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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: colockumelk on November 04, 2010, 03:23:13 PM

Title: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: colockumelk on November 04, 2010, 03:23:13 PM: Again many people are talking about the lack of elk sighted in the Colockum this year. So instead of trying to spend the time explaining my paper again heres the article that was in the Yakima Herald Republic. For people that don't want to read my paper this would be almost as good. Itll hit on most of the main points although doesn't go into nearly as much detail as my paper "Putting a Square Peg in a Round Hole" Enjoy.

http://sportsyakima.com/2010/06/has-herd-become-too-thin/#comments (http://sportsyakima.com/2010/06/has-herd-become-too-thin/#comments)
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 05:38:52 PM: Do you realize that you just let more yakamas now where the clockim is? so before you do that agin better think twice. instead of a hand full of inidans now there a twice as many. good going.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: colockumelk on November 04, 2010, 05:53:57 PM: Trust me the Yakamas don't need an article in the paper to know about the Colockum. Also did you actually read the article??? If I didn't know anything about the Colockum and I read an article an article about an elk herd that was struggling and had a REALLY low bull to cow ratio then why would I drive all the way to E-Burg to hunt a dwindling herd when I could drive half the distance to Cowiche and have better hunting. :dunno:

What's the matter are you afraid that the truth might get out? You seem pretty defensive.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: remington300mag on November 04, 2010, 05:57:44 PM: That is exactly what his deal is Colockum......He is afraid there wont be as many road side bulls for him! I do believe though that is why he is upset...doesn't want the world knowing how they are abusing the herd!!
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: Austrian Hunter on November 04, 2010, 06:03:47 PM: Great article colockumelk!!!!!!!! :tup:
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: remington300mag on November 04, 2010, 06:05:40 PM: By the way, that is a GREAT write up.....too bad the state refused to mention anything at all about the Yakima's exploiting the herd.....I guess if they don't admit it....it isn't happening! The comments are getting good on there too!!!
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:00:41 PM: i spend so much time in the colokum you dont even now. i bet i see more elk then you ever had you whole life. i have seen so many bulls this year. And remington300mag how many bulls have you shot. oh thats right u can only shoot spikes. lol. i work for my elk i hunt for big bulls. i am saying that you dont want all the natives up here. but keep it up 300winmag i just might bring the rez and then will see who is talking crap.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: goosegetter79 on November 04, 2010, 10:05:26 PM: Quote from: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:00:41 PM
i spend so much time in the colokum you dont even now. i bet i see more elk then you ever had you whole life. i have seen so many bulls this year. And remington300mag how many bulls have you shot. oh thats right u can only shoot spikes. lol. i work for my elk i hunt for big bulls. i am saying that you dont want all the natives up here. but keep it up 300winmag i just might bring the rez and then will see who is talking crap.

Is this a threat towards another member? :dunno:
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:09:10 PM: A threat.lol. if you took that as a threat you were probly the little kid in school always getting his asked kicked for taddeling.lmfao! what do u think would happen? you guys are gettting mad about 15 yakamas hunting up there. you think more would make you happy?
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: mkcj on November 04, 2010, 10:10:56 PM: Sure sounds like one to me. :twocents: of course it's easy to talk ^%$# hiding behind your computer.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:13:09 PM: ok i will bring all the natives up to the Colokum. fine with me.. too bad for you guys and your elk heard. :hello:
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:16:15 PM: Cowiche... i now that place like the back of my hand too. i like hunting up there in the winter :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: remington300mag on November 04, 2010, 10:17:07 PM: Quote from: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:00:41 PM
i spend so much time in the colokum you dont even now. i bet i see more elk then you ever had you whole life. i have seen so many bulls this year. And remington300mag how many bulls have you shot. oh thats right u can only shoot spikes. lol. i work for my elk i hunt for big bulls. i am saying that you dont want all the natives up here. but keep it up 300winmag i just might bring the rez and then will see who is talking crap.

Honestly, it doesn't matter if this boy threatened me....There are plenty of internet tough guys out there, nothing new! Just remember monsterbull, fighting on the internet is like racing in the Special Olympics....even if you win, your still retarded!!!

