Post by: Ron Howard on March 25, 2011, 08:11:13 PM
Post by: bucklucky on March 25, 2011, 08:12:51 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on March 25, 2011, 08:13:21 PM
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or have great hunting spots
:chuckle:
Welcome to the site!
Post by: jryoung on March 25, 2011, 08:22:28 PM
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I already have 6 sponsors for our videos and I have over 250 shops waiting for our videos to come out!!!
Any more videos besides just the one of you calling on Youtube? What did you demo for your sponsors and shops?
Post by: Ron Howard on March 25, 2011, 08:23:52 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 25, 2011, 09:25:41 PM
Too bad I dont think my hunting style could handle having a camera crew to follow me around....
I am always interested in Washington videos though, so will be interested in how you do.
Post by: Chuethou_b18c5 on March 25, 2011, 11:58:41 PM
Post by: PolarBear on March 26, 2011, 12:03:47 AM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 26, 2011, 09:45:11 AM
Not to criticize "Champion" callers, but what do the Elk think of your calling ?
Seems most of the actual elk I hear are not as good at making "Elk" sounds as most callers.
especially mid September, on the coast...
Post by: ribka on March 26, 2011, 10:19:22 AM
Quoteor have great hunting spots
:chuckle:
Welcome to the site!
Thinking the same :chuckle:
And who says hunting has become commercialized?
Good luck in your business
Post by: fish-on37 on March 26, 2011, 10:26:56 AM
Post by: ribka on March 26, 2011, 10:31:14 AM
Wow, someone comes on here and offers to something great and all you guys do is flip him *censored* and question his calling abilities. :con:
I think guys that come on here and want to advertise their business/ make money should pay like the rest of the Hunt WA sponsors.
I thought that was the idea of sponsors on here. No free advertising for busineses :dunno:
Post by: fish-on37 on March 26, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
Post by: Alan K on March 26, 2011, 10:40:49 AM
I've got 12 points, but I only put in for the rut hunts, so still have to get really lucky to draw. If I do though, you guys might be hearing from me, thanks for the offer!
Post by: seth30 on March 26, 2011, 10:43:26 AM
Post by: PolarBear on March 26, 2011, 10:51:46 AM
Post by: ribka on March 26, 2011, 10:53:51 AM
I think bearmaniac sells and advertises his calls on here and is a sponsor. :dunno: :dunno:
Personally I cannot imagine dragging other guys with me when I am archery hunting elk and deer. I have a diffcult enough time getting close for a shot by myself when bow hunting but I am not a world champion. But for some hunting now is all about the ego
To me, and I am expressing my opinion as this is a hunting forum, I think hunting is becoming too commercialized with the hype, and yelling after shots, silly catch phrases, the I am a "champion this" and "pro that", product endorsement after every kill etc, ect. These guys look like Nascar drivers now hunting with all of the endorsements they are wearing. I will admit though I owe all of my hunting successes to my cough silencer, bone collector mouth wash and shampoo, butt out tool, deer cocaine, uv blocker and scent lok clothing :)
Post by: PolarBear on March 26, 2011, 11:11:54 AM
Post by: fish-on37 on March 26, 2011, 11:12:48 AM
Hey Everyone!!! I need Hunters for this upcoming season!!!...My name is Dustin Howard, I have a production company called Battling bulls productions...I am a World championship elk caller..I took 3rd in the Mens division in the World Championships this year in Reno and am going pro next year!!! My passion is Hunting and calling!!..I Started this production company up because every year we shoot Rosie's in WA and OR and i wanna film it!!!I have a crew of 8 guys..3 of which are world championship elk callers and all being fantastic hunters!!..I am looking for People in Washington who have a lot of points and are trying to draw coveted tags or have great hunting spots..I already have 6 sponsors for our videos and I have over 250 shops waiting for our videos to come out!!! If anyone draws any good tags i would love to film or call for you!!! Reply back if you are interested...This is a opportunity you don't wanna miss out on!!!...
