Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Scopes and Optics => Topic started by: scottcrb on December 29, 2010, 06:45:27 PM
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so new to hunting within the last couple years and me and hunting buddy dont have any good optic for scouting, we mainly hunt waterfowl turkey and are thinking of getting in to big game. it would be nice to be able to scout field for brids during waterfowl season and scan areas for turkeys in the norhteast and south east. would also be nice to be able to use to scout for big game in the future. what magnification do you think is the best bet. 8x, 10x or 12x and lens size 42 50 or more. have been looking at the leupold(green ring?) 12x50 and the nikon monarch 12x56. any suggestions? price is close on each around $350 to $500 .
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I have the Leupys Wind River Olympics in 10x50. I really like them, but wish they were a tad bit smaller. They are in your price range.
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I like a 10x for open country, 8x for the brushy stuff. those big lenses are nice, but if you are carrying them very far, they get real heavy.
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Zen-Ray 10 x 43 ED2
Lots of reviews on this site - I think they are in the 450 range
http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/ (http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/)
I have a pair of the 10 x 42 ED, prior to their release of the ED2. Very happy with them, and haven't found anything better for the same price range.
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I have nikon 8x42 and love them.
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I have nikon 8x42 and love them.
:yeah:
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what you get in magnification and lens size can depend alot on brand quality. I have 2 pairs of binocs that have seen lots of rough use over the last many years. One is Leupold 10 x 40 IF and the other is a pair of Fugi 8 x 30 IF (I've had 2 pair of these). The Leupolds are great but if the hunting situation calls for the best clarity, I like the Fugi's. All in all, get what you like and don't go too cheap.
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if you are going for 10x50's you probably dont care about size too much. go for the Steiner Police models. $300 and Auto focus is a nice thing to have in low light when you arent sure what "in focus" is
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Check the new Vortex Talon HD in 10x42, new out on the market and very bright and clear and unsurpassed warranty.
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for $500 you can likely find some used trinovids in 8or 10x 32 or 42 and they will SMOKE any of the cheapo binos....save the zens, I have not looked through them yet.
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I would definately look through some meotpa meopros and some minox. great glass.
I dropped my minox out of a 12 ft stand and they are still like new. I have put them next to leupys, nikons, steiners and bushnells and they beat them all out for clarity. They were pretty close to a pair of zeiss. I found my BL8x56BR for 400 bucks.
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keep in mind that good glass holds its value. I bought my first pair of alpha bins in 1995. I bought them at the store dan evans was working as a salesman pre trophy taker, I paid 850 out the door. they were selling for 1k then, but I haggled with cash in hand. I was a poor kid who made 8 bux an hour and saved my nickles after looking through my 10x50 burris bins and borrowing a friends zeiss.....I was screwed. I hunted that very pair of bins exclusivly for 15 years they never did anyting wrong. I found another pair on craiglist for $400 so I bought them and sold my 15 yo bins for the same exact price I paid for them 15 years and a zillion miles later. currently there are 3 brands that you can get that out of, there are other brands and some are stellar......but will they be stellar in 15 years?
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I like a 10x for open country, 8x for the brushy stuff. those big lenses are nice, but if you are carrying them very far, they get real heavy.
Exactly what I would have said.
8X32 in as good a quality glass as you can afford is the ticket.
You can do MUCH better for $500 than the 'nocs mentioned.
Check out CameralandNY website for open box specials on Minox, others.
You're talking about major steps up from Leupold and the lower-mid Nikons.
Higher end Nikon is excellent, too.
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I am a Leupold guy. Back in the mid 90's I bought a $300 pair of 10x50 Pentax bino's. They are excellent! I use the bino system harness and they are not a pain at all to carry out hunting. I cant say enough about my binoculars, I really like them!
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Buy the best optics you can't afford. You will never regret it. Many, many others (including myself) have gone down the path of thinking you can get by with less expensive binoculars. If you use them long enough, you'll end up buying something better. If they're not good, you'll eventually end up buying something better. You'll ultimately end up with very good optics, and kick yourself for not doing so in the first place.
