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Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« on: March 01, 2011, 02:40:42 PM »
Did a search and didn't really find much. 

How do you guys feel about selling firearms registered to you not going through an FFL?  Are guns that we purchase new actually registered to us?  Is there a data base that has those serial numbers when we fill out the paper work to be cleared for purchase? 

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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 02:42:58 PM »
I believe they only keep track of handguns. I know one time several years ago when I purchased a new handgun, a letter was sent out to the city I lived in at that time, notifying them of the purchase.   :rolleyes:

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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 02:43:06 PM »
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE REGISTERED TO YOU,  YOU PASS A BACKGROUND CHECK AND IT SHOWS THAT THE LAST FFL TRANACTION WAS TO YOU.  WHEN I SELL GUNS I JUST HAVE A BILL OF SALE WRITEN OUT FOR MYSELF TO KEEP.  AND IF I SELL THROUGH GUNBROKER I KEEP ALL THE GUNBROKER DOCUMENTS,  :dunno:

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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 03:05:35 PM »
Guns? What guns? I have no guns. When I buy one I take it swiming in the Columbia and always loose it. I have no guns.
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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 03:06:20 PM »
Guns? What guns? I have no guns. When I buy one I take it swiming in the Columbia and always loose it. I have no guns.

you do that too???  i thought i was the only one

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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 03:30:11 PM »
I can guarantee you that if one was to run a serial number that you purchased from an FFL, either hand gun or long gun, your name would be attached to it.  I know from experience when I firearm was stolen from my dad, an old 22lr.  He had no idea that it was missing until he got a call from the local sheriff about it.
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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 03:44:38 PM »
I can guarantee you that if one was to run a serial number that you purchased from an FFL, either hand gun or long gun, your name would be attached to it.  I know from experience when I firearm was stolen from my dad, an old 22lr.  He had no idea that it was missing until he got a call from the local sheriff about it.

That is what I am afraid of.  I have an AR lower that I don't need and got through and FFL.  I wonder if I sold it non FFL and for some reason down the road somewhere it is involved in something are the powers that be gonna ask me questions?  Or if I just say I sold that they will say OK and go away?
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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 03:46:22 PM »
I can guarantee you that if one was to run a serial number that you purchased from an FFL, either hand gun or long gun, your name would be attached to it.  I know from experience when I firearm was stolen from my dad, an old 22lr.  He had no idea that it was missing until he got a call from the local sheriff about it.

That is what I am afraid of.  I have an AR lower that I don't need and got through and FFL.  I wonder if I sold it non FFL and for some reason down the road somewhere it is involved in something are the powers that be gonna ask me questions?  Or if I just say I sold that they will say OK and go away?

thats pretty much how it works,... but its best to at leat have a bill of sale writen out with the persons info just in case   :dunno:

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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 03:51:26 PM »
When I sell or buy a gun i get a bill of sell that has name address phone number and drivers license number. I have a place on the bill of sale(If I am the Seller) where they state and sign that they are not a convicted felon or in no way secluded from owning a firearm.  THis may or not hold up in court if something were to happen but its the way I have done it for the very few I have sold.  If the other party doesn't want to provide the information then the transaction doesn't happen. 
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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 03:51:56 PM »
Once they are sold they are sold. I only sell guns at gun shows. If the person who inquiries about the gun seems like a *censored*bag I'll raise the price so high that it is ridiculous.

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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 03:54:06 PM »
I can guarantee you that if one was to run a serial number that you purchased from an FFL, either hand gun or long gun, your name would be attached to it.  I know from experience when I firearm was stolen from my dad, an old 22lr.  He had no idea that it was missing until he got a call from the local sheriff about it.

That is what I am afraid of.  I have an AR lower that I don't need and got through and FFL.  I wonder if I sold it non FFL and for some reason down the road somewhere it is involved in something are the powers that be gonna ask me questions?  Or if I just say I sold that they will say OK and go away?

thats pretty much how it works,... but its best to at leat have a bill of sale writen out with the persons info just in case   :dunno:

Yup, make a legally binding contract with all the needed info and you should be good, so long as the person you're selling it to is capable of owning one (to your knowledge). If you want something more official, have the contract notarized

The most important part IMO is making sure the person you're selling it to is trustworthy
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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 07:41:46 PM »
I once sold a handgun to a guy i work with. I went to the states website (i think) and downloded a gun transfer form. Then i had him sign it gave him a copy and mailed it to Olympia.
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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 07:55:48 PM »
I have sold a lot of guns that I bought new.  I have never done a bill of sale for any of them.  I would not lose a second of sleep selling to anyone that I thought could legally own a gun.  If its used in a crime and you are worried about getting in trouble about it then you worry to much.   :twocents:
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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 07:57:43 PM »
I had a gun once ;)

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Re: Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 08:15:23 PM »
I have sold a lot of guns that I bought new.  I have never done a bill of sale for any of them.  I would not lose a second of sleep selling to anyone that I thought could legally own a gun.  If its used in a crime and you are worried about getting in trouble about it then you worry to much.   :twocents:

I think you are right!   :)
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