Post by: RaffleMule on November 17, 2010, 12:46:13 PM
I was the lucky recipient of the Mule Deer Raffle for Washington State and was just informed of this site over the weekend while on a hunt. Since I have been eating and breathing Mule Deer since Sept 1st I thought I might as well find another reason to become distracted at work. The stories, pictures and advice from everyone are such a great resource and definitely a common ground to us all. Your forum has prompted me to put something together to chronicle my adventure in hope of returning the favor.
First of all, I look in the mirror and call myself a lucky SOB every day. Then I proceed to work and feel guilty/pissed off/anxious (because I am not hunting) only to feel an enormous amount of pressure after I read emails from people asking if I have found the 200’ buck yet. Trust me, when I started this I thought a 200’ was in the bag and I might settle for a 190’ if I had Xmas plans and didn’t feel like driving up North again. As this Lottery unfolds I can promise you if I end up with a 175’ so be it, this experience will never be replicated so hopefully I can share it with you. Yes, I am a lucky SOB………
When I received the call from the WDFW and they asked me to verify my name and address without stating the reason and all I could think of was what the hell did I do….take 16 razor clams instead of the allotted 15? Forget to turn in a hunting report? As I reluctantly whispered my name he said congrats you’ve won the Mule Deer Raffle and all the rules/tags/etc. would be mailed within 7-10 days. Again, I heard the phrase you are a “lucky guy” although I know he meant SOB….
I get off the phone and think to myself “now what?” I’m not a mule deer guy. In fact my only experience was hunting in Dayton the previous year and seeing 100 deer a day and getting hooked. I grew up on the Olympic Peninsula hunting elk and deer with open site rifles because we never fired over 75-100 yds and a scope would be fogged up or wet. I had never carried a pair of binos in my life. My Dayton experience was a whole new ball game. So, I began reaching out to people and I heard the same thing……you lucky SOB. You are going to shoot a 200’ Pig. I then start to call outfitters in every corner of the state asking if “they have 200’ bucks” roaming around. Kind of funny looking back! I now know why they all laughed and said “nope” not here. I did here a common theme though and it was hunt the Desert in Sept., hang out in Oct. and then live up North from mid-Nov-Dec. Do these people have jobs? A wife? I figure in the next month I may lose both.
I could go on and on about the people I have spoken to….some good guys but most extremely selfish and a lot are full of sh*t (is profanity allowed in the forums? I like to swear but trying to keep it respectable in my virgin post). I’ll stop there but I do want to thank some guys. I’ll keep there names off the board unless they want to chime in but you know who you are…….I do appreciate it!
Sept. 1st rolls around and I feel like a buck in the rut. I called the local WDFW office to tell them where I will be (regulations) but with more on the agenda. I was hoping this dude would just tell me where Mr. 200’ was hanging out and I would be the new state record holder. He was a nice guy and told me they just flew the potholes area and “wasteland” analyzing and counting dead ducks but spooked up some bucks along the way. I asked if he had seen any nice ones and of course he replied yes…..I waited for more but he wasn’t budging. Maybe it was my westside accent? We just ended the call with him saying “it’s been pretty dry over here, good luck getting them out of their beds.” Any of you hunted the Desert Unit? They don’t tell you when the water levels are low those deer are not coming out and you aren’t going in. My first weekend in the Desert I did not see one single deer……not even a doe. Hmmmmffffff………
Now, I just go back yesterday from another trip to the Desert. They are in the rut and there are deer running all over place. I have seen between 20-50 deer per day the last 3 times I have been out there but it is tough area to hunt. Looks like desert but the illusional pockets and deep sage make it ideal for deer to vanish before your eyes. If I threw out a ballpark figure, I have seen probably 100 bucks so far but nothing above 190’. I’ve seen two deer between 180-185’ and probably five above 165’. Some of the people who have joined me have taken pictures and videotaped some deer so hopefully we can put some things together to share with the group.
This is getting a little long so I’ll shut up but I’ll try to jump back in and give everyone an update as the weeks go by. It’s becoming “go time”
Post by: quadrafire on November 17, 2010, 12:50:46 PM
Post by: high country on November 17, 2010, 12:51:42 PM
good luck, and post pics!
Post by: wsucowboy on November 17, 2010, 12:55:56 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on November 17, 2010, 12:56:38 PM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on November 17, 2010, 12:59:25 PM
Joe
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on November 17, 2010, 01:02:47 PM
Post by: k_rex on November 17, 2010, 01:05:00 PM
Post by: HUNT on November 17, 2010, 01:09:08 PM
Post by: hogsniper on November 17, 2010, 01:20:03 PM
Post by: MuleDeerCrazy on November 17, 2010, 01:20:34 PM
Just because you have the best tag in the state, doesn't mean you don't need a little luck to go with it, but you're right about one thing... it's the experience of a lifetime!
Enjoy it.
Post by: bigdave on November 17, 2010, 01:25:12 PM
Did I mention....I'm very jealous........ :chuckle:
Post by: MuleySniper on November 17, 2010, 01:25:58 PM
MS
Post by: 400out on November 17, 2010, 01:32:48 PM
Go give er hell! Throw on some chains and get away from the desert!! ;) :chuckle: Good luck too.:yeah: there is some of that good insite ;)
MS
Post by: woodywsu on November 17, 2010, 01:39:18 PM
Post by: halflife65 on November 17, 2010, 01:40:14 PM
Post by: Curly on November 17, 2010, 02:01:34 PM
Yes, I am a lucky SOB………
Yep.......lucky SOB is right. Hope your luck continues.
Post by: hunterbuilder on November 17, 2010, 02:08:08 PM
Post by: tlbradford on November 17, 2010, 02:22:23 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on November 17, 2010, 03:48:20 PM
Post by: ser300wsm on November 17, 2010, 03:56:01 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on November 17, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Post by: chad s. on November 17, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Post by: BushMonster on November 17, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
Post by: Antlerking on November 17, 2010, 04:57:52 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on November 17, 2010, 05:05:15 PM
Post by: Lowedog on November 17, 2010, 05:11:50 PM
Post by: backcountry55 on November 17, 2010, 05:28:28 PM
Post by: Cougeyes on November 17, 2010, 05:35:48 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 17, 2010, 05:35:56 PM
Good luck. Can't wait to see a picture of what you end up with!
Post by: MuleySniper on November 17, 2010, 05:38:58 PM
You could join Jackelope on his hunt (and he thought he'd be the only hunter in that unit) :chuckle:
Good luck. Can't wait to see a picture of what you end up with!
