Post by: HoofsandWings on January 26, 2011, 04:48:32 PM
I know there are not a lot of choices yet.
165 or 180 grain?
Any powder recommendations?
Thanks
Post by: haugenna on January 26, 2011, 07:02:18 PM
Retumbo
Remington 700 makes a good one.
Post by: Jamieb on January 26, 2011, 08:16:35 PM
That big cartridge shines with 200's.
Post by: poohdog on January 26, 2011, 08:21:16 PM
Post by: Jeremiah P on January 26, 2011, 08:32:54 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on January 26, 2011, 09:00:12 PM
Post by: bearpaw on January 27, 2011, 06:32:52 AM
Most bullets today will get the job done.
I like the Barnes bullets, you can shoot a 165 Barnes Tipped Triple Shock faster and flatter with less recoil and get more penetration than most all other bullets of heavier weight. Out of dozens of animals shot with Barnes, we are yet to recover a bullet. They go through shoulder bone and everything. If needed it's much easier to track an animal with an exit hole.
Like any bullet, you need to shoot it out of your gun, not all bullets work in all guns. I have a 300 WTBY that shoots Rem Corelocks better than anything, it will not group Barnes or any other boattail worth a darn. :twocents:
Post by: high country on January 28, 2011, 05:27:18 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on January 28, 2011, 06:12:45 AM
Post by: C-Money on January 28, 2011, 06:41:24 AM
Post by: GoldTip on January 28, 2011, 06:44:25 AM
I shoot the sendero and it is amazing with 208's, but I also load 180 accubonds for my buddies RUM and it also drives tacks. The 180 load is hot moving just over 3600 :yike: So far my gun is accurate out to 1250 yards with me shooting it
Seriously, 3600fps with a 180gr pill? That is smoking HOT!
Post by: MtnMuley on January 28, 2011, 08:12:13 AM
Post by: longrange7mm on January 28, 2011, 01:16:10 PM
Post by: HoofsandWings on January 30, 2011, 08:51:59 PM
I am going to have sticker shock over the dies for reloading. Also, the powder is different along with the primers.
Post by: bearpaw on January 30, 2011, 11:52:23 PM
I shoot the sendero and it is amazing with 208's, but I also load 180 accubonds for my buddies RUM and it also drives tacks. The 180 load is hot moving just over 3600 :yike: So far my gun is accurate out to 1250 yards with me shooting it
I was curious about trying to work up to the load you are referring to, would you mind sharing your recipe for this load? THANKS
Post by: CementFinisher on January 31, 2011, 12:59:44 AM
Post by: high country on January 31, 2011, 09:32:29 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 31, 2011, 09:38:39 AM
Post by: bearpaw on January 31, 2011, 09:45:41 AM
I have a lot of load development with the 300 rum under my belt and have built or bought 4 different rifles in the cal...if you are driving a 180 to much over 3400 legitimate fps through a chronograph.....you are asking for trouble.the diff in pressure from 3300 to 3600 is enough to make you blind if you live through a case failure. There is no reason to push 80k cup.....not worth the risk.
I am trying to figure out how Jeremiah P can get that kind of speed, I don't see the data anywhere on how to accomplish that. Rather than suggest he is wrong, I was hoping he would share his recipe. We also have a couple 30/378's and we can't get that much speed out of them with a 180 gr either. :twocents:
Post by: high country on January 31, 2011, 09:50:33 AM
Post by: bearpaw on January 31, 2011, 09:56:46 AM
Post by: high country on January 31, 2011, 10:00:52 AM
and that is a 133 gr case of better quality. I suspect a guess on speed.I have a lot of load development with the 300 rum under my belt and have built or bought 4 different rifles in the cal...if you are driving a 180 to much over 3400 legitimate fps through a chronograph.....you are asking for trouble.the diff in pressure from 3300 to 3600 is enough to make you blind if you live through a case failure. There is no reason to push 80k cup.....not worth the risk.
I am trying to figure out how Jeremiah P can get that kind of speed, I don't see the data anywhere on how to accomplish that. Rather than suggest he is wrong, I was hoping he would share his recipe. We also have a couple 30/378's and we can't get that much speed out of them with a 180 gr either. :twocents:
Post by: MDGrand on January 31, 2011, 01:38:42 PM
So far, I really like the rifle. It is a heavy kicker and I have to learn how to shoot it a bit more to get the accuracy I want out of it. But, I do get sub MOA groups with the following loads:
180 grain Barnes TSX Federal Factory
and
210 Berger VLD's, RL 25, 87.9 grains, CCI LRM Primer, OAL 3.54 = 2950 fps, 0.63 BC
Going to try:
200 Barnes TTSX, RL 25, 88 grains, CCI LRM Primer, OAL = 3.6 = 3000+ fps, 0.53 BC
Two thoughts with this rifle...
If getting a Rem 700 synthetic stock that is NOT a sendero line, get an aftermarket stock, I got an HS Precision. The factory stocks suck unless you go with the Sendero line, those come with B&C stocks.
Post by: Big P on February 06, 2011, 09:42:55 PM
180gr nosler ballistic tips
92gr reloader 25
federal #215 primers
3309fps @ the muzzle
Post by: haugenna on February 06, 2011, 10:18:10 PM
Post by: haugenna on February 06, 2011, 10:27:03 PM
and that is a 133 gr case of better quality. I suspect a guess on speed.I have a lot of load development with the 300 rum under my belt and have built or bought 4 different rifles in the cal...if you are driving a 180 to much over 3400 legitimate fps through a chronograph.....you are asking for trouble.the diff in pressure from 3300 to 3600 is enough to make you blind if you live through a case failure. There is no reason to push 80k cup.....not worth the risk.
I am trying to figure out how Jeremiah P can get that kind of speed, I don't see the data anywhere on how to accomplish that. Rather than suggest he is wrong, I was hoping he would share his recipe. We also have a couple 30/378's and we can't get that much speed out of them with a 180 gr either. :twocents:
I will never own another 30-378 after reloading for a RUM. I used 110 grains of retumbo and got a 180 moving 3350 fps. I loaded 100.2 grains of Retumbo in a 300 RUM and got the same 180 moving 3480. More efficient with less powder.
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 09:04:38 AM
Post by: dontgetcrabs on February 07, 2011, 09:16:28 AM
That is a TON of charge for a 180 grain bullet. Is that even recommended max spec with Retumbo? That sounds like a compressed load to me. I have seen Retumbo used into the 90s on some bullets but 110 grains! Wow.
I think he was loading 110 gns in a 30-378 and 100 gns in the RUM.
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 09:24:18 AM
Post by: bobcat on February 07, 2011, 09:31:41 AM
Cartridge: 300 Remington Ultra Mag
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Bullet Weight (Gr.) Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
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180 GR. SPR SPBT Hodgdon Retumbo .308" 3.530" 94.0 3182 58,400 PSI 100.5C 3300 62,400 PSI
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 09:35:44 AM
Post by: bobcat on February 07, 2011, 09:43:52 AM
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 10:04:01 AM
Post by: whacker1 on February 07, 2011, 11:40:22 AM
I haven't chronographed it yet, but it gets me sub moa. My am planning on trying the 185 grain Berger VLD's next.
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 01:32:02 PM
For now though, I use the Berger 210 VLD with my RUM in the following receipe:
OAL = 3.54, RL 25 87.9 grains, Nosler Brass, CCI LRM Primer. 2950 FPS, 0.63 BC. I have yet to see what it will do on an animal, but I have high hopes!
Post by: whacker1 on February 07, 2011, 02:06:27 PM
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 02:10:56 PM
From what I hear, a short free bore is MUCH better than a long one..
Post by: LittleJohn on February 07, 2011, 02:14:42 PM
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 02:22:09 PM
Post by: LittleJohn on February 07, 2011, 02:24:59 PM
Post by: bearpaw on February 07, 2011, 02:34:06 PM
V-Max makes them in 30 cal. I know a few guys running them in the 30.06's. I am sure them are screaming. My bro wanted me to ask if anyone knows anything on here about running them in the RUM :dunno:
That would be awesome for yotes and prairie dogs if it will shoot groups.... :twocents:
Post by: whacker1 on February 07, 2011, 02:36:45 PM
OAL for the chamber is like 3.77 in my rifle.
OAL for the magazine is like 3.7
so to get the loads to move up and down in the magazine I have them at 3.65. The closer I got to the lands the better mine shot in regards to accuracy, but I had to back the length down to be able to use the magazine
Most Remingtons I understand are plagued with the same problem of short magazine length.
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 02:44:19 PM
MAYBE.. there is an aftermarket magazine that will let you go to the full lengh?
I am thinking about gettng the HS Precision Detachable magazine.. perhaps that will come with a longer OAL?
Post by: whacker1 on February 07, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
I totally see what your saying.. my OAL length I think is almost identical to yours.. 3.7.. magizine is a bit shorter. BUT.. I think this is pretty common across ALL factory rifles.. they have to live up to SAMMI specs, as making a rifle that shoots bullets well seated in the lands can cause excessive presure. Plus they need to feed properly
MAYBE.. there is an aftermarket magazine that will let you go to the full lengh?
I am thinking about gettng the HS Precision Detachable magazine.. perhaps that will come with a longer OAL?
I would ask for the specs on the magazine. I know others that tried to change it and have had no luck in doing so. They were going to resort to taking a dremel to a stock to make it bigger, but I haven't been willing to go that direction..
Post by: bearpaw on February 07, 2011, 02:53:45 PM
Also I was wondering if someone with a Sendero has a fast accurate load for any of the following bullets they would share?
Barnes 110 gr Tipped TSX FB
Barnes 130 gr Tipped TSX BT
Barnes 150 gr Tipped TSX BT
Barnes 168 gr Tipped TSX BT
Barnes 180 gr Tipped TSX BT
Barnes 200 gr Tipped TSX BT
Any accurate loads for the standard TSX would be worth trying too, THANKS, Dale
Post by: bearpaw on February 07, 2011, 02:55:44 PM
I totally see what your saying.. my OAL length I think is almost identical to yours.. 3.7.. magizine is a bit shorter. BUT.. I think this is pretty common across ALL factory rifles.. they have to live up to SAMMI specs, as making a rifle that shoots bullets well seated in the lands can cause excessive presure. Plus they need to feed properly
MAYBE.. there is an aftermarket magazine that will let you go to the full lengh?
I am thinking about gettng the HS Precision Detachable magazine.. perhaps that will come with a longer OAL?
Just curious, Do you know how many cartridges the detachable holds?
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 02:59:44 PM
For a 200 Grain TTSX:
Federal Nickle plated brass, CCI LRM, RL 25 88 grains, OAL 3.64
Post by: MDGrand on February 07, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
I totally see what your saying.. my OAL length I think is almost identical to yours.. 3.7.. magizine is a bit shorter. BUT.. I think this is pretty common across ALL factory rifles.. they have to live up to SAMMI specs, as making a rifle that shoots bullets well seated in the lands can cause excessive presure. Plus they need to feed properly
MAYBE.. there is an aftermarket magazine that will let you go to the full lengh?
I am thinking about gettng the HS Precision Detachable magazine.. perhaps that will come with a longer OAL?
Just curious, Do you know how many cartridges the detachable holds?
It holds 3.. EXPENSIVE THOUGH!
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=457891 (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=457891)
Post by: whacker1 on February 07, 2011, 03:01:42 PM
3 round.
you basically are taking out the trigger guard and hinged floor plate to put in a solid piece that allows for the detachable magazine. I don't believe it gives you any longer options for the COAL. It would be worth a call or e-mail to find out. It is a $300 change by the time you ship and pay tax.
Post by: bearpaw on February 07, 2011, 03:03:30 PM
Thanks for your input on the load too. :hello:
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 07, 2011, 07:41:46 PM
I shoot the sendero and it is amazing with 208's, but I also load 180 accubonds for my buddies RUM and it also drives tacks. The 180 load is hot moving just over 3600 :yike: So far my gun is accurate out to 1250 yards with me shooting it
I was curious about trying to work up to the load you are referring to, would you mind sharing your recipe for this load? THANKS
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 07, 2011, 07:46:12 PM
Post by: high country on February 07, 2011, 08:51:11 PM
Post by: MDGrand on February 08, 2011, 02:52:25 PM
Yes that is spendy... I will have to think about that one. :chuckle:
Thanks for your input on the load too. :hello:
Hey Dale.. Here are the results from my 200 TTSX Load:
Again, the recipe: Federal Nickel plated Brass (I only have this because I went through a box) 200 Grain TTSX, OAL = 3.64 (this is seated -0.02 off the lands so this may be different for your load), RL 25, 88 grains (this is max), CCI LRM, Rem 700 XCR II, 26" barrel = 3150 FPS. BC on this bullet is 0.546 too.. so should be a super nice accurate load out to 500 yards.
If you have a sendero with a heavier barrel, you will probably get even better results. Good luck.
Post by: bearpaw on February 09, 2011, 05:40:08 PM
Have you shot any of the lighter TTSX bullets?
Post by: MDGrand on February 09, 2011, 05:52:53 PM
In all fairness, this was done off a nice bench rest with front and rear supports, there is little I had to do. When working up the load I try to make sure I find out what the RIFLE can do with a load first, then I find out what I can do with it. There is no need to shoot MOA groups off hand or free hand in order to get a nice clean kill shot on an animal.. as they say, if you can hit a pie plate at 100 yards that is usually good enough. So I practice off hand and more field type shooting positions at the range after I find my good loads.
The Sendero though is a flat out nice rifle.. top of the line from Remington from what I understand. That should shoot 1 MOA all day!
I have not shot any lighter Barnes TTSX bullets out of my 300 RUM, albeit the TSX 180 federal factory ammunition I got the brass from. For a 300 RUM, I try to shoot the biggest bullet I can find with the best BC. If can shoot damn near or over 3000 fps with a 200 grain bullet and the bullet has a BC of over 5.. that means the bullet is gonna have a nice flat trajectory and be real wind resistent.
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 09, 2011, 06:17:23 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 09, 2011, 06:28:28 PM
Post by: bow-n-head on February 09, 2011, 06:48:07 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 09, 2011, 06:52:21 PM
Post by: MDGrand on February 09, 2011, 06:54:09 PM
My 208 Amax bullets have a BC of .648, pretty hard to beat that BC.
You got me pretty excited, until I saw the following: (I think I will stick with my Berger 210s.. they have a BC of 0.631 and can be used on game.)
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 09, 2011, 07:05:53 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 09, 2011, 07:07:35 PM
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on February 09, 2011, 07:13:04 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 09, 2011, 07:18:40 PM
Post by: haugenna on February 09, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
180 GR. SPR SPBT Hodgdon Retumbo .308" 3.600" 107.0 3228 43,200 CUP 113.0C 3460 54,700 CUP
Post by: MDGrand on February 09, 2011, 10:32:12 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on February 10, 2011, 08:12:41 AM
Post by: Antlershed on February 10, 2011, 08:45:42 AM
Post by: MDGrand on February 10, 2011, 08:55:37 AM
Berger has a specifically designed hunting VLD bullet.
Yes but they orginally were designed for Target shooting only.. they found out they were quite effective on game.
Post by: MDGrand on February 10, 2011, 09:01:01 AM
I have never shot ballistic tips so I'm not really sure how they compare. The first deer I shot with the Amax's was at 585 yards, and it just clipped the offside shoulder on the way out, and there was very minimal meat damage. My deer this year was shot at about 100 yards, and I shot it in the neck and dropped him in his tracks. Wasn't a huge exit wound either. My elk this year was a neck shot at 250 yards and she dropped in her tracks and didn't have a huge exit wound either.
So are the A Max's a bonded core bullet meant for weight retention, or are they meant to blow up like a ballistic tip. I would imagine if they say they are NOT recommended on game it is due to their inability to stay together or give a delayed expansion.
If you guys are getting such great hunting results, especially in an ultra mag then I wonder what Hornady's position is on this bullet.
I would love to try it. Currently, given the low BC of Hornady bullets I am not a fan. Too many other bullets like the Barnes, Berger and Accubond that I think I superior.
Post by: bobcat on February 10, 2011, 09:15:37 AM
So are the A Max's a bonded core bullet meant for weight retention, or are they meant to blow up like a ballistic tip. I would imagine if they say they are NOT recommended on game it is due to their inability to stay together or give a delayed expansion.
It's not really correct to say that ballistic tips are "meant to blow up." The ones designed as varmint bullets, probably, but the ballistic tips designed for hunting big game are definitely not designed to blow up. I'm not saying they WON'T. It really just depends on the specific circumstances- bullet caliber/weight, velocity at impact, bones hit or not, etc.
Post by: MDGrand on February 10, 2011, 09:36:39 AM
I agree that they are not varmint type bullets, but they are meant to shed about half their weight sending shards all over and inside the animal, according to nosler ballistic tip web site, they are meant to expand "on impact." I have seen what they do on deer and they will kill it, sure. I would not want to use them on larger Muleys though or elk, bear, etc. I think they are best for White tail, black tail and even some varmints. But this is just my two cents.. some guys MUST have an entrance and exit hole.. others think that by the bullet blowing up that ALL its energy is now dumped into the animal and that is better.
Whatever the case, the common factor in all, is shot placement.. So whatever one you can shoot straiter, use it.
Post by: MtnMuley on February 10, 2011, 10:14:01 AM
Berger has a specifically designed hunting VLD bullet.
Yes but they orginally were designed for Target shooting only.. they found out they were quite effective on game.
Yes, but the hunting VLD is still a different bullet than the match/target VLD. That's like comparing the A-Max to the V-Max. Just because they look alike, they're totally different.
Post by: MDGrand on February 10, 2011, 10:20:04 AM
Berger has a specifically designed hunting VLD bullet.
Yes but they orginally were designed for Target shooting only.. they found out they were quite effective on game.
Yes, but the hunting VLD is still a different bullet than the match/target VLD. That's like comparing the A-Max to the V-Max. Just because they look alike, they're totally different.
I know they are different.. all I am saying is the Hunting VLD used to be JUST a target bullet, they FOUND OUT it was effective on game and slapped a hunting name on it. I was not comparing the two.. just saying that perhaps the A Max will soon be slapped with the Hunting designation too if guys like the ones on this board keep taking animals reliably with them.
Post by: MtnMuley on February 10, 2011, 10:29:30 AM
Post by: MDGrand on February 10, 2011, 10:41:50 AM
Whatever the case, I will let you be the expert, I just shoot em.
Post by: MtnMuley on February 10, 2011, 02:51:57 PM
.. all I am saying is the Hunting VLD used to be JUST a target bullet, they FOUND OUT it was effective on game and slapped a hunting name on it. I was not comparing the two..
What you're saying here is false (untrue, lie, bullsh*t). I never claimed to be an expert, just pointing out a statement that was untrue, and wanting to make sure that everyone else reading this post and trying to learn something aware, that you're statement was wrong. That's all. By the way, I use and love the Berger Hunting VLDs. I would recommend making sure the box says Hunting VLD, not Match/Target VLD before using them for a big game hunting bullet. :)
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 10, 2011, 05:26:25 PM
Post by: Jamieb on February 10, 2011, 06:04:16 PM
Post by: Jamieb on February 10, 2011, 06:14:42 PM
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 10, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
I know a few folks that have killed a bunch of deer, elk, and blackbear with A-max's and swear by them. Put the bullet in the vitals and it will kill, but don't try to reach the vitals through the rear hams. As well as A-max's shoot in some of my rifles, I save them for long range playing and use other bullets for killing.
Post by: Jamieb on February 10, 2011, 07:41:43 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on February 10, 2011, 07:50:04 PM
Post by: MDGrand on February 11, 2011, 09:13:58 AM
LOL...feel better? Glad you are looking out for the greater good. Do you wear a cape? ;)
.. all I am saying is the Hunting VLD used to be JUST a target bullet, they FOUND OUT it was effective on game and slapped a hunting name on it. I was not comparing the two..
What you're saying here is false (untrue, lie, bullsh*t). I never claimed to be an expert, just pointing out a statement that was untrue, and wanting to make sure that everyone else reading this post and trying to learn something aware, that you're statement was wrong. That's all. By the way, I use and love the Berger Hunting VLDs. I would recommend making sure the box says Hunting VLD, not Match/Target VLD before using them for a big game hunting bullet. :)
Post by: MtnMuley on February 11, 2011, 10:36:58 AM
Post by: MDGrand on February 11, 2011, 11:40:31 AM
Care to share what you are a "site sponser" of?
Post by: MtnMuley on February 11, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
Post by: MDGrand on February 11, 2011, 02:09:40 PM
....and wtf does that have to do with anything? I commented on this post strictly because there was false information posted. Apparently you are too proud to admit you posted false information for others to read and base their decisions on. As for my responces, I apologize to the original poster for causing a rutkus in his thread.
OK.. Looks like I have come across one of those guys that takes this site WAY to seriously.. RELAX.. I am not in your living room or at your front door. Its clear you have a love affair with Berger and want to keep the truth to what you believe it is. I really dont take all this, especially what someone else says over the internet,seriously. But since it seems to be THAT important to you.. I will share one last time and then I will drop it. Reply all you want (and I too apologize to anyone else that is reading this...)
What does that have to do with anything? Well, you pretty much outwardly insulted my sponsership of Rivers West, so I was wondering what great product or service you are endorsing? You ARE a "sight sponser" are you not? Are you "too proud" to share?
As far as where my knowledge comes from regarding the Berger bullets:
1. One of the guys on the RW pro team is also sponsered by Berger.. at the SHOT show a few weeks ago, we hung out with the Berger guys.. They told me the design of the VLD was originally conceived as a "competition bullet" as Walt Berger was a competition shooter. Others at Berger and in the Industry (Best of the West TV show for example) found out that it was a very effective game bullet as well. SO, they set forth to create two lines, the "Hunting VLD" and the "Target VLD".. here is the video on Berger's site that says in the very beginning that "the VLD bullet was intoduced as a competition bullet..." The Berger VLD - Best Long Range Hunting Bullet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voyw1H-0CBI#)
So how do you interpret that? I know that there are two different lines of bullets, I KNOW that there is a Target and Hunting VLD, so I don't need a lesson.. it seems to me that the inception of all of their bullets ORIGINALLY came from a need to design competition bullets first and that ran into their now Hunting VLD line... hence my original comment in this thread about perhaps the A Max being converted into a Hunting bullet as well, based on the experience of other hunters and two it seems apparent that this was the path that lead to the Berger Hunting VLD.
Regardless of all this, if I am wrong... and they misinformed me or I misunderstood.. who cares. Its lame, the argument is lame. I wasnt trying to purposely give "false" information or "lies and bullsh*t" as you said in a previous post. I didn't take any shots at your product or business (even though you wont say what that is), and I never called you liar or said you were full of "bullsh*t" .. you did..
Again.. sorry to anyone reading this thread as this is SOOO stupid :P
Post by: high country on February 11, 2011, 02:57:59 PM
Post by: bearpaw on February 12, 2011, 09:19:17 AM
Post by: carver52 on February 12, 2011, 09:37:58 AM
As to penetration, I know deer don't offer the same resistance as an elk or bear, for example. However, I did, on accident, take two whitetails with one shot. One standing behind the other. The exit hole on the second deer was no larger than the entrance hole on the first. One deer dropped like a rock. The other left a blood trail Stevie Wonder could have followed.
Post by: sakoshooter on February 13, 2011, 11:57:39 AM
Here is my Remington .300RUM. (Before I scratched it up a bunch...) :'(
I like Rem BDLs.
Post by: rtspring on February 13, 2011, 12:45:59 PM
Post by: HoofsandWings on February 15, 2011, 09:52:19 PM
Post by: rtspring on February 15, 2011, 09:58:04 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on February 16, 2011, 05:29:13 AM
Is there a model that is better absorbing recoil? I understand Sciroccos are great at recoil absorbtion, but are there any others you would recommend?
Hoofsandwings, Scirroccos are the bullet he has chosen to shoot. I have a wood stock version (CDL) of the rifle and the recoil is manageable. I am a large guy though (over 300)...not sure how it would feel if you were 150lbs or so....
rtspring, sounds like you and I have the same rifle, bought at about the same time, shoot the same round, with the same results. Love that gun.
Post by: HoofsandWings on February 16, 2011, 01:16:05 PM
BTW, has anyone seen the XCR II? If so, what is it like??
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 16, 2011, 08:26:25 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on February 16, 2011, 08:32:12 PM
I am not perfect.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 16, 2011, 08:33:48 PM
Post by: rtspring on February 16, 2011, 08:36:26 PM
Got him right behind the left ear. he went to sleep quick.......
just saying
Post by: ICEMAN on February 16, 2011, 08:40:36 PM
The moving deer shot above...I am not so proud of, but all the others I am...
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 16, 2011, 08:42:35 PM
I shot an elk a few years back at well over 300yds (no rangefinder, walked it off) two guys had missed it cleanly with a 30-06, and 7mm.
Got him right behind the left ear. he went to sleep quick.......
just saying
Who'd a thunk it?
Just sayin....
Post by: rtspring on February 16, 2011, 08:53:38 PM
I wanted one gun to hunt everyhting with. This gun has outdone any expectation I could of ever imagined. I'm not a gun PRO by any means and shoot less than alot of people. But when I pull the trigger I always feel very confident I can hit just about anything.
That is at a resonable range, People say this cartridge will go way out there but if you are shooting at anythng past 500 yards I think you have missed a step in "HUNTING" somewhere.............
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 16, 2011, 08:58:50 PM
Simmons scope? I wouldn't admit that on a open forum!! grin... Later
Post by: rtspring on February 16, 2011, 09:02:04 PM
laugh all you want :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I deserve it....
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 16, 2011, 09:06:26 PM
Post by: rtspring on February 16, 2011, 09:08:35 PM
If it can handle the thunder of the 300 RUM it can't be too bad of a scope........
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 16, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
Post by: bearpaw on February 17, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
Lost count how many foreheads that scope bounced off of. grin....
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: high country on February 17, 2011, 09:09:00 PM