Post by: Malardman on January 06, 2011, 10:29:37 PM
Post by: Caseyd on January 06, 2011, 10:34:33 PM
Mid 2000's dodge
Recent GMC/Chevy
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 06, 2011, 10:42:13 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 06, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
Fords seem to be a really nice truck too but I don't know too much about them.
It's kinda like buying a gun or a bow...drive all of them and choose the one you're most comfortable with. Thats what it comes down to. I don't care what brand of truck you like or I like, they all have problems and your odds of getting one that will have problems are just as good or bad with whatever.
If I were buying a Dodge, I would buy an early model year 2007 Ram. The early '07's had the 5.9L Cummins in them without the DPF system. Good mileage, great power and as new as you'll get with that combo.
I don't know enough about the other ones to tell the good ones from the bad ones.
Post by: high country on January 06, 2011, 10:53:18 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on January 06, 2011, 10:54:00 PM
Post by: high country on January 06, 2011, 10:59:53 PM
For a tough truck, you cannot beat the Ford Superduty. Look at what most of the loggers drive. The ones I know say the GM car like IFS does not hold up to the logging roads, and they cannot keep transmissions in the Dodges. Personally I own a 99 F350 4x4 with a 7.3L Powerstroke.
I hear that alot, an used to even say it, but I swear I put more front end parts under my dodge then you would believe. the dang track bars would wear out on the way home from the test drive.....and the hubs, they nailed that one too. we had a few chevys with the same front end as mine at work with 200k miles and really no problems that were not self inflicted. fords are tough, but our whole fleet was a nickel and diming sob. if ford could go to grid heater and lose the plugs......big money saver.
Post by: alecvg on January 06, 2011, 11:14:41 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 07, 2011, 07:08:28 AM
I work at the Dodge dealer in the service drive, I see 30 Ram trucks a day and hardly ever do I see major trans problems.
Post by: 400out on January 07, 2011, 07:15:06 AM
The Dodge truck transmission thing has always confused me.Correct me on this jack if I'm wrong but I heard that one of the problems with dodge trans is that they don't have a pressurized reverse and people pull in their drive ways and get up in the morning when the truck is cold and the first thing the truck does is back up with no fluid going into the torque converter which wears it out prematurely :dunno:
I work at the Dodge dealer in the service drive, I see 30 Ram trucks a day and hardly ever do I see major trans problems.
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 07, 2011, 07:16:57 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on January 07, 2011, 07:17:07 AM
Post by: 400out on January 07, 2011, 07:18:56 AM
i have an older chev/duramax and couldnt ask for a better truck :twocents:Just what I think I will get for the next truck.
Post by: jackelope on January 07, 2011, 07:28:17 AM
The Dodge truck transmission thing has always confused me.Correct me on this jack if I'm wrong but I heard that one of the problems with dodge trans is that they don't have a pressurized reverse and people pull in their drive ways and get up in the morning when the truck is cold and the first thing the truck does is back up with no fluid going into the torque converter which wears it out prematurely :dunno:
I work at the Dodge dealer in the service drive, I see 30 Ram trucks a day and hardly ever do I see major trans problems.
I've never heard that before.
Post by: Widgeondeke on January 07, 2011, 07:51:31 AM
If I ever get a diesel it will be from GM :twocents:
Post by: GoldTip on January 07, 2011, 07:55:38 AM
Post by: 400out on January 07, 2011, 08:01:21 AM
Post by: MuleySniper on January 07, 2011, 08:06:56 AM
MS
Post by: MuleySniper on January 07, 2011, 08:09:59 AM
If someone would put dodges powertrain on chevy running gear with a ford body it would be the truck for me :twocents:
Ive seen em! :drool: In the magazines of course :bash:
MS
Post by: Sneaky on January 07, 2011, 08:20:17 AM
Cummins has always made a good engine, but dodge won't back that up with a decent auto tranny, or a decent anything else on the pickup.