REALLY? You just didn't!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: bucklucky on November 17, 2010, 06:15:25 PM
Post by: Curly on November 17, 2010, 06:41:37 PM
You could join Jackelope on his hunt (and he thought he'd be the only hunter in that unit) :chuckle:
Good luck. Can't wait to see a picture of what you end up with!
REALLY? You just didn't!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: When is Jackelope's hunt? Was that the Tucannaon?
Post by: bobcat on November 17, 2010, 06:52:59 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 18, 2010, 07:10:07 AM
Yeah my hunt starts Saturday in the Tucannon but all the good spots are taken and there's no deer in the Blues so I wouldn't waste the fuel.
Post by: Woodchuck on November 18, 2010, 07:11:15 AM
Post by: 400out on November 18, 2010, 07:12:57 AM
Post by: jackelope on November 18, 2010, 07:14:38 AM
cold cold cold....
Yeah my hunt starts Saturday in the Tucannon but all the good spots are taken and there's no deer in the Blues so I wouldn't waste the fuel.
Yeah, I heard the wolves ate most of them, and the Indians shot the rest. :chuckle:
True story. Everybody might as well not even apply next year. I'll handle it again. I got everybody's back on this one. I have a backup gun to fend off the wolves. I read that thread about the wolf gun and I am prepared.
Post by: PacificNWhunter on November 18, 2010, 07:16:08 AM
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on November 18, 2010, 07:28:57 AM
And congrats to you on your tag. Have fun, and dont let the pressure tear ya up, :) And there is definitely no bucks in the entiat area, i did hear that the methow is just loaded with them, i guess they run right to your truck up there. ;)
Post by: gtrplr on November 22, 2010, 03:01:51 PM
Post by: arnoldmc1 on November 22, 2010, 04:06:22 PM
Post by: 509er on November 27, 2010, 09:04:35 PM
Post by: 509er on November 27, 2010, 09:13:34 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 27, 2010, 09:47:25 PM
Post by: saylean on November 27, 2010, 10:07:49 PM
Post by: Lowedog on November 28, 2010, 08:04:00 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi36.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe18%2FGman114367%2F1.jpg&hash=248212c78a9fbdca12a99928648f84f3d8275ed6)
Post by: 509er on November 28, 2010, 09:14:23 AM
Post by: Shed Stud on November 28, 2010, 12:46:26 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 28, 2010, 01:02:01 PM
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on November 28, 2010, 01:03:08 PM
Garrett
Post by: 400out on November 28, 2010, 02:08:42 PM
Post by: PacificNWhunter on November 28, 2010, 03:16:49 PM
Post by: Backstraps on November 28, 2010, 04:35:28 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on November 28, 2010, 06:56:19 PM
Post by: missinmt on November 28, 2010, 07:13:46 PM
Post by: Hornseeker on November 29, 2010, 01:36:27 PM
Nice photos! How long do you have to hunt??? Through December?
Wow, that 06 raffle tag was a Dandy!!!
Post by: bow4elk on November 29, 2010, 04:51:59 PM
Post by: huntergreg on December 03, 2010, 05:49:37 PM
Post by: BENCHLEG on December 03, 2010, 07:13:01 PM
Post by: 509er on December 04, 2010, 10:16:57 PM
Post by: 509er on December 04, 2010, 10:19:40 PM
Post by: 509er on December 04, 2010, 10:26:30 PM
Post by: 509er on December 04, 2010, 10:29:45 PM
Post by: 509er on December 04, 2010, 10:38:12 PM
stupid yote in a safety zone. Its ok I got revenge on one later. A real eye popper. :chuckle:
:puke:
Post by: huntergreg on December 04, 2010, 11:02:48 PM
Post by: buckmaster_wa on December 05, 2010, 12:33:25 AM
Post by: 400out on December 05, 2010, 04:30:26 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 05, 2010, 07:29:40 AM
Post by: wastickslinger on December 05, 2010, 07:53:16 AM
cant eat horns!
No you cant your right, but its a once in a 10 lifetime tag too. :tup:
Post by: cooneyes on December 05, 2010, 08:07:13 AM
Post by: 509er on December 05, 2010, 09:11:45 AM
Post by: Shed Stud on December 05, 2010, 09:37:26 AM
Not a shooter but I really liked this buck.You gotta love those tall blades, and crab claws...sweet
Post by: Bigshooter on December 05, 2010, 10:48:38 AM
cant eat horns!
No you can't, but big ones sure are nice to look at.
Post by: Hornseeker on December 08, 2010, 11:43:29 AM
Post by: RaffleMule on December 08, 2010, 12:47:36 PM
Nothing yet.......I thought you had him tied up for me! :dunno:
Heading NE or to Wenatchee/Chelan on Friday depending on the weather. I think it's dumping today and tomorrow so a lot will depend on mother nature. I don't have access to sleds this weekend and the truck may be pushing snow in Entiat/Swakane areas. As long as it clears up a bit to glass I think I'll see some deer.
I've heard there are a couple of lunkers out there.....
Post by: ducks55 on December 08, 2010, 03:03:32 PM
If you get stuck, need help getting a deer out, etc.. around Wenatchee Im normally free just about everyday and have a few buddies who wouldn't mind helping out either Im sure.
Post by: ducks55 on December 09, 2010, 09:56:10 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 10, 2010, 07:02:07 AM
Post by: Hornseeker on December 10, 2010, 07:21:17 AM
Post by: swanny on December 10, 2010, 07:54:41 AM
Post by: Shed Stud on December 10, 2010, 08:25:03 AM
Post by: 509er on December 10, 2010, 02:41:53 PM
Work is canceld for the day, looks like a blue bird day, about time! I'm going to head up and put some eyes on some good bucks today. I'll let you guys know if theres a big one out there.
Awesome! good luck
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2010, 10:13:21 PM
Serious consideration there.... but yeah... not yet...even though he is VERY unique and not small...
Gotta be some Moose genetics in that one........ hope you don't wait to long.....
Post by: Wea300mag on December 11, 2010, 07:32:15 AM
Post by: woodywsu on December 13, 2010, 08:36:17 AM
Post by: RaffleMule on December 13, 2010, 09:35:13 AM
Drove over Snoqualmie and Blewitt on Thursday night.....Went into Entiat but the fog was low so we had to stay up a little higher to stay above it. It was beautiful and saw about 120 deer but nothing over 180'. There was one "should I" moment with a 30' buck, uphill, broadside at 309 yards. Easiest pack/shot you could ask for but he had really small forks........Pics were taken but it's up to the person who took them if they want to post. ;)
Saturday was fogged in everywhere and then is started to dump around 1pm....
