Post by: turkey slayer on January 23, 2011, 07:37:14 AM
Post by: lokidog on January 23, 2011, 08:18:43 AM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on January 23, 2011, 08:20:54 AM
Post by: turkey slayer on January 23, 2011, 08:26:57 AM
Post by: MAVsled on January 23, 2011, 09:14:03 AM
Post by: saylean on January 23, 2011, 09:36:15 AM
Post by: gonehuntin68 on January 23, 2011, 10:38:47 AM
Post by: shedcrazy on January 23, 2011, 10:59:16 AM
Post by: Birdguy on January 23, 2011, 11:19:10 AM
Time to thin the herdLooks like the thinning of the herd will be taken care of :yike:. More likely time to thin the pride (or whatever you call a group of mountain lions). Certainly makes one wonder, how long can our ecosystem support all this :bdid:. Not long would be my guess.
Post by: Alan K on January 23, 2011, 11:20:48 AM
:bdid: :yike:
Post by: saylean on January 23, 2011, 11:55:07 AM
52 weeks in a year...
8 cats in the last pic...
52X8=416 deer in one year gone...give or take...
Post by: NWBREW on January 23, 2011, 12:02:01 PM
Post by: turkey slayer on January 23, 2011, 12:32:47 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on January 23, 2011, 12:38:36 PM
Post by: woodywsu on January 23, 2011, 01:11:19 PM
Post by: PolarBear on January 23, 2011, 01:26:25 PM
I look at that pic and see a great place to dump some industrial strength rat killer.
Post by: Ranger91298 on January 23, 2011, 02:01:34 PM
8 cats on that last pic...must be a hungry bunch!I count 9 in that last picture... the one close up to the camera and right in the middle you can see the back of the cat but you can't see the head..
Post by: cx2vandine on January 23, 2011, 02:48:33 PM
Post by: one more on January 23, 2011, 07:36:39 PM
What area are they in?
Diane
Post by: Gringo31 on January 23, 2011, 07:48:50 PM
Post by: wsucowboy on January 23, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
Post by: throttlejocky20 on January 24, 2011, 06:16:25 PM
Post by: eatonville45 on January 25, 2011, 04:51:05 PM
Post by: turkey slayer on January 25, 2011, 07:05:51 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on January 25, 2011, 08:10:13 PM
Post by: patton1 on January 25, 2011, 11:53:18 PM
You stole my post. :)8 cats on that last pic...must be a hungry bunch!I count 9 in that last picture... the one close up to the camera and right in the middle you can see the back of the cat but you can't see the head..
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 25, 2011, 11:57:21 PM
Post by: zackmioli on January 26, 2011, 01:29:18 AM
Dang! :mgun2:x2
Post by: billythekidrock on January 26, 2011, 05:25:46 AM
you know there numbers are outa whack when more than 2 or 3 are together, not natural
Actually it is very natural to have a mother with multiple young together considering they may stay with her for up to two years.
Post by: Houndhunter on January 26, 2011, 05:29:40 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on January 26, 2011, 05:36:43 AM
You stole my post. :)8 cats on that last pic...must be a hungry bunch!I count 9 in that last picture... the one close up to the camera and right in the middle you can see the back of the cat but you can't see the head..
C'mon guys....clean your glasses. There are "only" :chuckle: 8. What you think is the back of a cat is actually a snow covered rock.
Post by: rjn cajun on January 26, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Post by: jackmaster on January 27, 2011, 07:36:01 AM
Post by: Hornseeker on January 27, 2011, 12:19:44 PM
The one a week figure is an avg... not a rule. They will kill more, they will kill less...
I love cougars, I think they are the coolest animal in the woods by far... BUT... I also like to kill them...just like I like to kill about any other animal that roams the woods!!! ;)
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 27, 2011, 01:02:08 PM
where i hunt is all timber not a clearcut in sight, and i found 3 cougar kills within 100 yrds of each other 2 of them were young healthy bucks the other a young doe, i was just surprised because when i was young i was told that cougars hunt out of need....B.S...... they hunt for fun, they are just kittys playing with toys and only return to kills when they havent made a fresh kill, and they kill as many deer a week as they can, not one a weekThey are big into surplus killing. Especially the younger toms. The one deer a week study was done in Idaho using some older tracking techniques. They didn't account for all the rabbits and birds that cougars eat too (they just assumed a biomass equivalent). Other studies are showing higher consumption. One in California shows them eating about 6 deer a week. They eat the meat if it is 'fresh', so for example a deer killed in warm weather may only be half consumed while a deer killed mid winter in the snowy parts can be completely devoured. Deer size also makes a difference---twelve 20 pound fawns or one 240 pound buck or a 600 pound elk.
Post by: snowyaker on January 27, 2011, 08:16:58 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on January 28, 2011, 07:34:08 AM
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Post by: rjn cajun on January 31, 2011, 10:30:02 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 01, 2011, 05:52:18 AM
Post by: turkey slayer on February 01, 2011, 07:48:50 PM
Post by: frostman on February 16, 2011, 07:05:13 PM
Both e-mails I received had this tag line on it -
"The wife of a rancher who lives about 25-30 miles from Soap
Lake, WA sent these pictures which were taken nine miles from her house. A
cow was
found killed and the trail cam was put in place to see what was
preying on it.
The weather was so weird that tracks won't stay long. You can
count up to eight cats in two of the pictures.
Who'd ever heard of eight cougars at a kill site?
They're acting more like a pride of lions than the
solitary cougars they normally are."
The jpeg pics name says: taken at liberty ordchards palisades, wa just south of wenatchee.
Wenatchee and Soap Lake? Where is Palisades, Wa?
Not sure if some one's dickin with us all?
Post by: mulehunter on February 16, 2011, 07:28:43 PM
I received these game cam pitures on e-mail a couple different times in last couple weeks. The last e-mail I received on this was also questioning whether it might have been photo shopped. I intended to post the pictures tonight to ask the same questions I am seeing on this thread.
Both e-mails I received had this tag line on it -
"The wife of a rancher who lives about 25-30 miles from Soap
Lake, WA sent these pictures which were taken nine miles from her house. A
cow was
found killed and the trail cam was put in place to see what was
preying on it.
The weather was so weird that tracks won't stay long. You can
count up to eight cats in two of the pictures.
Who'd ever heard of eight cougars at a kill site?
They're acting more like a pride of lions than the
solitary cougars they normally are."
The jpeg pics name says: taken at liberty ordchards palisades, wa just south of wenatchee.
Wenatchee and Soap Lake? Where is Palisades, Wa?
Not sure if some one's dickin with us all?
Yes. That's where I grew up back of area. If u going from wentachee to Quincy. U would pass rock island and few miles past on ur left name palisades rd.all way anywhere u want to find place to hunt cougars. Between soap lake and rock island. I am telling u people. I know several strongly ranchers out there try keep all hunter out. Even they own horse and scouting around their area sometime. No wonder cougars are safe out there. U got to ask them nicely and if they can let u hike above cliffs and wheat field. U wont have trouble find cougars. Hundreds of deer out there.
Hope it help u people. ;) because I know this area very well.
Mulehunter
Post by: mulehunter on February 16, 2011, 07:40:56 PM
Mulehunter.
Post by: dp1175 on February 17, 2011, 10:04:13 PM
a hunter captured 8 cougars at one time on a trail cam in douglas county. i know where he will be with a cougar tag.
Post by: 6x6in6 on February 17, 2011, 10:05:26 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on February 17, 2011, 10:06:40 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on February 17, 2011, 10:08:24 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 17, 2011, 10:11:41 PM
Post by: Big D on February 18, 2011, 04:51:09 AM
Post by: 509er on February 18, 2011, 05:12:44 AM
Post by: Rooster1981 on February 18, 2011, 08:53:16 AM
Its crazy, I sure hope SB-5356 go's through. These photo's came out at a perfect time.
Post by: Wenatcheejay on February 18, 2011, 02:57:45 PM
DOUGLAS COUNTY — They don’t exactly hunt in packs, don’t travel in herds and aren’t typically thought of as communal beings.
The image of the mountain lion as a stealthy, solitary beast is woven into the fabric of the American West.
And yet there they were on a game trail in Douglas County — eight creatures famous for being loners, all huddled together as if attending some big-cat block party.
Brad Thomas captured the images a few days before Christmas on a trail camera, triggered by a motion sensor, set up on private land.
“The pictures are 100 percent legit,” said Jon Gallie, the assistant district biologist with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife in Wenatchee.
Thomas initially set the cameras up along an old cattle trail to get pictures of deer and bobcat. What he mostly captured instead were cougars — first one, then two and eventually many more.
“I was tickled pink,” said Thomas, 54, a Wenatchee resident. “I’d never even seen a cougar.”
“It’s a pretty outstanding thing to see, even for those of us who do this for a living,” said Gary Koehler, a carnivore specialist with Fish and Wildlife.
Washington state is home to some 2,000 to 2,500 cougars.
