Post by: Gutpile on November 22, 2010, 07:11:59 AM
Oh, BTW the frontal yesterday at 100 yards exiting. It was quartering hard towards me shot was perfect but did exit. Never would have with a 22-250, 220 swift, or a .223
Think I'll set the .243 aside until shots are longer later in the season or I'll use it for snowy weather only. Kind of bummed though as I wanted the 243 to add a little long range punch. Hope I didn't make a mistake.
Post by: stumprat on November 22, 2010, 07:22:32 AM
The guys that I have called with that use a .243 have sworn by them.
I hear you on the color blind tracking issue :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Post by: Bofire on November 22, 2010, 08:14:26 AM
Carl
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on November 22, 2010, 08:32:16 AM
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Post by: gottatree on November 22, 2010, 11:33:42 AM
Post by: tlbradford on November 22, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
Post by: Gutpile on November 22, 2010, 02:44:06 PM
In my opinion the goal for coyotes should be no billet exits. If you consistantly do this, you will save fur if you are interested in doing so, and kill quicker. For me calling coyotes, that is why I prefer the .204 and the vmax or berger bullets. I don't like thru and thru's because they run farther. I had way more runners with my .25-06. I know there are a ton of reloaders out there that have a formula for the .243 to get an entry and no exits. I am not one of those guys, but that should be the goal you wok towards.
I agree tl. Thats why I went with the light bullet. I'm surprised to see them run so much with this set up.
I appreciate everyones response. Wonder though, do the heavier bullets blow the dogs apart? I'm not interested in that. Heck I've got 10 other rifles that'll do that. I'm surprised too that the light fast frangible bullets won't drop them better than the heavier ones. that doesn't make sense. Oh BTW the two broasides that ran were about as good on placement that you could ask for. With any centerfire .22 they'd have been DRT.
Well keep em coming boys and girls.
Post by: LittleJohn on November 22, 2010, 02:52:18 PM
Post by: FALFire on November 22, 2010, 02:54:10 PM
Post by: Gutpile on November 22, 2010, 02:56:58 PM
I should have added that the dog I shot last week with the 70 grainer made a smalll hole on the exit side, no blow-up, just a bullet sized hole.
I'll try the v-max too after I run these out. That wssm must be a smoker. How fast is the load?
Post by: FALFire on November 22, 2010, 03:23:30 PM
Post by: FALFire on November 22, 2010, 03:28:17 PM
I was also considering the T3 in 22-250 or perhaps the T3 in 223 with the 8 twist also :drool:
I really like the 243Win caliber.
Post by: Gutpile on November 22, 2010, 03:37:21 PM
AND I might add, I was eyeballing that Tikka T3 lite in 243 on Sunday up at Wholesale Sports.................I like it :drool: :drool:
I was also considering the T3 in 22-250 or perhaps the T3 in 223 with the 8 twist also :drool:
I really like the 243Win caliber.
I love that rifle. Kind of wonder if I should have got a 22-250 now though. :bash: Gonna head out again on wednesday and see if I can't bloody it some more. :chuckle:
Or maybe take the old swede out? Hmmmmm
Post by: tlbradford on November 22, 2010, 04:07:32 PM
Good problem to have.
Post by: Gutpile on November 22, 2010, 04:10:30 PM
I would really look at developing a load for the swede for long range hunting if I were you. Maybe look at the .243AI as something to play with? :dunno:
Good problem to have.
The swede's too heavy for that, once in a while but not as a dedicated calling rifle. Thought converting the Tikka to A.I. but probably wont do it. All I know is they are coming in good right now. I can't wait to get back out there. :IBCOOL:
Post by: FALFire on November 22, 2010, 04:34:30 PM
Post by: Bofire on November 22, 2010, 06:30:56 PM
Carl
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Post by: demontang on November 23, 2010, 08:54:15 AM
Post by: 280win on November 26, 2010, 08:10:46 AM
2 degrees outside. T3 lite 70 grain nbt one hole in ,no exit got to love it
280
Post by: high country on November 26, 2010, 08:18:07 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 26, 2010, 08:52:19 AM
Post by: 400out on November 26, 2010, 08:56:55 AM
Do any of you guys have the T/C Encore ? You can buy barrels cheaper than going out and buying a whole new setup if you're not quite happy with your $1000 guns. That's what I've done. I've got a 22-250, 26 inch bullbarrel that is a tack drivin', killin' machine. I don't save pelts so it works well for me.I just got to hold one of those the other day and I think it will be my next gun! The only thing I saw that might get bad is the amount of scopes a guy needs to make the easy transformation.
Post by: drysideshooter on November 26, 2010, 09:04:23 AM
Though I also use a 223, 22-250 or 243, at times I also use a 7x57 Mauser, 7mm Rem Mag, or 30-06. I've had good experiences with Sierra Matchking bullets. Even though Sierra says they are intended for target shooting, they can work well on coyote sized animals as well. I first tried this years ago on wolves in Alaska, hunting them with a 7mag using Matchkings. Out of the 06 I really like Barnes 165gr banded solids. With SUBSTANTIALY more energy, hits that would be marginal with a smaller bullet result in a solid put down. I'm not an "over-gun" kind of guy usually, but in the case of coyotes the bigger bullets can make sense to me, especially in windy conditions. Of course you have to be responsible and realize that the bullet can travel quite some distance with quite a bit of engergy left after it passes through the animal, and be sure where you are shooting. I also like that if a big cat happens to come in to a call, or I see one while in the field, I'd be comfortable taking the shot with a larger caliber. Even though I usually shoot 70gr Barnes in my favorite AR I would be hesitant to shoot a big cat with it. 243 would be comfortable though, for me at least
I've had friends bring up the weight issues, and that is a consideration. One of my current favorite calling rifles is a Weatherby Mark V ultra lightweight in 06, which is light and easy to carry all day. Some days I have trouble deciding between it and an AR though. I find the Mark V easier to carry, but I really like the fast follow up shots with the AR's.
To the original question of this post though, my son uses a 243 quite a bit for coyote, a Remington 600 BDL with the manlicher type stock. Great gun for a kid, and it flat knocks coyotes down dead.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 26, 2010, 09:25:02 AM
Do any of you guys have the T/C Encore ? You can buy barrels cheaper than going out and buying a whole new setup if you're not quite happy with your $1000 guns. That's what I've done. I've got a 22-250, 26 inch bullbarrel that is a tack drivin', killin' machine. I don't save pelts so it works well for me.I just got to hold one of those the other day and I think it will be my next gun! The only thing I saw that might get bad is the amount of scopes a guy needs to make the easy transformation.
You can buy Begara barrels cheaper than original T/C barrels. I've been buying Pentax scopes on sale so the barrel and scope is roughly $425. I only buy stainless barrels too. The frame I bought was $450 with FFL transfer and shipping etc. Look up, www.eabco.com (http://www.eabco.com)
Post by: AWS on November 26, 2010, 11:31:05 AM
Been shooting 52gr Speer FB/HP and 40gr NBT's out of my 5.6x50R and 22-204 and both have been great fur bullets.
AWS