End of my weekend.
Heading out Saturday and not going home until Xmas or it's down! Thanks for the support guys!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 13, 2010, 09:36:44 AM
Post by: Hornseeker on December 13, 2010, 11:47:45 AM
Post by: Cougeyes on December 13, 2010, 03:06:36 PM
You're holding out for a trophy buck, however to many of us if we had that tag we'd already have it notched. So with that, if you take it down to the last day and still do not see "the one" are you going to harvest a buck just to fill the tag or would you eat it and not settle on a buck that you have already passed up? Probably hard to answer or maybe you already have your mind made up. Just curious, I hope you dont even have to worry about it and knock one down next trip out. Good luck.
Post by: RaffleMule on December 13, 2010, 03:36:36 PM
I'm not necessarily holding out for a trophy buck but spending as much time as I can with buddies (old and new) and enjoying the moment. Not many people can say they have hunted the Desert Unit let alone on five different occasions in the same season or head into the Entiat (last weekend) and not see any other hunters. In this case we didn't see another person.......It's been a crazy ride that I hopefully can put into words when it all ends.
I have had the chance to talk to a lot of people who know more about Mule Deer than I could ever imagine. ALL OF THEM have told me my hunting season really doesn't start until Dec. 1st......Trust me, it's enough to drive a guy nuts but I'm definitely seeing more bucks now than I did in Sept-Nov.
Would you have really notched the tag in Sept? or before the rut?
To answer your question:
I haven't seen a buck larger than 185' and if I did I probably would have pulled the trigger. However, I would rather harvest a 160-170' buck on the last day than to have shot a 175-180' buck up until this point. However, from here on out it's going to get a little harder pass on those...... :bash:
Losing too much sleep!
Post by: Cougeyes on December 13, 2010, 03:47:45 PM
Post by: Antlerking on December 13, 2010, 04:48:02 PM
Post by: Cougeyes on December 13, 2010, 07:02:15 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on December 13, 2010, 07:19:19 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 13, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
Post by: buckmaster_wa on December 13, 2010, 11:58:54 PM
The one I am talking about I thinks someone bought them off of an orchard worker for a pack of smokes? I think thats the one anyways.
Post by: Lowedog on December 14, 2010, 06:13:23 AM
What about the buck that dropped those huge sheds in the orchard up there? Have you guys heard anything about him this year?
The one I am talking about I thinks someone bought them off of an orchard worker for a pack of smokes? I think thats the one anyways.
I don't know if I would burn the tag on this one. :chuckle:
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Post by: wastickslinger on December 14, 2010, 07:15:40 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on December 14, 2010, 07:19:06 AM
Post by: RaffleMule on December 14, 2010, 08:00:15 AM
Cougeyes, I'm just kidding!
Let's hope the weather cooperates and we can see a little bit this weekend. I just had the conversation with my wife last night that went something like this:
"Honey, if I don't see anything this weekend I might not be home until Xmas eve."
When she didn't respond I knew I was in deep sh*t......at least she didn't say "no" :rockin:
Post by: lewy on December 14, 2010, 09:59:09 AM
Post by: coachcw on December 14, 2010, 11:49:59 AM
Post by: Cougeyes on December 14, 2010, 11:53:18 AM
how many tickets did you buy to draw this tag?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 14, 2010, 12:10:49 PM
Post by: RaffleMule on December 14, 2010, 12:15:32 PM
One ticket......honestly.
I also drew a doe tag in the Olympic Unit but couldn't justify heading West when I had any free time. When I was first notified of the drawing I was a Mule Deer rookie but I can honestly say I am doing my best to honor the Tag and do it justice. I have relied on a lot of different people for help and it's amazing how much you learn talking and hunting with other people almost every day for four months. It's the equivalent of hunting Mule Deer for 10 years and you can't replicate the knowledge of guys like videoman, wabonehunter, wastickslinger, 509er and a bunch of others that I don't even know if they are on this site.
Over the last month I have talked to the Governor's Tag guys each weekend. We've shared stories, frustrations and insights along the way. Like I said, this experience can't be replicated regardless of what the final buck scores......
Sorry rambling again.....Can't get this tag off my mind and looking forward to getting out again this weekend!
When this thing ends and I get permission from people it will be a crack up story if people are interested.
Post by: quadrafire on December 14, 2010, 12:18:25 PM
Yea, I think we would be interested. 9 pages and no animal yet. I think that is keeping everyones intrest :P
When this thing ends and I get permission from people it will be a crack up story if people are interested.
Post by: Cougeyes on December 14, 2010, 12:19:38 PM
Cougeyes, would you believe me if I told you?
One ticket......honestly.
I also drew a doe tag in the Olympic Unit but couldn't justify heading West when I had any free time. When I was first notified of the drawing I was a Mule Deer rookie but I can honestly say I am doing my best to honor the Tag and do it justice. I have relied on a lot of different people for help and it's amazing how much you learn talking and hunting with other people almost every day for four months. It's the equivalent of hunting Mule Deer for 10 years and you can't replicate the knowledge of guys like videoman, wabonehunter, wastickslinger, 509er and a bunch of others that I don't even know if they are on this site.
Over the last month I have talked to the Governor's Tag guys each weekend. We've shared stories, frustrations and insights along the way. Like I said, this experience can't be replicated regardless of what the final buck scores......
Sorry rambling again.....Can't get this tag off my mind and looking forward to getting out again this weekend!
When this thing ends and I get permission from people it will be a crack up story if people are interested.
I'm glad that is the answer because i think i only bought two and it gives me hope (very slim) of drawing but it is nice to know that someone who just buys one is able to draw.
Post by: Cougeyes on December 14, 2010, 12:24:09 PM
Post by: GWP on December 14, 2010, 01:08:21 PM
Post by: crabcreekhunter on December 14, 2010, 03:49:13 PM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on December 15, 2010, 02:46:12 PM
Joe
Post by: MtnMuley on December 16, 2010, 08:06:06 AM
I was just looking back at the old post of "Mr. Mass". Funny how 509er calls AntlerKing "Lucky SOB"
Hmmmm Maybe Antlerking and RaffleMule will be Lucky SOB's together. :chuckle: :chuckle:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,45231.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,45231.0.html)
I have a feeling this ole guy might be dead..........
Post by: Cougeyes on December 16, 2010, 10:15:56 AM
I have a feeling this ole guy might be dead..........
Usually when someone says that on here they know something and it's more than a feeling?
Post by: runamuk on December 16, 2010, 10:23:39 AM
:chuckle: :chuckle:
I have a feeling this ole guy might be dead..........
