Post by: Sporting_Man on February 16, 2011, 10:22:04 AM
Oh, I forgot - that would be my "dangerous game" rifle (can be well used for West side Elk, Bear)... Do I need it???... hmmm, I know that I want it. I otherwise use CZ550 American in 30-06 and love it...
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 16, 2011, 11:08:16 AM
Post by: wadu1 on February 16, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
Post by: GoldTip on February 16, 2011, 11:37:53 AM
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 16, 2011, 12:02:21 PM
Wadu1, does your rifle kick too hard?
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 16, 2011, 12:19:29 PM
I know where there's a CZ in .416 Rigby for sale. If Washington ever imports Cape Buffalo, you'll be ready! :chuckle:
:chuckle: Yeah, we may import Cape Buff to feed wolves, once everything else is gone... but then, they will be protected too... :chuckle:
Post by: addicted on February 16, 2011, 12:59:26 PM
I had him look into it and he could get me an 8x57(another caliber i wanted) within the week so i had him put the order in. It's no 9.3 but it gets the job done great. It has almost worked out better because it is a much more forgiving caliber while hunting roh deer while still big enough to bag a few boar and red stag.
I am still going to get a 9.3, but probably not till after my deployment.
On my rifle i have adjusted the trigger, It is something like adjusting an aftermarked timney i would guess. I took out all the creep, all the pull, a lot of the weight, while moving the trigger further back. Even the set trigger is lighter now. I dont generally use the set trigger hunting simply because the regular pull is so crisp.
I vote for the full stock the short barrel makes it a dream to handle while maintaining classy good looks. gotta love the full stock.
Post by: addicted on February 16, 2011, 01:02:42 PM
the 9.3x62 is like a 35 whelen on horse steroids. In africa where they have a minimum cartridge requirement of 375 H&H, they generally make an exception for the 9.3 8)
I already picked up some ammo for one even though i dont own one yet. a 285 grain .366 bullet will get any bears attention.
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 16, 2011, 01:16:45 PM
And, yes, I am very familiar with 8X57 (we used to call it 7.9mm). Not available here, though... I think that is a great Elk caliber as well.
I am just a step away from ordering it... Federal Way Gun will do it for $780, I think... last time I checked...
I have 2 CZ550 rifles already. I love their triggers, heft and accuracy.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 16, 2011, 01:27:44 PM
Post by: SeaRun1 on February 16, 2011, 01:41:58 PM
I have a few CZ's and my full stock is the most accurate gun that I own. My .223 Rem American is not very far behind it and shoots almost everything very, very well. I love that gun as well.
I vote for the Full Stock and put some pictures up when you get it. Many times the FS guns get the best wood.
SeaRun1
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 16, 2011, 04:03:44 PM
Post by: addicted on February 16, 2011, 09:09:57 PM
I have heard hit and miss on the wood as well. i have also read that if you strip it down and do the stain again it looks fantastic because the coating that CZ uses doesnt bring out the grain in the wood very well. when i get back to the states, i was planning on glass bedding mine from bolt to muzzle.
I think i paid 850$ for mine.
I'm thinking a sauer 202, steyr mannlicher, or blaser R93 for my 9.3. then an interchangable 7x64 barrel :drool:
I think CZ's are about the cheapest gun out there that you can still get a forged receiver with other than savage. cast receivers have no soul.
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 17, 2011, 07:32:02 AM
I think CZ's are about the cheapest gun out there that you can still get a forged receiver with other than savage. cast receivers have no soul.
I agree. I have tried a couple of new winchester 70 rifles, and they did not feel like CZs, not even close. I learned the hard way that CZ is the best bang for the money, even now, when they increased in price (due to the dollar - euro ratio)... Of course, this is my opinion, I wouldn't want to enter a pissing contest with anyone who likes other stuff.
Post by: quadrafire on February 17, 2011, 07:39:01 AM
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 17, 2011, 07:46:30 AM
Post by: quadrafire on February 17, 2011, 07:52:33 AM
Would imagine a synthetic full length would allow for more accuracy with extreme weather swings, but would never look as good as the all wood.