Ok RIBKA, in this post, please point out where he is trying to sell you something. I dont have a problem with you or anyone expressing their opionion, but twice you said he is trying to sell you something. If the admins have a problem with what he is doing then they will address the posts in a way they see fit.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 26, 2011, 11:14:34 AM
Wow, someone comes on here and offers to something great and all you guys do is flip him *censored* and question his calling abilities. :con:I was just curious, as a newcomer to the site, we do not know anything about him.
I did not question his abilities, just curious to see pictures of Elk, I questioned real elks abilities to sound as good as "champion" callers.....
Post by: Jason on March 26, 2011, 11:29:01 AM
:yeah:Hey Everyone!!! I need Hunters for this upcoming season!!!...My name is Dustin Howard, I have a production company called Battling bulls productions...I am a World championship elk caller..I took 3rd in the Mens division in the World Championships this year in Reno and am going pro next year!!! My passion is Hunting and calling!!..I Started this production company up because every year we shoot Rosie's in WA and OR and i wanna film it!!!I have a crew of 8 guys..3 of which are world championship elk callers and all being fantastic hunters!!..I am looking for People in Washington who have a lot of points and are trying to draw coveted tags or have great hunting spots..I already have 6 sponsors for our videos and I have over 250 shops waiting for our videos to come out!!! If anyone draws any good tags i would love to film or call for you!!! Reply back if you are interested...This is a opportunity you don't wanna miss out on!!!...
Ok RIBKA, in this post, please point out where he is trying to sell you something. I dont have a problem with you or anyone expressing their opionion, but twice you said he is trying to sell you something. If the admins have a problem with what he is doing then they will address the posts in a way they see fit.
Post by: ribka on March 26, 2011, 11:42:46 AM
Hey Everyone!!! I need Hunters for this upcoming season!!!...My name is Dustin Howard, I have a production company called Battling bulls productions...I am a World championship elk caller..I took 3rd in the Mens division in the World Championships this year in Reno and am going pro next year!!! My passion is Hunting and calling!!..I Started this production company up because every year we shoot Rosie's in WA and OR and i wanna film it!!!I have a crew of 8 guys..3 of which are world championship elk callers and all being fantastic hunters!!..I am looking for People in Washington who have a lot of points and are trying to draw coveted tags or have great hunting spots..I already have 6 sponsors for our videos and I have over 250 shops waiting for our videos to come out!!! If anyone draws any good tags i would love to film or call for you!!! Reply back if you are interested...This is a opportunity you don't wanna miss out on!!!...
Ok RIBKA, in this post, please point out where he is trying to sell you something. I dont have a problem with you or anyone expressing their opionion, but twice you said he is trying to sell you something. If the admins have a problem with what he is doing then they will address the posts in a way they see fit.
Not trying to offend anyone but I think he is doing this because he is in the business of selling videos. He mentioned his business name in his post. I think there are other paying sponsors on here that sell videos and film hunts. I wish him success in his business as it is a tough market to make money. Anyway you're right up to the mods.
And when someone with no history comes on here proclaiming world champion status and requesting access to your hunting spots just a bit skeptical. Of course I am sure if you took him to one of your secret spots he would never go there with someone else to film a hunt. If he films you is he going to share video sales profits from your hunt? Does one have to sign a release form? If someone has 15 points and they go film your hunt and spook your bull during set up and that is your one shot during the season what would you do? I see he has no filming hunt experience and is a novice videographer.
Not trying to be a dick but maybe a few just some basic questions I think should be addressed :)
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 26, 2011, 12:25:16 PM
if he and his friends " every year we shoot Rosie's in WA and OR " why is he looking for "People in Washington who have a lot of points and are trying to draw coveted tags or have great hunting spots" ?
Why not just film his own hunts ?
It is just curiosity, attempting to get to know about new member,.......... :dunno:
Post by: boneaddict on March 26, 2011, 12:42:52 PM
I for one wouldn't be dragging a film crew of 8 around with me if I was seriously looking for a bull, especially with a coveted tag. But that is just me. I kinda wonder how that works for reals. I have a hard enough time being silent, being on the right side of the wind by myself.
Post by: zackmioli on March 26, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
I'm curiously watching. I don't find any of the posts asking questions as flipping him crap or being disrespectful. All pretty good questions.exactly what i was thinking.
I for one wouldn't be dragging a film crew of 8 around with me if I was seriously looking for a bull, especially with a coveted tag. But that is just me. I kinda wonder how that works for reals. I have a hard enough time being silent, being on the right side of the wind by myself.
Post by: Alan K on March 26, 2011, 02:32:02 PM
Think of the Angry Spike guys. Theres like 6 or 7 of them in that 'crew', not every one of them is right there putting the stalk on every animal. . . .
I'm sure these guys film their hunts like every other elk hunt that gets filmed. Hunter up front, camera man a bit back from him, and a caller behind them. 3 guys, including the shooter.
And yeah the guy says they hunt roosevelts in Washington and Oregon. They are almost certainly hunting general units most years in both states, the way I see it, they just want to get some draw tags with bigger bulls than your rag horns in general units on film . . .
I swear guys just decide they don't like something and start seeing red. Read what the guy said, understand it, and then comment.
EDIT: And I can see why you guys rip the guy, because he does come across as a bit of a blowhard talking about world champion this and that but still. . . I don't think he's bragging, he's just trying to show his competence. It does give him more credibility than some joe blow coming on here and saying he can call in an elk for you.
Post by: boonerboy on March 26, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
Post by: boonerboy on March 26, 2011, 02:38:53 PM
Post by: Alan K on March 26, 2011, 02:40:54 PM
Post by: boneaddict on March 26, 2011, 02:42:24 PM
Post by: Alan K on March 26, 2011, 02:49:24 PM
Post by: fish-on37 on March 26, 2011, 03:24:30 PM
Post by: jryoung on March 26, 2011, 03:32:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/Battllingbullsprod (http://www.youtube.com/user/Battllingbullsprod)
As an example the guy who won the pro-division world championship Corey Jacobson (from Elk101.com) and the Men's division winner, Dirk Durham (Corey's hunting buddy) have the elk calling footage to back up their on stage accolades. I mean, you hear plenty about the lack of elk in ID because of the woofs, but their footage isn't helping the hunters cause, they slay some serious bulls.
Congrats on coming in third, congrats on pursuing your new adventure in making a hunting film. But, if I may make a suggestion, people want to know what you can do for them. In this case, if someone was to invite you into their camp, on their long awaited draw hunt they probably want some solid support that you can call in the field and draw in the big boys and aren't someone who can only make elk pretty sounds on a lighted stage.
Here is Elk 101's youtube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/buglelk101#p/u (http://www.youtube.com/user/buglelk101#p/u)
Post by: Smokepole on March 26, 2011, 06:03:40 PM
What I'm saying is your approach, all your flattering talking, won't get you what you want. Your introduction sounds like you are trying to talk yourself up, much as you can. It aint working. I wrote magazine articles for years & never did brag about what a hotshot hunter I was. Editors started liking me & fellow hunters would freely relay their experiences and help me dig up stories. Readers would write to me, and I would never brag -- just answer question politely & wish them the best of luck. In any media related field, your relationship with viewers and your clientele is your big asset. Dropping names or counting up scores is just gonna turn people off. Your image is so important. You gotta make people feel good before they start liking you. Before people will listen, you have to lend and ear. Show patience and compassion. Killing a big bull on film won't make you an icon, but patience and compassion for others surely will.
Sounds like you have the work ethic, and good intentions. You're also young, so you aren't too set in your ways. Now you need to win the hearts of your clients and viewers. Lead by example. Be a good friend to the community. Sincerely offer your video services without talking about yourself. Ask your people questions about past hunts & show interest in them as human beings. Give them a smile & call them by their name. Keep your positive attitude, one of your great assets. Make as many friends as you possibly can. Your business is not about bulls, calls, trophies, and ribbons -- it is 100% people. Real people, like the ones on this site.
I hope you won't take offense to my comments. These are things I would say to my own son. They are things my grandpa taught to me, and his philosophy has served me well.
Best of luck,
Kevin
Post by: Alan K on March 26, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
Hey Dustin. I respect your work ethic and ambition, but what you should realize is there are some damn good hunters on this site. Men & woman who can go toe to toe with anyone climbing around in the hill with a weapon. These hunters are the salt of the earth. They might not compete for medals or ribbons or trophies -- they're just damn good hunters, that's all.
What I'm saying is your approach, all your flattering talking, won't get you what you want. Your introduction sounds like you are trying to talk yourself up, much as you can. It aint working. I wrote magazine articles for years & never did brag about what a hotshot hunter I was. Editors started liking me & fellow hunters would freely relay their experiences and help me dig up stories. Readers would write to me, and I would never brag -- just answer question politely & wish them the best of luck. In any media related field, your relationship with viewers and your clientele is your big asset. Dropping names or counting up scores is just gonna turn people off. Your image is so important. You gotta make people feel good before they start liking you. Before people will listen, you have to lend and ear. Show patience and compassion. Killing a big bull on film won't make you an icon, but patience and compassion for others surely will.
Sounds like you have the work ethic, and good intentions. You're also young, so you aren't too set in your ways. Now you need to win the hearts of your clients and viewers. Lead by example. Be a good friend to the community. Sincerely offer your video services without talking about yourself. Ask your people questions about past hunts & show interest in them as human beings. Give them a smile & call them by their name. Keep your positive attitude, one of your great assets. Make as many friends as you possibly can. Your business is not about bulls, calls, trophies, and ribbons -- it is 100% people. Real people, like the ones on this site.
I hope you won't take offense to my comments. These are things I would say to my own son. They are things my grandpa taught to me, and his philosophy has served me well.
Best of luck,
Kevin
That there is a good post.
Post by: boneaddict on March 26, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
Its evident you are full of enthusiasm and have the world by its tail as many 18-20 year olds do. Good luck and listen to Smokepoles advice.
Post by: alwinearcher on March 26, 2011, 06:55:30 PM
Hey Dustin. I respect your work ethic and ambition, but what you should realize is there are some damn good hunters on this site. Men & woman who can go toe to toe with anyone climbing around in the hill with a weapon. These hunters are the salt of the earth. They might not compete for medals or ribbons or trophies -- they're just damn good hunters, that's all.
What I'm saying is your approach, all your flattering talking, won't get you what you want. Your introduction sounds like you are trying to talk yourself up, much as you can. It aint working. I wrote magazine articles for years & never did brag about what a hotshot hunter I was. Editors started liking me & fellow hunters would freely relay their experiences and help me dig up stories. Readers would write to me, and I would never brag -- just answer question politely & wish them the best of luck. In any media related field, your relationship with viewers and your clientele is your big asset. Dropping names or counting up scores is just gonna turn people off. Your image is so important. You gotta make people feel good before they start liking you. Before people will listen, you have to lend and ear. Show patience and compassion. Killing a big bull on film won't make you an icon, but patience and compassion for others surely will.
Sounds like you have the work ethic, and good intentions. You're also young, so you aren't too set in your ways. Now you need to win the hearts of your clients and viewers. Lead by example. Be a good friend to the community. Sincerely offer your video services without talking about yourself. Ask your people questions about past hunts & show interest in them as human beings. Give them a smile & call them by their name. Keep your positive attitude, one of your great assets. Make as many friends as you possibly can. Your business is not about bulls, calls, trophies, and ribbons -- it is 100% people. Real people, like the ones on this site.
I hope you won't take offense to my comments. These are things I would say to my own son. They are things my grandpa taught to me, and his philosophy has served me well.
Best of luck,
Kevin
Well said!
Post by: TheHunt on March 26, 2011, 07:16:31 PM
Post by: bucklucky on March 26, 2011, 07:59:29 PM
Post by: JPhelps on March 26, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
Hey Dustin. I respect your work ethic and ambition, but what you should realize is there are some damn good hunters on this site. Men & woman who can go toe to toe with anyone climbing around in the hill with a weapon. These hunters are the salt of the earth. They might not compete for medals or ribbons or trophies -- they're just damn good hunters, that's all.
What I'm saying is your approach, all your flattering talking, won't get you what you want. Your introduction sounds like you are trying to talk yourself up, much as you can. It aint working. I wrote magazine articles for years & never did brag about what a hotshot hunter I was. Editors started liking me & fellow hunters would freely relay their experiences and help me dig up stories. Readers would write to me, and I would never brag -- just answer question politely & wish them the best of luck. In any media related field, your relationship with viewers and your clientele is your big asset. Dropping names or counting up scores is just gonna turn people off. Your image is so important. You gotta make people feel good before they start liking you. Before people will listen, you have to lend and ear. Show patience and compassion. Killing a big bull on film won't make you an icon, but patience and compassion for others surely will.
Sounds like you have the work ethic, and good intentions. You're also young, so you aren't too set in your ways. Now you need to win the hearts of your clients and viewers. Lead by example. Be a good friend to the community. Sincerely offer your video services without talking about yourself. Ask your people questions about past hunts & show interest in them as human beings. Give them a smile & call them by their name. Keep your positive attitude, one of your great assets. Make as many friends as you possibly can. Your business is not about bulls, calls, trophies, and ribbons -- it is 100% people. Real people, like the ones on this site.
I hope you won't take offense to my comments. These are things I would say to my own son. They are things my grandpa taught to me, and his philosophy has served me well.
Best of luck,
Kevin
I agree with Smokepole, Matt and Alan. It's all about relating to the people (hunters).
We have had a blast this last year starting and getting Primetime Outdoors off the ground. It has been a lot of fun but at the same time has turned into a lot of work. We took the approach that hunting is supposed to be fun and we would not change that, by introducing a camera.
We will never make it rich doing what we are doing. We will be lucky to recoop the costs it took to get started. What we have got in return, is the chance to meet a lot of great people and we look forward to meeting more members of the community in the future.
Primetime Outdoors wishes you the best of luck. Just be yourself and don't try to be who the "professional hunting personalities" make it look like you have to be.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 27, 2011, 12:23:57 AM
He has a similar add on Primo's Cabin Chat, and I am not really that trusting of someone who has a first post "offering" to come to my spot and film me.
Now if he said come to my spot, I need shooters to film, or started out in introductions showing some animals, even if they were cows....
Just trying to figure out if it would be worth taking a chance and showing him a good area.
Newbies could use a little intro time, before offering "an opportunity you don't wanna miss out on!!!...."
Now if Alwine was making the offer........
Post by: CamoDup on March 27, 2011, 12:38:56 AM
Hey Dustin. I respect your work ethic and ambition, but what you should realize is there are some damn good hunters on this site. Men & woman who can go toe to toe with anyone climbing around in the hill with a weapon. These hunters are the salt of the earth. They might not compete for medals or ribbons or trophies -- they're just damn good hunters, that's all.
What I'm saying is your approach, all your flattering talking, won't get you what you want. Your introduction sounds like you are trying to talk yourself up, much as you can. It aint working. I wrote magazine articles for years & never did brag about what a hotshot hunter I was. Editors started liking me & fellow hunters would freely relay their experiences and help me dig up stories. Readers would write to me, and I would never brag -- just answer question politely & wish them the best of luck. In any media related field, your relationship with viewers and your clientele is your big asset. Dropping names or counting up scores is just gonna turn people off. Your image is so important. You gotta make people feel good before they start liking you. Before people will listen, you have to lend and ear. Show patience and compassion. Killing a big bull on film won't make you an icon, but patience and compassion for others surely will.
Sounds like you have the work ethic, and good intentions. You're also young, so you aren't too set in your ways. Now you need to win the hearts of your clients and viewers. Lead by example. Be a good friend to the community. Sincerely offer your video services without talking about yourself. Ask your people questions about past hunts & show interest in them as human beings. Give them a smile & call them by their name. Keep your positive attitude, one of your great assets. Make as many friends as you possibly can. Your business is not about bulls, calls, trophies, and ribbons -- it is 100% people. Real people, like the ones on this site.
I hope you won't take offense to my comments. These are things I would say to my own son. They are things my grandpa taught to me, and his philosophy has served me well.
Best of luck,
Kevin
That there is a good post.
:tup:
Post by: madmack76 on March 27, 2011, 12:56:10 AM
Post by: Harold on March 27, 2011, 02:26:52 AM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on March 27, 2011, 06:48:22 AM
Post by: bucklucky on March 27, 2011, 08:28:36 AM
Post by: Ron Howard on March 27, 2011, 10:32:49 AM
Post by: bucklucky on March 27, 2011, 10:34:48 AM
Post by: Ron Howard on March 27, 2011, 10:36:45 AM
Post by: bucklucky on March 27, 2011, 10:39:03 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,1206.msg11407.html#msg11407 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,1206.msg11407.html#msg11407)
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,197.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,197.0.html)
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on March 27, 2011, 10:40:38 AM
You have a good attitude and you will do fine. Keep working towards your dream.
Post by: bucklucky on March 27, 2011, 10:41:47 AM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 27, 2011, 10:42:17 AM
Presto !! pics !!
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 27, 2011, 11:31:40 AM
As someone who watches a lot of hunting shows/ videos, and likes very few......
I am tired of the same old "look what I did" shows, I have fantasized about making my own, but cannot afford the gear.
Let alone I hunt with Traditional Archery and only manage to get an Elk every 6 years or so, so I don't have the success of a lot of others.
Although a lot of that has to do with hunting a spike only area, and running into more branched bulls than spikes. :bash:
My largest Bull harvested is a 5X7 that scores 242 5/8", but I do get chances at an Elk every year, usually get a doe for eating, so I am not the best subject to star in a video.
What I would like to see though is a video that spends more time explaining the basics, as in, what to look for, where to look, how to set up.
Why you use certain calls in different situations, etc......
I enjoy seeing "horn porn" as much as the next guy, but really, consider any animal harvested on public land in Washington, during general season with archery tackle a trophy.
And would appreciate more emphasis on what brought you to that point, than a video of the last 4-5 minutes before/during the shot, and another 5 minutes of "look at this".
I have enjoyed taking new hunters, (and even a couple non-hunters) out for a day in the woods, and calling in an Elk (some really good bulls even) just to show them what it is all about, at least to me, and showing them how and why I hunt increases my satisfaction and does a lot more towards getting them interested than just showing them a dead animal.
I have never entered a competition, but feel that I can call with the best of them, and as I stated earlier, sometimes real elk sound worse than hunters.
I wish you luck with your endeavor, and look forward to seeing more Washington video's.
Post by: nwhunter on March 27, 2011, 09:04:26 PM
Post by: Ron Howard on March 27, 2011, 09:28:20 PM
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Post by: dreamingbig on March 28, 2011, 04:04:08 PM
Post by: Map on March 28, 2011, 07:57:24 PM
I have some elk points built up but I am not interested in drawing attention to increase the odds for us anymore than necessary. ;)
Good luck!
Map
Post by: BENCHLEG on March 28, 2011, 09:17:42 PM
Post by: Elkpiss on March 29, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
Post by: Elkpiss on March 29, 2011, 10:43:41 AM
& my advice never check your footage while your in the woods on your hunt, cause you can record over your awesome footage you have already taped.. done that too... If your serious about being hunting video dude, take all that in to count and always have your camera in your bag and practice.. .. Filming hunts is adicting but can piss you off.. I know this has happend to plenty of other huntin vid dudes.. Good luck again!.. :)