Oh, and is there any way a person can get banned for writing messages that need to be translated....due to their lack of grammar and spelling errors?!?! Seriously, this guy has got to be the most ignorant person I have ever came across!
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: mkcj on November 04, 2010, 10:21:24 PM: Whatever! That sounds about right though. Wipe out the entire herd! talk like that does not suprise me one bit from an embarrassing group of people though.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:34:21 PM: omg. u guys are so special. i was threatening to bring natives up to shoot elk. what a bunch of drama queens.. hahaha..lol u guys r so funny. oh man i cant stop laughing..
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: Coastal_native on November 04, 2010, 10:37:04 PM: Gentlemen,

Can we please move this discussion back over to the "good day 4 the tribe" thread. It's a little bit of an inconvenience for me to have to go back and forth between the two. :)
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: remington300mag on November 04, 2010, 10:42:15 PM: Quote from: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:34:21 PM
omg. u guys are so special. i was threatening to bring natives up to shoot elk. what a bunch of drama queens.. hahaha..lol u guys r so funny. oh man i cant stop laughing..

This is just getting more sad every time he posts......Don't worry though Monster Bull, I don't blame you. I blame your parents! They should have spent less time smoking the peace pipe and drinking the fire water, and more time making sure you did your school work........Just down right sad....
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:46:56 PM: i dont blame them because i get to shoot bulls bucks cows does cougars all kinds of *censored*. hahah. and you just get to kill little baby true spikes. lol. have fun with that big guy :chuckle: . coastal native i am coming over to that thread.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: Special T on November 04, 2010, 10:50:14 PM: There are a couple of Yakimas that i'ds smoke the pipe and drink the fire water with.... But they think closer to what i do .... You only need an elk, deer and pig to make it through the winter and some spuds. :twocents: No need to slaughter the whole herd.... Better to brush up on the horsemanship and bow shooting skills, and or enjoy the huckleberry fields of Mt Adams. :twocents: When an Indian from the Rez says its better to go into the woods to get away from the stench of the valley something must be wrong.... Even if i'm just a bitter white guy. :twocents:
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:56:53 PM: Special T . you seem like a pretty cool white guy. i don't slaughter the whole heard. i eat elk year round. i dont buy beef.only at McDonalds. lol. but what ever i say on here is wrong and i am gonna do what i do. i hunt, i kill, i eat, thats
my life, my way. if it hurts some ones feelings on the way i am sorry. :twocents: .
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: Special T on November 04, 2010, 11:16:18 PM: If its not too bold i will speak my mind... It would seem that the Yakima tribe is the Strongest and most independent tribe in the state.... It may be because of its influence or its size... I wish US citizens had the Zest for freedom that the tribes currently enjoy... There will reach a point when The brotherhood of hunters White or Native will need each other. I fear that day is not far off. I enjoy putting my thumb in the eye of "The Man" every chance i get.... I know that tribal quarrels with the "white man" about hunting will be insignificant in the future.... The WDFW has sold many "white" hunters out, and despite the jousting you have experienced at this site we all are your brothers. I hope that the Colokum makes a great comeback... Even tho i've never hunted the heard. I would say that it either needs to die or we need a pact... We are at a Mexican stand off..... The WDFW doesn't have the balls to close hunting or go permit only, and some tribesmen feel the need to make a point... I have not heard your opinion on the health of the herd? what do you say? Are we engaged in mutual destruction? If the Colokum falls and the white man moves on traditional hers of the yakimas does that help us all?
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 11:33:53 PM: i have seen great numbers of bulls. there are more bulls this year than last. when i say bulls i mean 4x4 and up. i was up there a week straight and counted 32 bull in one day. that was in the same area. i moved locattion the next day. i counted 27 in a location were the bulls i seen the previous day couldn't have moved to in one night. this continued thru out the week. i counted a total of 97 bulls that week. a lot of nice 6 x 6 bulls this year. i covered alot of ground and spend alot of time in the colokum this year. more than i have in previous years. the herd has gotten smaller but the quality has gotten better in this years. i wish the other natives wouldn't take as many bulls as they do. i wish they wouldnt shoot small tiny bulls. at lest not three at a time. we do need to give the elk heard a break. i have seen alot of calves this year. alot of twins. more then i have seen i 5 years. i hope next year the heard will be stronger. If the winter isnt to bad on them. i want to better the heard. that is why i have changed the way i hunt. i have shot two bulls this year and two spikes. i encourage other natives to cut back on killing. but its up to them. i can only plant a seed and hope it grows. you know what i mean.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: 6x6rack on November 05, 2010, 12:33:21 AM: OK Monster Bull...

Here is your post from another thread
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I have shot two spikes this year and nether was a true spike.
Compare that to your last posts.

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i wish the other natives wouldn't take as many bulls as they do. i wish they wouldnt shoot small tiny bulls.

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i want to better the heard. that is why i have changed the way i hunt. i have shot two bulls this year and two spikes. i encourage other natives to cut back on killing.