Where I work we have yard goats with a 5.9L cummins pushing an Allison transmission. Super reliable, maybe if you sold all three of your pickups you could buy a newer dodge cummins and have an allison put in :chuckle:
Post by: FC on January 07, 2011, 08:23:31 AM
The Dodge truck transmission thing has always confused me.
I work at the Dodge dealer in the service drive, I see 30 Ram trucks a day and hardly ever do I see major trans problems.
It was early to mid 90's Dodge trucks that ate their transmissions all the time, I want to say that they finally got them straightened out around 2000. The problem was weak (for application) torque converters and truck owners taking off from every stop with their foot to the floor.
Post by: Rick on January 07, 2011, 08:26:06 AM
The Dodge truck transmission thing has always confused me.
I work at the Dodge dealer in the service drive, I see 30 Ram trucks a day and hardly ever do I see major trans problems.
Its the same old shiat that gets regurgitated when these threads show up.
Somebody knows a guy that had their Dodge tranny go out at 10,000 miles.
Another guy knows someone that had the front end fall off their GM at 12,000 miles.
Truck threads are never based on facts. Its always opinion or hearsay.
I've owned trucks from Ford,Dodge,and GM. They all had problems of some sort. You're an idiot if you think that just because you bought a certain brand,you're never going to have issues.
Drive all three and buy what YOU like the best.
Post by: high country on January 07, 2011, 08:42:23 AM
Post by: SnakeEyes on January 07, 2011, 08:50:49 AM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on January 07, 2011, 09:14:05 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 07, 2011, 09:15:14 AM
The only common(not very common but it does happen) transmission issue I see on Dodge trucks now is when the governor pressure sensor/transducer flops. It's about $600 or so to fix it. By no means is it a cheap fix but it's far from major transmission issue relatively speaking.
Post by: 400out on January 07, 2011, 09:26:53 AM
Well said, Rick.My father inlaw has this exact issue with his dodge and it comes and goes :dunno:
The only common(not very common but it does happen) transmission issue I see on Dodge trucks now is when the governor pressure sensor/transducer flops. It's about $600 or so to fix it. By no means is it a cheap fix but it's far from major transmission issue relatively speaking.
Post by: jackelope on January 07, 2011, 09:30:17 AM
What are the symptoms?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 07, 2011, 10:10:57 AM
Put a Cummins and a 6 speed in a F-350 and you would have the ultimate truck. 8)
I like the early 07 Cummins, like Jackalope said. I am quite happy with my Ford 6.0 though. But yes, the 6spd (ZF6 or the Dodge 5spd) is the way to go.
Buy the GM for the interior ergonomics, ride of a car, and brakes as best of the big three. The Dmax has as many issues as the PowerStroke and well.. Its an Isusu.
Buy the Dodge/Cummins for the torque/fuel economy. But get the manual transmission.
Buy the Ford for the looks and actual heavy load/drivability, (but upgrade the brake rotors). And don't close your eyes to the Lariet models. The interiors are near as nice as the GM.
I know that loggers bought the Dodges for quite a while, but the dashes were actually falling off! There's a good many Fords in the hills in 7.3 and 6.0 diesels that are going strong.
I would not buy a new diesel right now. Too many emissions rules and such that have them all scratching the surface of inovation. I'd wait a couple more years.
Things I like about my truck that were not available on the others when I bought mine?
MANUAL/automatic hubs.
Love the keypad door lock.
GRANNY first gear!
Very simple no mess cartridge engine oil filter.
38 gallon fuel tank that gives me more than a 600mile cruising range.
Things I don't like:
38 gallon fuel tank that gives me more than a 600mile cruising range. Cost me $116 to fill up the other day.
Air filter is a PITA to change.
Lower fuel filter should be more accessible and have a drain cock.
Trailer wire connector should be integrated into the bumper and not hang down next to the reciever.
Adding accessories that require power and subsequent switching is not a simple task with the current fuse block. Upfitter switching should be standard. (flip a switch for high idle and such)
My drivers seat with manual lumbar adjust is buckinfusted.
The 40/20/40 seats are fine, but the center section with flip down console does not slide.
No interior lighting under dash/at kick panels.
