River otters

[grundy53]

I understand they are cool to watch. unfortunatlly what you watching is them killing the heck out of fish. It's like saying the sea lions on the columbia are fun to watch. I hate them. I just wish you could legally shoot them. just my 

[MtnMuley]

There fun as hell to watch where I watch them in a mountain creek, and not doing too much harm at all.

[Hannibal]

There fun to watch where I watch them in a mountain creek, and not doing too much harm at all

wellllll,,,,,,,,, the creek were they "were" fun to watch now has cut thought trout in it again.....?? by my house....

[JimmyHoffa]

River wolves.  I've seen lots...and they were killing steelhead one right after the other.  I see the most on the Hoh, one day they were everywhere, cleaned out every steelie in a couple big holes.

[grundy53]

River wolves.  I've seen lots...and they were killing steelhead one right after the other.  I see the most on the Hoh, one day they were everywhere, cleaned out every steelie in a couple big holes.

Yup, no better then wolves or sea lions.

[CAMPMEAT]

You're talking about this little beauty on the Kettle River eating a big brownie.....

[JimmyHoffa]

Here is a youtube video of an otter eating a steelhead.
Otter takes Steelhead

One day just below the Sol Duc hatchery I watched two otters drag a steelhead out that was significantly larger than the biggest otter, 25# maybe.  They left it by a tree and then went back in for another fish.  About 10 minutes later they had another....and drug it out and placed it next to the other fish.  Then they went back into the water.  They might have been eating them later on, but while I was watching, they were  just collecting a big pile.  Possibly just having having fun.  It was really annoying, because I had fished there for a while without even a strike.  They proved there were fish in that area though.  Maybe the fish won't bite when they are around.  I've had salmon stop biting in the Hoh when the seals start swimming up river with the tide and tuna stop when sharks/dolphins are around.

[MtnMuley]

There fun to watch where I watch them in a mountain creek, and not doing too much harm at all

wellllll,,,,,,,,, the creek were they "were" fun to watch now has cut thought trout in it again.....?? by my house....

I will guarantee you have no house near the creek I'm talking about.  I firmly believe about trapping them around problem areas, as I have.

Yup, no better then wolves or sea lions.

Now you're comparing river otters to wolves?  Better educate yourself.

[grundy53]

There fun to watch where I watch them in a mountain creek, and not doing too much harm at all

wellllll,,,,,,,,, the creek were they "were" fun to watch now has cut thought trout in it again.....?? by my house....

I will guarantee you have no house near the creek I'm talking about.  I firmly believe about trapping them around problem areas, as I have.

Yup, no better then wolves or sea lions.

Now you're comparing river otters to wolves?  Better educate yourself.

They do too fish populations what wolves do to elk populations.... so ya.

[MtnMuley]

As I mentioned before, educate yourself.  I'm not talking sea lions either.  We have a way to maintain river otter populations when they cause trouble, but do we for the wolf??

[grundy53]

As I mentioned before, educate yourself.  I'm not talking sea lions either.  We have a way to maintain river otter populations when they cause trouble, but do we for the wolf??

I'm merely talking about the animal itself not the way they are regulated. Ok I will go educate myself now. Sorry for thinking otters kill a lot of fish even though I have personally watched them do it on multiple occasions and have seen there affects on local populations....

[MtnMuley]

I'm merely talking about the animal itself

So basically what you're saying is that that's an bad animal because it eats fish?  So now I guess we should start: 1)  Shooting the bald eagles for knocking our young mtn goats off cliffs and decimating their populations in areas.  2)  Shoot the red-tailed hawks for cleaning out the chuckar in an old honey hole of mine.  3)  Shoot the blue herons for picking off too many trout in the creek where we like to take kids fishing.  4) Shoot every bear you see because they have been known to damage fawn populations........etc.........

[grundy53]

Other then the bald eagle I feel pretty much the same about those other animals too.

[MtnMuley]

Hmmm.  Interesting.   

[grundy53]

Yep