Usually when someone says that on here they know something and it's more than a feeling?
bunch of teases on this site for sure
Post by: woodywsu on December 16, 2010, 10:28:07 AM
Post by: grundy53 on December 16, 2010, 10:59:31 AM
Post by: WARHORSE on December 16, 2010, 11:07:32 AM
if not him his brother........ might be dead!I was just looking back at the old post of "Mr. Mass". Funny how 509er calls AntlerKing "Lucky SOB"
Hmmmm Maybe Antlerking and RaffleMule will be Lucky SOB's together. :chuckle: :chuckle:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,45231.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,45231.0.html)
I have a feeling this ole guy might be dead..........
Post by: jackelope on December 16, 2010, 11:08:35 AM
if not him his brother........ might be dead!I was just looking back at the old post of "Mr. Mass". Funny how 509er calls AntlerKing "Lucky SOB"
Hmmmm Maybe Antlerking and RaffleMule will be Lucky SOB's together. :chuckle: :chuckle:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,45231.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,45231.0.html)
I have a feeling this ole guy might be dead..........
:yeah:
and not by RaffleMule's rifle.
:dunno:
Post by: Caseyd on December 16, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
Post by: quadrafire on December 16, 2010, 12:24:54 PM
RaffleMule still has his tag. Heading up in the morning to find him a big one hopefully. One less big buck on the mountain today is all I can say, sorry.Soundsl like you need to get something off your chest
Post by: grundy53 on December 16, 2010, 12:25:50 PM
RaffleMule still has his tag. Heading up in the morning to find him a big one hopefully. One less big buck on the mountain today is all I can say, sorry.
are we going to hear about this in another thread titled "good day for......."?
Post by: grundy53 on December 16, 2010, 12:28:06 PM
RaffleMule still has his tag. Heading up in the morning to find him a big one hopefully. One less big buck on the mountain today is all I can say, sorry.
are we going to hear about this in another thread titled "good day for......."?
never mind. :P
Post by: MuleySniper on December 16, 2010, 12:28:31 PM
RaffleMule still has his tag. Heading up in the morning to find him a big one hopefully. One less big buck on the mountain today is all I can say, sorry.Soundsl like you need to get something off your chest
Easy guys... You are all putting too much pressure on Team Joshback. From dealing with sponsors, quitting cameramen and tuning snowmobiles, these guys are bound to blow a gasket from all the pressure! BTW, I'm still waiting for my rear window sticker and hooded sweatshirt! :chuckle:
Post by: Curly on December 16, 2010, 12:33:04 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 16, 2010, 12:33:17 PM
When you get one, send one my way too.
Post by: hirshey on December 16, 2010, 04:13:07 PM
cant eat horns!
No you can't, but big ones sure are nice to look at.
As a friend of mine says... You also can't (or perhaps shouldn't) decorate your house with meat! :chuckle:
Post by: 400out on December 16, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
:yeah: :chuckle:cant eat horns!
No you can't, but big ones sure are nice to look at.
As a friend of mine says... You also can't (or perhaps shouldn't) decorate your house with meat! :chuckle:
Post by: hirshey on December 16, 2010, 04:16:20 PM
Post by: greenhead_killer on December 16, 2010, 04:47:28 PM
Post by: Antlerking on December 16, 2010, 05:12:08 PM
Post by: Backstraps on December 16, 2010, 05:17:17 PM
Post by: 509er on December 16, 2010, 05:19:53 PM
That last guy looks like a stud
*censored* :chuckle:
Post by: 400out on December 16, 2010, 05:44:49 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on December 16, 2010, 07:12:24 PM
That last guy looks like a stud
Nice to see that gays aren't just good for interior decorating, they can also shed hunt! :chuckle:
Post by: 400out on December 18, 2010, 08:05:53 AM
Post by: Shed Stud on December 18, 2010, 08:17:19 AM
Post by: Wea300mag on December 18, 2010, 08:20:21 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 18, 2010, 08:24:41 AM
Post by: wsmnut on December 18, 2010, 08:35:38 AM
wsmnut
Post by: coachcw on December 18, 2010, 08:35:50 AM
Post by: jdb on December 18, 2010, 11:19:46 AM
No gun ?thats what I was thinking. what if zombies attack?
Post by: 400out on December 18, 2010, 11:37:38 AM
That only happens in the blues! Due to the lack of elk :chuckle:No gun ?thats what I was thinking. what if zombies attack?
Post by: ducks55 on December 18, 2010, 01:48:38 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on December 18, 2010, 04:10:29 PM
;)
I love the power of cell phones!
MS
Post by: tlbradford on December 18, 2010, 04:21:17 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on December 18, 2010, 05:19:57 PM
MS
Post by: Backstraps on December 18, 2010, 05:34:51 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on December 18, 2010, 06:07:14 PM
Post by: huntergreg on December 18, 2010, 06:25:51 PM
Post by: PacificNWhunter on December 18, 2010, 06:27:33 PM
Post by: buckmaster_wa on December 18, 2010, 07:51:14 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on December 18, 2010, 07:57:34 PM
MS
Post by: Birdguy on December 18, 2010, 08:07:49 PM
Post by: boonerboy on December 18, 2010, 08:34:03 PM
Post by: shoot-em-dead on December 18, 2010, 08:42:45 PM
Post by: remington300mag on December 18, 2010, 09:01:31 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on December 18, 2010, 09:32:36 PM
Is this it?!?!? Or is it bigger?!?! :chuckle:
Add about 189 inches... From what I hear.
Post by: wsucowboy on December 18, 2010, 09:50:10 PM
Post by: ducks55 on December 18, 2010, 10:27:38 PM
Post by: huntergreg on December 18, 2010, 10:31:28 PM
Post by: Caseyd on December 18, 2010, 10:40:06 PM
Post by: krout81 on December 18, 2010, 10:45:03 PM
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Post by: chester on December 18, 2010, 11:58:09 PM
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Post by: Hornseeker on December 19, 2010, 07:49:46 AM
Nice job guys! Congrats Raffle!
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Post by: Ironhead on December 19, 2010, 08:09:12 AM
Congrats on the tag and If you can hold out ( acording to Josh you can) then you will shoot a bruizer on the weekend of dec. 20th
The prophet
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Post by: WAmuleyHunter on December 19, 2010, 01:56:52 PM
Very nice! If you layed our two raffle bucks side by side they are just about twins... the backdrop covered in snow even looks the same?
Sam i told them they same thing last night!!! and again congrats to you guys for a heck of a hunt and to end it with a great buck!!! glad it all worked out and thanks again for BSing and letting me get my hands on that thing.
Post by: chester on December 19, 2010, 02:00:52 PM
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Post by: chester on December 19, 2010, 02:11:06 PM
thanks stickslinger
Post by: Lowedog on December 19, 2010, 02:13:11 PM
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Post by: Antlerking on December 19, 2010, 02:43:37 PM
It was a fun weekend, but very tiring. Time for a long nap.
Post by: Craig on December 19, 2010, 02:51:58 PM
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Post by: Deep Forks on December 19, 2010, 03:14:53 PM
That is a very fine Washington buck and was taken by a good fellow who did the tag justice along with some guy's who just love hunting and the outdoors. Congrats. and it has been a pleasure following along in your adventure. Again Awesome Buck Brad and Muley Fanatics.
Thanks John
Post by: 509er on December 19, 2010, 03:28:31 PM
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Post by: jackelope on December 19, 2010, 07:36:34 PM
Now lets hear the story.
Post by: Antlerking on December 19, 2010, 07:45:49 PM
Great buck... damn. You guys sure made that tag worth it. Im sure Shad is pissed he can't find those sheds. :chuckle:
Oh no not pissed, but glad i was invited and was able to be there for the hunt, although I would have loved to find those sheds! :)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 19, 2010, 07:47:34 PM
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Post by: 509er on December 19, 2010, 08:19:59 PM
Congrats on a very nice buck. Will look nice on the wall. Stuck pretty much to the Entiat huh.
This trip.
Post by: ducks55 on December 19, 2010, 08:33:07 PM
Great buck... damn. You guys sure made that tag worth it. Im sure Shad is pissed he can't find those sheds. :chuckle:
Oh no not pissed, but glad i was invited and was able to be there for the hunt, although I would have loved to find those sheds! :)
Haha well at least you still got to hold the horns in your hands!
Post by: Squatch on December 19, 2010, 09:12:20 PM
The hard work paid off and you get to enjoy the Holiday's.
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on December 19, 2010, 10:00:53 PM
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Post by: BrownGoinDown on December 20, 2010, 07:39:52 AM
And probably the best thread ever for keeping all of us wannabes along for the ride.
Congrats Brad, can't wait to hear the story and kudos to all the others involved in helping!!!
:rockin: :rockin: :rockin:
Post by: Shed Stud on December 20, 2010, 07:52:35 AM
Post by: Cougeyes on December 20, 2010, 08:29:29 AM
Great job guys! What a buck! Thanks for letting all of us tag along. I love harvesting deer off sleds, It's the only way to go! :tup:Good when i draw the Chiwawa tag this next year with 13 points i'll know who to contact for good snowmobile areas after it dumps snow up there.
Post by: RaffleMule on December 20, 2010, 08:33:59 AM
Before I start I need to give props and heartfelt thanks to the guys who helped me along the way. Without their time, insight and resources this would not have happened but more importantly I wouldn't have made the friends I did over the last four months.
Josh Fitzhugh (wastickslinger) - I was referred to Josh by Jerrod Gibbons because the first weekend I wanted to get into the Desert Unit and he was a local guy Jerrod thought could get me around. Although we didn't see a deer we probably talked on the phone 2-3 times a week from here on out. Josh was the reason I got this buck and I'll never be able to repay him for his time and effort. It's only fitting things started and ended with Josh.
Shad (antlerking) - He spotted the deer and told me a month ago "you will kill a deer on the weekend of Dec. 20th" if you can hold out. Hell ya!.....that's what I was waiting for. :)
Vince (509er) - you still grinning? I am.......
Derek Erdmann - Lifesaver
Michael Fox - Showed me a 30' and shared a ton of knowledge
Greenhaws (Joe, Brian and Martin)- Joe showed me a 180' buck in the Desert and Brian has been awesome even though he was on his hunt the entire time. Thanks guys!
Ron Cearley
Rufus Olson
These are all the guys I spent time in the field with and trully appreciate it. I could go on and on with the people I have spoken to on the phone and I thank you too!
Friday WaStickslinger, 509er and Antlerking headed over to Entiat. I couldn’t make it because of a company Holiday Party so they were sending me updates and I planned to head over Saturday morning. I left Issaquah at 4:30am after getting home from the party at 1:30am….not a great way to start an all day hunt! The Adrenaline was kicking in though because these guys had seen a boat load of deer and a nice 4x4 with a couple kickers on Friday that might be a “shooter.” I rolled into town on a thermos of coffee and we all jumped in and headed up the mountain on some sleds (four guys on three sleds).
We saw a nice 4x4 right off the bat but wanted to get to the top of the mountain before the snow arrived so we drove through a lot of deer. It’s amazing to me there are so many deer you literally have to ignore them to get where you want to go or half the day will be gone before you get there. We get up top about 10am or so and settle in to a spot and start to glass. Right away Antlerking spots a buck worth checking out. It was about a mile and a half away and we couldn’t put any points on it so we decided to pack up and begin to work that way. It took us about an hour or so to get around to a ridge we thought was facing the buck. It started snowing hard and we sat on this face looking for the buck but couldn’t spot him and argued about his location. There was a 5x5 (and about 20 other bucks) and we were pretty sure it wasn’t the same buck we saw from afar. Finally we pack up and decide to head a little farther…..
Within 5 minutes Antlerking kills the sled and jumps off and we know he has spotted the buck. All of us get off and he points to him about 200 yds away bedded down. All we can see is his head and antlers…..We all look at each other and say “shooter” immediately. I run over to a stump and get all set up but he disappears into a little draw but we know he is going to come up the other side right at 250yds. Right then six does come out of the draw with a 4x4 following them and I put my scope on it and say “is that him?” 509er yells, “no, he’s about to pop up and all I can see are horns!” Right then he comes up behind the 4x4 and makes him look like a little dink and I knew right then this is the buck I wanted…..
These guys kept asking me “do you like him? do you like him?” I think I responded “I’m shootin’ him!” 250 yds away, quartering away and I pull the trigger……..He squats and I ask “did I hit him?” Someone responds “maybe” and Antlerking says, “no, he’s taking a sh*t.” Now he’s about 300 yds away just walking behind these does and 4x4 and I fire again…..MISS. Fire again……MISS….. I look at these guys dumbfounded. I don’t even know WTF to say. I’m a speechless. Antlerking says let’s leave him alone and get out of here and go shoot that rifle.
We run the sleds back about a mile and get out a granola bar box and set it up 50 yds away (I have 9 shells left). I fire three inches to the right……fire again….to the right. We make the adjustment and stickslinger puts some duct tape on the box and says aim right for it. Shoot again and it knocks the tape off. (6 shells left). Then we take it back to a 100 yds and first shot is nine inches high….How? I hand the rifle to Antlerking and say shoot it….maybe I’ve still got the shakes from the night before or seeing that deer! He shoots it and its three inches low and to the left….four shells left and no freaking clue where the bullet is headed. I was at the range on Thursday (swear to God)….I even sent Stickslinger a picture text because I was the only guy there in a pair of slacks. It was dialed in. What happened?
We’re trying to figure out what to do…It’s about 1pm and we don’t have time to run out of here and get back. I called Derek and explained the situation. He says, “let me smooth it over with the wife and I’ll call you back.” For those that don’t know Derek, he just spent the last few months with Tony on the Governor’s Tag. So, he hasn’t been home too much and I’m sure the wife wasn’t thrilled he was proposing going out again. He calls me right back and says, I have a rifle and will be at the bottom of the hill in a half hour. We’re about a half hour deep on sleds so Antlerking heads down the mountain to pick him up while we build a fire and wait……You guys ever been punched in the gut and had the wind knocked out of you? That’s the way I’m feeling….I am so pissed off, queasy and disappointed all at the same time. I felt like I let these guys down and I just wasted my chance at my buck. It was the longest hour I have ever spent waiting in my life!
It’s about 2pm when these guys come rolling up on the sled and Derek hands me the rifle and says here you go. I shoot it once and we were good to go! We take off and all of sudden the fog rolls in and we can’t see 50 yds…..F*CK. Luckily it only lasts about 15 minutes or so and we can finally see. We head down into the canyon where we thought he was (Derek brought video so have it all on tape from here on out) and Antlerking spots him about 250 yds away. The snow is about knee deep and it’s crunchy so we sound like a herd of elephants trying to get in the right spot. We get all set up again and I’m breathing like a stuck pig! I finally get settled down and hit him but he some how makes it to the top of the ridge below and skylines us. I fire again and miss…..Over in the next draw he goes!
These guys are pretty excited and know he isn’t going far but I can’t even smile….I keep thinking what can go wrong now! We hike down to the next knob and 509er spots him about 90 yds away bedded down in front of a massive pile of limbs. He’s that close and I keep saying “are you sure that is him?” I couldn’t even tell that close because his horns blended right in with the background. We sat there for two minutes looking and getting all set up again….Last shot in the boilerplate and he lay right down.
I stood up and literally my legs were shaking so bad I couldn’t control them. No words can describe the range of emotion going through my body…..It was an amazing experience that will last a life time.
We didn’t get off the mountain and all loaded up until about 10:30pm that night. But, you should have seen the five of us, a deer and all of our gear on three sleds. It’s a story in itself.
Wrapping up, I just want all of you to know I got the exact buck I wanted. He is a stud and every time I look at him he has more and more character. I hope we can preserve his ears because I think a Cat got him. One ear is shredded, the other is torn and he has claw marks down his rib cage as well. Not to mention his broken nose and missing teeth. He is a warrior.
I don’t know what he scores and as I’ve told a few of you I could care less. 185’ or 190’ it really doesn’t matter to me. I was sent pictures of bucks that may have scored higher with a lot of trash but to me personally they paled in comparison to this buck. For curiosity sakes, three people have measured him and all were between 187-191. I’m also proud of the fact we did all of this on public land. We all worked our butts off and earned it.
But, I am one Lucky SOB……
Post by: Cougeyes on December 20, 2010, 08:44:15 AM
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Post by: RaffleMule on December 20, 2010, 10:11:50 AM
Post by: Antlerking on December 20, 2010, 10:51:30 AM
There are about 200 -300- sheds to find according to what we saw.
I just wish I had his set from last year so you could see the growth.
Post by: Raul Duke on December 20, 2010, 11:12:28 AM
Post by: BrownGoinDown on December 20, 2010, 12:17:57 PM
Just amazing. That one will hit a magazine for sure, too good not to!
RaffleMule, when the emotions settle and you get back out to shoot that rifle, I'll be curious to know what you find out, weird stuff. I've heard similar things happening though it extreme conditions.
Anyway, congrats again. Cherish this one man, you bring the emotions out in what you write and you definitely did this tag justice!
Post by: Cougeyes on December 20, 2010, 12:25:03 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on December 20, 2010, 01:19:25 PM
MS
Post by: hirshey on December 20, 2010, 01:26:53 PM
Post by: 509er on December 20, 2010, 03:09:47 PM
Post by: RaffleMule on December 20, 2010, 03:22:39 PM
Browngoingdown- Riding on the back of a sled with Stickslinger would definitely be considered "extreme conditions"
Cougeyes- No sheds have been found as far as we know. After the fact a couple of people have claimed to have seen him but with no pics. They certainly didn't tell Tony or I beforehand....... :dunno:
Post by: Lowedog on December 20, 2010, 03:25:06 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 20, 2010, 03:27:21 PM
I can't wait to see them......Thanks for capturing it all on camera. I am just about to leave to take him to the taxidermist but don't want him out my set yet.
Browngoingdown- Riding on the back of a sled with Stickslinger would definitely be considered "extreme conditions"
Cougeyes- No sheds have been found as far as we know. After the fact a couple of people have claimed to have seen him but with no pics. They certainly didn't tell Tony or I beforehand....... :dunno:
Well when I took my buck to the taxi and was looking forward to fondling the antlers that a lot of other guys killed on here, they had taken all their antlers home to show off(Ironhead!!!). So apparently you can take the antlers home with you till the taxi is ready for them. :chuckle:
Who's doing your taxi work?
Post by: PacificNWhunter on December 20, 2010, 05:04:14 PM
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Post by: GUscottie on December 20, 2010, 05:23:14 PM
Post by: Ironhead on December 20, 2010, 06:21:22 PM
This buck has it all. Mass,width extras. It has great character and will look awesome on the wall, a great story behind it as well. Congrats to all involved.
Post by: trophyhunt on December 21, 2010, 07:19:36 AM
Post by: RaffleMule on December 21, 2010, 07:26:36 AM
Post by: 400out on December 21, 2010, 08:01:31 AM
Post by: Hornseeker on December 21, 2010, 08:56:08 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 21, 2010, 10:34:08 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 21, 2010, 10:56:01 AM
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Post by: boneaddict on December 21, 2010, 12:00:41 PM
Post by: Hornseeker on December 21, 2010, 12:06:15 PM
Be fun to hear some #'s....
Post by: Lowedog on December 21, 2010, 12:12:27 PM
Post by: woodywsu on December 21, 2010, 12:21:10 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on December 21, 2010, 12:34:06 PM
That buck is 30" outside. I realize this doesn't count in the score, but by doing the math on a 30" frame, 187" is right there. :twocents:
Post by: boneaddict on December 21, 2010, 12:52:10 PM
(what I mean by this is that once a deer is over 170 most think BOONER), especially on the hoof. Kinda like a 350 bull and a 380. Who cares.....SHOOT
Sam, did you ever have yours measured officially? I know you thought I lowballed yours as well.
Post by: 400out on December 21, 2010, 01:03:32 PM
Post by: Hornseeker on December 21, 2010, 01:19:40 PM
For me... once a buck grosses over 165 he is a PIG... so... this buck qualifies!!!! This buck is a trophy in Montana, Colorado, Arizona... Utah....ANYWHERE!
Post by: Cougeyes on December 21, 2010, 01:51:16 PM
Post by: woodywsu on December 21, 2010, 01:54:15 PM
A trophy deer is in the eye of the hunter not the score. I have several "trophy" bucks, none over 150" but the stories that go along with them and the fun i had harvesting that animal is what makes it a trophy to me. Scores created a whole new class of what is deemed a trophy animal. So, a trophy animal really depends on who you ask. With that said I would someday love to put both trophy categories into the same story and RaffleMule did just that, well deserved buck!
Don't forget about your recent trophy doe. :chuckle:
Post by: Cougeyes on December 21, 2010, 01:57:20 PM
Don't forget about your recent trophy doe. :chuckle:
She's probably pushing mid 180-s may go 190 boone and crockett, gotta wait for the official hanging period to be over.
Post by: RubblesPH on December 21, 2010, 03:01:37 PM
Post by: ThePascoKid on December 21, 2010, 03:28:23 PM
Post by: erdmann on December 21, 2010, 09:54:01 PM
I know you don't care about score and neither would I on that deer, but I think your tapes a little high. Some might critisize you later if you spout 190s. Its probably a solid 180, or range 175-180. AND no, I am not talking trash, as I think its absolutely an outstanding trophy. Just keeping the numbers real. Let us know if you officially score it. 180 is an AWESOME deer.I was sent a photo of this buck before they got off the hill. I scored it at 189" and sent my brother a txt before they got back to the truck. I just like to have a competition with myself. It is always fun to try to guess a buck and then see how close your really are to the actual score. I am standing by my 189" txt until I see the true score. Raffle....I just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS! I know a lot of people who think they are trophy hunters that will never shoot a buck as large as this one. You Rock! He is a true toad
And I just uploaded some footage of them walking up to this buck on my website. Thanks for allowing us to share this footage Brad. http://wildfocus.squarespace.com/raffle-tag-buck/ (http://wildfocus.squarespace.com/raffle-tag-buck/)
Post by: dewandgin on December 21, 2010, 10:05:20 PM
Just one question after reading the link. What was wrong with the first gun? scope?mounts?
Post by: 509er on December 22, 2010, 04:51:39 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 22, 2010, 05:23:59 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 22, 2010, 05:57:48 AM
Post by: Lowedog on December 22, 2010, 08:04:39 AM
Hey Wastickslinger, If you wanna see some pics of that buck from last year just put your phone # on here and ill send you some........HE WAS A GIANT!!!!!
Post em up!
Post by: 400out on December 22, 2010, 08:21:21 AM
Post by: bobcat on December 22, 2010, 08:24:01 AM
If you're using "Quick Reply" you will have to click on "Preview" to get the "Additonal Options" button.
Post by: jackelope on December 22, 2010, 08:28:13 AM
How do you post pictures :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
That or email them to me and I'll try and post them.
benjamin_rj@msn.com
Post by: grundy53 on December 22, 2010, 10:39:12 AM
What happened? It's almost like 2506 was never here....but not quite.
:yeah: ???
Post by: 400out on December 22, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
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Post by: MtnMuley on December 23, 2010, 07:58:04 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 23, 2010, 08:21:27 AM
Post by: Lowedog on December 23, 2010, 08:26:00 AM
2506, what is the length of the main beam on that shed?
Post by: grundy53 on December 23, 2010, 08:39:34 AM
Post by: Cougeyes on December 23, 2010, 10:16:19 AM
Post by: Lowedog on December 23, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
Post by: woodywsu on December 23, 2010, 10:58:27 AM
Post by: Lowedog on December 23, 2010, 11:04:32 AM
Good example. And no wonder 509er and I give you and Antlerking crap about not leaving any sheds for others. Oh I take that I back I see that you only have 7 of 8. Nice of you to leave one. :chuckle::chuckle: I saw him before he shed that year and that side was completely broke off about 2-3" above the eyeguard. He did have a double eyeguard though. I never could find that one! :chuckle:
Post by: Cougeyes on December 23, 2010, 09:04:37 PM
How about two ears wit same tear? Now Im really thinking. You know it would be even harder if brads buck showed no signs of abnormal point. His buck has an inline on the right and another inine on the right that broke. Its in that bucks genes to have extras. Kinda cool to see a buck change like that if he did. Makes me wonder about other bucks I have watched in same areas now. :bash:
Here is the right ear mark.
Hmmm the same tear on the same ears on two bucks in the same general area two years apart, now i think its the same buck, especially after the antler changes that Lowe posted up, i never knew they could change so much. I always figured cheaters and extra points were often retained in the same location on the antler consecutive years.
Post by: boneaddict on March 21, 2011, 12:15:06 PM
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I know you don't care about score and neither would I on that deer, but I think your tapes a little high. Some might critisize you later if you spout 190s. Its probably a solid 180, or range 175-180. AND no, I am not talking trash, as I think its absolutely an outstanding trophy. Just keeping the numbers real. Let us know if you officially score it. 180 is an AWESOME deer.
Any news on this yet. Its about that time.
Post by: boneaddict on March 21, 2011, 12:41:01 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on March 21, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Post by: Huntnphish on March 21, 2011, 03:56:46 PM
Not to take this way off topic, but has there been an official score on Tony's buck? Like others have said, who gives a sh*t about the score as both bucks represent the tags well, but I was just curious.
+1, thats one hell of a first buck regardless the score, Brad should be very proud. I doubt we will ever see a official score sheet for the other buck. :twocents:
Post by: MtnMuley on March 21, 2011, 04:03:00 PM
They came up with 179 2/8 plus 2 2/8 extra. 181 4/8 total gross. Not sure if that is all the way official or not yet.