That's a pretty slim list of what I don't like about my truck. Ford F250 PSD with ZF6spd.
It rides like a tank. But well... Its a truck!
-Steve
Post by: shoot-em-dead on January 07, 2011, 10:19:06 AM
Post by: whacker1 on January 07, 2011, 10:27:18 AM
2006 Duramax - pre emmissions, and 6 speed alison
As Jackelope said early 2007 Dodge
Ford - 2003 or prior on the 7.3 motor, stay away from the 6.0 post 2003. The 6.4 I have heard mixed results on with electronics issues that are quite spendy, because the service requires pulling the cab off.
For new
They all have emmissions that have cut the Fuel Economy. I can't say which one is going to be the best, but here are a couple of links that might explain the emissions best
2011 Ford 6.7 Powerstroke - it is only 9-10 months old.
http://2011forddiesel.com/ (http://2011forddiesel.com/)
2011 Chev Duramax
http://www.thedieselpage.com/duramax/LMLDuramaxc.htm (http://www.thedieselpage.com/duramax/LMLDuramaxc.htm)
2011 Dodge
http://www.dodge.com/en/commercial/2011/ram_chassis_cab/cost_operation/diesel_exhaust/ (http://www.dodge.com/en/commercial/2011/ram_chassis_cab/cost_operation/diesel_exhaust/)
No matter which way you look at it. The newer models provide more opportunity to have failure purely to meet emissions. They do produce crazy horsepower and torgue in comparison to 10 years ago. I posted the links, because I found it interesting how each manufacturer was reaching the 2010.5 emission requirements.
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 07, 2011, 10:48:13 AM
If interior comfort (seats) the 06 and up Dodge has a better seat. My '05's suck and the '07's are great.
Post by: DRobnsn on January 07, 2011, 02:24:03 PM
Here is why I say this, most people just dump there rig at the closest auto shop and let them fix problem, well that doesn't cut it, and neither does the dealer. There main problem they use the same junk parts that failed in the first place. U need to find someone with a passion for these trucks. Who uses parts designed to actually fix the problem.
There is only one place your going to find these type of devoted diesel people, Diesel performance shops. These trucks are all they do, just think about it if they can make a race truck flat out haul ass and be reliable just imagine how reliable your stock or modified truck will be with there help.
I am a Cummins guy I have a 2001 and love it. Its probably the funnest truck I have ever owned. Yeah I trashed the stock trans at 85k but it took a 120 horsepower fueling box to do it.I took the truck to a Diesel performance shop had them build me a trans best parts you could get at the time. The truck know has 176k on it and the only other thing I have had to replace is the Injection pump, I got that from a diesel performance shop as well. I beat the crap out of it, I drag race it, pull a fifth wheel with it, pull a car trailer off and on. I also use it for hunting when needed. Personally there is only one thing I would trade this truck for, a newer Cummins.
One more thing about the transmissions in all of these diesel trucks, if you plan on adding horsepower plan on doing a trans I don't care what brand truck you have it will not last with any kind of significant power increase. Unless you never use it.
Post by: high country on January 07, 2011, 02:52:42 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on January 07, 2011, 03:21:29 PM
Said they all are leaking and need to be replaced. Again, not knockin the chev, but its another 06 Duramax, same allison tranny.
MS
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 07, 2011, 03:27:26 PM
-Steve
Post by: jackelope on January 07, 2011, 03:43:04 PM
Yeah I agree all the manufacturers have their faults. My one friend with an 07 duramax has had a lot of issues with his allison tranny. Its been in the shop a few times. Overheating and spewing fluid. He tows, but nothing outrageous and drives like an 80 year old man (speed wise :chuckle: ) Another buddy I just talked to less than an hour ago said he gets to spend the weekend replacing three lines that go to his tranny. :dunno:
Said they all are leaking and need to be replaced. Again, not knockin the chev, but its another 06 Duramax, same allison tranny.
MS
I have +/- 20 cars a day on my route sheet and at least 5-6 of them a week are getting trans cooler lines replaces...
Trans cooler lines leak on everything.
