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Community => Photo & Video => Topic started by: duckmen1 on March 22, 2011, 05:21:25 PM
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what does everyone prefer to use on blacktails other than apples.
i tried corn with little success and camere deer and swamp donkey didn't work well either and was very expensive for hardly anything.
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I cant get them to eat anything but tried it all no luck with any of it
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I've been told that Deer-Cain works, but am skeptical since all the other things I've tried haven't been working.
Tried: Corn--they aren't touching it; Deer chow blocks (apple flavored)--they aren't touching that either; and there was a molasses thing they didn't want either.
The only things I've found them to like are apples and mineral blocks.
I've heard they like bananas and alfalfa. I'll probably give the alfalfa a try. I figure I can stack a mineral block and apples on top of it.
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I have heard that deer are not partial alfalfa as it can upset their stomachs unless they have been eating it all along.
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Roses
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they dont seem to be partial to carrots either.
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try wet cob, its a crushed corn and molasses mix. guy I know on whidby island has twenty to thirty deer in his backyard every night cause he feeds them every day.
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Our deer really like the All Stock from Del's, cheap too and high in protein. Other feed stores have their equivalent of this as well. In the fall the deer by my place will also eat pumpkins like crazy.
For some natural bait, find an alder tree and whack some leafed out branches off, they love that! Our neighbor recently cut down a couple of cedars and they even browsed down the cedar fronds.
Oh yeah, and anything in a pot.... :bash:
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I'm surprised that baiting is legal for deer and elk, but it is. If I were going to do it, I would use a salt lick for either and keep it up. It doesn't seem like fair chase to me, though. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
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I think to each their own when done legally. I've been putting apples out and plan to keep it up. If I shoot a deer (archery) over my apples then I will be ok with it. For me the work put in to hike in the feed, keep it up, justifies me taking an animal just fine. However, if not per your opinion, I'm cool with that as well.
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I'm surprised that baiting is legal for deer and elk, but it is. If I were going to do it, I would use a salt lick for either and keep it up. It doesn't seem like fair chase to me, though. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
I agree, I cant believe people would stoop to such a level as to use bait to attract an animal just to kill it, eat it, get it mounted and stare at it daily on their office wall! :chuckle:
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Even worse when folks make awesome locally filmed huting dvds, dupe me into buying them, and then watching them over and over and over and over and over! The nerve! People like this probably let their girlfriend shoot a pink bow!
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Even worse when folks make awesome locally filmed huting dvds, dupe me into buying them, and then watching them over and over and over and over and over! The nerve! People like this probably let their girlfriend shoot a pink bow!
HAHA.. Of all the wrong doings I have been accused of I agree letting Shannon shoot a pink bow could be the worst :-[. I am working on getting her a real bow, dont worry 8)
Not to Hi-Jack this thread. I tried baiting blacktail once in OR without much success so I am watching this thread closely to see what the trick is.
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Roses
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No kidding!!! I have a love hate relationship with the bucks around my house. I spend all summer doing yard work, planting nice trees only to have some trashy ruttin SOB blacky come destroy it come November. Then not to mention all his girlfriends eating every plant in site. :bash: My wife won't let me bait near the house anymore :'(
MS
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I know out of 4 Cherry trees, 8 apple trees, and 4 pear trees, they wont let the damn pear trees grow, and rub the apple trees.
The birds get the cherries, the deer destroy the pears, but I get a few apples for my kids to eat......
P.S. they eat my Willow trees also.....
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I cant get them to eat anything but tried it all no luck with any of it
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I think that in areas where there is limited browse they are more likely to eat cob and other stuff but in areas like where I live with thousands of acres of blackberries (their preferred food), hazelnuts, Oak trees, hay fields etc, they won't touch anything that is purposely put out except apples or nuts. I have tried absolutely everything to draw them onto my land, not to hunt them but to keep them from being poached by the local tweekers, and nothing works except natural fruits and nuts. Last summer I had a ton of leftover ground, cracked and rolled corn from finishing off a steer. I made a feeder to see if the deer would hit it and put a trail cam on it. They would push the corn and cob off of the tops of the selenium and trace mineral blocks and only eat the blocks but that ended as summer was winding down. I wound up feeding the bunnies, raccoons and birds instead of the deer. Alfalfa works great on whitetails and mulies but I have yet to see a blacktail eat the stuff. Whitetails, you can throw just about anything on the ground and they will eat it. Blackies, especially those with plenty of area to pick from, are pretty damn picky.
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I didn't mean to sound preachy, although I do that quite well. I've got nothing against legal hunting activities and those who practice them. Good luck with the baiting. I hope you bag a big one with a nice rack! (We are still talking about critters, right?)
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I've used Deer cane and Molassis Stump licker The molassis stup licker had lots of elk activity and the deer seemed to like the deer cane. I put the deere cane on a pice of ground under a ceder, realitivley dry. I cleared a 4'circle and then mixed warm water and deere cane and poured into the ground. I did that 3 times with about 2 gallons each time. Saw deer on my bait mostly at night with a camera, and elk during the day Nooksack herd. :bash:
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Like said before apples work the best but if you don't know an orchardist that can get expensive. The only other thing that I have found that they love is acorn rage but it costs ten bucks for a small bag and they eat it all in one day so it doesn't take long for that to put a dent on the pocket book, but they love it.
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tried deer cain, wet cob, corn, cracked corn, swamp donkey, every other bait you can think of wasting money on. Planted Biologic premium perrenial and tecomate monster mix. Apples are it! The wife has shot bucks for the last 3 years in our backyard on the apples. AND for those of you "ethical" hunters, If my wife wants to stay home and watch the kids while I am out hunting and shoot a deer in the backyard, I am ALL for it! If you got a problem with it... you :pee:
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An old timer told me to try soaking corn in beer, he said the deer would get a little drunk and bed down in the open close to the feed station, he got several nice bucks that way. Definitely not fair chase but what the hey!
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AND for those of you "ethical" hunters, If my wife wants to stay home and watch the kids while I am out hunting and shoot a deer in the backyard, I am ALL for it! If you got a problem with it... you :pee:
:rolleyes:
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I want to try apples, but where do you buy them in bulk?
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Chelan/ Wenatchee, by the tote at the orchards or processing plants, so I am told.
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I want to try apples, but where do you buy them in bulk?
There are so many wasted apples in the fall, just drive around until you see a bunch on the ground and ask if you can take them. Otherwise, you can watch for sales and get them fairly cheaply at Fred Meyers ($.75/pound)
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I go to a local farm store and get the cull apples for half price. They are bruised or are oozing 'apple sauce' out of them, but the critters don't care. I also saw a guy selling them by the side of the road for 50 cents a pound in town that I'll go check on soon. For the salt-mineral blocks I go to a farm store.
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This all great information on Black tails. I am going to be putting out different baits to see what works best if any. I have two cams I will be using. With any luck I will get some results. I do know they are creatures of habit and do not start new eating habits at the drop of a hat. It takes time. I will be posting results soon. :rockin:
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A friend of mine uses pears from his uncles orchard. They eat the pears before the apples even. I saw him dump a fresh batch out in his yard and within minutes the deer were stepping out of the brush with their noses in the air.
Couple years ago when we had the hard snows here on the west side, I spread out a bail of alfalfa trying to help the deer and elk through the tuff times, but they literally walked out and around it without ever taking a bite. I threw out apples and they gobbled them up. Had some pictures of a couple does on my trail cam that used the alfalfa for bedding a couple nights, but not one picture of them eating it. Stuff was spendy too the picky jerks.
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I've heard that they can't digest alfalfa very well if they have not been on it for a while. Ours love pears as well, a couple years ago we had an old box of pears and a buck walked up to our front door and buried his head in the box. Someone forgot to close the gate....
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Well I got two cameras set Saturday. One is on a 25# block of sweet lick buck and doe. buried it all but the top like the directions said. The other one is on a gallon of cracked corn soaked in beer for a week. I know which one I would go for. I have the cameras set for 60 second video. I will check them in two weeks...
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I'll be interested to see the results of your beer/corn chow. I've got a bag of sweet cob that may yield similiar results. I also used a pressed block that fell apart in the rain but made a nice little mound that they have been snacking on.
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Well I got two cameras set Saturday. One is on a 25# block of sweet lick buck and doe. buried it all but the top like the directions said. The other one is on a gallon of cracked corn soaked in beer for a week. I know which one I would go for. I have the cameras set for 60 second video. I will check them in two weeks...
And not just any beer I might add "Keystone" is the Blacktail's beer of choice ;)
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Oh great I stole four of my wife's Budweiser's to soak the corn with. :bash: Do I really have to do a study on what beer they prefer? :DOH: This could get expensive. :ACRY:
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I think you should be much more fearfull of stealing your wifes beer. What is wrong with you man? Taking her beer? Sheesh...
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dry cob working great right now
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Dry Cob what is that. Is that what you buy for squirrel feeders? Are you soaking it in anything or just placing it on the ground?
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get i and the feed store, mixture of corn oats and barley i have it in 3 homemade feeders with cameras on them, they are eating the crap out it,we already have 3 different bucks eating it. :IBCOOL:
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What is working at my place right now is knee high pasture grass and clover. Got 6 deer pigging out on it right now and had 11 elk the other night.
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heres what u do, u get the 50# water softening salt bags from the feed store. you find a desired spot with an old rotted stump. in a 3ft circle around the stump(3 ft wide) dump the salt so that you surround the whole thing. try to do this when the weather is going to get nasty because with the natural rain, it lets the salt soak into the soil. if you have to, i guess pack your own water in. you need to get it to soak into the soil tho. do this 1-3 times and by the end of summer, you should have a 2-3ft deep trench that the deer and elk have dug around the stump eating the soil to get the salt out. set ur cam up and post the pics
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get i and the feed store, mixture of corn oats and barley i have it in 3 homemade feeders with cameras on them, they are eating the crap out it,we already have 3 different bucks eating it. :IBCOOL:
How much antler growth are you seeing? Can you post some pictures?
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get i and the feed store, mixture of corn oats and barley i have it in 3 homemade feeders with cameras on them, they are eating the crap out it,we already have 3 different bucks eating it. :IBCOOL:
How much antler growth are you seeing? Can you post some pictures?
I sure would like to see some pics, I have a new cam out and I have a 50lb mineral block and 50lbs of wet cob out. I am going out next week after 2 weeks soaking and can't wait to see some pics of my own. I'll post as I get them.
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Greenhead-killer, you are freaking me out with that Freddy Mercury pic! Are you trying to tell us something? :chuckle:
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Yea that picture is disturbing!! Well there should be some fat deer around.
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Well there should be some fat deer around.
Too bad the meat doesn't get all marbly like a nice fat beef.... :drool:
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Greenhead-killer, you are freaking me out with that Freddy Mercury pic! Are you trying to tell us something? :chuckle:
yeah sorry bout that, still computer illiterate when it comes to pics and that sort of thing. hopefully if i am successfull this year hunting ill be able to figure out how to display them :)
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That is a pretty creepy pic. Who wants a mustache ride?
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Wet cob..... can't keep enough out! That and apples..... the deer here can go through about 50#'s of cob a week... but if apples are out with the cob, they will eat them first.
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Ill try and get some pics posted right now they are just fuzzy nubs but will be checking cameras this weekend heres a pic of one of my gravity feeders its dual sided holds 100lbs of cob the other two our gravity feeders made from 3 inch abs pipe with 45 deg angle cut at the bottom 4 or 6 inch would be better but thats what i had laying around
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I could buy a whole beef if I put out an all-you-can-eat feeder like that.... We just put out a gallon or two a day.
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I only have 50 in it right now plus cob is cheap 10 bucks a 50 lb bag and it less trips i have to make
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You don't have a problem with that hole plugging up?
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Nope i have a lid on it keeps it dry in a down pour drilled a 2 9/16 hole
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I want 1 or 2. I have the bigger ABS pipe also. Actually Charlie has it but I know he won't care if I take some. ;)
Kris
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Someone should start a thread, just on home made feeders. I would like to see MasonCtyHitmans ABS feeders. It would be cool to see what others have come up with also.
Deer won't come within 20' of my home made feeder, might as well have tied a cougar to it.
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I think Hitman should put a few in the classifieds forsale. :dunno:
Kris
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lol
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the pipe ones are really easy to make, 4 to 6 inch pipe is the best size, i only had 3 inch pipe laying around so thats what i used. cut the bottom at a 45 deg angle so you can poke it in the ground a bit but still leaves a hole at the bottom, tie to a tree ad fill, i used coffee cans, the plastic foldgers ones helps to refill each time, here is a pic of one of them
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pears pears pears is all i have to say oh ya and more pears
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The only problem I see is if there is bears in the area then they rip apart anything!!
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this is true thats why i dont put alot of money into anything i put in the woods but sometimes you gotta take risks for the big payoff :tup:
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dry cob working great right now
This. Our deer here in Timberlakes are very domesticated though. Not sure how well it would work out in the middle of nowhere
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How much dry cob do your deer go through in a week?
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alot
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Going out this weekend to set up 4 pipes. one will have dry cob. One will have oats, one will have wheat, and one will have barley. I want them eating the wheat and barley right now but, not sure if they will. Need the trail cam pics to see what they're going to like.
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The deer here seem to like Del's "Allstock", it is relatively cheap and high in protein not just carbohydrates.
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Bowhunter is not much on baiting anything but just my opinion ... thats why I bowhunt is because of the ability of sneaking up on game .. I live to out smart animals ...its called being stealthy and the ultimate predator .....No bait used here ..but if you like it no problem with me neither ...JUST WATCH OUT FOR THE BEARS !! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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with a pic a nic basket
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Oh great I stole four of my wife's Budweiser's to soak the corn with. :bash: Do I really have to do a study on what beer they prefer? :DOH: This could get expensive. :ACRY:
That would be worth the study to find out which beer works the best. I could get my wife involved helping me study which beer would work the best. :brew:
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Heck just drink the good beer yourself and give the deer Animal beer. Once they catch a buzz it tastes like water soaked corn anyhow!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I have some great footage of a nice three point sticking his nose in my cam. Then all of a sudden in walks Mr. 5x5. Black tail. Problem is they are movies and I cant get them to load.