Wouldn't this be official as they are official B&C scorers at that show? Just a thought. :dunno:
Post by: NW-GSP on March 21, 2011, 05:11:42 PM
Post by: Lowedog on March 21, 2011, 07:06:15 PM
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Once a trophy has been officially measured there are a series of steps that need to be completed to insure the efficient and accurate processing of the trophy entry. The most obvious and basic item needed to enter a trophy is a fully completed, current, original score chart, signed and dated by an Official Measurer appointed by the Boone and Crockett Club. Photocopies of score charts, as well as incomplete score charts, are unacceptable. Entries submitted on Pope and Young Club score charts, or on outdated score charts, are also unacceptable. When an entry is not submitted on the correct (and properly completed) score chart, all other processing steps must wait until a correct and accurate original score chart is received.
ENTRY AFFIDAVIT
Another item of importance that must be submitted with each hunter-taken trophy is an original Entry Affidavit properly signed and witnessed. The correct Entry Affidavit is on the back of all current score charts.
The hunter’s signature on the Entry Affidavit needs to be notarized by a notary public, or witnessed by an Official Measurer. Once a trophy has been measured that makes the minimum score, the Official Measurer should give the trophy owner an opportunity to read the Entry Affidavit on the back of the score chart. Once the hunter is satisfied that he/she understands and meets all aspects of the Entry Affidavit, he/she should sign it in the presence of the Official Measurer who should then witness the hunter’s signature by signing and dating it in the spaces provided on the score chart.
Please note that the Official Measurer’s signature witnessing an Entry Affidavit on the back of the score chart is in addition to the Official Measurer’s signature on the score chart verifying his/her measurement. The Official Measurer must actually be present and see the hunter sign the Entry Affidavit before the measurer signs it, or the Entry Affidavit is unacceptable.
Post by: boneaddict on March 21, 2011, 08:59:06 PM
Post by: boneaddict on March 21, 2011, 09:02:24 PM
179 gross, 171 net. :dunno:
Post by: Elkstuffer on March 21, 2011, 09:22:58 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on March 22, 2011, 08:12:40 AM
I think this is a very realistic score...
179 gross, 171 net. :dunno:
Im still confused. Dont you count the abnormal points in the Gross score? The sheet says 179 2/8 but does not include the 2 2/8 extra point. Wouldnt the total gross score be 181 4/8? Remeber I went to school in Omak be easy on me. I guess I have aways added all of it when I give you guys a total gross. Maybe I will have to clarify in the future. :chuckle:
And Yes that is respectable.
I think it is the way B&C measures gross score. That's why I like the SCI system better. :twocents:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 22, 2011, 09:12:56 AM
Post by: Ironhead on March 22, 2011, 07:27:01 PM
Post by: BC CHASER on March 22, 2011, 07:27:25 PM
Post by: boneaddict on March 23, 2011, 04:59:12 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 23, 2011, 05:32:59 AM
Post by: BC CHASER on March 23, 2011, 05:02:48 PM
Post by: 400out on March 23, 2011, 05:34:04 PM
I agree! back the f off! the majority of folks on here couldn't even find deer of this caliber and someone is getting crap for not being a cert. scorer! I could care less if the guy told me it was 387 1/8 or 76 7/8 I would still think it was a monster! BTFOWhy don't you save yourself the headache and not just post scores? It already gets confusing when there is 2 different scoring systems and then a third one gets thrown in that nobody else knows. 171 net and 179 gross is a great buck!
Better yet I will just stop posting pictures all together. I stated very clearly it was a rough score at 189 total NT before it was dry. Its 181 4/8 NT. Im not that far off. Not sure why all the flaming me. Kinda old. Never did I claim to be a profesional nor did I claim it to be a final perfect score. Everyone was hounding to know the score so we threw a tape on it and that was what we came up with several times. I fell into the whole internet drama and it will be the last time I do. I think I have been on here long enough for people to know I am not some pompus chest beating self proclaimed know it all. I scored the buck for the guy, so did another member and that is that. This crap gets real old.
Later(possibly for good-Im taking a time out) Not cause my feelings are hurt. I hve thick skin. But cause there are too many pricks on here.
Post by: 509er on March 23, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
Post by: Lowedog on March 23, 2011, 07:27:34 PM
He was scored as a typical because that is what he is. Line E doesn't matter unless it is going to put you at the 215'' mark. So his gross score as a typical would be lines 1-3 added which would give you your gross typical score. Subtract line 4 which are your differences and you get your final typical score. You could say his gross non-typical score is 181 4/8 but since he will not make it as a NT it does not matter. Yes you do get deductions in the NT category because they still measure it as a typical frame deduct the differences and then add line E. Below is a picture of a buck that is not in the book because he will not hit the 215'' mark. His " Gross NT score" as you would add it would be 199 5/8. Yeah it sucks, but that is the way it is with B&C. I wonder if MM wants an update as to the official score? 171'' is still a great buck!
Not a chance in hell that buck in that picture grosses 199 5/8! Who came up with those numbers?!
Post by: boonerboy on March 23, 2011, 07:33:03 PM
Post by: Ironhead on March 23, 2011, 07:48:31 PM
He was scored as a typical because that is what he is. Line E doesn't matter unless it is going to put you at the 215'' mark. So his gross score as a typical would be lines 1-3 added which would give you your gross typical score. Subtract line 4 which are your differences and you get your final typical score. You could say his gross non-typical score is 181 4/8 but since he will not make it as a NT it does not matter. Yes you do get deductions in the NT category because they still measure it as a typical frame deduct the differences and then add line E. Below is a picture of a buck that is not in the book because he will not hit the 215'' mark. His " Gross NT score" as you would add it would be 199 5/8. Yeah it sucks, but that is the way it is with B&C. I wonder if MM wants an update as to the official score? 171'' is still a great buck!
The buck in your Picture really isn't 199 5/8 because it won't make the book as a non typical, and it definately isn't 199 5/8" typical.
Post by: fair-chase on March 23, 2011, 08:05:14 PM
I agree! back the f off! the majority of folks on here couldn't even find deer of this caliber and someone is getting crap for not being a cert. scorer! I could care less if the guy told me it was 387 1/8 or 76 7/8 I would still think it was a monster! BTFO
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Post by: BC CHASER on March 23, 2011, 08:08:14 PM
[/quote]I agree! back the f off! the majority of folks on here couldn't even find deer of this caliber and someone is getting crap for not being a cert. scorer! I could care less if the guy told me it was 387 1/8 or 76 7/8 I would still think it was a monster! BTFO
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:yike: :chuckle:
Post by: BC CHASER on March 23, 2011, 08:18:27 PM