I wish there were some Fort Lewis motor pool mechs on here that could talk about the Allisons in the HumV's. I heard horror stories bout them. Some people love'm. I guess, when they work, they work well. -Steve
I left the Hummer dealership 1 year early for the Alpha1 H1 hummer with the Duramax and the Allison. Do the Military Humvees run the Allison transmissions? I guess I thought they were running 4L80's with the 6.5TD.
:dunno:
Post by: Bigshooter on January 07, 2011, 03:43:34 PM
Early 2000's ford+1
Mid 2000's dodge
Recent GMC/Chevy
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on January 07, 2011, 03:48:19 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 07, 2011, 03:50:15 PM
Early 2000's ford+1
Mid 2000's dodge
Recent GMC/Chevy
Gawd no.. I'm a Ford nut/bolt and wouldn't recommend a 2003 6.0 to anyone. Changes for 2004 were the right ones. Otherwise.. Yes, the late model 7.3 was/is a work horse.
-Steve
Post by: 400out on January 07, 2011, 03:55:32 PM
Post by: ser300wsm on January 07, 2011, 04:06:00 PM
Post by: high country on January 07, 2011, 05:34:21 PM
77 ford 3/4 highboy with a cummins :)
now you are talkin
Post by: Bofire on January 07, 2011, 05:39:19 PM
Carl :)
Post by: Malardman on January 07, 2011, 07:11:16 PM
Post by: alecvg on January 07, 2011, 08:39:34 PM
The Dodge truck transmission thing has always confused me.
I work at the Dodge dealer in the service drive, I see 30 Ram trucks a day and hardly ever do I see major trans problems.
Really? Huh. I honestly know a lot of people who have had the trannies go out on their rams. Although most of them were not stock, could that have anything to do with it?
Post by: C-Money on January 07, 2011, 08:56:04 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 07, 2011, 08:57:45 PM
I see trucks that aren't stock a lot from engine mods, lift kits, programmers, etc. Still not too many transmissions grenade...at least not on the trucks that are coming to the dealer. We have our fair share of contractors, builders, etc...trucks that get used a little.
Malardman...I'd love to hear about your problems with Rairdons and your warranty, you ought to pm me and fill me in.
Post by: DRobnsn on January 07, 2011, 09:37:10 PM
Somebody said earlier in this thread that if you're gonna add horsepower you gotta have a transmission that will handle it.
I see trucks that aren't stock a lot from engine mods, lift kits, programmers, etc. Still not too many transmissions grenade...at least not on the trucks that are coming to the dealer. We have our fair share of contractors, builders, etc...trucks that get used a little.
Malardman...I'd love to hear about your problems with Rairdons and your warranty, you ought to pm me and fill me in.
I think I said something like that earlier, I know people get away with some mods and having a trans last. Third gen Dodges seem to have a more reliable trans when it comes to adding power. Almost everyone I know with a second gen trashed the stock one with very little mods. It also depends on how you drive it and if you pay attention to warning signs or just beat it and don't care or don't know what to look for. There are a ton of variables here.
Also I'm talking about more than just +100 hp. Anything more than that you will have problems if you use it. The trans might seem to work fine but its time is coming if you keep it up.
I'm in no way trying to start something with you. Just stating what I have seen.
Here is an example of what I mean. I'm sure some people have heard of source automotive if not they are a diesel performance shop in portland good people and great service if you ask me.
Anyway I was at the Portland 1/4 mile track last year, the owner of said shop was there with his 08 6.7l Mega cab with many,many mods including twin turbos but essentially the truck had a stock trans they figured the truck would make over 800hp to the ground but with the stock trans the truck would only run a best time somewhere in the low 14 sec E.T.
There was another 6.7L truck there about the same year but lifted and not a mega cab. The truck only had a few mods main one being an Edge Juice W/attitude adds somewhere around 150 hp could be more depending on program, this truck also had a stock trans but would run the almost the same E.T. as the other truck.
Why do they run the same when one makes twice the power, simple the power is being lost in the trans and not going to the ground. Slippage in the converter and clutch packs. The trans still works its just not going to forever in those conditions.
