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Title: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
I picked up a CVA Elkhorn Pro Magnum at a pawn shop today, they wanted $135.00 but I asked if he could go any lower and he said $120.00 was as low as he could go  :), so I bought it for $120.00  :chuckle:  Looks really clean, no scratches.
My first Muzzy so if anyone thats shoots the Elkhorn has any advise on loads and such let me know, any info is appreciated.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: Lowedog on January 13, 2011, 03:03:26 PM
Nice score!  Always smart to stop in and check out pawn shops.  I have scored a couple good deals on bows.

Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: shoot-em-dead on January 13, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
sweet- I've done muzzle a few seasons and it is fun. Funnest part is finding a good load. No two muzzle loaders shoot the same so it takes a ton of shooting to find out what yours likes the best. Have fun and a nice score is right.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2011, 03:22:25 PM
209 primers are illegal in Washington. I hope it uses the right ignition source.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2011, 04:37:44 PM
209 primers are illegal in Washington. I hope it uses the right ignition source.
its legal, it shoots 209 #11 and musket caps.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: BlackRidge on January 13, 2011, 04:56:49 PM
All 3 kinda?! Wow, good find
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: 400out on January 13, 2011, 05:25:58 PM
Nice find!!  ;)
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2011, 05:49:13 PM
209 primers are illegal in Washington. I hope it uses the right ignition source.
its legal, it shoots 209 #11 and musket caps.

Good deal. I wasn't sure about that one. Cool !
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 13, 2011, 05:57:05 PM
I shoot one as my main gun. There is some good info in here about them. I shoot the 290 b tmz bullets with either pyro rs or triple 7 always loose. Play with it and see what it likes for a charge, and a bullet and you will do good.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: Jason on January 14, 2011, 10:25:50 PM
Ordered up nipple and breech plug wrench's today, extra breech plug and nipples, a 4 in 1 loader, a couple speed loaders
and a bullet starter.
What are the essentials needed for cleaning? and what do you muzzy boys like best?
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: bobcat on January 14, 2011, 10:33:33 PM
Dish soap and hot water, and some cotton patches.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: bobcat on January 14, 2011, 10:34:20 PM
Oh, I often also use Windex, either by itself, or with the hot water.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today
Post by: Jason on January 16, 2011, 06:10:31 PM
For you guys that shoot sabot's, do you have to clean after every shot? I watched a video and the guys said that if you shoot sabots that you have to clean the plastic out after every shot  :dunno:

Anybody using WhiteHots pellets?
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: dawhunt on January 16, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
I belive that the white hot pellets are for 209 only ??? I shoot sabots in mine clean the barrel every shot when sighting in after its sighted in ., I shoot 4-5 times before cleaning again.No proplems

I think he might have meant just when your sighting the gun in and its not a real cleaning, I just run a DAMP !!!( NOT A WET PATCH !!) patch thru the barrel a couple times then a dry patch a couple times the load her up and shoot agin.
Bob
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 16, 2011, 07:26:00 PM
White hots are more for the 209's. I don't know anyone who shoots them. When i am sighting in, i clean between every shot.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: Smokepole on January 18, 2011, 07:14:35 AM
Really nice find.  Might have to keep my eye out at the pawn shops from now on.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: Jason on February 14, 2011, 10:07:43 PM
Woo Hooo  :whoo: :whoo: :whoo:
well after spending over $250 in accessories  :yike: I finally get to shoot the Elkhorn tomorrow
heading down to English Pit with a buddy.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 14, 2011, 10:37:10 PM
Good luck shoot strait.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: Smokepole on February 15, 2011, 07:43:24 AM
Sounds fun.  Hopefully the weather is nice for you guys.  We tried to go shooting on Saturday, but kept getting our caps and powder wet.  Managed only a few shots & went home.  Sure look forward to trying our guns out on some new R.E.A.L. bullets soon as it warms up.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: Jason on February 15, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
The Elkhorn shot Great! weather was ok, rained at times, good thing its all covered.
Had a hell of a time getting the TMZ's down the barrel, not going to shoot those anymore,
I'll try TEZ's but not the TMZ's, I'm going to try the Powerbelts when I get some.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: Smokepole on February 15, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
Seems like power belts are usually pretty easy to load.  I have trouble loading sabots, so I use a lot of Bore Butter to get them to go down easier.  The R.E.A.L bullets we made just dropped right in, which was weird after bending my rod on sabots so many times.  I think I'm gonna like that mold.  We shot a few off hand and got some rough groups, so we know we can get them dialed in.  Bring on the warm dry weather & we'll brew up some smoke!
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: bobcat on February 15, 2011, 04:22:31 PM
If a certain bullet/sabot combination is difficult to load, you can always try the same bullet with a different sabot. I have been using a sabot made by Harvester called they call the "crush rib" sabot. They are available directly from Harvester's website.

An article that bearpaw posted recently in topic on muzzleloader bullets may be helpful:

http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/muzzleloader/muzzleloader-accuracy/ (http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/muzzleloader/muzzleloader-accuracy/)


Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: Jason on February 15, 2011, 05:01:06 PM
Today was the first time I shot a muzzleloader, after a couple shots my buddy looks over at me as
I'm struggling to get these TMZ"S down the barrel without bending my ramrod and he say's
"what the f*** is your malfunction" ?: :dunno:  :chuckle:. I started off cleaning after every shot,
then we tried lubing the sabots with bore butter, that helped, but they were still tight.

I'm not sure this muzzy was shot much because the ramrod looked new, it doesn't look so new now.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: bobcat on February 15, 2011, 05:09:04 PM
Sounds like you didn't have a short starter. You'll want to pick one up just for the times that you can barely get a bullet started. I don't use mine often but when I need it it sure comes in handy.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: Jason on February 15, 2011, 05:16:07 PM
Sounds like you didn't have a short starter. You'll want to pick one up just for the times that you can barely get a bullet started. I don't use mine often but when I need it it sure comes in handy.
I have this one, used it alot today, I even bought the TMZ loading jags to go with it.
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: bobcat on February 15, 2011, 05:18:02 PM
Oh ok, so your ramrod was still bending quite a bit when pushing the bullet down the barrel? (after you started it with the short starter) ??
Title: Re: Pawn Shop score today-CVA ElkHorn
Post by: Jason on February 15, 2011, 05:20:25 PM
Oh ok, so your ramrod was still bending quite a bit when pushing the bullet down the barrel? (after you started it with the short starter) ??
Yep, it would have been a bitch without the bullet starter.
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