Post by: CamoDup on March 07, 2011, 07:59:36 PM
Post by: fair-chase on March 07, 2011, 08:11:34 PM
Dodge, only the B series or "12 valve" in a pre 1995 older body style.
Ford, 1994-1997 7.3L powerstroke or a turbo charged 6.9L put into the same model years (94-97). One ton only in Fords because the TTB is crap.
Chevy/GMC, the newer the better. One of the few manufacturers who continue to make improvements over time instead of changing programs every couple of years.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 07, 2011, 08:12:36 PM
Post by: woodswalker on March 07, 2011, 08:13:29 PM
Reliable as an anvil even if not the hottest things going...but put the 6 speed behind it.
Post by: 7mag. on March 08, 2011, 03:35:42 PM
Post by: Big10gauge on March 08, 2011, 04:09:20 PM
Post by: wsucowboy on March 08, 2011, 05:12:39 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on March 08, 2011, 05:17:28 PM
:chuckle:
MS
Post by: MIKEXRAY on March 08, 2011, 05:38:25 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on March 08, 2011, 05:52:08 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on March 08, 2011, 05:53:01 PM
I've dug Power stroking for 15 years but I have to admit that I HATE my 2010 power stroke !!! If I would of realized it had that exhaust filter crap and the pain in the butt it is , I would of never bought it. My gas mileage sucks, I feel I lost power & starting to have some problems. ( small oil leak ). My 99 7.3 liter was my favorite. Mike
I know what ya mean. Mine had all that crap but the emissions fairy paid a visit and flew away with all of it! Hello 20 hwy mpg and 15 in town. :)
Post by: MuleySniper on March 08, 2011, 05:53:44 PM
DURAMAX!!!!!
Sounds like a Tampon brand :chuckle:
Post by: Woodchuck on March 08, 2011, 05:58:57 PM
Post by: CamoDup on March 08, 2011, 06:05:37 PM
Post by: alanger on March 08, 2011, 06:08:36 PM
Dream truck,
Ford body, Cummins engine, and Allison transmission. no dodge transmissions. they suck
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on March 08, 2011, 06:17:07 PM
-Steve
Post by: MuleySniper on March 08, 2011, 06:36:37 PM
does all the dirty work and keeps on going :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: WARHORSE on March 08, 2011, 06:39:30 PM
does all the dirty work and keeps on going :chuckle:thats right bent bloody and broken it always seems to get the job done! :chuckle:
Post by: Special T on March 08, 2011, 08:12:28 PM
Post by: Rick on March 08, 2011, 08:43:15 PM
no durtymax for me.
Dream truck,
Ford body, Cummins engine, and Allison transmission. no dodge transmissions. they suck
You must mean the Dodge transmissions suck less than the Allison.
The 48RE in the Dodge actually had fewer TSBs and recalls than the Allison that everyone thinks is so great. So based purely on fact and not opinion,the 48RE was the better tranny.
The Allison 1000 in the GM trucks is NOT the transmission that gave Allison their reputation.
I had an Allison,it was a decent tranny,but nothing spectacular.
Post by: Special T on March 08, 2011, 08:45:27 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on March 08, 2011, 08:49:09 PM
does all the dirty work and keeps on going :chuckle:thats right bent bloody and broken it always seems to get the job done! :chuckle:
I'm thinking more along the lines its out of commission at least once a week every month :chuckle:
MS
Post by: norsepeak on March 08, 2011, 08:53:30 PM
Post by: fair-chase on March 08, 2011, 09:06:03 PM
Post by: 7mag. on March 08, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
I'll stick with my dodge and 6 spd manual. 8)
:tup:
Post by: MtnMuley on March 09, 2011, 03:02:51 PM
Post by: gramps on March 10, 2011, 11:25:06 AM
Post by: GoldTip on March 10, 2011, 11:31:26 AM
Post by: KimberRich on March 10, 2011, 11:32:58 AM
I agree with the below.. I had an Allison in my '04 Duramax and didn't love it. I think if I had to pick any factory tranny it would be the Dodge 6-speed manual.
[The Allison 1000 in the GM trucks is NOT the transmission that gave Allison their reputation.
I had an Allison,it was a decent tranny,but nothing spectacular.
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 10, 2011, 11:49:37 AM
You can smoke a lot of center force clutches for the price of one juice box!That's right because the Center Force clutch can't handle the torque from a diesel engine in stock form let alone Edge'd.
Do it right the first time and throw a South Bend clutch in it.
Post by: Rick on March 10, 2011, 04:34:08 PM
My 48RE tranny has been just fine towing up to 12-14K, have it serviced every 30,000 and it keeps on ticking just fine.
Thats the key to any automatic living a long healthy life.
Keep them cool and running on fresh fluid.
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on March 10, 2011, 04:45:32 PM
Post by: THINK_N_ELK on March 10, 2011, 04:50:57 PM
Post by: Antlerking on March 10, 2011, 04:52:42 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 10, 2011, 04:58:00 PM
That water/meth kit could be the demise of your head gaskets or worse yet bent connecting rods.
Post by: Special T on March 10, 2011, 06:14:27 PM
Post by: THINK_N_ELK on March 10, 2011, 07:34:17 PM
I must say the BEST mod is the exhaust brake. I don't have one because the commercial salesman who sold us our 2 trucks apparently didn't want to sell us on an additional $3500 upgrade. :bash: When we told him we were so excited about the new 6 speed and the MUCH larger brakes because we tow trailers everywhere that should have been his 1st clue. I've talked to several owners with factory brakes and all are pleased. I realize that aftermarket ones are cheeper and may be better, however a stock rig "should" be easier to fix when you break down in podunk and have it towed to the closest dealership...
Mine was 1800 after market installed by Dodge, jake made a exhaust brake just for the Cummins 5.9, as an after market. Then in '07' it started to come as a factory option. I have close to 80k miles and still almost all the brake pads still.
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 10, 2011, 07:45:24 PM
Post by: timberghost72 on March 10, 2011, 08:46:47 PM
Post by: norsepeak on March 10, 2011, 08:56:26 PM
Post by: Rick on March 11, 2011, 08:41:00 AM
Post by: Special T on March 11, 2011, 09:19:52 AM
I haven't had to replace my clutch yet in either truck but will keep that in mind.You can smoke a lot of center force clutches for the price of one juice box!That's right because the Center Force clutch can't handle the torque from a diesel engine in stock form let alone Edge'd.
Do it right the first time and throw a South Bend clutch in it.
Cummins exchaust brakes were avaialbe in 03 for any Stick dodge from the dealer. My price could have been off since that was some time ago. I was just pissed because we could have wrapped it into the truck loan, and a good salesman, should have looked for the up sell. ESPECIALLY since he was the FLEET sales person! :bash: I used to put on over 120K a year pulling trailers, now i'm lucky if i do 50k. At $3.50-$5a gallon i've found that it is much cheaper to ship full trailerloads than try and run them myself. I still would really like a Pac brake but don't do the driving i used to to really justify it.. Or seperate with the cash.
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 11, 2011, 09:32:05 AM
When your clutch gives out, this one's the ticket. Wish they had it available when I cooked mine back in late '06. :(
The SD3250-6k ............. http://southbendclutch.com/dd.html (http://southbendclutch.com/dd.html)
You will need their upgraded clutch hydraulics with this one too.
Post by: Special T on March 11, 2011, 09:39:26 AM
Post by: zmhayward on April 06, 2011, 07:11:41 AM
Post by: Bigtine96 on April 06, 2011, 07:27:58 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on April 06, 2011, 07:35:22 AM
Post by: jstone on April 06, 2011, 08:34:34 AM
Post by: zmhayward on April 06, 2011, 08:46:14 AM
Post by: CJ-5 on April 06, 2011, 09:13:42 AM
20-21 miles per gallon on a 6.0?? What year is your engine, and what is your secret??
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 06, 2011, 09:47:43 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on April 06, 2011, 09:52:28 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on April 06, 2011, 09:57:39 AM
If I run my 95 7.3 in stock mode I get 18 to 20 at 60 mph if im nice.
Post by: Special T on April 06, 2011, 05:16:22 PM
Post by: zmhayward on April 07, 2011, 06:33:41 AM
Post by: cohoho on April 07, 2011, 06:46:58 AM
Post by: MuleySniper on April 07, 2011, 06:53:30 AM
25mph--- REALLY????? Please let us know the secret- haven't ever heard of a Duramax achieving such good mileage, I am all ears for sure... And ready to implement...
25 mph sounds about right for a Duramax :chuckle: :chuckle: Especially when towing
MS
Post by: Woodchuck on April 07, 2011, 07:00:48 AM
MuleySniper is right though, I only go 25 mph when pulling. The Dodges and Fords seem to fall apart if I tow em any faster. :chuckle:
Post by: MADMAX on April 07, 2011, 07:23:25 AM
Pulls everything I own, looks good, goes dang near anywhere and I can turn around.
Does not sound like the kalakala when running (sorry dodge guys)
Flies down the freeway and a pleasure to drive
Downside back seat sucks
Post by: Woodchuck on April 07, 2011, 07:30:03 AM
2007 F-250 extended cab with 6.0, decent milage but never been over 20 mpg I would like to know the trick on that one.
Pulls everything I own, looks good, goes dang near anywhere and I can turn around.
Does not sound like the kalakala when running (sorry dodge guys)
Flies down the freeway and a pleasure to drive
Downside back seat sucks
A sreenname of "MADMAX" and you drive a Ford? :yike: Madmax is what I named my truck. Yes I name my rigs
Post by: 400out on April 07, 2011, 07:34:20 AM
Post by: MADMAX on April 07, 2011, 07:34:25 AM
I bought my first powerstroke when diesel was 99 cents a gallon.
I looked at the duramax but did not like the price or front end back in 07
Post by: Woodchuck on April 07, 2011, 07:41:53 AM
Maybe is time to change a name :chuckle: Jim! :chuckle:Hmmmmmm namechange? I have heard of it :chuckle:
MAX, just givin you a hard time. All of em are pretty good outfits these days.
Post by: MADMAX on April 07, 2011, 07:43:26 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on April 07, 2011, 07:45:20 AM
Post by: MADMAX on April 07, 2011, 07:52:52 AM
Personal opinion
Post by: Woodchuck on April 07, 2011, 07:57:53 AM
Post by: MADMAX on April 07, 2011, 08:02:09 AM
The motor and tranny are good the back seat on the 4 door short boxes are excellent and otherwise it would be my choice for a new truck just really spendy if you ask me.
I got a sweet deal on my Ford and was not looking for a brand new truck when I bought it
Its had a couple of BS problems, worst being head gasket, design flaw on bolts vs studs
warranty covered it
Another stupid Ford thing is no standard equipment block heater I can find and I have looked.
I heard they were only installed as an "option"
Post by: KimberRich on April 07, 2011, 08:06:46 AM
No just the look
The motor and tranny are good the back seat on the 4 door short boxes are excellent and otherwise it would be my choice for a new truck just really spendy if you ask me.
I got a sweet deal on my Ford and was not looking for a brand new truck when I bought it
Its had a couple of BS problems, worst being head gasket, design flaw on bolts vs studs
warranty covered it
Another stupid Ford thing is no standard equipment block heater I can find and I have looked.
I heard they were only installed as an "option"
I'm not positive but I thought all the Ford Diesel's had the block heater but only some of them actually had the harness with the plug installed on it? My Dad and buddy both have '05's and they had the heater but no plug installed. Had to buy one for like $35 I think..
Post by: MADMAX on April 07, 2011, 08:11:40 AM
Thanks I will have it in soon for oil at the dealer and have them look again
Post by: Woodchuck on April 07, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on April 07, 2011, 08:12:55 AM
Post by: MADMAX on April 07, 2011, 08:14:54 AM
I will be under it for a look after work
Post by: jackelope on April 07, 2011, 08:21:55 AM
:yeah: I believe he is right, look inside the frame rail for the harness, had a customer with an 04 and the dealer told him his did not come stock with one. I rolled under it and it had the whole 9 yds. the harness was balled up and zip tied to the frame.
The heater is standard on the Dodge trucks. The cord for the heater is an option.
:o
Post by: jstone on April 07, 2011, 10:29:20 AM
Post by: Rick on April 07, 2011, 10:41:29 AM
The heater is standard on the Dodge trucks. The cord for the heater is an option.
:o
And if you don't the cord from the dealer (sorry Jackelope) they only run about $12
Post by: jstone on April 07, 2011, 11:03:24 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on April 07, 2011, 11:05:41 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on April 07, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
Post by: Special T on April 07, 2011, 12:48:45 PM
Post by: GWP on April 07, 2011, 01:13:51 PM
Post by: 7mag. on April 07, 2011, 07:38:54 PM
I have considered a diesel as opposed to our gas Suburban, but after reading the comments here, I am more confused then ever as to which engine is best. We tow a 24' TT, and are usually loaded down with gear, but our gas 5.3 has done good for us, plus it is quiet and does not 'rattle'. It is a shame they bump up diesel prices just because they can, or I would already have one.
They are all pretty good motors. But if you want fuel economy and power, the Cummins is where it's at. They all last a long time, especially if maintained properly. As far as the rest of the truck, I believe it's a matter of preference. My Dodge has 140000 miles, and it still drives like it has 20000. My brother borrowed it a couple of months ago, and he told me that he thought my odometer was broken, because there is no way that my truck drove that nice with that many miles. Also, my Dodge is very comfortable, more than my buddy's new Ford.
Post by: gonehuntin68 on April 07, 2011, 08:02:46 PM
Post by: jstone on April 08, 2011, 07:23:02 AM
Post by: MADMAX on April 08, 2011, 12:44:05 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 08, 2011, 01:06:50 PM
does anyone have or have had a cummins with the 53 block, and did it crack?Yes I did, in my '98 12 valve.
Never cracked and it's still running with another owner today and 240k on the ticker.
Lord knows I put it to the test though. 700+ hp and many a time of 90+ boost psi with insane drive pressures.
There was no shortage of air and fuel feeding the cylinders. :chuckle:
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 08, 2011, 01:12:19 PM
does anyone have or have had a cummins with the 53 block, and did it crack?You got a cracked one or know of someone who does?
If so, here's the fix.
http://www.locknstitch.com/cummins_5_9_block.htm (http://www.locknstitch.com/cummins_5_9_block.htm)
Many in the drag racing and sled pulling world do this to their 53's before they let go.
Post by: predatorpro on April 08, 2011, 10:55:23 PM
Post by: DRENALINJUNKIE on April 08, 2011, 11:27:50 PM
Post by: GWP on April 09, 2011, 12:02:10 AM
Have seen some of the high HP diesels at the local track. Those are SICK! Very cool indeed. Might start looking around and driving some D rigs as we are going to replace one of our vehicles in the next couple of years. We need the room of a Suburban though. Got to have the big station wagon for the dogs and gear!
Post by: Caseyd on April 09, 2011, 12:45:36 AM
Watch it will go out tomorrow now :chuckle: :bash:
Post by: kenlguy on April 12, 2011, 02:18:08 PM
Post by: actionshooter on April 12, 2011, 08:41:48 PM
Post by: BackwoodsSniper on April 15, 2011, 04:14:55 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on April 25, 2011, 06:48:48 PM
I have a 2008 dodge Mega cab with the 6.7 cummins.
I was getting 14 MPG in town and 16 on the hiway.
My first tank of fuel with the changes was 18.2 in town and 22.7 on the hiway.
We will see how it tows.
I am puting gauges on it this weekend.
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 25, 2011, 06:58:46 PM
Did you get the POD kit too for adjust on the fly?
Which gauges?
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on April 25, 2011, 07:42:59 PM
I ordered a 3 pillar gauge pod and the glowshift gauges (Pyro,Tranny temp, and Boost).
Everything i have read about them has been good. Except 1 bad review but the guy wouldn't say why he didn't like them. He just said they sucked.
Every other review i have found has been good. I have to install them this weekend. I am a little nervous about installing the pyro, but i will get over it.
Post by: MuleySniper on April 25, 2011, 07:49:26 PM
MS
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 25, 2011, 08:10:43 PM
Yeah, i have the POD.Those are good gauges.
I ordered a 3 pillar gauge pod and the glowshift gauges (Pyro,Tranny temp, and Boost).
Everything i have read about them has been good. Except 1 bad review but the guy wouldn't say why he didn't like them. He just said they sucked.
Every other review i have found has been good. I have to install them this weekend. I am a little nervous about installing the pyro, but i will get over it.
Lots of grease on the drill bit and the tap too to minimize the amount of metal shavings that fall into exhaust manifold.
Post by: Special T on April 25, 2011, 08:15:49 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 25, 2011, 08:37:44 PM
I've heard that the programmers have the best results on Automatics. has anyone used one with a stick? From what i've heard they don't make a big dent like they do with Autos???I have one on my '05 Dodge 6 speed.
Not the Smarty jr but the Smarty S04 that was released in 2006. I was a beta tester for the original software.
The shifting limits the 0-70 mph acceleration but that's not really any different than having no programming. Other than that, no real difference.
I do try and pay attention more to throttle lift on the shifts and ease into the throttle on clutch engage when I do program it to the higher programing levels. Just to simply to take care of the drive train, particularly the carrier and the u-joints.
95% of the time it sits on the lower hp and tq settings because the truck really only tows and is not a daily driver.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on April 25, 2011, 09:02:03 PM
I used to have an 05 but i had the 48RE. I Missed the 05 untill i did the deletes and the programmer. I did a 4" turbo back exhaust, installed myself. It blew smoke like nobodies business. Then i found how to unplug the EGR. And the smoke quit.
It is a little noisier, but i like it.
Post by: Special T on April 25, 2011, 09:12:27 PM
Post by: norsepeak on April 25, 2011, 09:26:46 PM
Post by: Special T on April 25, 2011, 09:32:11 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on April 25, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
06 dodge, 6 speed, s&b intake, exhaust and superchips programmer. get 14 mpg pulling 19,000 lbs, and plenty of power. no complaints, except the darn price of diesel!
No kidding! At $150 to fill a tank about anything aftermarket you can afford to increase MPG's is worth it. When I bought my truck new in 07 I remember paying $1.60/gallon then it was all uphill from there.
MS
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 25, 2011, 10:18:26 PM
I get 12 at 26000GVW over the pass stock and 13 up and down the I 5 corridor... And yes diesel is too damn expensive!That's actually not that bad at that weight and stock programming.
At 22-23k, I get just under 15. But I don't exactly have anything resembling stock under the hood. I was under 12 at my lesser GVW. But this is also with a slide in camper plowing the air too.
I'll never re-coup the cost of what I have done in fuel savings, but I didn't do it for that purpose either.
I did see about a 1.5 mpg gain when the truck was still stock and before I through a bunch of money at it.
Yeah, I just swipe the card, squeeze the handle and look the other way it hurts so bad to fill it up.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on April 25, 2011, 10:21:42 PM
I got 12.5-13 over white pass when stock. Then 2 weeks ago i got 9.5-10 towing to the coast.
Also i was taking the truck to the shop for O2 sensors. Well those are gone now. And i am looking at better fuel mileage.
Post by: Special T on April 25, 2011, 10:24:06 PM
Post by: westside Elkhunter on April 26, 2011, 03:45:44 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 26, 2011, 04:26:40 PM
Have a 06 Dodge 2500 quad cab short box with a leveling kit and 35 inch toyos. And 6 speed tranny. Installed a AFE stage II intake and a Hypertech programmer. Get 20 around town and about 22 to 24 on freeway. Next on the list is exhaust and gauges. Does anybody run synthetic oil in their diesels? And how many guys have exhaust brakes and aftermarket clutches on their diesels?No on the synthetic for me. I prefer good old fashioned dinosaur oil. Delo 400 is tough to beat or splurge and use Valvoline Premium Blue. I use the Valvoline PB in my '05 but use the 400 in the Mrs' '07 5.9. Her's is just a pavement princess and doesn't do much heavy work because it's an auto. :chuckle:
Yes on the exhaust brake. PacBrake PRXB. Hands down the best $ I spent!!!
After market clutch, yes. South Bend Clutch disk with their upgraded hydraulics. Blew my stock disk out at 35k. 62k on that clutch now and still going strong.
So why an exhaust upgrade?
If you tow, you might hate it. You will develop a harmonic note in your exhaust that just loves the 67-74 mph range in 6th. If you do, don't delete the resonator in front of the muffler. That's what's keeping the noise out of the cab.
I would give anything to have my OE exhaust back on my '05. Worst $ I spent right here.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on April 26, 2011, 09:22:22 PM
I run Delo 400 in mine.
I also have the 6 speed auto.
I have the turbo back 4" exhaust. And i was amazed that the muffler was not really a muffler. Just a fatter piece of straight pipe that looks like a muffler to anybody looking under the truck.
Post by: vanhornhunter on April 27, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
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Post by: trophyhunt on May 27, 2011, 11:27:19 PM
Post by: Bigtine96 on May 28, 2011, 09:23:57 PM
CUMMINS ALL THE WAY!! All though I need a ATS tranny when this slush box goes....
*censored* truck
Post by: Sneaky on May 28, 2011, 09:43:28 PM
ISUZU POWER (all 85 horses/35mpg of it :chuckle:)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg27.imageshack.us%2Fimg27%2F9532%2Fpupd.jpg&hash=3af2d1bc2ebde53a3b69b8f87ec572891bfa57d0)
Post by: THINK_N_ELK on May 29, 2011, 09:23:36 AM
Cummins, with a 6 speed.
06 5.6 cummins w/ 6 speed and Jake Brake. Plenty of towing power and decent fuel mileage.
Post by: KNOXY on May 29, 2011, 12:03:11 PM
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Post by: 6x6in6 on June 28, 2011, 11:17:59 PM
My "little" brother made a a hell of a score He bought a 96-97 Ford 7.3 4x4 F350 crewcab Stick 320k miles for $4300 and the guy took payments! It has the flywheel up grade and new injectors... The flywheel up grade did away with some kind of Rubber/synthetic bushing balancer that tended to get destroyed by the torque...That would be a dual mass flywheel that went away for a better piece. :)
I did the same thing on my former 97 PSD when it blew apart on me.
Post by: addicted on July 02, 2011, 09:42:42 AM
straight six has something like 200 less moving parts in it. keep it simple stupid. tried and tested.
Post by: KimberRich on July 14, 2011, 03:24:12 PM
How on earth is Ford rated so high? The haven't made a decent diesel since the 7.3. Both the 6.0 and 6.4 are pure disaster money pits. Look on the road and Dodge is out selling everyone by miles. I have owned both dodges and ford diesels, and have concluded at the price of buying diesel and oil changes, and the fact that they cost a lot more to purchase, its no longer cost effective to own one for me.
I agree that the 7.3 was the last good Ford diesel. I have a 6.0 and it's an absolute piece of junk. I love the truck around it but the motor is garbage. But I'm pretty sure Ford still out sells Dodge in the truck department? Aren't they like the #1 selling truck 30 years running? That said.. I'm selling my Ford and buying a Dodge. haha
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 14, 2011, 03:35:31 PM
K.I.S.S
straight six has something like 200 less moving parts in it. keep it simple stupid. tried and tested.
Will your 6 ride my 3100 pound camper and pull my 5000 pound boat effectively? :chuckle:
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on July 14, 2011, 06:35:23 PM
Post by: Special T on July 15, 2011, 09:19:48 AM
Post by: jim-b on July 21, 2011, 06:28:34 PM
Mods are ok, and will increase mielage some, but gears make the mielage.
Post by: twistiron on July 21, 2011, 07:51:03 PM
-easest to make crazy power cummins
-best outta the box work truck powerstroke
-fastest duramax
-easiest to work on cummins
-most reliable tie cummins and duramax (fords had way to many fuel, electronic and head gasket issues)
-best tranny allison ( who ever said that a dodge tranny can hang knows somthing i dont, my father is on his 5th tranny in a total of about 600000 miles on 3 cummins 95-99-04 we had and auto in the ford that STB at 72000 my allison has 130000 with no issues.
- most comfortable duramax
i could go on all day but we all know that any of the 3 could make a good truck just outline your true needs and buy what fits best, last months issue of diesel tech had a great write up on brand loyalty killing customers, basically it depends what year you buy your truck as to if your getting the best rig at the time. i would not ever buy an 03-04 6.0 for fear of the never ending headgasket and turbofailure. but i did buy a 02 duramax knowing i would have to do the injectors, i just had the dealer adjust the asking price when they found out it was outta warrenty. i have had great luck with my chevy and would buy another in a "heartbeat".
PS fellow duramax owners, if you are lucky enough to have the lb7 power plant 01-04 and it is within the 7 years since date of sale/ 200000 miles go have the dealer check you balance rates and get your injectors done before warrenty is up. And any owners that missed it and have bad injectors let me know i have done a few of them now and would not have a problem helping you out, will save you about 2000 in labor.
for the tacoma guy my dad drives one of thoes for his dd and toy and still swears the day the tundra comes out with its 8.1L HINO DIESEL he will buy one.
Post by: 6x6in6 on July 21, 2011, 09:54:26 PM
After reading ALL of the posts on diesels, and the complaints about mileage, I had to join in. I've driving FORD diesel since 1986, and can't find room in my driveway for a Chevy or Dodge. Although, the Dodge is second, and Chevy pulling in last (as usual), what most of you have said about mielage is directly related to differential gear ratios. The Lower the number the better the mileage. My 01 7.3 4wd supercab has 3.73 gears. I generally get hiway mielage of 18-27, depending in the right foot position. milelage started 22mpg on I-5, and improved some what as as the engine broke in. Since it hit the 20,000 mile mark, NO babying. It smokes tires really well, and no they aren't hi-way tread. We get lots of snow and ice in the winter. It is my daily driver, and I make quite a few trips to Vancouver. Round trip 950 miles. I drive it hard, but treat the maintaince with respect. Stock was ok, but it's more fun now.I think you might quite possible be the only person that has ever laid a claim out there for getting up to 27mpg out of a 7.3 PSD. Sorry, you could have 3.55's under it and it still ain't gonna happen.
Mods are ok, and will increase mielage some, but gears make the mielage.
Post by: high country on August 05, 2011, 02:17:21 PM
I have had several powerstrokes as that is what my company would fleet purchase for me. nice enough truck, and took the weight well, but rode like crap, steered like a dozer and was about 200hp light for my taste. I used to spend a lot of time in the shop for stupid electrical issues with it too. I never in my life broke 20 mpg with mine. my dodge would almost every tank, my chevy will on road trips, mt ford would get me happy if it was over 17.....and I was not buying the fuel!
Post by: twistiron on August 08, 2011, 04:53:30 PM
I bought my dmax on a whim because it was 18k below book, I figured I would turn it. I bought it and after driving it for a couple days I put a for sale sign in the dodge. I loved my dodge, I had a few troubles, but nothing too bad.....but better ride, brakes, transmission, interior and bigger cab was a no brainer. I used to be the single biggest trash talker of the duramaxi too.
I have had several powerstrokes as that is what my company would fleet purchase for me. nice enough truck, and took the weight well, but rode like crap, steered like a dozer and was about 200hp light for my taste. I used to spend a lot of time in the shop for stupid electrical issues with it too. I never in my life broke 20 mpg with mine. my dodge would almost every tank, my chevy will on road trips, mt ford would get me happy if it was over 17.....and I was not buying the fuel!
your a wise man! what year is your dmax? let me know if you ever need work done on it? is it stock!
Post by: high country on August 08, 2011, 09:02:11 PM
I bought my dmax on a whim because it was 18k below book, I figured I would turn it. I bought it and after driving it for a couple days I put a for sale sign in the dodge. I loved my dodge, I had a few troubles, but nothing too bad.....but better ride, brakes, transmission, interior and bigger cab was a no brainer. I used to be the single biggest trash talker of the duramaxi too.
I have had several powerstrokes as that is what my company would fleet purchase for me. nice enough truck, and took the weight well, but rode like crap, steered like a dozer and was about 200hp light for my taste. I used to spend a lot of time in the shop for stupid electrical issues with it too. I never in my life broke 20 mpg with mine. my dodge would almost every tank, my chevy will on road trips, mt ford would get me happy if it was over 17.....and I was not buying the fuel!
your a wise man! what year is your dmax? let me know if you ever need work done on it? is it stock!
It is pretty much a stock 05' with an intake and a tuner. I have efi live coming.
Post by: twistiron on August 09, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 09, 2011, 05:02:59 PM
K.I.S.S
straight six has something like 200 less moving parts in it. keep it simple stupid. tried and tested.
Will your 6 ride my 3100 pound camper and pull my 5000 pound boat effectively? :chuckle:
Yes it will.
Post by: Special T on August 10, 2011, 09:29:01 AM
Post by: Skillet on August 10, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
I know a guy that hauls over the pass with a gross of 40-50k lbs with his stock 1 ton 4wd dodge... they make plenty of power. :twocents:
Getting up tp the pass is one thing - stopping on the way down the other side is another entirely! What kind of braking system does he have on that outfit??
Is there anyway that he's not going to jail if he crosses the scale in Easton? :chuckle:
Post by: Special T on August 10, 2011, 09:36:08 AM
Doing anything is illegal in this state! they change the rules on ya all the time and don't bother to tell you about it!
Post by: twistiron on August 10, 2011, 02:47:25 PM
Post by: Special T on August 10, 2011, 03:04:11 PM
Post by: twistiron on August 10, 2011, 03:23:27 PM
Post by: C-Money on August 10, 2011, 03:25:49 PM
Post by: Special T on August 10, 2011, 04:24:18 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on August 10, 2011, 04:39:53 PM
K.I.S.S
straight six has something like 200 less moving parts in it. keep it simple stupid. tried and tested.
Will your 6 ride my 3100 pound camper and pull my 5000 pound boat effectively? :chuckle:
Yes it will.
I coulda swore he was talking about his Jeep. Lol.
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 10, 2011, 04:58:51 PM
... I have the 6 speed stick and i believe it is made by alision... i thinks...No sir.
Until mid/late production year 2005, the 6 speed was manufactured by New Venture hence the NV5600 model for the transmission. Same company who did the 5 speeds since 1994. From mid 2005 to present, the transmission is manufactured by Getrag hence the G56 model.
The majority of the 2005's on the road have the 5600.
If reverse is away and up, next to 5th, it's a NV5600.
If reverse is toward you and down, next to 2nd, it's a G56.
Post by: addicted on August 10, 2011, 06:51:42 PM
K.I.S.S
straight six has something like 200 less moving parts in it. keep it simple stupid. tried and tested.
Will your 6 ride my 3100 pound camper and pull my 5000 pound boat effectively? :chuckle:
Yes it will.
I coulda swore he was talking about his Jeep. Lol.
negative,
i would like to put a diesel in my jeep though. :drool:
Post by: Special T on August 11, 2011, 10:10:30 PM
Post by: Rick on August 13, 2011, 09:23:24 PM
... I have the 6 speed stick and i believe it is made by alision... i thinks...No sir.
Until mid/late production year 2005, the 6 speed was manufactured by New Venture hence the NV5600 model for the transmission. Same company who did the 5 speeds since 1994. From mid 2005 to present, the transmission is manufactured by Getrag hence the G56 model.
The majority of the 2005's on the road have the 5600.
If reverse is away and up, next to 5th, it's a NV5600.
If reverse is toward you and down, next to 2nd, it's a G56.
The G56 isn't made by Getrag. The G56 in the Rams is a Mercedes transmission. Used in many of their trucks in Europe.
Post by: 7mag. on August 13, 2011, 10:54:24 PM
... I have the 6 speed stick and i believe it is made by alision... i thinks...No sir.
Until mid/late production year 2005, the 6 speed was manufactured by New Venture hence the NV5600 model for the transmission. Same company who did the 5 speeds since 1994. From mid 2005 to present, the transmission is manufactured by Getrag hence the G56 model.
The majority of the 2005's on the road have the 5600.
If reverse is away and up, next to 5th, it's a NV5600.
If reverse is toward you and down, next to 2nd, it's a G56.
The G56 isn't made by Getrag. The G56 in the Rams is a Mercedes transmission. Used in many of their trucks in Europe.
I believe the Mercedes transmission is the 45FRE, a 4 speed automatic. That's what I have in my '04 Hemi. I wasn't aware that the 6 speed manual is made by Mercedes. :dunno:
From what I understand, the Mercedes trans (45FRE) is only behind the Hemi (starting in '04) and in the Viper. The auto trans behind the Cummins is, I believe, a 48RE (starting in '04).
Post by: twistiron on August 14, 2011, 12:50:36 AM
6x6x6 rev is away from me... i was wrong on the detail but you prove my point that dodge does not make any of the import and drive train parts in my 1 ton... I am Very surprised that Dodge has not taken the in line 5 from its sprint vans and put it in its dakotas OR half tons.. My folks have a mini winni base off the sprint van that gets 18mpg and 14 while towing their PT cruizer... Could you imagine a $wd dakota that got 35mpg? it would sell like hotcakes! I'd strongly look at one and i'm not much of a dodge fan. :twocents:anyone who has ever had or worked on a dakota knows their front ends can barly handle a light little gas motor never mine the heavier diesel. look up the ford ranger diesel and toyota hilux diesel they are sold in europe and other countries great little trucks but cannot pass emissions for the states. its is such a scam.
Post by: Rick on August 14, 2011, 06:46:20 AM
the mercedes trans is not the g56 , that is a gertrag trans. mercedes does manufature a few of the autos but not the six's.
Dude you're wrong. The G56 is NOT a Getrag. Its a Mercedes. Its the same 6spd manual that Mercedes uses in their trucks up to like 40,000lb GVWR. The transmission itself is very stout. The dual mass flywheel that Dodge uses to keep the trans quiet is a POS.
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 14, 2011, 08:01:32 AM
The G56 came from Mercedes.
Post by: twistiron on August 15, 2011, 01:17:23 AM
Uh, yeah, Rick is correct. My bad.
The G56 came from Mercedes.
sorry about that i got confused with the dakota 6 speed which is manufactured by gertrag thanks for pointing it out. :sry:
Post by: addicted on August 15, 2011, 01:30:51 AM
the mercedes trans is not the g56 , that is a gertrag trans. mercedes does manufature a few of the autos but not the six's.6x6x6 rev is away from me... i was wrong on the detail but you prove my point that dodge does not make any of the import and drive train parts in my 1 ton... I am Very surprised that Dodge has not taken the in line 5 from its sprint vans and put it in its dakotas OR half tons.. My folks have a mini winni base off the sprint van that gets 18mpg and 14 while towing their PT cruizer... Could you imagine a $wd dakota that got 35mpg? it would sell like hotcakes! I'd strongly look at one and i'm not much of a dodge fan. :twocents:anyone who has ever had or worked on a dakota knows their front ends can barly handle a light little gas motor never mine the heavier diesel. look up the ford ranger diesel and toyota hilux diesel they are sold in europe and other countries great little trucks but cannot pass emissions for the states. its is such a scam.
i see these little diesel's all the time. I would take one back to the states in a heartbeat if i could do it for a reasonable price.
Post by: Miles on August 15, 2011, 02:58:20 AM
i see these little diesel's all the time. I would take one back to the states in a heartbeat if i could do it for a reasonable price.
Going back to the states...I thought you were retiring over here and opening up a schnitzel haus?
Post by: firefighter4607 on August 15, 2011, 02:59:20 AM
First off I will have to say that I am a GM lover. I like everything GM has done to their pickups. I mean how can you beat an Allison Trans... GM has had the Duramax/Allison combo for 10 years and they have created a great marriage. I will be honest I always have agreed with C_Money... You cannot beat a Cummins. If/when Allison and Cummins come together it will be unstopable in the Powertrain department. I don't like anything built around the Cummins thou. Cummins I think are holding back performance wise because the transmissions can't hold up. That is why GM is always out performing Dodge. As far as Ford, they make nice interior and gas engine but lack everything else. The 2011 is starting to give GM a run for their money but aren't quite there yet.
I don't know if many of you are aware of a site called Pickuptrucks.com but the last 2 years they have had a HD Shootout. With Ford, Dodge, and GM. The last 2 years GM products took home the prize. It is good reading and very intersting because Ford did almost beat GM this year in parts like 40-0 breaking Ford won hands down. This year they called it The Heavy-Duty Hurt Locker . It's a 2,200-mile, four-state slog towing trailers that weigh almost 10 tons each and push each truck's gross combined weight to more than 90 percent of their gross combined weight rating.
Here is a link http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2011/08/2011-heavy-duty-hurt-locker-introduction.html (http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2011/08/2011-heavy-duty-hurt-locker-introduction.html)
As I said a great read, Ford did well, Dodge kind of lagged but they were non bias and did a very good test.
So my rant is over Please read the report before you start bashing the people who did the tests. If you want to bash on my opinion then that's fine. I have thick skin. :IBCOOL:
Post by: Special T on August 15, 2011, 09:52:39 AM
On a side note i heard that Suzuki has plans to bring thier deisel samuri that is sold overseas here to the usa... I would buy one in a hart beat... BTW its the solid axle version...
Post by: addicted on August 19, 2011, 05:39:30 AM
On a side note i heard that Suzuki has plans to bring thier deisel samuri that is sold overseas here to the usa... I would buy one in a hart beat... BTW its the solid axle version...
those are all over the hunting community here.
Post by: Special T on August 19, 2011, 09:27:48 AM
Post by: addicted on August 19, 2011, 09:01:00 PM
So the choice is harder for you addicted.... Buy a Hilux OR a Samuri? and then bring the toy home with you. ;)
I wouldnt buy a samarai. barely enough room for the dogs and the wife, let alone gear. camping trip or hunting trip would be hell in that thing.
Post by: Special T on August 20, 2011, 09:19:36 AM
Post by: addicted on August 21, 2011, 04:03:16 AM
So the question might be how do we go about buying one of those diesel's to stuff in our own zuke or yoda?
Post by: Nilehunter on August 23, 2011, 09:00:53 PM
DURAMAX!!!!!
Sounds like a Tampon brand :chuckle:
:chuckle:
Post by: Chadrick60 on August 24, 2011, 04:03:28 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on August 24, 2011, 04:32:43 PM
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Post by: twistiron on August 24, 2011, 07:07:51 PM
Post by: Special T on August 24, 2011, 07:50:00 PM
Post by: firefighter4607 on August 25, 2011, 02:37:54 PM
currently nissan is testing a 4 cyl cummins in their titan! thats going to revolutionize the half ton market! i gets 28mpg at 250 hp and 400+ ftlb. i wish chevy would produce the 4.5l duramax 6 cyl in the 1500!!!
They have the engine and have tested it since 2007 or 2008 it is just that they aren't ready to release it yet. They say the market isn't ready for it. I think once Dodge, Toyota, Ford and Nissian release their diesels Chevy will release the baby Duramax. And it is a V-8 not a 6 cyl. It is about the size of the 6.2 L V-8 that they offer in the TrailerMax package. So it should bolt right in. Here is a link to a spied truck it has 6 lugs instead of the 1/2 5 lug. Here is the link http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-silverado-diesel.html (http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-silverado-diesel.html) :drool: :drool: :drool: I can't wait til the release.
Post by: twistiron on August 25, 2011, 06:53:45 PM
Post by: KenPCPilot on August 26, 2011, 06:01:23 AM
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 26, 2011, 08:42:47 AM
Plug your heater in. Run it through a good quality timer, one that can handle what I think is 1600w that the heaters use. Could be more, check. Set the timer up to kick off 3+- hours before you leave in the morning a little longer if it gets really cold. I even run mine through a good quality thermal cube after the timer that kicks on around 35* and kicks off at 45* so I'm not greasing the pocket of Puget Sound Energy.
Post by: twistiron on August 26, 2011, 10:06:01 AM
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 26, 2011, 10:58:55 AM
If you prefer to keep your money relatively local vs going with TS Performance, there are quite a few local and relatively local very knowledgeable distributors and installers out there too.
Dynomite in Monroe.
DKDiesel in Bellingham.
DJ's Diesel in Moses Lake - A very smart PSD guy!!!
Alligator Performance in Post Falls, ID.
Just to name a few.
If only EFI Live for PSD's was available.
Post by: Special T on August 26, 2011, 12:30:24 PM
Post by: allboy on September 26, 2011, 08:14:06 PM
Hard to beat the older Ford 7.3L IDI's
Post by: aer212 on October 02, 2011, 04:31:09 PM
does anyone have or have had a cummins with the 53 block, and did it crack?
My brother has one, he has a new block on the way that we are going to put in this winter. It had about 130,000 miles.
Post by: aer212 on October 02, 2011, 04:32:27 PM
does anyone have or have had a cummins with the 53 block, and did it crack?You got a cracked one or know of someone who does?
If so, here's the fix.
http://www.locknstitch.com/cummins_5_9_block.htm (http://www.locknstitch.com/cummins_5_9_block.htm)
Many in the drag racing and sled pulling world do this to their 53's before they let go.
This is only a temporary fix at best. It won't last long.
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on October 02, 2011, 05:23:22 PM
Post by: bearpaw on October 10, 2011, 08:28:41 AM
I am pretty happy with it, but I know guys with those older Cummins and a manual tranny who are getting over 20 mpg, you just can't argue with that kind of mileage. So I voted cummins for the mileage....
Post by: sixty4nhalf on October 10, 2011, 08:39:26 AM
Post by: bearpaw on October 10, 2011, 08:49:09 AM
I've got a `03 Dodge 2500, and added the SmartyJr. Gains up to 100 extra HP and fuel economy went up 4+ mpg. (Smarty is only available for the Cummins, sorry Power stroke and Duramax guys) This is a plug and play re-programmer. I am wanting to upgrade to their SmartyS-06 PoD, now that I have my tranny re-built to withstand all the extra torque and HP (an additional 170HP). :tup:
What's your mileage sixty4nhalf?
Post by: Special T on October 10, 2011, 09:47:07 AM
Post by: sisu on October 10, 2011, 09:48:56 AM
Post by: Special T on October 10, 2011, 09:52:23 AM
Post by: sixty4nhalf on October 10, 2011, 11:35:09 AM
I've got a `03 Dodge 2500, and added the SmartyJr. Gains up to 100 extra HP and fuel economy went up 4+ mpg. (Smarty is only available for the Cummins, sorry Power stroke and Duramax guys) This is a plug and play re-programmer. I am wanting to upgrade to their SmartyS-06 PoD, now that I have my tranny re-built to withstand all the extra torque and HP (an additional 170HP). :tup:
What's your mileage sixty4nhalf?
I drove to San Diego (not towing) and I kept it at the speed limit and I was pulling an average of 24.8 mpg, I only filled up 2 times (so 3 tanks of fuel (I believe). Now around town I am only gettin about 18.6 mpg, as long as I keep my foot out of it. :chuckle:
Post by: firefighter4607 on October 10, 2011, 02:04:00 PM
I have a 03 Ford Powerstroker.... :tup:
I am pretty happy with it, but I know guys with those older Cummins and a manual tranny who are getting over 20 mpg, you just can't argue with that kind of mileage. So I voted cummins for the mileage....
Bearpaw do you know if you have the 6.0L or the 7.3L in your rig. I would guess you have the 7.3 since you have been happy with it.
Post by: Centaur on October 10, 2011, 06:33:40 PM
Ford screwed up by getting rid of the 7.3. Loved that motor for years!!! But my duramax now I can't complain about anything but fuel mileage. 13 mpg city and 15 hwy. Not good!
Post by: WARHORSE on October 10, 2011, 06:41:48 PM
Post by: Dhoey07 on October 10, 2011, 09:36:31 PM
IMO..... cummins motor, the interior and ride of the chevy and the looks of a ford.
Ford screwed up by getting rid of the 7.3. Loved that motor for years!!! But my duramax now I can't complain about anything but fuel mileage. 13 mpg city and 15 hwy. Not good!
Something must be wrong with your truck if you only get 13/15 :yike:
My is a 06 crew cab, lifted and running 35's and I average 16.5. All highway I get 19.
Post by: sixty4nhalf on October 11, 2011, 08:56:54 AM
Sixtynhalf Did you do the lift pump upgrade and put it in the tank? On the 03 many had an exterior lift pump that when it goes out puts strain on your injector pump and normally causes it to fail. That normally happens on a long drive where the lift pump provides enough initial pressure to start then fails. The injector pump is still able to draw fuel from the tank however it creates lots of stress on the pump... Most aftermarket pumps are not in the tank... Not sure why.... Many lift pumps fail from dry suction when prime is lost for whatever reason. I put a factory in tank pump kit in that dropps in. the in tanks don't lose prime and always stay lubed. it is also the design that they use int the 04-06? lift pumps are cheep $200. common rail injection pumps are not $2-3k When my lift pump whent out i lucked out it was a short trip, 5 miles, and it failed during that trip. Normally i run my truck for 200+ miles without shutting it off...
I have not done the lift pump upgrade, I sure will keep that in mind though. Thanks! :tup:
Post by: 6x6in6 on October 11, 2011, 02:32:31 PM
http://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/p-5277-gdp-fuel-boss-mechanical-belt-driven-lift-pump-system-985-07-59l-dodge-cummins.aspx (http://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/p-5277-gdp-fuel-boss-mechanical-belt-driven-lift-pump-system-985-07-59l-dodge-cummins.aspx)Sixtynhalf Did you do the lift pump upgrade and put it in the tank? On the 03 many had an exterior lift pump that when it goes out puts strain on your injector pump and normally causes it to fail. That normally happens on a long drive where the lift pump provides enough initial pressure to start then fails. The injector pump is still able to draw fuel from the tank however it creates lots of stress on the pump... Most aftermarket pumps are not in the tank... Not sure why.... Many lift pumps fail from dry suction when prime is lost for whatever reason. I put a factory in tank pump kit in that dropps in. the in tanks don't lose prime and always stay lubed. it is also the design that they use int the 04-06? lift pumps are cheep $200. common rail injection pumps are not $2-3k When my lift pump whent out i lucked out it was a short trip, 5 miles, and it failed during that trip. Normally i run my truck for 200+ miles without shutting it off...
I have not done the lift pump upgrade, I sure will keep that in mind though. Thanks! :tup:
One of the nicest things about the mechanical LP is if it should happen die, you still have your standard lift pump to get you home.
Most aftermarket electric LP's replace the standard lift pump. It croaks, your dead in the water.
Post by: Dhoey07 on October 11, 2011, 06:24:48 PM
So what's the story on getting such good gas mileage out of your diesels?
Just lie like everyone else :chuckle:
Post by: westsideoutdoorsman on October 12, 2011, 01:02:26 AM
Post by: Special T on October 12, 2011, 09:01:38 PM
These are the steel wheels i'd like to get for my duallie I'd like to run the 245/70R19.5 which is about 1 in bigger in OD adding about 3% in circumference. The sweet spot on my truck is at 60mph. I would love to either go a little faster at the same rpm or get a little better MPG at 60. No the mention the tires wear like iron, and you can cap them in any truck tire design.... I've had some real mud flingers on my 2wd and would love to get and other 4... Wheels run about $260 ea :'(
Post by: aer212 on October 14, 2011, 09:56:50 PM
Sixtynhalf Did you do the lift pump upgrade and put it in the tank? On the 03 many had an exterior lift pump that when it goes out puts strain on your injector pump and normally causes it to fail. That normally happens on a long drive where the lift pump provides enough initial pressure to start then fails. The injector pump is still able to draw fuel from the tank however it creates lots of stress on the pump... Most aftermarket pumps are not in the tank... Not sure why.... Many lift pumps fail from dry suction when prime is lost for whatever reason. I put a factory in tank pump kit in that dropps in. the in tanks don't lose prime and always stay lubed. it is also the design that they use int the 04-06? lift pumps are cheep $200. common rail injection pumps are not $2-3k When my lift pump whent out i lucked out it was a short trip, 5 miles, and it failed during that trip. Normally i run my truck for 200+ miles without shutting it off...
Common rail injection pumps are only $2-3k if you get them from the dodge dealer. Otherwise you can buy a built one from a bunch of different shops for starting at around $800 all the way up to $3000 for a extremely built one.
Post by: Greg Mullins on November 24, 2011, 09:44:20 AM
Post by: ANDERWAGON on November 24, 2011, 09:59:36 AM
Had a a couple Powerstrokes in the past with many glow plug/ relay, cams sensor and warped brake issues.
Got 106K on my Dodge now with out the issues and better mileage. Had to do a little more work to match the HP but it was wort h it.
Post by: Woodchuck on April 09, 2012, 09:43:21 AM
Post by: et1702 on April 09, 2012, 10:03:18 AM
does anyone have or have had a cummins with the 53 block, and did it crack?
My brother has one, he has a new block on the way that we are going to put in this winter. It had about 130,000 miles.
Mine in my 2001 Dodge cracked at about 112,000mi. No warranty :'(
Post by: JLS on April 09, 2012, 10:14:36 AM
does anyone have or have had a cummins with the 53 block, and did it crack?
My brother has one, he has a new block on the way that we are going to put in this winter. It had about 130,000 miles.
Mine in my 2001 Dodge cracked at about 112,000mi. No warranty :'(
I had a 99 with a 53 block. Ran the snot out of it for 150k miles. I wrecked it last winter and insurance totalled it, but I still had the original clutch, tranny, and 53 block with a lot of heavy towing on the truck.
Post by: PolarBear on April 09, 2012, 10:19:35 AM
Post by: Special T on April 09, 2012, 10:28:32 AM
I think i'd had even read about a yanmar, so don't laugh too loud PolarBear!
Post by: JohnVH on April 09, 2012, 10:45:15 AM
Post by: Huntboy on April 09, 2012, 10:47:09 AM
Post by: PolarBear on April 09, 2012, 12:18:03 PM
Actually in the mid west there is a big diesel conversion movement going on. The cummins in line 4 used in backhoes and other equipt can bolt right up to the dodge pickup trannies. the bell housing is the same for the in line 6 and 4...I have twin Yanmars in my boat and they are AWESOME! I know guys with Yanmar tractors wo love them as well.
I think i'd had even read about a yanmar, so don't laugh too loud PolarBear!
Post by: JohnVH on April 09, 2012, 12:19:22 PM
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Post by: Special T on April 09, 2012, 09:45:56 PM
Post by: huntnphool on April 09, 2012, 09:52:55 PM
Post by: PolarBear on April 09, 2012, 11:51:11 PM
Love mine!
Post by: Special T on April 10, 2012, 09:25:40 AM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on April 13, 2012, 01:52:36 PM
My "little" brother was a Ford Mech, and he says the 7.3 was the best engine ford has ever produced, and there was a reason why it was in some International trucks. (Mostly Uhauls)
Maybe because the 7.3, 6.0, 6.4 are actually International engines?
-Steve
Post by: Special T on April 13, 2012, 02:01:53 PM
The best motor dodge has EVER had in its vehicles is the Cummings and its not made by them either.
Post by: firefighter4607 on April 13, 2012, 03:04:17 PM
My "little" brother was a Ford Mech, and he says the 7.3 was the best engine ford has ever produced, and there was a reason why it was in some International trucks. (Mostly Uhauls)
Maybe because the 7.3, 6.0, 6.4 are actually International engines?
-Steve
It was my understanding that the 6.0 and the 6.4 were made all by Ford. I thought that is why International quit selling their engines to Ford because Ford kept on adding parts and stuff to it that International didn't argee to which casued the engines to have sooooo many problems.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on April 17, 2012, 12:37:24 PM
As stated, the weak link behind the 7.3 was the 'automatic transmission' behind them. I believe that still holds true, for Ford and Dodge. (and I'm not a big Alison trany fan either) I have been very happy with my ZF 6spd and know others that are also happy with their standard transmissions behind their diesel engines. (800 pounds of torque at the fly wheel 'if not treated delicately', trying to launch an 7-8,000 pound 4x4 will break just about anything though.)
-Steve
Post by: Special T on April 17, 2012, 01:02:16 PM
Post by: Caseyd on April 17, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
The weak link for most 7.3's was the auto tranny behind them. :twocents:
Gramps has a 7.3 and they blew the tranny in under 5k miles. Ford had the dealership crate up the tranny and ship it to the factory for R&D.
They have 4 of them on the ranch and all under 50k miles :yike:
Post by: Caseyd on April 17, 2012, 05:12:05 PM
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on April 18, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
Post by: Special T on April 18, 2012, 11:10:33 AM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on April 19, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
-Steve
Post by: follow maggie on April 19, 2012, 09:14:55 PM
Post by: Special T on April 19, 2012, 10:02:23 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on April 19, 2012, 10:38:30 PM
-Steve
Post by: Special T on April 19, 2012, 10:56:25 PM
Post by: gramps on April 20, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
Thanks
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 25, 2012, 09:41:35 PM
When are the pulls at Lynden??http://www.psatma.com/page04.html
Thanks
Post by: Mathews Heli m on May 16, 2012, 07:38:59 PM
Quit strokin' and start Cummings!haha dodge power! :IBCOOL: :yeah:
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Post by: Chesapeake on May 31, 2012, 12:10:51 AM
Or maybe bigger injectors, beefed up injection pump, and the bigger turbo from the common rail motor on a 12 valve would be fine.
The common rail injection engines have much more power than the 12 valves and you dont have to shut them down in the drive through.
My auto has been fine since the rebuild at 125k. Now at 270k. Had them toss in a beefed up torque converter and a few other upgrades to help it run cooler. Good to go since.
I've owned Ford and Chevy. Probably won't do that again.
5.9 was the best mix of power and economy. It hasn't been bested yet, but they keep trying.
Post by: 6x6in6 on May 31, 2012, 11:23:17 PM
Sure, the CR turbo is capable of flowing more air through the inducer but it gets plugged up on the exducer end with the 9cm. It's an emission thing for the CR's. CR's are capable at running higher sustained exhaust temperatures due to piston design and head flow design than 12 valves are therefore plugging the exducer down to 9cm gives a better burn on the fuel (that emission thing).
You restrict that airflow on the backside, you hold heat, you melt pistons not to mention you will run out of the efficiency map of the turbo and you wind up with crazy drive pressure issues when you want the power the most.
12 valve heads are prone to cracking and warping when they are subjected to lots of heat. A 9cm exhaust housing is only going to speed up the inevitable. Sure, you can port the head and port the exhaust manifold to get the heat out faster but it's still restricted. Think golf ball and garden hose. Porting works well with larger turbo's and twins.
You wouldn't want your pistons looking like this would you? :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on June 02, 2012, 09:35:40 PM
+50 DDP stage 1 injectors, #10 plate, 3k GSK, 16.5 degree advanced timing
got the plate slid back for a pretty mild tune, any further forward and I get into the pyro pretty deep.
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Post by: RG on September 16, 2012, 06:40:02 AM
Okay guys I am thoroughly confused after reading this thread. I would like to get a full size camper and haul a 22' boat, but there is no way the 1/2 ton Tundra will do it. Been looking at diesels and was thinking Dodge, but after some of the comments I have to wonder about Chevy with the Allison. This truck would not be a daily driver and I probably wouldn't do many mods to it. What kind of mileage are you guys with the Duramax and Allison getting?
Sportfury, whatever brand you get I recommend that you consider a 3500 dually. I've had two 2500's and one dually. For camper hauling it's a lot more stable to have the extra suspension, bigger brakes and wider wheelbase. They feel way better on the road, especially in an eastern Washington cross wind. The dually will be a little more expensive to own over the long haul because you have 6 tires, bigger brakes, etc., and more weight which uses a little more fuel but the difference was worth it to me, especially since you are going to have a big load. You said you didn't plan to use it much so the extra cost may not be that big of a factor for you either. My trucks have all been Dodge Cummins. 20-22 mpg empty for the 2500 and 17-18 for the 3500. Both 2500's were manual transmissions the 3500 was an automatic. Any of the diesels out there has more than enough power to haul your proposed load for you.
Post by: Dhoey07 on September 16, 2012, 07:59:05 AM
Okay guys I am thoroughly confused after reading this thread. I would like to get a full size camper and haul a 22' boat, but there is no way the 1/2 ton Tundra will do it. Been looking at diesels and was thinking Dodge, but after some of the comments I have to wonder about Chevy with the Allison. This truck would not be a daily driver and I probably wouldn't do many mods to it. What kind of mileage are you guys with the Duramax and Allison getting?
The cummins will probably get you an extra 2 mpg, but the chevy/gmc will ride better :twocents:
Post by: aer212 on September 16, 2012, 02:47:48 PM
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Post by: firefighter4607 on September 21, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
What is a dpf? Does taking it off affect emissions? Do diesels have to go through emissions?DPF= Diesel Particle Filter
Thanks to the EPA they have been required on all diesel for a couple years now. Not sure about the emissions laws around the west side but pretty sure there are no emissions on the east side.