Gallie’s best guess is that the photos show a female cougar with her three kittens and a daughter from a previous litter with her three kittens. Females sometimes set up home ranges near their mothers and have occasional rendezvous.
Beyond that, neither Gallie, Koehler, nor other wildlife biologists could say with any certainty what was happening in the pictures.
“We don’t know if this was a chance event, or something they communicated,” Koehler said. “Perhaps it’s like bumping into your neighbor when you go out to get the mail.
“We’re starting to discover that they’re just more social than we once thought,” he continued. “Not like African lions, of course. But they do a lot of communicating.”
“What’s interesting from the landowner’s perspective is, there’s cattle all around there, and no one’s reported a loss. Those cougars are behaving like they should,” Gallie said. There have also been no complaints from people about losing pets, or any concerns about safety, he said.
Evidence of this many cougars in one area is no cause for concern, he added. “We’ve not had any problems. We’re just worried people will see this and think the hills are covered. We don’t want to see pitchforks and torches hit the hills.”
World staff writer K.C. Mehaffey contributed to this report.
Post by: jackelope on February 18, 2011, 03:06:00 PM
Apparently it's in the Seattle Times today, the Portland news on TV, some other local paper, etc...
Post by: Wenatcheejay on February 18, 2011, 04:02:18 PM
Post by: 509er on February 18, 2011, 04:04:33 PM
Post by: Lowedog on February 18, 2011, 04:29:20 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 18, 2011, 04:48:12 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on February 18, 2011, 04:52:55 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on February 18, 2011, 04:53:39 PM
But our nice and cheerie wildlife official states this:
“What’s interesting from the landowner’s perspective is, there’s cattle all around there, and no one’s reported a loss. Those cougars are behaving like they should,” Gallie said. There have also been no complaints from people about losing pets, or any concerns about safety, he said.
Did the reporter ask the wildlife "professional" what the cougars are eating?
Post by: Caseyd on February 18, 2011, 04:53:42 PM
It's all part of the master plan!
:chuckle: :bash:
We are all so mean and cruel that we are forcing them to run in packs ;)
Post by: Lowedog on February 18, 2011, 05:09:24 PM
It's all part of the master plan!
:chuckle: :bash:
We are all so mean and cruel that we are forcing them to run in packs ;)
It is even more diabolical than that!!! :devil:
Post by: turkeyfeather on February 18, 2011, 05:10:20 PM
Do you still think there isn't a problem? I suppose your going to stick your head in the sand and say it's a fluke (just like the wolves).
Post by: smartazz171 on March 02, 2011, 03:50:22 PM
"A woman who lives about 2-3 miles from Lake Oroville sent these pictures which were taken just 1 mile from Forbestown. A cow was found killed and the trail cam was put in place to see what was preying on it.
You can count up to eight cats in one of the pictures. Who'd ever heard of
eight cougars at a kill site. They're starting to act more like a pride of lions than
the solitary cougars they normally are." -Uncle Ron
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 02, 2011, 03:51:27 PM
Post by: gasman on March 02, 2011, 03:53:38 PM
And it was found to be a couple females with there kittens :dunno:
Post by: BIGINNER on March 02, 2011, 03:53:52 PM
THATS WHAT, LIKE 8? I BETS ITS A MOM AND HER DAUGHTER AND EACH HAVE A LITTER OF 3 CUBS :yike: :yike:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: h20hunter on March 02, 2011, 03:54:37 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on March 02, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
The last time we had these pic up on here they came from Wenatchee area :dunno:
And it was found to be a couple females with there kittens :dunno:
THE GUY ON THE HELOCOPTER PROBABLY TRANSPORTED THEM TO CALIFORNIA :chuckle: :chuckle:
AND BIGFOOT HELPED HIM DO IT :yike: :bdid:
Post by: gasman on March 02, 2011, 03:56:13 PM
The last time we had these pic up on here they came from Wenatchee area :dunno:
And it was found to be a couple females with there kittens :dunno:
THE GUY ON THE HELOCOPTER PROBABLY TRANSPORTED THEM TO CALIFORNIA :chuckle: :chuckle:
AND BIGFOOT HELPED HIM DO IT :yike: :bdid:
:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Dam them......