So four Bulls this year and your cutting back?

You, sir, are truly an idiot.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: Dslayer on November 05, 2010, 12:49:58 AM: He's a complete F******* idiot. Must be that White Swan near GED education.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: 6x6rack on November 05, 2010, 12:51:57 AM: Colockum,

Great article. I had read it before, but it was great to re-read it. Puts the !! on alot of your points and insight into whats causing the decline of the herd. Hopefully this thread can steer clear of the Indian impact...lots of that going on next door ;).
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: Ellensburg on November 05, 2010, 07:39:02 AM: Quote from: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:34:21 PM
omg. u guys are so special. i was threatening to bring natives up to shoot elk. what a bunch of drama queens.. hahaha..lol u guys r so funny. oh man i cant stop laughing..

You are creepy.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: remington300mag on November 05, 2010, 07:54:05 AM: He isn't "Creepy" he is on here as a Representative of the Yakima tribe. A true wise man and a scholar. I cant hardly see why their way of life was steam rolled.....Instead of living off the land and being one with the animals, they would rather rape the land, slaughter the animals, and free load off the people that conquered them.......
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: 3dsheetmetal on November 05, 2010, 08:11:29 AM: Quote from: remington300mag on November 05, 2010, 07:54:05 AM
He isn't "Creepy" he is on here as a Representative of the Yakima tribe. A true wise man and a scholar. I cant hardly see why their way of life was steam rolled.....Instead of living off the land and being one with the animals, they would rather rape the land, slaughter the animals, and free load off the people that conquered them.......
In a nut shell you hit it right on the head >:(
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: dontgetcrabs on November 05, 2010, 08:17:01 AM: Quote from: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 10:16:15 PM
Cowiche... i now that place like the back of my hand too. i like hunting up there in the winter :IBCOOL:

I think you should add Spring, Summer, and Fall to be more accurate.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: colockumelk on November 05, 2010, 02:09:55 PM: Quote from: monster_bull on November 04, 2010, 11:33:53 PM
i want to better the heard. that is why i have changed the way i hunt. i have shot two bulls this year and two spikes. i encourage other natives to cut back on killing. but its up to them. i can only plant a seed and hope it grows. you know what i mean.

Are you serious? You have to be joking right? If you truly cared about the herd instead of killing four bulls in one year you'd kill one trophy bull to hang on your wall and three cows. So how exactly in your mind is killing four bulls this year "bettering the herd?" You have completely contradicted yourself. BTW if you "cut back" to four bulls this year how many bulls did you kill in previous years? Yeah you really care about that herd all right. Read this post and see how you sound. And try to think about how ridicoulous your post is.

BTW other members I know have said how many more Yakamas there are up there than in previous years.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: vandeman17 on November 05, 2010, 02:51:02 PM: I thought that was a good article but a little too "politically correct" if you know what I mean. While there are alot of factors effecting the health of the herd, it makes me sick that we can't talk about ALL the reasons because we have to live by PC standards. While I only lasted a year and a half as a biology major in college there was one thing I did learn. If you are trying to solve a problem, you must examine all factors in order to devise the correct solution. :twocents:
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: colockumelk on November 05, 2010, 03:28:04 PM: The paper I wrote that the article was based on address all of the issue. If you catch my drift.
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: vandeman17 on November 05, 2010, 03:33:04 PM: Quote from: colockumelk on November 05, 2010, 03:28:04 PM
The paper I wrote that the article was based on address all of the issue. If you catch my drift.

This I do know. What I was saying is how the newspaper didn't mention a thing about it and that sucks. I read the comments a few people left at the bottom and they brought it up but the only people who could read that would have been the people who read the article online.

I have a great deal of respect for what you have done and what your are trying to do. If only more of us, including me, did more about what we are so passionate about, maybe we could make a difference. Until then... :dunno:
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: ser300wsm on November 05, 2010, 04:08:43 PM: WOW, I think more education & less hunting is what he really needs.... Very sad situation !!! :bash:
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: seth30 on November 05, 2010, 04:37:42 PM: I dont spend one dime on any rez either it be a casino, or firework stands :twocents:
Title: Re: Yakima Herald Article
Post by: pjmcbride on November 09, 2010, 09:40:28 AM: for every one bull thats taken .2 more step in. two fight for the cows.wdfw doesnt care about the heard they are run buy the libby's .look at what they did for couger hunting with hounds. then folks started getting attacked .so they revised it went back to hound just more reguglated.units only get smaller due to peaple buying up state-land. so who really is the sell out the state or its peaple? :stup: :mor: :sas: