Post by: jackmaster on December 14, 2010, 02:10:31 PM
Post by: dirty24d on December 14, 2010, 02:12:07 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on December 14, 2010, 02:12:14 PM
i would given a back-up weapon, even though i really dont see the bear attacking after you spear it :twocents:
Post by: MADMAX on December 14, 2010, 02:12:28 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on December 14, 2010, 02:14:13 PM
guess some havnt heard of the practice, but i know of people in ak still that do it. spearing pigs is something i would like to try to some day
Post by: h20hunter on December 14, 2010, 02:15:19 PM
Post by: dirty24d on December 14, 2010, 02:19:30 PM
Whatever floats your boat i guess. In my case, I'd pass. My reason being that i cant envision being in a position to deliver a swift killing strike to the vitals with a spear and i wouldnt want to risk just injuring the bear and possibly not recovering it.
Post by: Bob33 on December 14, 2010, 02:20:22 PM
Post by: dirty24d on December 14, 2010, 02:21:50 PM
I saw Tred Barta on TV hunt pigs with a knife once. It did not appeal to me.
I saw that one too. and cant imagine trying something similar with a bear..
Post by: chrisb on December 14, 2010, 02:22:04 PM
Post by: Widgeondeke on December 14, 2010, 02:26:26 PM
I do some day want to hunt pigs with a knife though. Not the huge russian boars, just the local ones. Again 150lbs or less. Think it would be awesome to only have a 8" knife to kill em. :twocents:
Post by: high country on December 14, 2010, 02:33:53 PM
Post by: GoldTip on December 14, 2010, 02:40:05 PM
Post by: Skillet on December 14, 2010, 02:40:48 PM
Actually, not a chance. I know that's how it was done before they figured out the stick and string trick, but I think the risk of not getting a humane kill on the bear (or myself, if he got to me) isn't worth it. The human population has grown considerably since the days of spearing bear, and I'm sure that bringing back this particular tactic would slow that growth down a bit... :twocents:
Post by: gaddy on December 14, 2010, 02:44:57 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on December 14, 2010, 02:55:53 PM
is this a hand job or run & chuck? in my younger years i would say probley yes but i dont move that fast any more and after seeing a bear take a 30/06 to the face at 10' & run, well not so sure.
WOAH WOAH WOAH THERE.... FAMILY SITE... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: J Snow73 on December 14, 2010, 03:00:51 PM
Post by: rasbo on December 14, 2010, 03:04:22 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on December 14, 2010, 03:06:27 PM
Post by: rasbo on December 14, 2010, 03:08:22 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on December 14, 2010, 03:12:42 PM
come over this way to south prairie,there are some pigs there you could spear....
I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY BEARS HERE IN WASHINGTON YOU GUYS ARE PULLING ME LEG, WON'T BELEIVE IT TILL I SEE ONE :)
DON'T MEAN TO THREAD-JACK,... BUT SPEARFISHING IS FUN, NOT WITH A SPEARGUN,.. BUT A HANDHELD, OR
DEFINATELY SAFER THAN SPEARING A BEAR.
OH, AND ABOUT THE IDEA ABOUT USING A SHEILD,..... WHAT IF THE SHEILD WAS REFLECTIVE LIKE A MIRROR, WOULD THE BEARS REFLECTION PROVOKE HIM TO ATTACK ?
Post by: chrisb on December 14, 2010, 03:35:56 PM
come over this way to south prairie,there are some pigs there you could spear....
We have wild hogs in WA?
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 14, 2010, 03:38:16 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO TRY.... BUT NOT A BEAR, A DEER, OR PIG MAYBE,.... HECK I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN A BEAR IN WASHINGTON, :'(you haven't looked very had have you.
Post by: BIGINNER on December 14, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO TRY.... BUT NOT A BEAR, A DEER, OR PIG MAYBE,.... HECK I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN A BEAR IN WASHINGTON, :'(you haven't looked very had have you.
i have,.. seriously, i have, i seen bears in idaho, and montana,.. none in washington
Post by: trophyhunt on December 14, 2010, 04:00:54 PM
Post by: gaddy on December 14, 2010, 04:04:30 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on December 14, 2010, 04:08:07 PM
Im not interested.
I dated a chick one time that wanted to take down a deer with a spear....I wonder if she is a member :chuckle:
Post by: WDFW-SUX on December 14, 2010, 04:13:08 PM
i wish I had a video...
Post by: woodman on December 14, 2010, 04:25:22 PM
just hypothetically speaking, I might have seen something just exactly like this spearing thing. If I did it was pretty damn insane and the bear would have died pretty quick. Wasn't me but maby hypothetically someone I know.
Yeah that :yeah:
Post by: backyard bucks on December 14, 2010, 05:30:29 PM
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just hypothetically speaking, I might have seen something just exactly like this spearing thing. If I did it was pretty damn insane and the bear would have died pretty quick. Wasn't me but maby hypothetically someone I know
LOL
well hypothetically we probalby know the same people!!!! lol..
INSANE ISN'T THE WORD. but IF i saw what you hypothetically did years and years ago it died VERY FAST. :rolleyes:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 14, 2010, 05:48:16 PM
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Post by: fair-chase on December 14, 2010, 07:20:15 PM
Being the discriminating sportsman that I am I would have some reservations on how I would like to spear an animal. After watching some videos of spear hunting I have come to the conclusion that I would not use a tree stand, bait station, or high fence. Not that I would use a bait station or high fence anyways but that seems to be the general theme in all of the spear hunting videos that I have seen. Spot and stalk only from the ground. Also many of the spears that I have seen have been extremely long, like still holding the spear while it penetrates a bear from 20ft above in a tree stand. No pole vaulting sticks. I would have to limit mine to my height or less. I would assume (without much knowledge) that a guy could become proficient enough to accurately throw a spear out to 15-20 yards. Which should be enough distance for a person in decent shape to turn, run and scream like a little girl before being overtaken.
I am not sure if I would start my spear hunting career on a bear however. Starting with a deer, then elk, then bear, then moose, then cougar would be the order I would prescribe. You have to work up to such levels of manliness, it doesn't just come over a person all of a sudden. Of course any man that stands toe to toe with a moose or cougar and hucks a homemade stick at it will instantly be immortalized as the toughest man alive. Something to strive for anyways. If someone were to beat me to this feat I would inevitably be forced to go into the woods unarmed and return several years later wearing the hides of wolves and grizzlies that I had taken with my bare hands.
I need to go to bed, I don't even belive the crap I type anymore. Seriously, I would try spear hunting but I am certain I would eat my tag as I am not nearly proficient enough to spear an animal.
Post by: dirty24d on December 14, 2010, 08:16:55 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO TRY.... BUT NOT A BEAR, A DEER, OR PIG MAYBE,.... HECK I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN A BEAR IN WASHINGTON, :'(you haven't looked very had have you.
i have,.. seriously, i have, i seen bears in idaho, and montana,.. none in washington
Come spend a few days with me next opener, You'll have to wear a blindfold to my area but after that I will 100% guarantee you will see a bear or 10. I probably saw 50 this year just hesistated a few times and passed on a bunch only to have them up and dissapear on me.. TAG SOUP..
Post by: BIGINNER on December 14, 2010, 08:34:58 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO TRY.... BUT NOT A BEAR, A DEER, OR PIG MAYBE,.... HECK I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN A BEAR IN WASHINGTON, :'(you haven't looked very had have you.
i have,.. seriously, i have, i seen bears in idaho, and montana,.. none in washington
Come spend a few days with me next opener, You'll have to wear a blindfold to my area but after that I will 100% guarantee you will see a bear or 10. I probably saw 50 this year just hesistated a few times and passed on a bunch only to have them up and dissapear on me.. TAG SOUP..
lol i'm joking i haven't really looked. :'( but i wanna give bear hunting a try next year. maybe spring bear? i've never hunted big game yet,... so it should be fun, firearm first, then maybe spear...lol then maybe bow :chuckle:
Post by: dirty24d on December 14, 2010, 08:58:03 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oibNvAbtpc&has_verified=1#)
spearing an Elk..
Post by: dirty24d on December 14, 2010, 09:01:00 PM
Spearing a bear.. No thanks.. if that guy wasnt in a stand he'd be in trouble...
Post by: high country on December 14, 2010, 09:15:44 PM
Post by: dirty24d on December 14, 2010, 09:19:59 PM
so bow hunters get pope and young, gun hunters get boone and crocket......do spear chuckers get kunta kienta?
:yike:
Post by: Kain on December 14, 2010, 10:19:59 PM
Eye Of The Hunter™ (formerly Primal Adventures) Texas Spear Hunt Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUNu9D9PO94#ws)
Post by: dirty24d on December 14, 2010, 10:27:53 PM
Post by: backyard bucks on December 14, 2010, 10:28:18 PM
Post by: Kain on December 14, 2010, 10:36:02 PM
god damn those pigs are nasty!!! wow.
Not nearly as nasty as you would think. Those guys run those pigs not stop with the jeep. As you probably know pigs can not sweat and so get very over heated. They then set up ambush at the only water hole. The pigs are about run to death and are taking a last stand because they cant run anymore.
Post by: twopoint on December 14, 2010, 10:42:37 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 14, 2010, 10:48:39 PM
listen jack you must be nuts i saw a video once or twice it had a nut job on a stump in a gillie suit holding a spear, bear came in and he stuck it. was just crazy, bear did not go far, was a great video. would not advise this to a sane person. guy must have smelled pretty sweet though, kinda like a jelly roll or a sweet bun. it was real close think it sniffed his boot. i think it would make a nice change to the regs.
I've read that if you are going to drink at bear camp, that you should drink beer and not liquor. When the beer breaks down and is sweat out, it has a carbohydrate smell similar to bread. Bears in the fall supposedly love high carbohydrate foods--they apparently really like the bread used for donuts. So the beer sweat is kind of a bear attractant.
Post by: jackmaster on December 14, 2010, 11:11:25 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 14, 2010, 11:44:41 PM
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We have wild hogs in WA?
Rumors of ferrel hogs in this state ... yup..
There was a guide years ago in BC that did baited pit spear Bear hunts. You're in a pit with bait and an exit route, but the Bear comes in a ramped entrance. You get to spear and then retreat.
My balls don't clank.. they go tink tink tink, as I've been told a time or two that I might have been a little nutz for something I did, but I'm not gonna purposefully put myself in a corner with a bruin that smells doughnuts and pastries and gittin jabbed at.
-Steve
Post by: trophyhunt on December 15, 2010, 07:03:47 AM
i have hypothetically seen that video as well, that guy has balls that clank i believe, the bear was at one point 3 feet from his boot and he was on a 3 foot high stump as the bear a 350 pound bear lowered his head he chucked his homemade spear right into his liver. i think it cut the liver in half and it may have went 30 yards and piled it up. i believe his adrenaline was through the roof which probably gave him the strength to penetrate it like it did. hell yeah they should have a spear only season for bear, what a rush and talk about spirit of fair chaseYup and the (if it happened) bear had a sweet death moan that would have put chills up your spine if you were there, the guy in the tree stand might have left his back up gun at the bottom of the tree!!! oops! And the 1/2 inch thick steel spear was bent like a fish hook after the bear rolled over it.... if it ever did happen???
Post by: bullrider97 on December 15, 2010, 07:21:01 AM
Post by: backyard bucks on December 15, 2010, 08:22:23 AM
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Yup and the (if it happened) bear had a sweet death moan that would have put chills up your spine if you were there, the guy in the tree stand might have left his back up gun at the bottom of the tree!!! oops! And the 1/2 inch thick steel spear was bent like a fish hook after the bear rolled over it.... if it ever did happen???
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
that was the best part of the video... hearing the guy below say shoot it and the camera guy saying he couldn't the pack is on the ground...LOL
what a hunting partner..LOL
Post by: jackmaster on December 15, 2010, 09:02:16 AM
thats what i am thinking,what a huntin partner, atleast the crackhead doing the photography managed to keep his cool enough to actually video it, which is more than i cans say for the first time he did it, evidently that guy speared a bear from the same spot before but had a differant video person and the *censored* forgot to hit record :bash: :yike: :bash:QuoteYup and the (if it happened) bear had a sweet death moan that would have put chills up your spine if you were there, the guy in the tree stand might have left his back up gun at the bottom of the tree!!! oops! And the 1/2 inch thick steel spear was bent like a fish hook after the bear rolled over it.... if it ever did happen???
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
that was the best part of the video... hearing the guy below say shoot it and the camera guy saying he couldn't the pack is on the ground...LOL
what a hunting partner..LOL
Post by: runamuk on December 15, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
Post by: Hornseeker on December 15, 2010, 11:06:45 AM
As far as penetration... hell, a spear with a SHARP head would get easy, serious penetration. The weight behind a spear is sooooooo many times that of an arrow. I know the speed would be many times less, but the inertia and momentum of the spear would be many times more than an arrow..
I'd sure love to see the vids of this guy doing it!
Post by: Hornseeker on December 15, 2010, 11:42:49 AM
Post by: twopoint on December 15, 2010, 08:24:16 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 16, 2010, 07:22:08 AM
Post by: jackmaster on December 16, 2010, 10:50:04 AM
I will tell him thanks two point, by the way two point- if you want to shoot something bigger than a spike you'll have to hunt with me next year and you can shoot what I pass up :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:. Have a good one.i have to agree 2pt you should have trophyhunt or myself pack your gun for ya so you dont get tempted by them tasty spikes
Post by: backyard bucks on December 16, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
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I will tell him thanks two point, by the way two point- if you want to shoot something bigger than a spike you'll have to hunt with me next year and you can shoot what I pass up . Have a good one.
hypothetically.... speaking....OF COURSE..
why did you leave the pack on the ground, did you want to see your partner scramble??? lol :chuckle:
Post by: jackmaster on December 18, 2010, 01:11:44 PM
no he just flat forgot it, which turned out to be a good thing because had he shot it with his pistol the guy that speared it might have never known if he killed all by hiself, and hypothetically if you seen that hypothetical video then you seen that the bear didnt go far. the dude that hypothetically did this really wants to put the video on this site but knows the gamies would corn hole him, my personal opinion if a guy wants to risk his life spearing a bear then he shouldnt get in trouble thats the true spirit of fair chaseQuoteI will tell him thanks two point, by the way two point- if you want to shoot something bigger than a spike you'll have to hunt with me next year and you can shoot what I pass up . Have a good one.
hypothetically.... speaking....OF COURSE..
why did you leave the pack on the ground, did you want to see your partner scramble??? lol :chuckle:
Post by: JoeVon on December 18, 2010, 01:39:56 PM
Saskatchewan Bear Hunter; No guns allowed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYIivtJCxlQ#)
Post by: scoyoc5 on December 18, 2010, 01:52:37 PM
Post by: Gutpile on December 18, 2010, 03:48:24 PM
Thats one of those things I just would not have believed unless I saw it myself. Wow!!!!!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 18, 2010, 03:57:45 PM
Post by: backyard bucks on December 18, 2010, 05:16:12 PM
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no he just flat forgot it, which turned out to be a good thing because had he shot it with his pistol the guy that speared it might have never known if he killed all by hiself, and hypothetically if you seen that hypothetical video then you seen that the bear didnt go far. the dude that hypothetically did this really wants to put the video on this site but knows the gamies would corn hole him, my personal opinion if a guy wants to risk his life spearing a bear then he shouldnt get in trouble thats the true spirit of fair chase
yep that bear died fast.. couldn't imagine the cutting that head was doing when the bear rolled over the spear.. must of been doing some damage inside to bend that like it did.. wasn't a light weight spear at all..
i loved the video.
Post by: jackmaster on December 18, 2010, 05:22:55 PM
Post by: backyard bucks on December 18, 2010, 06:25:10 PM
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definatly sweet but how do you know he recovered the bear
i know cuz hypothetically i know someone you all must know..LOL.
yep.. stump, gillie suit, spear. and like you said not a tall stump at all.. you can see the bear if i'm not mistaken (been awhile since i saw it but, once you see something like that you don't forget it much) piled up after it died just off in the brush..
i would love to see it again... (if in fact there is such a vid) :chuckle:
Post by: jackmaster on December 18, 2010, 11:02:38 PM
Post by: wsucowboy on December 18, 2010, 11:40:48 PM
Post by: deleted BGS on December 19, 2010, 12:21:21 AM
Post by: Kain on December 19, 2010, 10:33:30 PM
I don't know about this..... :o
Saskatchewan Bear Hunter; No guns allowed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYIivtJCxlQ#)
It sounds like at the end he says "it didnt even go in". :dunno:
All I want to know it what kind of scent control are these guys using? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: dirty24d on December 20, 2010, 08:55:44 AM
Post by: oyster on January 06, 2011, 03:31:34 PM
Quotejust hypothetically speaking, I might have seen something just exactly like this spearing thing. If I did it was pretty damn insane and the bear would have died pretty quick. Wasn't me but maby hypothetically someone I know
LOL
well hypothetically we probalby know the same people!!!! lol..
INSANE ISN'T THE WORD. but IF i saw what you hypothetically did years and years ago it died VERY FAST. :rolleyes:
wow! i hypothetically grew up with a hypothetically semi-insane guy that hypothetically did that exact same thing with hypothetically the exact same results LOL! the hypothetical "death moan" was freakin awesome! hypothetically speaking of course! :chuckle: :chuckle: