!
PS.....does anyone have a spare rail road tie and some bailing wire I could borrow?!?!?! :yike:
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 05, 2010, 08:50:09 PM
Great Buck! I would love to have gotten my tag on that one.......Also, I think the story is kind of cool! Who ever hit it with their car should at least get a back strap out of it!!! :lol4:
On a side note.....talked to a gamie that is a buddy of mine today and he informed me that if it is legal hunting season...and you have a tag for said season....and you come upon road kill....and said animal would be legal to harvest during said season you have a tag for.....you may indeed tag said animal!!
PS.....does anyone have a spare rail road tie and some bailing wire I could borrow?!?!?! :yike:
Dumb laws of Washington State
compiled by Dixie A. Walter
Here are some of the dim-witted laws of our otherwise bright state:
Forget about buying a TV on Sunday in Spokane. It's illegal. Buying any kind of meat on Sunday in Washington is also against the law as is purchasing a mattress.
This is a tricky one. A man may be looking at five years of jail time for "deflowering" a virgin. This is against the law regardless of the woman's age or marital status. Think about it.
It is against the law to paint polka dots on Old Glory.
All lollipops are forbidden.
If you are driving a motorized vehicle toward a town or city and have "criminal intentions" it is "mandatory" that you stop before entering the city limits and telephone the chief of police.
It's illegal to pretend that your parents are wealthy.
One of my favorites is so nonsensical I would like to know the inner workings of the minds that came up with this. When two trains come to a crossing, neither can go until the other has passed.
In Bremerton you can't "shuck" peanuts on the street.
If you live in Everett don't plan to put a hypnotized person, or even a supposedly hypnotized person, in a store window.
In Lynden you cannot dance and drink in the same establishment.
In Seattle you can get in trouble with the law if you carry a concealed weapon over six feet long.
And when riding a bus, women cannot sit on men's laps without a pillow between them.
No one can set fire to another person's property without asking permission.
You are breaking the law in this state if you drive while asleep.
It is illegal to gather and "consume" road kill.
At night a man with a lantern must go about 100 yards ahead of a "motor car."
A law in Vancouver requires all "motor vehicles" to carry an anchor to be used as the emergency brake.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So who is the judge of equines in Wilbur where it's against the law to ride an "ugly" horse?
Think these laws are odd, ludicrous and outdated? Ordinance Number 7, passed June 7, 1995 in San Juan County states that eight women may not reside in the same house because doing so would "constitute a brothel." It must not be a college county.
:dunno:
Must be the buddy system.
Post by: Kent Hunter on November 06, 2010, 03:16:56 AM
Post by: krout81 on November 06, 2010, 03:18:00 AM
Post by: Curly on November 07, 2010, 05:49:49 AM
I'm sure that all the "Holier than thou" guys that have posted never go over 60 mph in a 60 mph zone and never talk on their cell phones while driving and so on and so on. And if you look back on some of their post's about wolves they would NEVER SSS when it comes to shooting a wolf if they saw one either. And no, I'm not a wolf lover. I HATE THEM!! Wolves that is. They just pick the laws that they choose to break. That's just the plain truth.
From what I've read on this thread, there is only 1 guy with the "holier than thou" attitude in this thread...............
Post by: 400out on November 07, 2010, 07:33:47 AM
Post by: singleshot12 on November 07, 2010, 08:05:32 AM
I'm sure that all the "Holier than thou" guys that have posted never go over 60 mph in a 60 mph zone and never talk on their cell phones while driving and so on and so on. And if you look back on some of their post's about wolves they would NEVER SSS when it comes to shooting a wolf if they saw one either. And no, I'm not a wolf lover. I HATE THEM!! Wolves that is. They just pick the laws that they choose to break. That's just the plain truth.
From what I've read on this thread, there is only 1 guy with the "holier than thou" attitude in this thread...............
:pee: on him!
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 07, 2010, 11:10:30 AM
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From what I've read on this thread, there is only 1 guy with the "holier than thou" attitude in this thread...............
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:pee: on him!
Assume that's directed at me. Why so upset with folks analysis of what little facts were presented, when you opened with "don't know the story behind it"? If you can't discuss/ debate like an adult, your going to be really disappointed in life. All we know at this point really is it is a pic of a big deer. I will speak up whenever there is a misrepresentation of laws, many folks on here will do that, it's hardly an exclusive group. If someone can show me one written code contradicting what I have cited, I would accept it, but then again that would take an adult discussion with some intelligence, not just "my buddy said this, so I believe it" >:(.
Couple comments made above I'm not sure who they are directed at, should clarify I have no opinion on wolves on private property, I don't live in wolf Country (no idea what that is about).
Post by: Buckrub on November 08, 2010, 12:49:17 PM
Law or no law I would have put the animal down...bragged about the size... but I wouldn't have tagged the animal or tried to get it scored and booked... all would be against rules of fair chase.
Sides that... I heard it was 28" wide... nice buck
Post by: Kent Hunter on November 08, 2010, 04:59:52 PM
My comment on wolves was just that. Many have stated that they would shoot a wolf on sight and just SSS. Such actions would be breaking game laws. Yet they are quick to jump on anybody else that they percieve to be breaking any other game laws.
I really am glad that Bone made the post in "General Disscussion" that he posted. Hopefully it will put a damper on some of the bullying and nit picking that has in my opinion gotten a bit out of hand.
I'll be right up front and tell all that if I do see a wolf or wolves, I will shoot every one that I can. I don't want or have no intention of hijacking this thread with talk about wolves but you asked what the wolf comment was about and I am just answering your inquiry about said comment.
Post by: Curly on November 09, 2010, 08:06:38 AM
Couple comments made above I'm not sure who they are directed at, should clarify I have no opinion on wolves on private property, I don't live in wolf Country (no idea what that is about).
My post was directed at you Dman. I shouldn't have said anything and just let it go, but your comments on this thread really blew me away. I couldn't believe the stuff you were reading into the story. You were just assuming the guy broke laws when the story that was told should not have lead anyone to that conclusion.
I had posted a comment earlier in this thread where I was a little harsh in my comment and I immediately deleted it. Maybe you saw it......I hope not.
The discussion about finishing off an injured animal can be a good discussion and probably is a valuable discussion to have on this site, but it seems like a separate thread could have been created to discuss the issues related to that. I'll try not to post right away after reading something that gets to me so as not to insert foot in mouth...... :)
Post by: singleshot12 on November 09, 2010, 08:13:15 AM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on November 09, 2010, 08:43:54 AM
"The guy saw it get hit by a car and watched it go up the hill and lay down. He was on his way to work and couldn't have a gun on company property so he went to the nearest house and got a 30-30 from there. He walked up and shot it. I will leave names out of it. It is a big dear though."
The State's guidance on observing an accident is that you have to call it in if damage has occurred to a vehicle/ property, regardless of some of the arm-chair lawyering here, helping craft this type of legislation gives me some perspective. To me it's incredibly irresponsible to put a deer before a threat to human life, such as a drunk driver, or someone possibly injured in an accident, I only know how I would respond. In fact I have been in situations where a deer was hit and my only concern was for the accident victims. I find it bizarre that there are others out there who don't share the same concern and I can only say I hope your never in need of assistance from others on the roads. If an officer responded, the story would have been different and I'm sure you know that. I was far from the only one to comment on this one, I read at least three other comments that suggested similar thoughts. Losing family members to drunk drivers perhaps makes me more aware of some of these issue's, not every deer collision is unavoidable, particularly if it is observed in broad daylight hours. That's all I will say on this further, if anyone wants to debate personally take it up by PM please.