Post by: Falcon on May 06, 2008, 08:29:27 PM
Is this true? If it is, I am gonna be depressed!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: boneaddict on May 06, 2008, 08:30:52 PM
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Post by: billythekidrock on May 07, 2008, 05:57:17 AM
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not that I know of. Thats about the level most folks are at since they began the thing unless they have turned in a poacher. That may have been what they meant.
I don't think you can apply those points towards OIL hunts. Only deer and elk.
It is my understanding that the OIL points started a couple years before the deer and elk so some people could have more then 10 for those species.
Post by: boneaddict on May 07, 2008, 06:17:48 AM
Post by: bobcat on May 07, 2008, 06:32:46 AM
It is my understanding that the OIL points started a couple years before the deer and elk so some people could have more then 10 for those species.
I don't think so. There was no point system for anything until 1996.
Post by: MuleDeerCrazy on May 13, 2008, 11:48:27 AM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 13, 2008, 12:17:19 PM
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There was no point system for anything until 1996.
and now the odds are worse every year....... :bdid:
Post by: boneaddict on May 13, 2008, 12:19:03 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 13, 2008, 12:23:10 PM
They are all approaching a place where young hunters who start applying at age 12 will never draw a tag in there life. I dont think point systems are sustainable.
I honestly believe that game departments were fooled into these systems by affluent hunters (Baby Boomers) that wanted a tag in the next 10 years and were willing to pay any price to make that happen. Little if any concern was given to young hunters IMHO.
Post by: shanevg on May 13, 2008, 12:24:48 PM
seriously, something needs to change in all of the states that have point systems............
They are all approaching a place where young hunters who start applying at age 12 will never draw a tag in there life. I dont think point systems are sustainable.
I honestly believe that game department were fooled into these systems by affluent hunters that wanted a tag in the next 10 years and were willing to pay any price to make that happen. Little if any concern was given to young hunters IMHO.
:yeah:
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 13, 2008, 12:26:07 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 13, 2008, 12:30:50 PM
"no state shall… deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
:mor:
Post by: KillBilly on May 13, 2008, 01:38:32 PM
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Post by: Curly on May 13, 2008, 02:27:26 PM
In this state, there is no way to know for certain if you will ever get drawn and, chances are you will NEVER get drawn.
Just think about how many people keep putting in year after year for the premium tags. There must be thousands of people with 11 or 12 points now competing for the same permits. Their odds of drawing that tag they want today are as just as bad (or worse) than day 1 when everyone no points. Sure your name is in the hat 144 times...........but so are thousands of others.
Post by: billythekidrock on May 13, 2008, 04:31:16 PM
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Bonus points are handled by enforcement and are "ususlly" applied to the animal that the case was based on. It can vary at the discretion of Enforcement
Sounds like a system set up for abuse.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on May 13, 2008, 05:25:04 PM
Same as Colorado, it will take more years to cycle through those people than one could live...
I like the chance, at least i know i have a chance, remote as it is it is still a chance.
I think about my kid, he is 8. In oregon he would never draw a tag, he doesn't have any points. At least here he has a change at a margaret or toutle bull the first year he applies, 2 years from now.
Post by: Curly on May 13, 2008, 05:49:59 PM
In Oregon your kid would draw a tag after a few years of applying. Everybody eventually gets drawn so he would get drawn and be able to hunt........in WA he may never draw one of the premium tags.
There are a couple of the very best units down there that only have limited permits and will take 10 years to draw (like the Muzzleloader deer permit during the rut....Juniper, I think) a resident can hold out for that one for a long time, but he will eventually get it. In WA you could keep putting in for Desert for 40 years and probably not draw.
Post by: bobcat on May 13, 2008, 07:01:53 PM
I really don't have a problem with Washington's point system. I think it's as fair as any point system could be. I also think Oregon's system works well. It's not better or worse than Washington's, just different.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on May 13, 2008, 07:26:02 PM
My buddy's hunt in oregon and can't believe that i get to chase branched bulls every year. When they have to wait 3-4 years. And that is changing for them also...
Just wait untill WA pulls the same crap, the area you have hunted since you were a kid becomes draw only and you only get to hunt it every 3-4 years would suck.