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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: WDFW-SUX on November 04, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
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He lives on Orcas island and he's borderline tame...... 6x5 good mass... Family member who's a non hunter offered him up.... :dunno:
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:mgun: :cue:
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I think I would. It would be better than letting him die of old age.
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He lives on Orcas island and he's borderline tame...... 6x5 good mass... Family member who's a non hunter offered him up.... :dunno:
If you want the meat I say yes......but if you want the hunt, I say no.
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Children feed him apples...
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I would consider it. Make it as good of a hunt as you can. If he doesn't know you are there when you shoot him it isn't any different than any of those whitetail hunts on TV. Setting up a good ambush or stand hunt on him would be way better than having him looking at ya when you shoot him.
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Children feed him apples...
OOOHHH. I don't think I could.....just because of the children. That's just me though.......good luck.
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Anyone know if Orcas is firearm restricted?
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Just put an apple on the end of an arrow :dunno: maybe thats baiting :bdid: :chuckle:
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Yep, take him. Deer that are fed apples are delicious. If not, get the word out for a young/old/disabled/active duty hunter to take him.
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Here ya go, just think about the dangers of children getting too close to wild animals. KILL HIM FOR THE KIDS ;)
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I don't like killing pets. . . :dunno:
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yes it is restricted , maybe use a hammer or a spear , or a pit trap. Seriously if he's a pet I'd pass .
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I think all of the islands are rifle restricted, I think you can use slugs but not 100%
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Children feed him apples...
Another buck will soon replace him, and they can continue feeding the deer. (although feeding deer like that really is not a good idea)
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baiting deer is legal. ,,,, shoot him, make the kids watch. lol :chuckle: :chuckle:
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You definitely should not. I should. :chuckle: :rolleyes:
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Have fun just watching him. Give him a pardon.
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An acclimated dominant buck deer in the rut can be extremely dangerous :bdid:- in particular to children used to approaching and feeding him. Dirt nap ASAP.
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Take his collar off first. That makes it a wild animal again.
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Anyone know if Orcas is firearm restricted?
Do it from 400 yards with a 6 pound slug gun......for the challenge.
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wait for him to drop his antlers then put them on a plaque. Wouldn't blame you if you end up shooting him though, I just wouldn't brag about it too much but a blacktail that nice deserves to be on the wall.
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As a disabled hunter that has not filled his tag yet, I would be more than willing to come out and relocate your deer to my freezer
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Exactly :hunter: :hunter: :yeah:
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sounds like you could start a raffle .
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I wouldn't but wouldn't judge someone for doing it unless of course it's thought of as some big accomplishment which it isn't. It's cool to have a big backyard buddy buck. To each his own. I saw a hog Whity on the So. Hill in Spokane today. Hope to see him more when they start getting a little more "rutty"
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Youth hunt, let a kid take him, they wont know the difference until they get older.
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After reading thru this thread my suggestion is :cue:
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An acclimated dominant buck deer in the rut can be extremely dangerous :bdid:- in particular to children used to approaching and feeding him. Dirt nap ASAP.
:yeah:
Firearms restricted area. Also need written permission from the property owner. Also need to be out of the town limits.
If you can meet that criteria, take your nice Blacktail with pistol at distance of the limits of your gun and shooting ability. Be just as proud of a bow kill. Make a clean kill and safe shot. Enjoy some chops!
I like the idea of letting a disabled hunter take him. Not so great for youth, because it does not abide by fare chase and the elements of a well deserved hunt in an 'untamed' environment. Or just shoot him yourself ensuring that you've challenged yourself. -all knowing that you might as well do it before he dies of old age or gets hit by a car.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PET DEER.
-Steve
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You definitely should not. I should.
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i bet he tastes great. take him out there and but a slug through him. Take the leash off forthe pictures.
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You can use a slug gun! Its perfectly legal up there.
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This post is funny, I say go for it, lots of good meat for your freezer and a nice rack, I agree with doublelung, potential trouble when the rut kicks in.
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You could always film it and claim you were out on public land somewhere like Troy Gentry did with that tame black bear he shot.
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Two words... TAKE HIM :o just make sure it is legal.
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Take the leash off forthe pictures
better yet make sure you post some good pics with him hanging off the neighbor kids swing set... :chuckle:
go get em.... :drool:
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i would hate to see a kid or anyone get hurt. the rut can make them crazy and they can indeed hurt someone.it would be meat for the freezer, a tag filled and maybe a potential problem soloved.
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take it out
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killing a community pet can cause some friction with neighbors.I would consider that.If I thought it was cool,Dead pet walking..Freezer first...The deer would mean nothing more to me than meat in the freezer,not a hunt or a trophy
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I have only seen 1 post mention it-- THERE ARE NO PET DEER
Just because he wanders on your property or others and you or others interfere with the natural feeding habits of said wild deer, doesn't make him a pet.
legal hunting season + written permission on property + legal deer + legal weapon= legally killed deer.
NO FAMILY PETS WILL BE HARMED IN THIS PROCESS
:guns: :hunter: :archery_smiley: :cue:
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After reading through all the posts, I would say it's totally up to you man GOOD LUCK I wouldn't flame you either way. Just use your best judgement for your situation :hello: :twocents:
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you could always just leave him there and get a Nerf bow with foam arrows for off season practice :chuckle: if you do take him i would just suggest that you be sure its out of view of the children that feed him, unless they have been taught to understand hunting.
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ya as long as its all legal why not... its not really like someones personal pet ya know. Fill your freezer close to home and put him on the wall :twocents:
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If i put a flashlight on my bow will someone get 10 points?
(just kidding enforcement)
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He lives on Orcas island and he's borderline tame...... 6x5 good mass... Family member who's a non hunter offered him up.... :dunno:
first it isn't murder and second he is not a pet.
should you slaughter a human habituated deer sure if you want the meat for the freezer ;) and try and do it in a manner that doesn't traumatize too many kids
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If i put a flashlight on my bow will someone get 10 points?
(just kidding enforcement)
I thought everyone uses one on their bow? :chuckle:
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Whack him!!!
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So....you gonna videotape it like Troy Gentry did when he "hunted" a tame bear? I seem to remember that most members were in an uproar over that incident. Pretty lame if you kill it and I'm surprised how many people advocate killing this deer KNOWING that it's pretty tame. Hell, just walk up to it with an apple in one hand and a knife in the other and slice his throat. He'll look good on hanging on your wall and you can tell all your buddies about your great accomplishment. You guys call this hunting????
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He never called it hunting. he just asked if he should kill it.
Think of it as harvesting meat.
If he does, and wants to tell a tale of it, well so be it. His decision.
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Harvest it!!! either you do it, or find a youth to take it!!! Enjoy the meat and the opportunity!
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So....you gonna videotape it like Troy Gentry did when he "hunted" a tame bear? I seem to remember that most members were in an uproar over that incident. Pretty lame if you kill it and I'm surprised how many people advocate killing this deer KNOWING that it's pretty tame. Hell, just walk up to it with an apple in one hand and a knife in the other and slice his throat. He'll look good on hanging on your wall and you can tell all your buddies about your great accomplishment. You guys call this hunting????
Troy Gentry lied about it and I'm sure he didn't do it for the meat.
You sound just like a PETA member to me. Do you every buy meat in a grocery store? Do you call that hunting?
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Yep, sometimes there is a time for making meat and then there is hunting.
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He lives on Orcas island and he's borderline tame...... 6x5 good mass... Family member who's a non hunter offered him up.... :dunno:
Let him be. It would be like the Texans shooting deer in fenced in areas.
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Maybe have a neighborhood BBQ with pictures of him next to the grill :chuckle:
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An acclimated dominant buck deer in the rut can be extremely dangerous :bdid:- in particular to children used to approaching and feeding him. Dirt nap ASAP.
:yeah:
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This is getting a little too PC on both sides for me guys. I believe both sides are right about a lot of different points.
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Eh never mind, he's fair game. Even a "tame" wild animal isnt a domestic animal. He's wild. Dinner time. Here deer deer deer deer.
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Troy Gentry lied about it and I'm sure he didn't do it for the meat.
You sound just like a PETA member to me. Do you every buy meat in a grocery store? Do you call that hunting?
He asked for opinions, I gave mine. Take it for what it's worth! Yes I buy meat in a grocery store, and no I do not call that hunting, and when I do HUNT, I don't intentionally kill tame animals. Doesn't make me a PETA member either just because I don't think it's right to kill a tame deer. I bet he's not doing it for the meat, he's doing it for the headgear (since he mentioned the 6x5 big mass) - big difference. If he didn't have reservations about killing the deer, he probably wouldn't have posted the question and would have just gone out and done it. BTW, I've sent hundreds of meat goats to the slaughterhouse; I don't believe a PETA member would be caught dead doing that, so take your name calling and stuff it.