50mm is awfully large to carry around for big game.
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http://www.vortexoptics.com/ (http://www.vortexoptics.com/)
http://www.cameralandny.com/ (http://www.cameralandny.com/)
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so new to hunting within the last couple years and me and hunting buddy dont have any good optic for scouting, we mainly hunt waterfowl turkey and are thinking of getting in to big game. it would be nice to be able to scout field for brids during waterfowl season and scan areas for turkeys in the norhteast and south east. would also be nice to be able to use to scout for big game in the future. what magnification do you think is the best bet. 8x, 10x or 12x and lens size 42 50 or more. have been looking at the leupold(green ring?) 12x50 and the nikon monarch 12x56. any suggestions? price is close on each around $350 to $500 .
For your application, I would recommend our ZEN ED2 10x43. I will also encourage you to compare it to those european brands. If it does not meet your expectation, simply send it back to us within 30-day for full refund
http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/binoculars/zened2/zened2-10x43.html (http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/binoculars/zened2/zened2-10x43.html)
Happy Holidays
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50 mm is indeed awfully heavy. The only time I could imagine using my 50s regularly is if I were a disabled/road hunter. I have Nikon Monarch ATBs in 8x42. Not bad glass. If never loose em, I'm going out and spending more on he next set. Losing my cheap Bushnell's in the field my first year of hunting was the best thing that ever happened tome :IBCOOL:
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12-15 power make use of the 50mm, other wise a quality 8x32mm will smoke a mid grade 10x50.
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so new to hunting within the last couple years and me and hunting buddy dont have any good optic for scouting, we mainly hunt waterfowl turkey and are thinking of getting in to big game. it would be nice to be able to scout field for brids during waterfowl season and scan areas for turkeys in the norhteast and south east. would also be nice to be able to use to scout for big game in the future. what magnification do you think is the best bet. 8x, 10x or 12x and lens size 42 50 or more. have been looking at the leupold(green ring?) 12x50 and the nikon monarch 12x56. any suggestions? price is close on each around $350 to $500 .
For your application, I would recommend our ZEN ED2 10x43. I will also encourage you to compare it to those european brands. If it does not meet your expectation, simply send it back to us within 30-day for full refund
http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/binoculars/zened2/zened2-10x43.html (http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/binoculars/zened2/zened2-10x43.html)
Happy Holidays
send me a set and i'll compair it to all sorts of european binos. and i meand ALL SORTS. I'll give you a write up and everything lol.
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I have the Zen Ray 8X43 ED2s and I love them. Best glass for the $ IMHO. :twocents:
I am the first person I know that has a pair, but I have a buddy that is already planning to buy one before next season after looking through mine...
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i just got my zen ray ed2 10x43 and so far they seem great ill have to get out and do some comparing still and actually use them but so far so good. thanks Charles.
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My buddy that I mentioned in the last post LOVES his (he got the 10X model too). Now that I am coaching the High School JROTC Rifle Team I use mine every day. A guy at the last competition I was at borrowed mine for a few minutes. I think I may have sold another pair for Zen Ray... ;)
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I have the monarchs also 10x56 very good glass i just use a harness and have no problems
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www.binoculars.com (http://www.binoculars.com)
I've got 10x42 Nikon's and will work as good as those $1000 ones. Don't get sucked into the BS. I can see as good as any of those. You only use them a few times a year anyhow. It's all hype. I looked into some $2000 Leicas this weekend and didn't see a $ 1800 difference.
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www.binoculars.com (http://www.binoculars.com)
I've got 10x42 Nikon's and will work as good as those $1000 ones. Don't get sucked into the BS. I can see as good as any of those. You only use them a few times a year anyhow. It's all hype. I looked into some $2000 Leicas this weekend and didn't see a $ 1800 difference.
I couldnt disagree more........
