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Title: weatherby rifles?
Post by: bankwalker on April 08, 2008, 09:20:59 PM
just curious what people think about the weatherby mark v rifles...

im looking into getting a lightwieght version on 257 weatherby mag or 25-06 for hunting the high country...the 257mag is 1lb heavier according to the website at 6 3/4lbs compared to 5 3/4lbs for the 25-06.

Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: Bookworm on April 08, 2008, 09:29:35 PM
The only problem that I have with the Weatherby is the price of the ammo. Even if you reload it is very expensive to acquire the brass.
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: mossback91 on April 08, 2008, 09:30:57 PM
Check out the remmy model 700 lss 257 weatehrby sage just truned me on to it. looks pretty sweet
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: Ray on April 08, 2008, 09:31:54 PM
I agree. 25-06 will be cheaper by far when it comes to brass or even finding and buying factory ammo. I assume you're reloading. Those weatherby's do have a good reputation for shooting tight groups.. Never owned one.
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: Big Stick on April 08, 2008, 10:17:23 PM
The 257Wby is about as good as things get(I've 3),though MKV's are shoddy in performance and value(I've alot more than 3).

The MKV's 9-lug locking system is a series of concessions,as is their inherent weight,poor ergo's and bottom rung stocks. The Vanguards trump them by a mile and are far more sound(twin opposed locking lugs,better triggers and superior balance/handling),as well as being offered in 257Wby(finally).

I shoot the 257Roberts,257Roberts Ackley Improved,25-284,25-06 and 25-06 Ackley Improved as well. The 25-284 will out agg the lot and scoot 75's at 3750fps/100's at 3400fps+,all via 23" tube and is my pick of the litter.

Now as to the most for the least,regarding the overall package(downrange performance,balance,handling,precision,yada,yada)...the 7WSM Kimber Montana is easily the best thing going over the counter. They've a 3.00"+ magbox,are throated in accordance to maximize same,hold 3 down,weigh little,wear superlative triggers and are amazingly accurate on the average.

To the 1000yd line the 257Wby will use less elevation input,but the 7WSM will arrive with far more residual velocity and less wind drift,which trump ele concerns.

I'm sure it's all over your head...but them is facts...................
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: bankwalker on April 09, 2008, 12:39:46 AM
thanks guys

im not gonna be reloading. and im just looking for the lightest rifle i can get. i dont care about recoil much. im just looking for a flat shooting very light wieght rifle.

any other sugjestions?
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on April 09, 2008, 12:54:13 AM
Vanguards trump the Mark V by a mile?? Good one little ***.............
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: gramps on April 09, 2008, 08:22:02 AM
The .257 Wby is a great round..I've had one since 1980.  The mark V is not a light weight mountain rilfe...it is heavy as hell.  Don't know about the vangard tho'.   After I reloaded my wby brass too many times, I now make .257 brass out of 7mm Rem. Mag. empty brass.  The neck ends up alittle shorter, but works just as well.   I have had two strings of 7 one shot kills with mine on deer, elk and antelope and except for the weight,  it is a great rifle.

When I first got it..was a gift from the wife, it would not shoot less than 3 or 4 inches at 100 yards.  We happened to take the kids to Disneyland the next year and I went by the Weatherby office to complain.  They  said they coouldn't do much without the rifle and weren't too interested in my problem.  Then another fella came up to the counter and he took me for a little tour..went into Roy's office..he was not there.  Saw all the game mounts they had and then went down in the basement where they had an underground 100 yard shooting tunnel under the street.  That is where they shoot the rifle to produce the target that was sent with a new rifle.  There were one man shooting rifles all day.  The target that came with mine was less than 1", but mine would not.  The man downstairs suggested checking the bedding before I sent it back.  We rebedded it and it has shot < 3/4 " since.  I like it a lot.
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: MountainWalk on April 09, 2008, 08:57:21 AM
its all over your heads..........?    what an @$$.


i think the damn wby stocks are just ugly.plain and simple
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: Sagedawg on April 09, 2008, 04:07:03 PM
who the hell is this guy? :dunno:
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: thinkingman on April 09, 2008, 04:14:53 PM
Big Stick is self-esteem challenged.
Professional troll.
Wannabe expert.
You can find him on the Camp Perry hall of fame if you need more on his credentials.
The pics he posts set the unintentional comedy meter off the chart.
BigStick is a troll and self-described expert who's been banned on other boards.
Maybe a little knowledge in an extremely insecure package.
Wait til you see the pics from other boards....Like the Village People of outdoor sports.
It only gets better......
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: Sagedawg on April 09, 2008, 04:18:21 PM
Thinkingman.......thanks for the heads-up. I was thinking something along those lines but was trying to be polite.


  Sage
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on April 09, 2008, 04:20:51 PM
I like them a lot Bankwalker but they are expensive.  If I paid that much I would want a rifle that could take down an elk so I would get the Mark V Ultra Lightweight in .280.  A 257 Wea Mag doesn't make much sense because it's 6 3/4 lbs and the .280 is 5 3/4.  By the way, there is a version out there called the Super Big Game Master or something that came with a good custom barrel in that gun.  It's supposed to be a great gun at about the same price.  You can find them around if you look.
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: bankwalker on April 09, 2008, 05:01:35 PM
I like them a lot Bankwalker but they are expensive.  If I paid that much I would want a rifle that could take down an elk so I would get the Mark V Ultra Lightweight in .280.  A 257 Wea Mag doesn't make much sense because it's 6 3/4 lbs and the .280 is 5 3/4.  By the way, there is a version out there called the Super Big Game Master or something that came with a good custom barrel in that gun.  It's supposed to be a great gun at about the same price.  You can find them around if you look.

yeah i plan on getting the ultra lightwieght and after looking at balistics im either going for 280 Or 30-06...if i go 06 i can have my buddie reload for me and he has some blazing fast 06 reloads.

Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on April 09, 2008, 05:09:55 PM
If you did want a 257, here is one of the super big game master versions:
http://www.boisegun.com/main/?p=462

Here's a great one in .280...good price:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/916311488/Guns/Rifles/Weatherby-Rifles/Sporting/REDUCED_Weatherby_SBGM_280_Rem.htm

I shot my first buck with a Weatherby Mark V Deluxe in 30-06, they'll always have a special place in my book...
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/first_deer.jpg)
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: Wea300mag on April 09, 2008, 05:16:42 PM
Wow Pope, you even used trick photography back then to make your buck look big. :chuckle:

Nice buck though!!!
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: bankwalker on April 09, 2008, 06:25:28 PM
yeah i think im gonna go with 280 on w/e rifle i get next. just found out my buddie is reloading for that round.

Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: mossback91 on April 09, 2008, 07:13:52 PM
yeah i think im gonna go with 280 on w/e rifle i get next. just found out my buddie is reloading for that round.


Same here it looks like an awesome round. Perfect for all aorund hunting in my opinion.
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: Red Dawg on April 09, 2008, 07:25:45 PM
I have also been thinking hard about the 280. looks like it could be an outstanding all around mountain rifle.
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: mossback91 on April 09, 2008, 07:39:23 PM
I have also been thinking hard about the 280. looks like it could be an outstanding all around mountain rifle.

Yeah the remmy 700 Mountain rifle Laminate Stainless Steel...........ITS NIIICE!! Im gonna get one soon hopefully
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: Intruder on April 10, 2008, 08:17:02 AM
I have a .280 (in a SS Stalker A-Bolt) and luv it.  Great all around cal. 
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: GoldTip on April 10, 2008, 08:28:24 AM
You know I've always wanted a 270 weatherby mag in a Mark V.  When I was wrangling for my Dad's outfitting business, I was maybe 14 years old and two guys from Louisiana showed up to hunt on for one of Dad's 10 day hunts and I got to pack them in to base camp.  They both had matching blonde stocked 270 weatherby mags that they had bought that summer to come on the hunt with.  I was in absolute awe of those guns.  They were downright the prettiest gun I'd ever seen.  I plucked a crow out of a tree at around 350 yards with one of them that they let me shoot, never figured I'd be well off enough to own one.  Been scrounging the gun shows for one ever since.  When that one showed up on here the other day, it sold before I could buy it.   SOrry to hijack the thread, just little nostalgia suddenly over took me....
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on April 10, 2008, 08:54:08 AM
I think .280 is my favorite non-magnum round for north american game.  A few years ago I saw a show with Bob Robb and he took a grizzly with three shots from his .280 right behind the shoulder.  I think the first would have killed him but as they say, as long as they are standing keep shooting.

On another note, I'm glad that Weatherby has figured out how to make a 5 3/4 lb rifle.  That Mark V 30-06 in that picture was the heaviest gun around.  I seriously think it weighed 11 lbs minimum.  Kind of a neat gun though because it came with a Weatherby 3x9 scope from the factory in Weatherby brand.  My dad ended up selling it because it was too heavy to carry.  Pretty rifle though.

Shawn
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: bankwalker on April 10, 2008, 12:20:04 PM
I think .280 is my favorite non-magnum round for north american game.  A few years ago I saw a show with Bob Robb and he took a grizzly with three shots from his .280 right behind the shoulder.  I think the first would have killed him but as they say, as long as they are standing keep shooting.

On another note, I'm glad that Weatherby has figured out how to make a 5 3/4 lb rifle.  That Mark V 30-06 in that picture was the heaviest gun around.  I seriously think it weighed 11 lbs minimum.  Kind of a neat gun though because it came with a Weatherby 3x9 scope from the factory in Weatherby brand.  My dad ended up selling it because it was too heavy to carry.  Pretty rifle though.

Shawn

exactly what i like about the feel of those rifles. they are 5 3/4lbs...but they feel solid imo. not like most other synthetic stocks. and i HATE synthetic stocks.
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on April 11, 2008, 07:26:54 PM
Shawn, The SBGM was the exact same thing as the ULW, the former having blackened SS, Tan stock. They did away with the SBGM, or rather named it the ULW. The extra lb comes from 2'' of snout, and alot beefer action, 9 lugger versus 6 lugs in the standard, non Wby cals. Both came with Kreiger Cyro snouts, the modern ULW still does. I've posted this pic before, 5 shots, factory 100 grain ammo, the pards ULW 270 Wby Mag will shoot on par with mine. enjoy.....
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: coastalghost on April 11, 2008, 09:08:32 PM
The OEM kreiger barrel weatherby's dont hold a candle to their cut rifled good stuff.....their miles seperate. :chuckle:....sorry Jud...I couldnt help it.
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on April 12, 2008, 06:12:27 PM
I know you couldn't brother..laffin... Guess he really learned me up huh? Well, my old man always told me, if mice had horns, we'd never get ya outta the barn.........


 Later Nelsy...
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: 280ackley on April 15, 2008, 08:28:21 PM
yeah i think im gonna go with 280 on w/e rifle i get next. just found out my buddie is reloading for that round.


Same here it looks like an awesome round. Perfect for all aorund hunting in my opinion.

You all will like it.  My brother shot his moose this year with his .280.  If you reload look at changing it to a .280 Ackley, you'll like it even more.  I have shot one for quit a while and love it.
Title: Re: weatherby rifles?
Post by: high country on April 15, 2008, 11:17:21 PM
I have the super big game master in .257roy. I used it on one of my elk hunts this year and had results that mirrored any other big game round......dead elk with a hole in it. I like the 257's ballistics as it is the ULTIMATE range fighter, decent wind fighter and does not buck much at all. I personally would prolly go with a 700 rem and build a custom for similar money if I were to do it again. brass is as cheap as it gets, 7mm rem mag and a quick pass through the dies and voila.....roy brass
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