Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 16, 2011, 09:39:19 PM
Post by: Machias on February 16, 2011, 10:59:10 PM
Post by: Hannibal on February 17, 2011, 06:57:42 AM
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Post by: boneaddict on February 17, 2011, 07:13:01 AM
Post by: runamuk on February 17, 2011, 07:27:45 AM
Sit and watch them for a bit. Some of the best entertainment in the world.
I am with Bone otters are really fun to watch critters
Post by: MtnMuley on February 17, 2011, 08:00:10 AM
Sit and watch them for a bit. Some of the best entertainment in the world.
Exactly. I couldn't bring myself to trap one. Just not enough in my country, and the things they do will make your day.
Post by: Humptulips on February 17, 2011, 09:20:52 AM
That's what I don't think the general public realizes. Animals cause problems when their population gets too high. Managed correctly we can have the otters to watch and trap a few also. Besides they make a pretty nice fur blanket. :)
Post by: lokidog on February 17, 2011, 09:41:00 AM
They are cool to watch, until they get on your boat, crap all over the place, and, just for the heck of it, rip out the screens on the cabin's windows! We get some really BIG ones out here on the docks. It drives me crazy though when people call them sea otters just because they are in the salt water.
Do you have to have a trapper's license to have a fur tanned from one that was hit by a car?
Post by: MtnMuley on February 17, 2011, 10:04:49 AM
Do you have to have a trapper's license to have a fur tanned from one that was hit by a car?
Yep. Then you have to lie about how you got it. WDFW laws can make a criminal out of anyboby.
Post by: lokidog on February 17, 2011, 10:16:46 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on February 17, 2011, 10:53:43 AM
Post by: Humptulips on February 18, 2011, 12:17:30 AM
Fortunately, my wife, Weathergirl, has a WDFW salvage permit for educational purposes. ;)
Sounds like you might be in good shape but just a reminder to others, It is illegal in WA to pick up road kill even if it is in season and you have a license. Roundly ignored but if you cause a problem when stopping to pick something up I imagine you would be sited.
Also all otter and bobcats have to be CITES tagged or they cannot cross the state line. No tannery or taxidermist will touch it if it is not CITES tagged. If you are thinking about picking one up and you don't have a license to allow you to take them it would be pretty hard to explain how you came by it when you go to get it tagged.
Post by: MtnMuley on February 18, 2011, 08:02:43 AM
Post by: TeacherMan on March 13, 2011, 09:04:54 PM
Fortunately, my wife, Weathergirl, has a WDFW salvage permit for educational purposes. ;)
Since I'm a science teacher can I get one for educational purposes. I wont even sell the fur :chuckle: So but seriously I would like to get one.
Post by: lokidog on March 14, 2011, 07:24:30 AM
For WA you need to contact WDFW (mammals and non-protected birds, bird nests, I think you need to specify what you are looking for), you also need a Ffederal Permit for protected birds like songbirds, herons, and sea birds. Of course, endangered species are off-limits.
Finding the critters is easy, trying to figure out how to pay for all the taxidermy is the hard part. Could be fun if you had enough critters to have an advanced bio class prepare mammal and bird study skins if nothing else.
Post by: grundy53 on March 14, 2011, 08:32:08 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on March 14, 2011, 04:30:45 PM
Post by: Hannibal on March 15, 2011, 09:22:20 PM
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There fun to watch where I watch them in a mountain creek, and not doing too much harm at all
wellllll,,,,,,,,, the creek were they "were" fun to watch now has cut thought trout in it again.....???????? by my house....
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 15, 2011, 09:34:07 PM
Post by: grundy53 on March 15, 2011, 09:37:28 PM
River wolves. I've seen lots...and they were killing steelhead one right after the other. I see the most on the Hoh, one day they were everywhere, cleaned out every steelie in a couple big holes.
Yup, no better then wolves or sea lions.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 15, 2011, 09:45:27 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 15, 2011, 09:57:14 PM
Otter takes Steelhead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkDNvMte9zA#)
One day just below the Sol Duc hatchery I watched two otters drag a steelhead out that was significantly larger than the biggest otter, 25# maybe. They left it by a tree and then went back in for another fish. About 10 minutes later they had another....and drug it out and placed it next to the other fish. Then they went back into the water. They might have been eating them later on, but while I was watching, they were just collecting a big pile. Possibly just having having fun. It was really annoying, because I had fished there for a while without even a strike. They proved there were fish in that area though. Maybe the fish won't bite when they are around. I've had salmon stop biting in the Hoh when the seals start swimming up river with the tide and tuna stop when sharks/dolphins are around.
Post by: MtnMuley on March 16, 2011, 08:13:08 AM
QuoteThere fun to watch where I watch them in a mountain creek, and not doing too much harm at all
wellllll,,,,,,,,, the creek were they "were" fun to watch now has cut thought trout in it again.....???????? by my house....
I will guarantee you have no house near the creek I'm talking about. I firmly believe about trapping them around problem areas, as I have. :)
Yup, no better then wolves or sea lions.
Now you're comparing river otters to wolves? Better educate yourself.
Post by: grundy53 on March 16, 2011, 09:07:45 AM
QuoteThere fun to watch where I watch them in a mountain creek, and not doing too much harm at all
wellllll,,,,,,,,, the creek were they "were" fun to watch now has cut thought trout in it again.....???????? by my house....
I will guarantee you have no house near the creek I'm talking about. I firmly believe about trapping them around problem areas, as I have. :)
Yup, no better then wolves or sea lions.
Now you're comparing river otters to wolves? Better educate yourself.
They do too fish populations what wolves do to elk populations.... so ya.
Post by: MtnMuley on March 16, 2011, 10:10:07 AM
Post by: grundy53 on March 16, 2011, 10:19:51 AM
As I mentioned before, educate yourself. I'm not talking sea lions either. We have a way to maintain river otter populations when they cause trouble, but do we for the wolf?????
I'm merely talking about the animal itself not the way they are regulated. Ok I will go educate myself now. Sorry for thinking otters kill a lot of fish even though I have personally watched them do it on multiple occasions and have seen there affects on local populations....
Post by: MtnMuley on March 16, 2011, 10:38:19 AM
I'm merely talking about the animal itself
So basically what you're saying is that that's an bad animal because it eats fish? So now I guess we should start: 1) Shooting the bald eagles for knocking our young mtn goats off cliffs and decimating their populations in areas. 2) Shoot the red-tailed hawks for cleaning out the chuckar in an old honey hole of mine. 3) Shoot the blue herons for picking off too many trout in the creek where we like to take kids fishing. 4) Shoot every bear you see because they have been known to damage fawn populations........etc.........
Post by: grundy53 on March 16, 2011, 10:50:21 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on March 16, 2011, 11:03:41 AM
Post by: grundy53 on March 16, 2011, 11:24:35 AM
Post by: one more on March 16, 2011, 12:48:01 PM
Otters like every other fur animal should be caught during the winter when their beautiful fur is prime. It is a natural resource that should be enjoyed.
Diane
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on March 16, 2011, 07:54:07 PM
I have not seen any trout rising in this pond since. Last Fall the pond was full of trout dimpling the surface!! I agree that Otters are neat to see in the wild, but they are very very efficient predators!
Post by: brew on March 16, 2011, 08:09:13 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 16, 2011, 08:18:13 PM
Is it legal to trap them? If so who wants to do it?
when is the season over?
Post by: Hannibal on March 16, 2011, 08:27:56 PM
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Trapping is a management tool
Post by: rasbo on March 16, 2011, 08:30:20 PM
I'm cuter................ and wwwwaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy more fun to watch!!a 10 at 2 you are LOL
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Trapping is a management tool
Post by: Hannibal on March 16, 2011, 08:30:52 PM
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Is it legal to trap them? If so who wants to do it?
when is the season over?
It is legal..... season ends the end of the month...
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 16, 2011, 08:32:19 PM
Well I guess next year I can pursue that.QuoteIs it legal to trap them? If so who wants to do it?
when is the season over?
It is legal..... season ends the end of the month...
Post by: brew on March 16, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
Post by: wingnuts on March 16, 2011, 08:40:47 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 16, 2011, 08:52:41 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on March 18, 2011, 12:36:31 AM