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 17, 2011, 08:09:44 AM
Post by: addicted on February 17, 2011, 08:38:57 AM
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 17, 2011, 12:29:27 PM
I have my CZ American in 30-06 glass bedded. I did not need that, but I am glad I did it. This rifle is a tack driver. Capable of printing clover leaves all day long. I hope that the new FS gets there too.
Post by: addicted on February 17, 2011, 02:26:58 PM
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 17, 2011, 03:08:57 PM
I like those buttstocks on Lux and FS, with sharp angled cheekpiece. Some people think they are uncomfy, but I think that they are beautiful and fit me well for sure...
Enough said, damn it, I am going to order this rifle tomorrow! :drool:
Post by: quadrafire on February 17, 2011, 06:58:26 PM
I had never looked at CZ before. Well I will be now. Thanks for the post.
Post by: addicted on February 17, 2011, 08:58:42 PM
That is one SWEET looking gun.check out their pistols too lol
I had never looked at CZ before. Well I will be now. Thanks for the post.
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 17, 2011, 09:26:54 PM
Brno 602 (former name brand for what is today's CZ) was THE rifle in Africa, and still is (now it is CZ Safari Magnum)...
Post by: ribka on February 17, 2011, 10:01:20 PM
Go with the full stock in 9.3 for the "kewl factor" :tung:
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 18, 2011, 07:54:42 AM
Post by: addicted on February 18, 2011, 03:38:36 PM
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=3132525 (http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=3132525)
Post by: addicted on February 18, 2011, 03:40:03 PM
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=3161735 (http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=3161735)
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 19, 2011, 10:56:46 AM
Post by: addicted on February 19, 2011, 04:07:27 PM
I think i would take the steyr myself. Thats 5,000+ euros of gun and glass with the current bid at 1,500 and 13 hours left. :drool:
Post by: addicted on February 19, 2011, 04:22:23 PM
;)
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215787460 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215787460)
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 20, 2011, 08:43:32 AM
Post by: addicted on February 20, 2011, 05:49:37 PM
90% of the rifles i see set up over here have true return to zero QD rings/mounts so that they can either use iron sights or switch to some sort of red dot. frankonia usually has a sale on the rifle you want with schwenkmontage rings/bases which have to be hand tooled differently for each rifle-scope set up by a proffessional machinist/buchsemacher and a meopta scope as kind of a package deal.
at the end of the day its all still just :twocents: :chuckle:
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 21, 2011, 02:12:50 PM
Post by: addicted on February 21, 2011, 10:41:46 PM
Post by: Miles on February 21, 2011, 11:28:12 PM
because Americans generally aren't interested in having a gun that can shoot in a drive hunt with palm swell, a flanged Bavarian forestock and iron sights. they want a generic cast receiver rem700 in 7mm mag that they will put permanent rings and a scope that will only come off when it breaks. Many only hunt one 3 day weekend a year and don't have or put the time in to really learn iron sights proficiently therefor a simple scope is practical and easy for them.
If you had hunted on the eastern portion of the US, drives and open sights are very common. That's not just stuff they do in Germany. ;)
And just because Washington has a short season and some people only get out and hunt one 3 day weekend, that doesn't mean the majority of the US hunting population does the same.
Post by: Miles on February 21, 2011, 11:32:14 PM
Post by: addicted on February 22, 2011, 03:37:20 AM
Post by: Miles on February 22, 2011, 04:12:34 AM
i dont think you could take the kick. thats why you got the swede :chuckle:
True...I wouldn't want to develop a flinch just to make next years deer "more dead". ;)
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 22, 2011, 08:29:30 AM
Post by: addicted on February 22, 2011, 08:32:32 AM
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 22, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
my buddy put 75 rounds through his 338 mag a couple months back. the next day he didnt even want to go sit in a stand because he was afraid something would come out and he would have to shoot again.
:chuckle:
75 rounds even from the 30-06 sporter is :bdid: IMHO :)
Post by: addicted on July 04, 2011, 09:56:00 PM