Post by: phishisgroovin on February 28, 2011, 12:34:49 PM
i can send my contact info to you to give to them
i just acquired a custom mauser barreled action and reciever in 223 and i would like to build it
Post by: phishisgroovin on February 28, 2011, 07:36:50 PM
heres what i have as far as parts. not much needed to get it functional again.
Still debating on what finish i would like to put on it, thinking it would be sweet with a flat black Parkerized finish.
Post by: chrisb on February 28, 2011, 08:09:54 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on February 28, 2011, 08:42:55 PM
i want a nice 2 to 3-lb pull, but i have to spend my money on a parts rifle before i get a trigger.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 01, 2011, 10:25:56 AM
Will be heading over to Yakima to pick them up. :IBCOOL:
I will have replacement parts forever! lol!
Post by: Straight Shooter on March 01, 2011, 11:40:11 AM
Post by: chrisb on March 01, 2011, 12:07:53 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 01, 2011, 06:54:21 PM
I have a Spanish Civil Guardia 1916 in .308. I bought it for a "scout" project. Took it apart and lost interest. I guess I need to find the parts and put it back it together. :osend it to me, i will fix it up for you. i know em inside and out and have excellent repor from fellow members of many of these internet forums.
Or get hold on to it and i will purchase it some day lol!
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 01, 2011, 11:47:51 PM
Post by: AWS on March 02, 2011, 10:20:22 AM
AWS
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 02, 2011, 04:33:37 PM
Picked up my donor rifle today but i cant bring myself to modify it any further as its in seally nice shape and all the numbers are matching.
kind of hard to find that in these rifles.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 07, 2011, 02:51:54 PM
will put it all together, then make it pretty as i can.
After i get back to working again i will buy other things like an adjustable trigger.
Right now i just want to build it and go shooting.
Post by: Jethro on March 07, 2011, 03:19:38 PM
Keep us posted with pictures of your project!
Jeff
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 07, 2011, 03:56:36 PM
i will core out the buttstock like a ruger 77/22 boat paddle stock and do some kind of finger grooves in the forestock (after i figure out what i want to do there).
heres what i am picking up tomorrow and will start the mods tomorrow night, or atleast tear it into 100 pieces and puts parts i will use into kroil for awhile.
Post by: coriantonk on March 08, 2011, 02:32:54 AM
I love those rem 33's looking forward to meeting you tomorrow.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 08, 2011, 02:48:29 AM
I think I recognise that work bench :chuckle:to alot of people these old war horses suck, but i have an addiction to em.
I love those rem 33's looking forward to meeting you tomorrow.
even rusted ones are fun to blast!
most fun i ever had at the range was with a $100 beater, man next to me with a $3000 rifle and probably that much in spotting gear too. saying what a pile of sheyite my old surplus rifles are, him not hitting the bull once at 100 yards with it all, me, no spotting scope, old 100 year old surplus ammo and open sights nail the target 1-oclock in the black.
Watching him huff and puff, putting his gear away pee-oed was the best time ever.
i cant sleep, too excited to get the rifle and start the transformation to .223, actually really stoked. i wanna go shoot it lol!
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 08, 2011, 11:32:42 PM
Heres the before photo of the stock, has a textured finish. not really something i like so ultimately. i had to see what was Under it all.
heres what i started with
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during the brushing and scraping of the stripping process
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that stuff is nasty and sticks to everything be careful using it, wear nitrile gloves too.
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I took the stock into the bathroom and bathed it good with warm water and dish soap. Let it sit for awhile and looked it over.
The bondo was bugging me so out came the carving & inlay tools.
Dont have a clue what the person with the bondo can was thinkng. the stock is a keeper. i wont be needing a new one anytime too soon, only a couple defects under the paint and body filler.
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Nice tiger stripes hiding under all that paint & bondo.
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bondo gone
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I have a feeling this will be a very nice looking rifle when completed. I hope i do it all right and it shoots good also.
now to find me a steel buttplate to mount on the rear of the stock like it used to have. No more bondo for this old log.
I am actually really excited that the wood is in great shape! its a big surprize lol! I thought it would have been a butchered battle stock but i dont think thats the case here, this one was professionally sporterized at one time. now it will be touched by my magic, hope i do it justice.
Post by: lazydrifter on March 09, 2011, 07:37:44 AM
Post by: quadrafire on March 09, 2011, 08:08:34 AM
Gets me motivated to do one of my own. A hand-me-down 8x57, already semi-sporterized, but could use some stock work.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 09, 2011, 09:51:52 AM
quadfire, they are alot of fun to work on, knowing a ifle that you made your own and making them all purty is awsome.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 09, 2011, 12:21:17 PM
Post by: quadrafire on March 09, 2011, 01:01:03 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 09, 2011, 01:07:59 PM
Are you gonna glas bed it?probably only the reciever, the barrel will be fitting just inside the stock tightly but free floated the complete length with a business card gap the entire length from the face of the reciever out.
Post by: quadrafire on March 09, 2011, 01:12:15 PM
send pics of that step also if you would ;)
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 09, 2011, 04:26:20 PM
Any clues on what would work, needs to withstand impacts from the ground if i drop it though.
I might have to plasti-weld a pice onto the top and mold it into the shape of the tang that goes over the top of the butt.
Post by: 724wd on March 10, 2011, 12:16:58 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 10, 2011, 03:00:56 PM
wont for a while either, atleast until i get back to work again.
With the stock tip being weird on this rifle, i went outside to look around for a chunk of my smoker wood (cherry) to place on it and remove the knot with a dowel in it.
while i was out there i noticed the stick my dog used to chew on (Dayzey our 120-lb pitbull) before we had to put her down last week.
I think i am going to do my best to graft that branch in there instead of something else, i just hope i can keep a few of her chew marks in the wood and fill them with verethane then sand the filler flush with the wood as my own personal little tribute in her honor.
I really miss my dayzey.
Post by: quadrafire on March 10, 2011, 06:00:45 PM
check this out
http://www.hallowellco.com/schnabel_forend.htm (http://www.hallowellco.com/schnabel_forend.htm)
Post by: Fishnclifff on March 10, 2011, 06:07:33 PM
Post by: lazydrifter on March 10, 2011, 08:25:38 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 10, 2011, 08:35:15 PM
Hard part was matching up the chew toy to the hole i made.
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dug the chew stick out of the shelf.
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oops, cut stick too narrow, friggin fence on table saw moved. :bash:
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took it back outside and trimmed the other end.
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2 ton epoxy time, put that in the dowel hole, and inserted a dowel, then slopped it all over each surface, then the surfaces of the chew toy.
pushed it together and clamped it. stuff sets fast, clamps dont need to be on there longer than 15 minutes.
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clamps off
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I will let this sit for a day or so, i should be able to start shaping it tomorrow afternoon, i am keeping the tip as it was, but i wanted to put that chew stick on the rifle somehow.
I may use more of it to cover the epoxy square holes on the side of the stock as well. just have to think up a plan on how.
I also made a template for the butt plate with cardboard.
I might make a cherrywood buttplate for this.
Post by: lazydrifter on March 11, 2011, 12:26:51 PM
Brant
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 11, 2011, 03:09:33 PM
I dont know if i am going to like how the barrel fits the channel in the stock, its awfully uneven from the last person that worked on this.
I might have to so some more laminating of wood materials to square it all up. not sure yet.
Maybe if i bed the whole barrel and then trim the glass bedding down instead of gluing wood in. the top of the rail will be painted brown anyhow.
the rear tang on the reciever also looks funny to me, the person before me sanded too much wood off, i might have to graft an elk antler on it back there to raise the stock surface there also.
But it looks like a gun again. here is what i did today.
ground off the bulk of the stick i put in the tip.
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Action and barrel resting in the stock for a picture.
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Post by: quadrafire on March 13, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 14, 2011, 11:19:40 AM
Will also do a re-bedding on the reciever as well to make is rock solid.
I will also somehow place an aluminum rod in the forestock for added strength to prevent warping.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 15, 2011, 06:27:36 PM
I found that butt plate. PM me your address and I'll get this out in the next couple of days.AWSOME! Fits great! it was in the mailbox today.
Brant
I will find some screws for it at the gunshow this month and mount it with the correct ones.
Only needs a little bit of fitting and it will be on there for life.
Love my steel buttplates lol! Thanks again!
Post by: lazydrifter on March 16, 2011, 06:33:26 AM
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 16, 2011, 11:08:12 AM
I didn't even think about the screws. I'll check later today when I get home. I might have those also.thats ok, i got some last night thanks again!
now i either have to add wood to the sides of the butt or grind away some steel. havent decided yet.
Post by: lazydrifter on March 16, 2011, 05:54:27 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 18, 2011, 02:56:08 AM
worked it over with 320 wet dry cut into strips. old fashioned way but it does a nice job with a little effort and elbow grease.
have to get soe durafil or something to fill in the little pits in the reciever.
then sand the reciever all over again lol
tomorrow i think i will attack the too long lug bolt on the rear tang.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 18, 2011, 08:15:22 PM
i taped two layers of 10mil pvc tape on the barrel, then applied a ton of car wax all over it (i do mean a ton too).
greased up the forward end of the reciever aswell just in case the goo flows down that way.
I used GOOP brand supermend for my filler as its a 1/1 mixture and allows plenty of time to dink around before it hardens.
after it cures overnight it can be drilled, tapped, machined and its also great for casting your own fishing lures with too. its impervious to amost all chemicals and waterproof too.
dont get it on anything that does not matter to you, once it hits it there forever.
i was only trying to fill in under the barrel so everything was even under there again, looks like i did the job perfect so far. its floated still from chamber to tip of the stock, so thats all that matters to me, will hit the action tomorrow.
I also skimmed the top of the reciever with the epoxy, i am filling in pitting that was there, i will fill the rest tonight before i hit the rack, tomorrow i will file and sand all the surfaces flush again and the action and barrel will be ready for duracoating in a week (or atleast 2 days), making sure i let the epoxy gas out before applying anything on top of it to prevent bubbles in the paint.
Post by: quadrafire on March 18, 2011, 08:46:28 PM
I am loving it. Keep it coming. I really like the pics/tutorial.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 18, 2011, 08:51:56 PM
Have you had to do laundry since this project started? :chuckle:lol! yeah, usually my wife will tell me she needs the work bench a couple hours ahead of the time she needs to wash stuff.
I am loving it. Keep it coming. I really like the pics/tutorial.
other than that i usually put all my stuff away every night.
really wish i had a heated garage ( or any garage for that matter) with a real workbench, but i do with what we have i guess.
It is kind of a pain to wok on stuff on it. but its a bench to work on.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 21, 2011, 03:39:51 AM
I dont think its a big deal, gives it character i think.
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Tomorrow, i will set in some more filler on the reciever, then find out where and how i can get the steel parts coated and baked to cure.
I will also be needing to bend the bolt handle and drill & tap the reciever for weaver mounts somehow also.
I think my buddy is asking his friend to see if he has time to help with that though.
I am happy with how its turning out so for. I think its looking quite well.
Wish i had a bunch of Coyote canine teeth. i would inlay them in the bad spot on the buttstock lol! one on each side.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 22, 2011, 02:40:32 AM
Thank god for 600 grit paper and cardboard on my dremmel. hand got tired and used the dremmel in tight spots, avoided the face on the front of the handle lug though, dont want to mess with that part. just rubbed it with cotton shirt strips and buffing compond to get it out of the dull stage.
Didnt want to mess with headspacing sanding on that area.
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still have a little more filling to do to a pit i see.
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rest of them are filled and ready for some type of coating now.
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need to scour inside of the reciever with brake parts cleaner also.
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bore needs some attention seriously too. will be filling that up with kroil and letting it sit a couple days with periodical scrubbings.
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Post by: phishisgroovin on March 23, 2011, 04:33:59 AM
I used a couple blocks of MDF wood behind the follower, chopped an AR-15 spring down so the follower would sit flat on the bottom plate.
cycled a couple rounds (no trigger or sear on my rifle so its safe).
it needs some tweaking, but dang if it doesnt work. :tup:
doesnt work great, but it works none the less.
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Post by: coriantonk on March 23, 2011, 09:11:09 AM
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 23, 2011, 01:45:34 PM
I was wondering how you were going to work out the necessary magazine modification. I love project that make you try new things. Great write up so far. :tup:its still proving to be a pain in my arse, i have to make those two outer lips on top of the magwell (bottom of the reciever) narrower to hold the shell casings better when it gets to two rounds, otherwise they fly out of the magazine.
i am thinking about some thin hardened steel with rolled tops to create a cradle on top, one side only might work, but i want both sides done so it looks even, i will use that white butcherblock material or aluminum for the final block to fill the space behind the follower also. just have to find where i can buy a small chunk (or 6 in case i mess up).
Post by: quadrafire on March 23, 2011, 02:03:05 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 23, 2011, 02:34:02 PM
You could just make it a single shot and save yourself alot of time ;).honestly, i am not too fond of single shots, thats also the easy way out.
I am bound and determined to make this work. :chuckle:
if i wanted to have a single shot, i would have gone to cabelas or Bens loans and looked for a rossi or something.
how many people do you know that have a functional .223 mauser with a working magazine.
not many have went that far, i am different than the average joe. i like my projects to work correctly or not at all. Just my way of doing things.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 23, 2011, 03:26:44 PM
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this can be done by bending a square stock rod around a .223 casing in a vise also, then fitted to the bolt face and silver soldered in place or hang the comlete bolt in a jar, fill with water and freeze it up to the lip on the front of the bolt, then weld the insert with a tig too using silver rod.
Ice will keep the bolt cold while welding it up. a jewler can also solder the insert in place too, they have the proper torched to direct the heat exactly where needed so it doesnt over heat the whole bolt.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 24, 2011, 08:23:57 PM
Decided to try and make what i need, i got it almost perfect, but the back wall is too far forward so i will move it tomorrow. too tired right now.
I also have to lower the makeshift ramp on the front of the mag insert too. it almost feeds right, but only holds one round right now. i also have to trim the tabs i left on top to hold the ammo in the mag a little tighter.
it will work tomorrow! :chuckle: (i hope)
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Rolled the tops over.
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soldering time, wish i had a jewlers torch
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after tomorrow i will have more than one round in it.
hope the feed works after trimming the ramp and the folded over parts
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 25, 2011, 07:47:19 PM
i can cycle 5 rounds almost perfect now!
just have to get a cupping indent in the loading ramp i made and it will be golden! :IBCOOL:
now to work on extraction issues, have to tighten the grip on the cases somehow, this may be a smith job though. so i will wait and see how well it extracts spent casings first.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 26, 2011, 06:11:38 PM
looked all over the gun show for other things like weaver bases and whatnot. didnt really find any worth looking past the price tags and asking prices they wanted.
found a few things i would liked to have gotten but cost wasnt in the pallpark.
Then after giving up on looking for parts, i remembered i needed something to inlay into the stock and hide the horrendouse patch on the side of the buttstock, found a person that had two Badger claws. So now i will have two matching Badger claws inlaid in to the buttstock where the side sling mount was.
Post by: quadrafire on March 28, 2011, 08:41:14 AM
You have way more patience (and creativity) than me.
I am enjoying this thread by the way.
Post by: phishisgroovin on March 28, 2011, 10:14:31 AM
Not going to be working on this for awhile until i feel better and the shakes go away.
I was dubbed mr bolt action at the show saturday, when i walked up on my buddys table, i guess i looked right passed the AK's & AR's to the hunting rifles and the guys noticed this. they started laughing that i am a bolt action junkie lol!
theres just something intriguing about how they function and the history in some of them that attracts me. for some reason i am just not into all these commercial rifles that cost an arm and a leg, maybe because i cannot afford them lol!
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 03, 2011, 01:30:12 PM
Cant (WONT!) pay $75 per hole to have a smith drill & tap my reciever.
friggin obsurd to charge that much for a stupid hole!
Covering the barrel and action in grease, wrapping it in wax paper and throwing it in a corner of my shed or something til i can afford the tools to complete everything myself later on.
Sucks the donkey, but it is what it is. :bash:
Post by: KillBilly on April 03, 2011, 02:40:39 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 03, 2011, 02:59:49 PM
I know a sith who will probably do it cheaper than that. do you want me to ask him? detail what you need done pleaseI cant afford to pay anyone to do it for me, i will have to wait till i buy my own jig to drill & tap here at home.
My buddy said his shooting friend that is a machinist would do it, but waiting for someone else to have free time is killing my patience with all this free time on my hands and nothing to tinker with.
thanks though, much appreciated.
Post by: dontgetcrabs on April 04, 2011, 04:59:17 PM
I know a sith who will probably do it cheaper than that. do you want me to ask him? detail what you need done pleaseI cant afford to pay anyone to do it for me, i will have to wait till i buy my own jig to drill & tap here at home.
My buddy said his shooting friend that is a machinist would do it, but waiting for someone else to have free time is killing my patience with all this free time on my hands and nothing to tinker with.
thanks though, much appreciated.
How much is the jig you need? Cool project you have going on. I would like to see it finished. :hello:
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 04, 2011, 05:17:50 PM
they go for $56 to $100 onlineI know a sith who will probably do it cheaper than that. do you want me to ask him? detail what you need done pleaseI cant afford to pay anyone to do it for me, i will have to wait till i buy my own jig to drill & tap here at home.
My buddy said his shooting friend that is a machinist would do it, but waiting for someone else to have free time is killing my patience with all this free time on my hands and nothing to tinker with.
thanks though, much appreciated.
How much is the jig you need? Cool project you have going on. I would like to see it finished. :hello:
sun optics scope jig for google search.
Post by: quadrafire on April 04, 2011, 08:54:02 PM
If not, I like the looks of this. Then you won't need the scope base d/t for now.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=769171 (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=769171)
You need to keep going on this project you big tease :chuckle:
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 04, 2011, 09:12:20 PM
Have you already ground off the rear sight housing?was no sights on the rifle when i got it. it will be a clean scoped custom once i can get back to work on it, if my truck canopy sells soon i will have the scope drilling jig and be able to also make a few bucks doing other rifles for friends to buy other things for my hobby lol!
If not, I like the looks of this. Then you won't need the scope base d/t for now.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=769171 (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=769171)
You need to keep going on this project you big tease :chuckle:
One thing my eyes arent too fond of is open sights, they always blur on me if i shoot more than 5 rounds with iron sights for some reason. then i have to wear the fucus helpers for awhile. :bash:
Have great vision, my eyes are just getting lazy in their old age and focus alot slower than they used to.
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 04, 2011, 09:21:08 PM
too funny lol!
You need to keep going on this project you big tease :chuckle:
I wish i could, i am bored and at a dead stop until its drilled lol!
i cant coat the reciever or barrel until i drill it, dont want any scratches in my finish until i earn them from hunting trips lol!
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 04, 2011, 10:18:29 PM
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Post by: phishisgroovin on April 05, 2011, 08:08:49 PM
this project just got put on the WAY WAY back burner.
i am in limbo for vocational payments now, dont know if or when i will recieve anymore money, what i do get will unfortunately go straight into rent & bills. So this rifle wont be getting finished any time too soon.
That and the CDL driving school i was going to enter also closed their doors to private students, they are moving to only Governmental training positions like border patrol, Fire & rescue, Military & police.
Really sucks the donkey to work with a person in the school for over a year to walk in finally and sign all the paperwork and be told they stopped training civilian drivers "YESTERDAY".
Bass --- Turds.
Post by: quadrafire on April 05, 2011, 08:28:11 PM
Keep your chin up
Post by: KillBilly on April 06, 2011, 04:30:41 PM
well, L&I just closed my claim on me for vocational purposes.dontgetcrabs and I purchased the drill jig and I will send it to you when I receive it. at least you will be able to get that part done. Wish I could help more.
this project just got put on the WAY WAY back burner.
i am in limbo for vocational payments now, dont know if or when i will recieve anymore money, what i do get will unfortunately go straight into rent & bills. So this rifle wont be getting finished any time too soon.
That and the CDL driving school i was going to enter also closed their doors to private students, they are moving to only Governmental training positions like border patrol, Fire & rescue, Military & police.
Really sucks the donkey to work with a person in the school for over a year to walk in finally and sign all the paperwork and be told they stopped training civilian drivers "YESTERDAY".
Bass --- Turds.
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 06, 2011, 05:27:44 PM
Thanks! i am am stoked! wow...
if i dont bugger up my rifle using it, i will be able to help out people on the forums here with it also! :IBCOOL:
These scope mount jigs look pretty well built too for the price!
Scope Mount Drill Jig Sun Optics USA P/N ST1878 Sun Optics USA Scope Mount Drill Jig of Pro Gun Smith Quality. The scope mount drill jig works on all Springfields, All Enfields, All year Mausers & all Japanesse make rifles. Sun Optics USA Scope Mount Drill Jig Aligns Holes with Bore Using a Precision Ground Arbor Inserted Into the Receiver in Place of the Bolt. No Measuring is Required. The Drill Jig Includes: 1ea. Base Block 1ea. 31 Drill 1ea. 6X48 Tap 2ea. Jig Bars (marked S & M) 2ea. Allen Cap Screws 1ea
Man i cant wait, all my old surplus beaters will have scopes mounted lol! Have to practice on something lol!
Post by: quadrafire on April 06, 2011, 09:54:25 PM
well, L&I just closed my claim on me for vocational purposes.dontgetcrabs and I purchased the drill jig and I will send it to you when I receive it. at least you will be able to get that part done. Wish I could help more.
this project just got put on the WAY WAY back burner.
i am in limbo for vocational payments now, dont know if or when i will recieve anymore money, what i do get will unfortunately go straight into rent & bills. So this rifle wont be getting finished any time too soon.
That and the CDL driving school i was going to enter also closed their doors to private students, they are moving to only Governmental training positions like border patrol, Fire & rescue, Military & police.
Really sucks the donkey to work with a person in the school for over a year to walk in finally and sign all the paperwork and be told they stopped training civilian drivers "YESTERDAY".
Bass --- Turds.
That is what makes this site so Cool. Awsome guys. You are amazing.
They were probably getting bored to as well, waiting to see the "finished Product" :chuckle: Keep up the good work guys. ----------Sweet.
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 07, 2011, 01:41:56 PM
wish i had 8 coyote canine teeth, i would inlay them in a star pattern on each side of the buttstock.
That would look really neat i think.
when this is ready to kill some dogs, i will need to dave up on teeth and claws lol!
Post by: KillBilly on April 07, 2011, 02:42:52 PM
Whoah! :o Seriously? wow.I hope this don't burst your bubble but I forgot to mention that when you get done drilling and tapping all of your rifleS, crabs and I wanted it back. We might have some use for it too, or be able to loan it again or sell it. I hope this doesn't mean you won't love us anymore. :chuckle:
Thanks! i am am stoked! wow...
if i dont bugger up my rifle using it, i will be able to help out people on the forums here with it also! :IBCOOL:
These scope mount jigs look pretty well built too for the price!
Scope Mount Drill Jig Sun Optics USA P/N ST1878 Sun Optics USA Scope Mount Drill Jig of Pro Gun Smith Quality. The scope mount drill jig works on all Springfields, All Enfields, All year Mausers & all Japanesse make rifles. Sun Optics USA Scope Mount Drill Jig Aligns Holes with Bore Using a Precision Ground Arbor Inserted Into the Receiver in Place of the Bolt. No Measuring is Required. The Drill Jig Includes: 1ea. Base Block 1ea. 31 Drill 1ea. 6X48 Tap 2ea. Jig Bars (marked S & M) 2ea. Allen Cap Screws 1ea
Man i cant wait, all my old surplus beaters will have scopes mounted lol! Have to practice on something lol!
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 07, 2011, 02:52:06 PM
heck, just to be able to drill & tap this one project is great for me! :IBCOOL:
then i can atleast move forward with the project lol!
i will however be buying one as soon as i have a little extra spending money again. I want one so i can improve on it also and make it do a few other types of rifles as well.
Post by: KillBilly on April 07, 2011, 03:55:15 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 07, 2011, 08:02:11 PM
I'll leave it up to crabs, He hasn't paid me his half yet so if he doesn't care, I'll just donate it to the cause. Hell it aint nuthin but money, friends are worth more...i will buy it from you in a few days if i can get the funds....friends are more important than any posession period.
atleast with somone on the site having one, other members will benefit. times are too hard for everyone to not stick together here lol!
Post by: KillBilly on April 08, 2011, 02:09:28 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 08, 2011, 11:06:55 PM
I cant wait to make a mess on the washer with it lol! :IBCOOL:
Have to run up to McLendons hardware first though and check the #31 bits they have there with the pilot sleeve included in the kit though, seems as if the bit they sent with the kit is a little too big for the pilot sleeve hole. want to be careful, only want to drill each hole once rather than weld them shut and starting over after filling the holes because they are too large.
Cant wait to give this jig a go-round and get on with more progress. :IBCOOL:
Post by: KillBilly on April 09, 2011, 07:56:17 AM
I picked this scope jig up from KillBilly today, Thank you KillBilly!
I cant wait to make a mess on the washer with it lol! :IBCOOL:
Have to run up to McLendons hardware first though and check the #31 bits they have there with the pilot sleeve included in the kit though, seems as if the bit they sent with the kit is a little too big for the pilot sleeve hole. want to be careful, only want to drill each hole once rather than weld them shut and starting over after filling the holes because they are too large.
Cant wait to give this jig a go-round and get on with more progress. :IBCOOL:
Randy, you should call the company and ask them to make it right if they sent the wrong bit or pilot sleeve.
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 09, 2011, 10:47:15 AM
i will call them on Monday, i actually want shorter bits though so they have less tendancy to wander. the shorter screw bits always do a better job on precision holes a machinist told me at my last job. I just cant use carbide because they will drill super hard steel easier, that means i could break a tap off in there easier lol! :chuckle: that would ruin my day.I picked this scope jig up from KillBilly today, Thank you KillBilly!
I cant wait to make a mess on the washer with it lol! :IBCOOL:
Have to run up to McLendons hardware first though and check the #31 bits they have there with the pilot sleeve included in the kit though, seems as if the bit they sent with the kit is a little too big for the pilot sleeve hole. want to be careful, only want to drill each hole once rather than weld them shut and starting over after filling the holes because they are too large.
Cant wait to give this jig a go-round and get on with more progress. :IBCOOL:
Randy, you should call the company and ask them to make it right if they sent the wrong bit or pilot sleeve.
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 11, 2011, 10:28:13 AM
havent worked on the rifle for awhile.
Post by: quadrafire on April 11, 2011, 01:21:33 PM
You should be beat like this horse, for leaving us hanging.
Turkey hunting can wait :chuckle:
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 17, 2011, 05:46:33 PM
cant get anyone to go out and hunt with me when i can get out, may as well just spend the money on something rather than buy license and tags for something and not use them.
Post by: KillBilly on April 22, 2011, 09:54:46 AM
I picked this scope jig up from KillBilly today, Thank you KillBilly!
I cant wait to make a mess on the washer with it lol! :IBCOOL:
Have to run up to McLendons hardware first though and check the #31 bits they have there with the pilot sleeve included in the kit though, seems as if the bit they sent with the kit is a little too big for the pilot sleeve hole. want to be careful, only want to drill each hole once rather than weld them shut and starting over after filling the holes because they are too large.
Cant wait to give this jig a go-round and get on with more progress. :IBCOOL:
I want to clarify that dontgetcrabs participated in this purchase and we both feel it is a worthy cause to help out a friend in need. This is not the first time for either of us and it probably won't be the last.
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 22, 2011, 10:31:37 AM
i have to run the top of the reciever through a milling machine even though i have the Jig, its not perfectly flat and the front ring leans towards the rear, i dont want to bind the scope mount or have the scope rings leaning back towards the butt either.
Just has too much angle on it and i dont want goddy looking shims showing under the scope mount.
Post by: quadrafire on April 22, 2011, 05:17:07 PM
thanks dontgetcrabs!!!!!!!
i have to run the top of the reciever through a milling machine even though i have the Jig, its not perfectly flat and the front ring leans towards the rear, i dont want to bind the scope mount or have the scope rings leaning back towards the butt either.
Just has too much angle on it and i dont want goddy looking shims showing under the scope mount.
Not sure how much "lean" there is, but you could drill/tap and mount the bases then, "LAP" the rings for a non-binding scope mount.
Just a thought :twocents: May be cheaper than what you were thinking.
Hey--------Glad to see you back at the project. Beats American Idol any day :chuckle:
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 22, 2011, 09:39:29 PM
I was thinking about that also, i have to still go and pick out the mount i want to use, dont know if i want two piece or one, but i am told a one piece will be better than dual bases.thanks dontgetcrabs!!!!!!!Not sure how much "lean" there is, but you could drill/tap and mount the bases then, "LAP" the rings for a non-binding scope mount.
i have to run the top of the reciever through a milling machine even though i have the Jig, its not perfectly flat and the front ring leans towards the rear, i dont want to bind the scope mount or have the scope rings leaning back towards the butt either.
Just has too much angle on it and i dont want goddy looking shims showing under the scope mount.
Just a thought :twocents: May be cheaper than what you were thinking.
Hey--------Glad to see you back at the project. Beats American Idol any day :chuckle:
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 23, 2011, 08:15:18 PM
worked well! Except the tap sucked ass, atleast it waited to break while i was removing it from the last hole. have to stock up on some new ones.
Have to order online i think, proprietary thread 6/40 or 42. Hardware doesnt carry them.
I had to anneal the steel on each hole with my torch, heated a rod (nail) to almost melting, then placed it in the center punch mark until it cooled on each of the holes, did the job perfect!
heres my destruction for today. went with a two piece mounting system due to cost, 8mmman helped me with the front one, but i had to buy the rear one still even though i got one i could have worked withm but my file was missing in action today and weather was take a ride to the sporting goods store weather.
Scope will be changed out.
Have to change the bolt handle also too.
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going to coat it soon with affordable stuff i have used before, header paint. all i can afford and i already have it, works well, chemical resistant after baking it at 350 to 400 for 30 minutes, then letting it cool completely then baking it again at 400 for an hour. i wont dare bake it any hotter than that.
I also have to turn the bolt down, i got a remington 700 bolt handle i will have put on there, i am cutting this one off at just above the curve, then have someone TIG weld the new one on it.
Post by: fishseeker on April 24, 2011, 12:03:50 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 24, 2011, 12:09:18 PM
Lookin Good GrasshopperThanks Uncle John!
Post by: coriantonk on April 25, 2011, 12:49:34 AM
Post by: quadrafire on April 25, 2011, 09:19:31 AM
Wait a second, that is an outside workbench, not your washer and dryer :chuckle:
:chuckle:
Yea, I was confused as well
Post by: phishisgroovin on April 25, 2011, 10:54:51 AM
Post by: phishisgroovin on May 08, 2011, 10:27:00 PM
Today i coated the stock with 15 coats of Danish oil in natural.
let that sit while i worked on the other stuff Looks good although i will want to still inlay something in the patched areas later on.
i sprayed the actionm barrel and alot of little parts and let them dry, i didnt bake it because i will remove it all again after the camping trip over memorial day.
I used VHT fireproof spray on it, i like the looks. however i noticed i drilled the rear scope base crooked somehow, even though i used the jig i see its possible to screw something up. Oh well i will plug the rear hole and use a one piece scope mount anyhow then hide the rear hole with a screw, paint over it, sand it flush then paint it again. later on i will use durracoat or another name brand gun paint. this stuff works well if you have an oven to use, i dont right now though.
I also changed the bolt handle over the past week to a remington 700 handle & knob. Its still too tall for normal height scope rings though, i will have to stick with taller rings or try a smaller scope. i guess its fine though, i will see when i shoot it at camp..but this way the safety still works too.
heres the outcome of todays venture.
Post by: dontgetcrabs on May 09, 2011, 07:33:46 AM
Post by: quadrafire on May 09, 2011, 09:21:05 AM
Good job.
Post by: phishisgroovin on May 09, 2011, 11:34:51 AM
will have to figure out a different safety device since this one will be inoperable now.
maybe i will just order the sporter safety and call it good.
Post by: phishisgroovin on May 10, 2011, 10:29:56 AM
i will bend the bolt handle to fit my good scope later on, dont want to remove much more steel off the bolt handle until i see how the rifle functions on a range day.
if anyone has a bunch of .223 ammo near kent they dont want let me know i may buy some off you.
Post by: quadrafire on May 10, 2011, 10:42:02 AM
will have to figure out a different safety device since this one will be inoperable now.
maybe i will just order the sporter safety and call it good.
I have a buehler. Timney makes a knockoff. They work well.
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Post by: chrisb on May 12, 2011, 01:03:44 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on May 12, 2011, 09:55:10 PM
can you post up a tutorial on how you changed out that bolt handle? I'd love to be able to put a larger one on mine.my buddy did mine for me, all that it was is a cutoff wheel on a die grinder, cut the bolt off where i wanted it cut, then got a different bolt and cut the handle off that too and married them together with a TIG welder.
i didnt do it myself but it was really basic work if a person knows TIG welding.
Post by: chrisb on May 13, 2011, 08:59:48 AM
can you post up a tutorial on how you changed out that bolt handle? I'd love to be able to put a larger one on mine.my buddy sdid mine for me, all that it was is a cutoff wheel on a die grinder, cut the bolt off where i wanted it cut, then got a different bolt and cut the handle off that too and married them together with a TIG welder.
i didnt do it myself but it was really basic work if a person knows TIG welding.
Damn. I was hoping it was a simple swap out of parts. I don't weld nor do i want to pay a welder to do the work. Thanks though.
Post by: phishisgroovin on May 13, 2011, 09:46:55 AM
if you can cut the parts, many welding shops will do it for a nominal fee of around $40 or less.can you post up a tutorial on how you changed out that bolt handle? I'd love to be able to put a larger one on mine.my buddy sdid mine for me, all that it was is a cutoff wheel on a die grinder, cut the bolt off where i wanted it cut, then got a different bolt and cut the handle off that too and married them together with a TIG welder.
i didnt do it myself but it was really basic work if a person knows TIG welding.
Damn. I was hoping it was a simple swap out of parts. I don't weld nor do i want to pay a welder to do the work. Thanks though.
Post by: chrisb on May 13, 2011, 11:17:27 AM
Post by: TheScottRanch on May 13, 2011, 12:09:30 PM
Post by: KillBilly on May 13, 2011, 12:36:02 PM
got the bolt reworked again, now have short rings and a different scope on it, wanted the wide view new bushnell i have on there. oh well.
i will bend the bolt handle to fit my good scope later on, dont want to remove much more steel off the bolt handle until i see how the rifle functions on a range day.
if anyone has a bunch of .223 ammo near kent they dont want let me know i may buy some off you.
Not near Kent but I will give you some .223 ammo
Post by: phishisgroovin on May 13, 2011, 04:20:37 PM
You owe me 40 bucks :chuckle:as soon as i have $40 again i can send it.
As far as photos of the weld, well i got a couple *censored* files & filed them all away, sanded and now its painted flat steel again. sorry.
Post by: TheScottRanch on May 13, 2011, 04:26:26 PM
Post by: phishisgroovin on May 13, 2011, 04:28:59 PM
i picked up a box the other day & have a box of wolf from the gunshop. also got a bunch of questionable loose surplus rounds.got the bolt reworked again, now have short rings and a different scope on it, wanted the wide view new bushnell i have on there. oh well.
i will bend the bolt handle to fit my good scope later on, dont want to remove much more steel off the bolt handle until i see how the rifle functions on a range day.
if anyone has a bunch of .223 ammo near kent they dont want let me know i may buy some off you.
Not near Kent but I will give you some .223 ammo
i will mosly be shooting my AK47 (mak90) anyhow lol! thanks though KB!
Unless you will be at the gunshow this weekend in puyallup, i will be working a table with Big_Daddy (Gamefishin.com owner) so nobody palms anything while he is filling out FFL papers with folks.
I also have a few friends that would haul it up here and bring it to the show too. i have to ask them. is it ok to give them your ## to call & set up a time to meet you to pick it up for me (he owns westernwashingtonfirearms.com)?
Post by: phishisgroovin on May 13, 2011, 04:33:29 PM
You filed my welds away :bash:no, i gracefully polished them enough so the bolt would go forward and backwards with a scope on the rifle lol!
they were 100% bitchin welds!, PS i should have cut the spur off the side of the bolt shorter lol! oh well, live and learn the hard way, thats how i roll lol! :bash:
Post by: phishisgroovin on November 21, 2011, 07:28:50 PM
I am going to be working on this again soon so i want it closer to the front.
Post by: quadrafire on November 22, 2011, 08:01:35 AM