Post by: funkster on February 13, 2011, 04:17:24 PM
Post by: Jason on February 13, 2011, 04:21:49 PM
"for reenactment use" hopefully they work :dunno:
Post by: fair-chase on February 13, 2011, 04:32:53 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 13, 2011, 04:44:31 PM
There's no such thing as a Sure Thing. A misfire can even happen with a modern firearm.
Post by: funkster on February 13, 2011, 05:03:30 PM
When using musket caps I have found the ones from Germany (or have German labeling) to be the best. I would have to dig them out to find the exact name of the manufacturer as I have all of my black powder gear packed away for the year. I am sure some others on here know what I am referring to as it has been discussed before.
I believe they are called RWS. They are the most expensive caps I have found so far. $6.99 for 100 is not bad at all.
Post by: Whitelightning on February 13, 2011, 05:10:47 PM
When using musket caps I have found the ones from Germany (or have German labeling) to be the best. I would have to dig them out to find the exact name of the manufacturer as I have all of my black powder gear packed away for the year. I am sure some others on here know what I am referring to as it has been discussed before.
The caps you are thinking of are RWS caps made by DYNAMIT-NOBEL. They should be in a red package they are without a doubt the best most reliable on the market today.
My opinion on caps is that a #11 cap will fit the nipple much tighter than a Musket cap making the #11 weather tight. I switched to #11's because I had lost a few Musket caps in the heat of a stalk. Might have been the gun and nipple I was using at the time but never have had the problem with #11's.
If you are using pellets rather than loose powder the Musket may be better for you as the niple has a larger flame channel. They will also tend to be a little dirtier as the channel being larger will allow for a littler more blow back. Just my two cents.
Post by: fair-chase on February 13, 2011, 05:17:59 PM
Post by: funkster on February 13, 2011, 05:18:22 PM
Has anyone used #11 magnum caps? If so,how do you know your loader can shoot them?
Post by: Whitelightning on February 13, 2011, 05:23:31 PM
Post by: funkster on February 13, 2011, 05:32:35 PM
Post by: Whitelightning on February 13, 2011, 06:00:28 PM
Post by: Dirty Mike on February 13, 2011, 09:54:46 PM
Post by: Machias on February 14, 2011, 08:42:05 AM
Post by: Hangfire on February 14, 2011, 10:00:54 AM
Post by: SkookumHntr on February 14, 2011, 10:12:20 AM
I recently bought some CCI musket caps, haven't used them yet, but I did notice on the top of the container it says- Thats the cap that I used on my late season rainy elk hunt and they worked fine! I have both and I actually like these better! The only misfire Ive ever had was with the German ones, cap went off but didnt ignite the powder. My dad has missfires all the time with his white and # 11's but on his the caps dont even go off? I dont know what his guns problem is?? ANy suggestions? :dunno:
"for reenactment use" hopefully they work :dunno:
Post by: Whitelightning on February 14, 2011, 10:20:40 AM
I recently bought some CCI musket caps, haven't used them yet, but I did notice on the top of the container it says- Thats the cap that I used on my late season rainy elk hunt and they worked fine! I have both and I actually like these better! The only misfire Ive ever had was with the German ones, cap went off but didnt ignite the powder. My dad has missfires all the time with his white and # 11's but on his the caps dont even go off? I dont know what his guns problem is?? ANy suggestions? :dunno:
"for reenactment use" hopefully they work :dunno:
If he is having issues with a White and #11's most common is the cap is not seating on the face of the nipple. Make sure you PUSH the cap on the nipple with force, if you still have the issue take some fine sand paper and sand the circumference of the nipple down until you get consistent cap ignition. Ususally does not take long.
White made the tapper of the nipple a tad steep and some caps without force will not sit on the face properly.
Post by: boots on February 14, 2011, 10:42:22 AM
Post by: teanawayslayer on February 14, 2011, 11:00:25 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 14, 2011, 10:39:37 PM
Post by: Jason on February 15, 2011, 06:57:35 AM
Post by: Wacenturion on February 15, 2011, 07:35:35 AM
"The caps you are thinking of are RWS caps made by DYNAMIT-NOBEL. They should be in a red package they are without a doubt the best most reliable on the market today."
