Post by: Lowedog on March 01, 2011, 02:40:42 PM
How do you guys feel about selling firearms registered to you not going through an FFL? Are guns that we purchase new actually registered to us? Is there a data base that has those serial numbers when we fill out the paper work to be cleared for purchase?
Thanks!
Post by: bobcat on March 01, 2011, 02:42:58 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on March 01, 2011, 02:43:06 PM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on March 01, 2011, 03:05:35 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on March 01, 2011, 03:06:20 PM
Guns? What guns? I have no guns. When I buy one I take it swiming in the Columbia and always loose it. I have no guns.
you do that too??? i thought i was the only one
Post by: Wazukie on March 01, 2011, 03:30:11 PM
Post by: Lowedog on March 01, 2011, 03:44:38 PM
I can guarantee you that if one was to run a serial number that you purchased from an FFL, either hand gun or long gun, your name would be attached to it. I know from experience when I firearm was stolen from my dad, an old 22lr. He had no idea that it was missing until he got a call from the local sheriff about it.
That is what I am afraid of. I have an AR lower that I don't need and got through and FFL. I wonder if I sold it non FFL and for some reason down the road somewhere it is involved in something are the powers that be gonna ask me questions? Or if I just say I sold that they will say OK and go away?
Post by: BIGINNER on March 01, 2011, 03:46:22 PM
I can guarantee you that if one was to run a serial number that you purchased from an FFL, either hand gun or long gun, your name would be attached to it. I know from experience when I firearm was stolen from my dad, an old 22lr. He had no idea that it was missing until he got a call from the local sheriff about it.
That is what I am afraid of. I have an AR lower that I don't need and got through and FFL. I wonder if I sold it non FFL and for some reason down the road somewhere it is involved in something are the powers that be gonna ask me questions? Or if I just say I sold that they will say OK and go away?
thats pretty much how it works,... but its best to at leat have a bill of sale writen out with the persons info just in case :dunno:
Post by: Wazukie on March 01, 2011, 03:51:26 PM
Post by: sisu on March 01, 2011, 03:51:56 PM
Post by: BlackRidge on March 01, 2011, 03:54:06 PM
I can guarantee you that if one was to run a serial number that you purchased from an FFL, either hand gun or long gun, your name would be attached to it. I know from experience when I firearm was stolen from my dad, an old 22lr. He had no idea that it was missing until he got a call from the local sheriff about it.
That is what I am afraid of. I have an AR lower that I don't need and got through and FFL. I wonder if I sold it non FFL and for some reason down the road somewhere it is involved in something are the powers that be gonna ask me questions? Or if I just say I sold that they will say OK and go away?
thats pretty much how it works,... but its best to at leat have a bill of sale writen out with the persons info just in case :dunno:
Yup, make a legally binding contract with all the needed info and you should be good, so long as the person you're selling it to is capable of owning one (to your knowledge). If you want something more official, have the contract notarized
The most important part IMO is making sure the person you're selling it to is trustworthy
Post by: huntandjeep on March 01, 2011, 07:41:46 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on March 01, 2011, 07:55:48 PM
Post by: markts on March 01, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
Post by: Lowedog on March 01, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
I have sold a lot of guns that I bought new. I have never done a bill of sale for any of them. I would not lose a second of sleep selling to anyone that I thought could legally own a gun. If its used in a crime and you are worried about getting in trouble about it then you worry to much. :twocents:
I think you are right! :)
Post by: Jamieb on March 01, 2011, 08:29:27 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 01, 2011, 08:52:01 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 01, 2011, 10:20:48 PM
I'm not too worried about it. But I could see where you might want to do so if dealing with shady characters.
Post by: Lowedog on March 01, 2011, 10:34:11 PM
Post by: lazydrifter on March 04, 2011, 07:47:29 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 04, 2011, 09:48:38 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on March 04, 2011, 09:49:19 PM
I once sold a handgun to a guy i work with. I went to the states website (i think) and downloded a gun transfer form. Then i had him sign it gave him a copy and mailed it to Olympia.
When I bought my AR a month ago I used the local hardware store for the FFL transfer of the lower. They had me fill out the WA state paperwork for pistols as well as the normal long gun background check paperwork. They said the state handles long guns without barrels the same as pistols, so your lower may be registered with the state to you the same as a pistol if you got in WA through an FFL. You might want to follow this suggestion above.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 04, 2011, 10:14:08 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on March 05, 2011, 05:49:27 AM
Post by: KeeKeeBlamo on March 05, 2011, 05:56:01 AM
Post by: machine on March 05, 2011, 10:17:04 AM
I have sold a lot of guns that I bought new. I have never done a bill of sale for any of them. I would not lose a second of sleep selling to anyone that I thought could legally own a gun. If its used in a crime and you are worried about getting in trouble about it then you worry to much. :twocents::yeah:
Post by: Mookie on March 06, 2011, 08:50:15 PM
If an AR stripped lower is sold as a pistol lower, it can never be used legally as a rifle lower. You stick a buttstock on it, and it's in violation of Federal Law. Again a violation of Federal Law. For that reason, most, if not all manufacturers of AR pistols are plainly stamping the lower "Pistol Only".Not true. According to law if a pistol has a stock installed, must be done after a 16+'' barrel is installed or the barrel removed otherwise it is considered an SBR, it is then considered a rifle and THEN cannot be changed to a handgun. Same as if it were a 1911, Glock, 10/22 Charger, T/C.