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www.binoculars.com (http://www.binoculars.com)
I've got 10x42 Nikon's and will work as good as those $1000 ones. Don't get sucked into the BS. I can see as good as any of those. You only use them a few times a year anyhow. It's all hype. I looked into some $2000 Leicas this weekend and didn't see a $ 1800 difference.
I couldnt disagree more........
Each to his own, but you must have $ 2000 to spend on binoculars.
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Leupold olympic or nikon monarchs are great with great warrenties.
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I have the TSN- 774 with the 20-60x eyepiece Spotting scope and have spent a lot of time looking through it and trying to find a flaw! If i remember right these binos are in your price range and My parents have 2 sets they are great opticshttp://www.kowa-usa.com/kowanewweb/sporting/binoculars.html
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I have a set of leupold cascade 10x42 and i absolutly love them and their warrenty.I've dropped mine twice on the eyecup with it up sent them in and both times I got a brand new pair within 2 weeks.
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www.binoculars.com (http://www.binoculars.com)
I've got 10x42 Nikon's and will work as good as those $1000 ones. Don't get sucked into the BS. I can see as good as any of those. You only use them a few times a year anyhow. It's all hype. I looked into some $2000 Leicas this weekend and didn't see a $ 1800 difference.
I couldnt disagree more........
Each to his own, but you must have $ 2000 to spend on binoculars.
so your saying they arent that good simply because you dont?
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www.binoculars.com (http://www.binoculars.com)
I've got 10x42 Nikon's and will work as good as those $1000 ones. Don't get sucked into the BS. I can see as good as any of those. You only use them a few times a year anyhow. It's all hype. I looked into some $2000 Leicas this weekend and didn't see a $ 1800 difference.
I couldnt disagree more........
Each to his own, but you must have $ 2000 to spend on binoculars.
so your saying they arent that good simply because you dont?
Never wanted $2000 binos. If I did, I'd have them. I'd rather buy 3 handguns.
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heck, probably squeeze 4 of em out for that price lol.
I'm almost with you on what it's worth to your bank account, i think that the real idea of "need" comes out of not wanting to miss an oppourtunity. Like an OIL tag. A little lackluster performance from your glass might be the difference between that patch of fur catching your eye or not. :twocents:
to say that there isnt a difference is foolish, especially without putting them side by side in the feild. ofcourse i havent hunted with but a few of you so i dunno which of you has, but I have.
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I looked through Leicas last weekend and honestly didn't see a whole lotta difference. Alot of it is paying for the name and warrenty. I just think that's too much money for binos. Now if you need them for work, maybe I would buy a pair, maybe.
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I looked through Leicas last weekend and honestly didn't see a whole lotta difference. Alot of it is paying for the name and warrenty. I just think that's too much money for binos. Now if you need them for work, maybe I would buy a pair, maybe.
If they are for work then they are tax deductable...... i need that job.
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Yes they are.
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A couple years ago I decided I was going to buy a serious set of binos. I had $1500 in my pocket and I was set on spending all of it if I had to.
Over the course of a few days I looked at numerous high end sets and try as I might,I couldn't see a $1200+ difference over the Nikon Monarch ATBs I bought,and the Swarovskis,and Leicas I was comparing them to.
Thats not because I talked myself out of them because I didn't have the money,thats because WITH MY EYES I honestly couldn't see much difference. Like I said,I was fully prepared to drop all the coin I had on some binos.
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A couple years ago I decided I was going to buy a serious set of binos. I had $1500 in my pocket and I was set on spending all of it if I had to.
Over the course of a few days I looked at numerous high end sets and try as I might,I couldn't see a $1200+ difference over the Nikon Monarch ATBs I bought,and the Swarovskis,and Leicas I was comparing them to.
Thats not because I talked myself out of them because I didn't have the money,thats because WITH MY EYES I honestly couldn't see much difference. Like I said,I was fully prepared to drop all the coin I had on some binos.
Exfrigginactly. I hope you bought your wife a nice handgun too.