Absolutely the best. Been using them since the 70's. Don't even waste your time with the others. Enough said.
Post by: KLRKeith on February 16, 2011, 07:31:05 PM
Post by: funkster on February 16, 2011, 11:27:27 PM
Post by: funkster on February 21, 2011, 08:21:16 AM
I only got off about 10 shots before dark but I did have 4 rws #11 caps not go off. I don't know if I was doing something wrong or what. I will give them another shot and see what happens, if the same thing happens I am going to try the musket caps.
Post by: bobcat on February 21, 2011, 08:35:12 AM
Post by: funkster on February 21, 2011, 09:21:31 AM
Post by: leadbalz on February 21, 2011, 10:34:18 AM
Post by: ribka on February 21, 2011, 12:35:50 PM
Shot both CCi and RWS musket caps. Like the RWS better, Seem a little hotter :twocents:
Post by: funkster on February 21, 2011, 06:20:20 PM
How many caps can I fire before I need to clean the nipple?
I was basically getting a feel for the riffle( I have not shot since I was a teen) I was grouping about 8" high off center at 2 o'clock at 50 yards. I have the truglo sight with the ghost ring on order. Then I will get sighted in.
Post by: Whitelightning on February 21, 2011, 08:08:03 PM
I recently bought some CCI musket caps, haven't used them yet, but I did notice on the top of the container it says- Thats the cap that I used on my late season rainy elk hunt and they worked fine! I have both and I actually like these better! The only misfire Ive ever had was with the German ones, cap went off but didnt ignite the powder. My dad has missfires all the time with his white and # 11's but on his the caps dont even go off? I dont know what his guns problem is?? ANy suggestions? :dunno:
"for reenactment use" hopefully they work :dunno:
If he is having issues with a White and #11's most common is the cap is not seating on the face of the nipple. Make sure you PUSH the cap on the nipple with force, if you still have the issue take some fine sand paper and sand the circumference of the nipple down until you get consistent cap ignition. Ususally does not take long.
Ya like was said in this post!!!
Post by: Whitelightning on February 21, 2011, 08:17:18 PM
Again good info! I will try applying more pressure to seat the cap on the nipple. I was using a capper tool(I think that is what it is called) and it is hard to feel how much pressure is being applied.
How many caps can I fire before I need to clean the nipple?
I was basically getting a feel for the riffle( I have not shot since I was a teen) I was grouping about 8" high off center at 2 o'clock at 50 yards. I have the truglo sight with the ghost ring on order. Then I will get sighted in.
Yes you have to push the cap on the nipple. I put the cap on with the capper and then I PUSH the cap onto the nipple to seat it. If the cap is not SEATED on the face of the nipple it will mushroom and NOT FIRE. Most of the time when you can RE-Cock and the cap fires it is due to the cap NOT being fully seated. If pressure alone;one does not correct the issue sand the nipples circumference with fine sandpaper a little at a time until you can fire multiple caps without a miss fire.
I can tell you from experience this usually is the case as I have well over a dozen Muzzle loaders in my safe. I have sanded many nipples over the years.
Post by: funkster on February 21, 2011, 10:10:17 PM
Post by: gadwall on February 25, 2011, 07:48:11 PM
:yeah:
I won't shoot anything but RWS because they are the most consistent for me in #11's and musket caps.
Gadwall
Post by: Armadillo on March 18, 2011, 10:54:39 AM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on March 21, 2011, 04:20:28 PM
When using musket caps I have found the ones from Germany (or have German labeling) to be the best. I would have to dig them out to find the exact name of the manufacturer as I have all of my black powder gear packed away for the year. I am sure some others on here know what I am referring to as it has been discussed before.
Yep the only ones I'll ever use are NO 1081 They say Dynamit Nobel on them in english and Vorderlader-Zundhutchen made in Troisdorf Germany....
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