Post by: boneaddict on March 02, 2011, 04:33:28 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 02, 2011, 04:41:17 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on March 02, 2011, 05:08:57 PM
The last time we had these pic up on here they came from Wenatchee area :dunno:
And it was found to be a couple females with there kittens :dunno:
[/quoteyou are so right
Post by: 400out on March 02, 2011, 05:34:03 PM
Post by: hoyt2002 on March 02, 2011, 05:38:10 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 02, 2011, 05:44:32 PM
http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2011/feb/18/cougar-pride-wenatchee-hunter-catches-eight-big/ (http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2011/feb/18/cougar-pride-wenatchee-hunter-catches-eight-big/)
Post by: Lowedog on March 02, 2011, 05:49:20 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 02, 2011, 09:23:08 PM
Post by: wsucowboy on March 02, 2011, 09:26:14 PM
I heard the guy actually snuck up on those cats and took those pics manually with his trail cam!! Oh yeah and it was in Kirkland!True story it was king 5 tonight. :chuckle:
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 02, 2011, 09:40:23 PM
Post by: lumpyd on March 03, 2011, 07:13:25 PM
Have to admit. These have to be the most famous LORE trailcam pics ever. :chuckle: I know the guy who knows the guy who owns those cameras and they're not from california. :chuckle::yeah: Palisades...Douglas Co.
Post by: blacktailer on March 03, 2011, 08:54:00 PM
Here kitty, kitty...
A woman who lives about 25-30 miles from Soap Lake, WA sent these
pictures which were taken nine miles from her house. A cow was found
killed and the trail cam was put in place to see what was preying on it.
The weather was so weird that tracks won't stay long. You can count up
to eight cats in one of the pictures. Who'd ever heard of eight cougars
at a kill site. They're acting more like a pride of lions than the
solitary cougars they normally are.
Post by: bobcat on March 03, 2011, 08:57:25 PM
Post by: predatorpro on March 04, 2011, 08:10:38 AM
Post by: BIGINNER on March 04, 2011, 08:11:24 AM
i know what canyon they are suppose to be in the palisades :) maybe i will have to do some glassing and get to the bottom of this! and why dont we have more pictures! lol
hey!! you're back :chuckle:
Post by: millertime89 on March 04, 2011, 09:03:36 AM
Post by: lokidog on March 04, 2011, 09:07:35 AM
common now guys, everyone knows those pictures came from the blues ;) :rolleyes:
I thought there was nothing living in the blues, that's what everyone on here says.... :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: millertime89 on March 04, 2011, 09:15:39 AM
common now guys, everyone knows those pictures came from the blues ;) :rolleyes:
I thought there was nothing living in the blues, that's what everyone on here says.... :dunno: :chuckle:
They forgot to mention that the cougars are the reason for that :chuckle: And that picture isn't even from the cougar honey-hole ;)
Post by: J-Lake-Dog-Chaser on March 04, 2011, 09:24:19 AM
The real story:
http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2011/feb/18/cougar-pride-wenatchee-hunter-catches-eight-big/ (http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2011/feb/18/cougar-pride-wenatchee-hunter-catches-eight-big/)
I live very close to where these pictures where taken, and in the story above from the Wenatchee World listed above, the biologist say's that there is nothing to be concerned about! There have been no pets or cow's or such animals reportedly killed by cats.
The problem I have with that is that, where those pictures where taken happens to be the same place where all of my deer go to winter off of the Waterville Plateau! I could imagine that my dear heard is going to be quite a bit smaller. But i guess that is the way it is, time for me to go chasen Kitties instead of Dog's :mgun2:
Post by: wsucowboy on March 04, 2011, 01:09:33 PM
only bigfoot lives in the blues :chuckle:common now guys, everyone knows those pictures came from the blues ;) :rolleyes:
I thought there was nothing living in the blues, that's what everyone on here says.... :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: turkey slayer on March 04, 2011, 02:20:36 PM
The real story:
http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2011/feb/18/cougar-pride-wenatchee-hunter-catches-eight-big/ (http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2011/feb/18/cougar-pride-wenatchee-hunter-catches-eight-big/)
I live very close to where these pictures where taken, and in the story above from the Wenatchee World listed above, the biologist say's that there is nothing to be concerned about! There have been no pets or cow's or such animals reportedly killed by cats.
The problem I have with that is that, where those pictures where taken happens to be the same place where all of my deer go to winter off of the Waterville Plateau! I could imagine that my dear heard is going to be quite a bit smaller. But i guess that is the way it is, time for me to go chasen Kitties instead of Dog's :mgun2:
That is what I have been saying the hole time when I posted this the 1st time about a migration herds.Glad someone realizes what it could do to our herds up here
Post by: Sidewinder on March 05, 2011, 09:52:10 AM
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Post by: blacktail luv on March 09, 2011, 03:08:50 PM