Post by: high country on January 07, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
Post by: KimberRich on January 11, 2011, 01:12:12 PM
My 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 CTD Laramie 6" Fabtech lift, 35" Toyo MT's 83,000mi..... Lets start, ball joints every 5-7K uppers and lowers, u-joints rear, Power seat motors, power window motor x2, wiper motor, headliner due to leaking, drivers seat heater, steering gear box due to pissing out fluid x2, front axle u-joints x2, one wheel bearing driver, 2 injectors, rear main seal, 2 tranny's need a 3rd now >:(, heater core, front end recall upgrade, put in a aftermarket track bar by Carli suspension uses heim joints :tup: I'm sure there is more I'm forgeting and I'm in the process of SUING RAIRDONS DUE TO F-ING US ON OUR WARRANTY note all replacment parts are Mopar/Cummins Replacment parts. I love this truck but I hate it at the same time!!!!
Yikes that's a lot of problems. But some of those things you've got to expect in a heavy duty lifted truck with that much power.. U joints, ball joints, axle u joints, and even the tranny and steering issues can be linked to changing drive angles and the added stress. I've owned lifted diesel trucks and have experienced the same issue. As for the other stuff.. That sucks and they should stand behind their product. Hope you get your warranty issues figured out.
Post by: KimberRich on January 11, 2011, 01:22:00 PM
Bought a '05 F250 SD Lariat Crew. Like it so far. If it acts up I'll sell it and buy a Dodge then I can comment on each truck. I'm sure this debate will still be going!!
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 11, 2011, 01:29:19 PM
I had to put a south bend in my dodge after I ran through the stocker...pay to play
Yup, mine lasted all the way until 35,000. It now has the SB 3250 dual disk. ;D
Post by: NWwildman on January 11, 2011, 02:17:16 PM
Post by: thinkingman on January 12, 2011, 05:36:00 PM
I don't have a dog in this fight but nobody with a lift kit should complain about anything wearing out.My 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 CTD Laramie 6" Fabtech lift, 35" Toyo MT's 83,000mi..... Lets start, ball joints every 5-7K uppers and lowers, u-joints rear, Power seat motors, power window motor x2, wiper motor, headliner due to leaking, drivers seat heater, steering gear box due to pissing out fluid x2, front axle u-joints x2, one wheel bearing driver, 2 injectors, rear main seal, 2 tranny's need a 3rd now >:(, heater core, front end recall upgrade, put in a aftermarket track bar by Carli suspension uses heim joints :tup: I'm sure there is more I'm forgeting and I'm in the process of SUING RAIRDONS DUE TO F-ING US ON OUR WARRANTY note all replacment parts are Mopar/Cummins Replacment parts. I love this truck but I hate it at the same time!!!!
Yikes that's a lot of problems. But some of those things you've got to expect in a heavy duty lifted truck with that much power.. U joints, ball joints, axle u joints, and even the tranny and steering issues can be linked to changing drive angles and the added stress. I've owned lifted diesel trucks and have experienced the same issue. As for the other stuff.. That sucks and they should stand behind their product. Hope you get your warranty issues figured out.
Lift kits just kill components.
Post by: FC on January 12, 2011, 05:50:20 PM
Lift kits just kill components.
Lift kits wear everything out on a truck MUCH faster due to all the altered angles, anyone who says or thinks otherwise is delusional. Not to mention most people who get their trucks lifted drive them like meatheads and constantly break *censored*. People who drive big diesel pickups and stomp on the gas from every stop pay transmission shops mortgages. Diesel truck owners all like to say that the truck is built for it yada yada, go jump in a tractor-trailer rig and just stomp on the gas from a stop, you'll twist that driveline out so fast you won't get your foot off the gas before it starts banging around under the truck!
Post by: jackelope on January 13, 2011, 09:49:58 AM
The guy hauls travel trailers all over the US and Canada.
Post by: Caseyd on January 13, 2011, 10:07:55 AM
I just wrote up a 2008 Ram Dually with the 6.7L diesel that has 456k miles on it....... :yike:
The guy hauls travel trailers all over the US and Canada.
Hows that even possible :yike:
Average of 60mph = 7,600 hours of driving per year = 20 hours per day (all 356 days) :yike: :yike: :yike:
Post by: KimberRich on January 13, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
I just wrote up a 2008 Ram Dually with the 6.7L diesel that has 456k miles on it....... :yike:
The guy hauls travel trailers all over the US and Canada.
Wow. That's some driving right there. You know what problems, if any, he's had?
Post by: Caseyd on January 13, 2011, 10:11:40 AM
I just wrote up a 2008 Ram Dually with the 6.7L diesel that has 456k miles on it....... :yike:
The guy hauls travel trailers all over the US and Canada.
Wow. That's some driving right there. You know what problems, if any, he's had?
Yeah he wore a hole in the drivers seat :chuckle:
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 13, 2011, 10:13:02 AM
Post by: Malardman on January 13, 2011, 06:22:54 PM
Lift kits don't kill all componets, it's usually tire size and I'm only running 35's.... I'm 32 years old and don't hot-rod my crap anymore cause I want it to last. This 05 has had problems since the get go. Rairdons sold it lifted sold me the warranty and now they won't fix it. My warranty company came out viewed the truck and laughed, were not covering crap on that truck anymore it's lifted void the warranty..... here lies the problem you sold it lifted, you sold the warranty truck is covered till 125k it has 83k and it's broke and they are going to pay for it!!!! >:(I don't have a dog in this fight but nobody with a lift kit should complain about anything wearing out.My 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 CTD Laramie 6" Fabtech lift, 35" Toyo MT's 83,000mi..... Lets start, ball joints every 5-7K uppers and lowers, u-joints rear, Power seat motors, power window motor x2, wiper motor, headliner due to leaking, drivers seat heater, steering gear box due to pissing out fluid x2, front axle u-joints x2, one wheel bearing driver, 2 injectors, rear main seal, 2 tranny's need a 3rd now >:(, heater core, front end recall upgrade, put in a aftermarket track bar by Carli suspension uses heim joints :tup: I'm sure there is more I'm forgeting and I'm in the process of SUING RAIRDONS DUE TO F-ING US ON OUR WARRANTY note all replacment parts are Mopar/Cummins Replacment parts. I love this truck but I hate it at the same time!!!!
Yikes that's a lot of problems. But some of those things you've got to expect in a heavy duty lifted truck with that much power.. U joints, ball joints, axle u joints, and even the tranny and steering issues can be linked to changing drive angles and the added stress. I've owned lifted diesel trucks and have experienced the same issue. As for the other stuff.. That sucks and they should stand behind their product. Hope you get your warranty issues figured out.
Lift kits just kill components.
My 2002 dodge ram had it's fair share of problems but never ball joints, u-joints or anything but tranny and fuel issues, it was lifted on 37's and had it till 140k.
My 95 F350 over 300k never a ball-joint, tie-rod end, yes u-joints a couple of times and it was lifted on 38'' swampers and I beat the tar out of it I was 19 yes it got wheeled mud bogged and a bunch of other stupid crap.. but it was a DAMN GOOD TRUCK THEY SHOULD ALL BE BUILT TUFF LIKE IT STILL..
Post by: Malardman on January 13, 2011, 06:27:45 PM
Post by: FC on January 13, 2011, 06:58:37 PM
Post by: high country on January 13, 2011, 07:29:13 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 13, 2011, 08:06:37 PM
I just wrote up a 2008 Ram Dually with the 6.7L diesel that has 456k miles on it....... :yike:
The guy hauls travel trailers all over the US and Canada.
Wow. That's some driving right there. You know what problems, if any, he's had?
I talked to the guy and asked him what major problems he's had...
-both front axle universal joints
-1 front wheel bearing
-rebuilt rear diff
-we replaced the original alternator today
All of this stuff was done north of 400k miles.
We did the alternator in the parking lot with the 29' travel trailer still hooked up. He said he averages an oil change every 2 weeks.
He's from Ohio,
Post by: FC on January 13, 2011, 08:56:11 PM
I suppose if you call increased leverage on brakes, added load to engine and tyranny, added width which increases leverage on bearings....etc, then big tires don't change a thing.
Sigh...I don't suppose you are a mechanic are you? NOT. The load additions are minimal concern to the design as all trucks are over built in that respect by a very large margin.
Post by: dewandgin on January 13, 2011, 09:28:40 PM
I just wrote up a 2008 Ram Dually with the 6.7L diesel that has 456k miles on it....... :yike:
The guy hauls travel trailers all over the US and Canada.
Wow. That's some driving right there. You know what problems, if any, he's had?
I talked to the guy and asked him what major problems he's had...
-both front axle universal joints
-1 front wheel bearing
-rebuilt rear diff
-we replaced the original alternator today
All of this stuff was done north of 400k miles.
We did the alternator in the parking lot with the 29' travel trailer still hooked up. He said he averages an oil change every 2 weeks.
He's from Ohio,
We have a local company that has a fleet of Dmax's that they use for delivery and expediting of goods. Their 08 has 190k and they have two 06's with 300k plus. No engine or trans or diff work. A couple of wheel bearings and normal maintenance is all so far. Have seen more than one Dmax with 500k plus. Owned a Cummins for 5 years and it ran great but transmission sucked. We were a Chrysler store until the great take away but our trans guy was the busiest guy in the shop by a long shot.
Post by: high country on January 13, 2011, 09:36:54 PM
I suppose if you call increased leverage on brakes, added load to engine and tyranny, added width which increases leverage on bearings....etc, then big tires don't change a thing.
Sigh...I don't suppose you are a mechanic are you? NOT. The load additions are minimal concern to the design as all trucks are over built in that respect by a very large margin.
[/quoterI suppose if you call increased leverage on brakes, added load to engine and tyranny, added width which increases leverage on bearings....etc, then big tires don't change a thing.
Sigh...I don't suppose you are a mechanic are you? NOT. The load additions are minimal concern to the design as all trucks are over built in that respect by a very large margin.
Just remember you are your own warranty station once you start modding. What you may want to consider there wise one is tire height is a multiplier that is working against you at 6800 lbs......or 21k. You don't have to go through an apprenticeship to figure that out....but perhaps you should.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on January 13, 2011, 10:29:15 PM
We did the alternator in the parking lot with the 29' travel trailer still hooked up.
Reminds me of the morning leaving for the '05 Deer season opener. Went out to get in the truck and fire it up at 4am. Wouldn't start. So I jumped it to get going. Once running it was OK. Let it idle for a few min then hit the lights to leave. BAM. Everything shut off. Batteries were dead. So, we unhitched the Cherokee off the tow bar and headed to Wally world to grab a set of batteries. Got back and had the new ones installed at 5:15. Got on the road and went over Hwy 20. By the time we got to Twisp, the volt meter was dipping very low. I knew the Alternator was shot. I went into the NAPA there and bought a new alternator. The guy was going to do the paperwork for the core charge and I told him not to bother, Ill be back in a few. Went out to the parking lot, popped the hood, and had the alternator changed out in 9min flat. Should of seen the look on the guys face behind the counter. :chuckle:
Post by: wsucowboy on January 13, 2011, 11:08:47 PM
Post by: FC on January 13, 2011, 11:17:15 PM
Just remember you are your own warranty station once you start modding. What you may want to consider there wise one is tire height is a multiplier that is working against you at 6800 lbs......or 21k. You don't have to go through an apprenticeship to figure that out....but perhaps you should.
It's ok man, you can admit that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to trucks and no one will be shocked. You need to pay closer attention, ALL trucks are massively over-built anymore, I've worked on an awful lot of trucks and when it comes to brakes, wheel bearings etc the lifted ones with big tires really don't need any special attention over the stock ones. Not until you get to the land of the ridiculous anyway, 40 should be considered an absolute max for tire size. Most of the problems that lifted trucks with big tires incur over stock are operator induced.
Post by: CastleRocker on January 13, 2011, 11:47:34 PM
Post by: DRobnsn on January 13, 2011, 11:48:50 PM
I'm not convinced Ford is any better I know people who have had to put ball joints in at less than 50k.
My 01 Cummins has Dana axles w/176k,35 inch tires and MANY 10-20 psi boosted 4x4 launches at the race track as well as off road driving using 4x4 and it still has the original ball and u joints.
PS my truck had 120k on it before it needed brakes.
Post by: high country on January 14, 2011, 08:21:39 AM
I won't get suckered into your 12 year old game, but if you wanna learn a little some time, open eyes and ears and close mouth. I never disagreed that trucks are built plenty heavy to take bigger tires, but by doing so you are getting into the fine print on virtually every warranty service plan that has been written. I would put my expierience of mechanics against yurs anytime. you may want to research who you call out.
Just remember you are your own warranty station once you start modding. What you may want to consider there wise one is tire height is a multiplier that is working against you at 6800 lbs......or 21k. You don't have to go through an apprenticeship to figure that out....but perhaps you should.
It's ok man, you can admit that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to trucks and no one will be shocked. You need to pay closer attention, ALL trucks are massively over-built anymore, I've worked on an awful lot of trucks and when it comes to brakes, wheel bearings etc the lifted ones with big tires really don't need any special attention over the stock ones. Not until you get to the land of the ridiculous anyway, 40 should be considered an absolute max for tire size. Most of the problems that lifted trucks with big tires incur over stock are operator induced.
Post by: jackelope on January 14, 2011, 08:29:19 AM
By the way I have no engine mods this truck is just a sure POS! Wish I would of bought it new, lemon law the BITCH
Dude, you ought to contact a lawyer or something. I can tell you for a fact that it is not the 1st time Rairdon's has been in that position...selling warranrty's on lifted or mod'ed vehicles and then the service contract won't cover when they look at them. It's service contract 101...don't sell a service contract on a mod'ed vehicle.
Have you contacted a sales manager/general manager/service manager? What location?
Post by: Woodchuck on January 14, 2011, 09:05:01 AM
Post by: TheHunt on January 14, 2011, 09:22:17 AM
I would buy one again but here is where I would go.
Buy the very base model with NO electric mirrors, electric windows, or any of that crap other then Air Cond. It does not matter what you buy that crap goes out and cost you money.
Manual transmission is seems to have less problem then an automatic from the people who own them. It could be because there are more automatic transmissions out there then manual transmissions.
I like the 6 cylinder cummings from a fuel consumption perspective. But many people have to fix the front end of a Dodge and replace those standard components with high end component.
Great topic...
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 14, 2011, 09:53:59 AM
Most definitely lift kits and over sized tires change the geometry of the truck and adds increase wear on hard parts. The biggest mistake people make with oversized tires that increases the wear on hard parts is turning the wheel when the tires are not moving. This causes enormous increased stress on the ball's and axle shaft U's, let alone the steering parts.
For the guy who has the issues with '05 from Rairdon's........if you choose to keep that truck, throw that Fab Tech kit in the dumpster and get yourself a BDS long arm kit. This is a good start to fixing the all kinds of jacked up geometry that a Fab Tech kit puts you through.
U-joints and ball joints. Nah, you don't need to blow the coin on Carli parts. Buy yourself a good set of Spicer HD greaseable joints and call it a day. Ball joints are different story. The lowers we are all screwed. Can't get a u-joint with a zirk on it since the axle shaft joint will hit the lower ball's zirk. The only way around this is spend the hour per side and pull the axle's, remove the bolt that plugs the zirk hole and drop your zirk in and squeeze some grease in. Do this every 15-20k and you'll get a whole lot more life out of the lower ball's. The upper ball's will accept the zirk.
The other thing to consider with lifted trucks also is the carrier bearing angle. There is a specific range of degrees on that bearing, which I cannot remember what it is. But basically if you have a 6" lift, your looking at adding a 2" spacer to correct the carrier angle.
Post by: flinger on January 15, 2011, 08:42:24 PM
Post by: seth30 on January 15, 2011, 08:48:31 PM