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At least he didn't whack it first and come on here trying to pass it off as a real hunt. :IBCOOL:
IMHO this situation is no more of a hunt than me walking up to my cat and shooting it in the back of the head. LOL
It's kind of funny to me that people seek validation or emotional support from complete strangers on the internet. One good thing about the internet, it seems great for catching poachers though.
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Taking him before he dies of old age (hit by a car etc) has its merits..may as well take him at some point before he feeds bugs and crows.
At the same time, if local kids are used to feeding him... :dunno: I wouldn't want to be they guy known for killing him..
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That would make a great activity for a kid's birthday party or Boy Scout troop event.
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At least he didn't whack it first and come on here trying to pass it off as a real hunt. :IBCOOL:
IMHO this situation is no more of a hunt than me walking up to my cat and shooting it in the back of the head. LOL
It's kind of funny to me that people seek validation or emotional support from complete strangers on the internet. One good thing about the internet, it seems great for catching poachers though.
You would eat your cat? Wow man don't see the comparisan, but I believe that would qualify for food stamps or the looney bin
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But now if you decide not to harvest him and shoot a big one somewhere else, we're all going to think it's the ONE so you might as well take him.
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Pics??????
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Have you actually gone out there and checked the situation out first hand? Would be interesting to see how he really reacts to people.
Your post said kids feed him apples, are they actually getting him to take them from their hand or do they just put them out for him and he comes around to eat while they are near by? How close does he really come to them?
If he is actually taking them from kid's hands, I would say there is a real potential for injury at some point to one of the kids. No matter how tame he seems, he is still a true wild animal, and cannot be considered in the same way you would a domestic animal. If something were to suddenly startle him, a kid could get hooked by one of the horns, kicked, etc.
I would say, go look the situation over in person, then make a decision on what you see, and follow through with it. As you can see, there are as many different opinions as there are people on here, so this could carry on for weeks with no real changes.
If you are still struggling with shooting it yourself, the best thing I have seen on here is to find a disabled hunter, maybe a wheelchair bound one with mobility limits, and help him or her have the chance to take him. I would bet that in the end you would feel much better about the situation and I know the hunter would be very grateful for the opportunity.
Good luck.
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If you are still struggling with shooting it yourself, the best thing I have seen on here is to find a disabled hunter, maybe a wheelchair bound one with mobility limits, and help him or her have the chance to take him. I would bet that in the end you would feel much better about the situation and I know the hunter would be very grateful for the opportunity.
i'll go get my dad's wheelchair.. count me in.. :chuckle: :chuckle: :P
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Make sure school is in session :chuckle:
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Go shoot the deer and drag it into the bushes for field photos, no one will ever know the difference.
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Call Titan on here. He was looking for a deer for a terminally ill friend to harvest.
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So....you gonna videotape it like Troy Gentry did when he "hunted" a tame bear? I seem to remember that most members were in an uproar over that incident. Pretty lame if you kill it and I'm surprised how many people advocate killing this deer KNOWING that it's pretty tame. Hell, just walk up to it with an apple in one hand and a knife in the other and slice his throat. He'll look good on hanging on your wall and you can tell all your buddies about your great accomplishment. You guys call this hunting????
PETA Much??? hahahaha :'(
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That buck is no different than a buck in the hills, he has just adapted to his environment so you have to adapt your hunting also. If you dont take him then maybe a car will, then he'll be waisted. I hunt on an island in the puget sound that is crawling with deer and because there are no predators there they can relax and lay out in yards and walk down the streets. Plus those island deer eat realy good.
Good luck.
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Well have you decided yet? This is out of control, please post some pics, sounds like a nice rack regardless of how its done. Should be some tasty venison....
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Here is a pic of a buck that the land owners said no to hunting, but if I found him on a piece of property that I did have permission to hunt then I would have not problem giving him a dirt nap.
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Here is a different buck that I would have whacked also.
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At least yell at it and make him run before you paste him. Just to add a little sport to it.
But wait till the last day after you have really hunted.
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Meat on the table. Think of it as the cycle of nature. You fed it and now it will feed you and you made room for the next generation. and make a good hat rack!
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I say do what you want! It is solely your choice. Me personally, I'd whack him in a heart beat. First off, as said before, there is no tame deer. Second, why risk someone killing him via car. Thirdly, its meat in the freezer. Lastly, he's been around long enough that his seed has been spread and maybe big boy II is on his way up for next year... :twocents:
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Shoot it NO PET DEER and I am ready for the Picture :drool:
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he has past on his seed and many more will benifit from his life. he is a wild deer not a pet who lives around people and eats all their plants and apples. 2 quick shots with a .22 cal to the head and he will drop like a sack of rocks and not know what hit him. post a piture, enjoy the backstraps and not gloat over the kill.
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I don't recommend a pic with a Ruger 10-22 with the pic tho. :chuckle:
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There was a pet deer here in Curlew about 6-7 years ago. It would wonder around town. Well one day it reared ona kid.
WDFW shot it. So, you might do Orcas Islanders a favor, shoot it.
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shoot it. Just make sure when u take pictures that the weapon u use is legal and no flashlights are taped to it. :chuckle:
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LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR ISLAND DEER = OLD AGE. We should all help put a stop to this atrocity(SP?)!!!!! The right thing to do is kill that buck before he dies of old age! Do what's right for the deer's sake please or atleast let someone else do it! I like the idea of a disabled hunt! I don't agree with letting a kid shoot it though.
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He lives on Orcas island and he's borderline tame...... 6x5 good mass... Family member who's a non hunter offered him up.... :dunno:
If you want the meat I say yes......but if you want the hunt, I say no.
:yeah:
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My 14 yearold son wont have a problem taking care of that for ya in the late archery season. :P
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Yep get him before an SUV does!
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I used to live up on Orcas back in the mid 80s. I worked for a woman by the name of Dorthy. I cannot remember her last name. She was about 70 at the time. She had a bunch of big bucks running around her place as well as a ton of peacocks. One buck was HUGE and would come up to the living room window and look in. Scared the crap outta me the first time he did it. :chuckle:
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We have elk in our yard all the time and I am often asked why I don't shoot one. Though they do sometimes piss me off because they eat all the flowers and such, I just don't see the need to shoot one. I hunt for the challenge, for the excuse to get away from the phone, the computer, the traffic. I hunt as an escape from reality so to speak. Sitting on my back porch and sticking one with my bow just doesn't really do it for me. I have nothing against people that do because that is their prerogative but its not for me. If I were really hard up for money and really needed the meat it would be different but luckily I am not. :twocents:
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Its not really a pet if it doesn't have a name. It may be habituated to human contact, but so are a lot of other animals we kill and eat. If he doesn't have a name, I say go for it.
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just one whack with a ballpeen hammer (zero ruined meat that way) should do..... tell the kids he went to go live on another island... if the kids really miss him.... stuff the whole deer and use it as a hat/coat rack...
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shoot it. Just make sure when u take pictures that the weapon u use is legal and no flashlights are taped to it. :chuckle:
where the heck was I during all the flashlight thrash?? Someone send me the link, please :jacked:
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it got blocked :sry:
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:mgun2: :EAT:
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By the way you posted the subject I would say no. The word murder in the dictionary =
to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously. Besides if the deer has been hand fed then its no longer a wild animal in my book. I would question my right's as a hunter & the deer's as a prey, once the animal trusts humans its no longer the same game... Let the Buck go, hit the trail & find a buck that has a fighting chance.
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shoot it. Just make sure when u take pictures that the weapon u use is legal and no flashlights are taped to it. :chuckle:
where the heck was I during all the flashlight thrash?? Someone send me the link, please :jacked:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,60198.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,60198.0.html)
and this one (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,60234.0.html) has some funny posts.
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We have elk in our yard all the time and I am often asked why I don't shoot one. Though they do sometimes piss me off because they eat all the flowers and such, I just don't see the need to shoot one. I hunt for the challenge, for the excuse to get away from the phone, the computer, the traffic. I hunt as an escape from reality so to speak. Sitting on my back porch and sticking one with my bow just doesn't really do it for me. I have nothing against people that do because that is their prerogative but its not for me. If I were really hard up for money and really needed the meat it would be different but luckily I am not. :twocents:
Well said some of us hunt to enjoy gods creation for some of us its about the immersion in nature, the solitude, the pursuit of an animal on its terms, the quality time spent with family, and friends to each their own if it were me I would pass.
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I would go ahead and shoot it. It may not exactly be a real 'hunting' experience, but you can do that next year. There is nothing wrong with killing an animal like that. People kill tame or semi-tame animals and eat them all the time in the form of livestock! It's going to die eventually anyway.
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Well said methowman. Going after a hand fed deer isn't much of a hunt.
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shoot it
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He lives on Orcas island and he's borderline tame...... 6x5 good mass... Family member who's a non hunter offered him up.... :dunno:
That's not hunting... :bdid: