Post by: HoofsandWings on March 30, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
Do you think it will by mid-April or later?
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Post by: jager on March 31, 2011, 08:08:47 PM
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Anyone know what the draw odds are like?
:lol4:
....sorry
Post by: TheHunt on March 31, 2011, 08:19:14 PM
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Post by: bucknbulls on April 01, 2011, 12:41:24 PM
Bucknbulls
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 01, 2011, 12:46:06 PM
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Post by: bobcat on April 01, 2011, 01:39:08 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 01, 2011, 01:47:22 PM
Post by: Alan K on April 01, 2011, 01:55:42 PM
http://bearpawoutfitters.com/wa_2009_biggame.pdf (http://bearpawoutfitters.com/wa_2009_biggame.pdf)
Page 53 of the PDF, 59 of the hard copy laws.
Post by: bobcat on April 01, 2011, 01:56:46 PM
Post by: whacker1 on April 01, 2011, 01:58:35 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 01, 2011, 01:59:02 PM
Post by: Alan K on April 01, 2011, 02:08:29 PM
Post by: usmc74 on April 05, 2011, 11:29:12 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 05, 2011, 11:31:59 AM
Game dept told my coworker the drawing will be this week :drool:
That would be pretty cool. I am sure as soon as they do, it will be posted on here for everyone to go check.
Post by: MDGrand on April 05, 2011, 11:43:22 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 05, 2011, 11:47:52 AM
Post by: whacker1 on April 05, 2011, 01:17:54 PM
How quickly do you think you need to buy your tag if you do get drawn? Don't they draw more then the actual number of permits and then its first come first serve?
Yes they will be first come first serve like they were last year, and they said they will be available on day "x". I don't think they sold out for quite awhile afterwords on the deer, based on the folks that didn't do anything until they got the letter. Ther eis a little higher demand for the elk, so those went a little faster.
Post by: Mr Mykiss on April 05, 2011, 01:55:32 PM
Post by: whacker1 on April 05, 2011, 02:03:47 PM
Was there always a "point saver" option on multiseason permits or is that new this year? I kinda feel special if it's new because I wrote a letter to Olympia suggesting it, I'm sure I wasn't the only one :)it was new this year
Post by: blacktailcrzy on April 05, 2011, 02:32:17 PM
Post by: Bob33 on April 05, 2011, 02:41:28 PM
I dont read it that way.How quickly do you think you need to buy your tag if you do get drawn? Don't they draw more then the actual number of permits and then its first come first serve?
Yes they will be first come first serve like they were last year, and they said they will be available on day "x". I don't think they sold out for quite awhile afterwords on the deer, based on the folks that didn't do anything until they got the letter. Ther eis a little higher demand for the elk, so those went a little faster.
Q. What if I am drawn, but decide not to purchase the permit?
A. Successful applicants will be allowed to purchase the permit at any time prior to September 1st. The multiple-season permit is non-refundable and non-transferable.
Post by: grundy53 on April 05, 2011, 02:49:07 PM
I dont read it that way.How quickly do you think you need to buy your tag if you do get drawn? Don't they draw more then the actual number of permits and then its first come first serve?
Yes they will be first come first serve like they were last year, and they said they will be available on day "x". I don't think they sold out for quite awhile afterwords on the deer, based on the folks that didn't do anything until they got the letter. Ther eis a little higher demand for the elk, so those went a little faster.
Q. What if I am drawn, but decide not to purchase the permit?
A. Successful applicants will be allowed to purchase the permit at any time prior to September 1st. The multiple-season permit is non-refundable and non-transferable.
:yeah: I'm pretty sure they are not over selling this year. Thats why they bumped the number of permits from 2000 to 4000 for deer and 600 to 800 for elk. So they wouldn't have to over sell.
Post by: vandeman17 on April 05, 2011, 02:51:05 PM
I dont read it that way.How quickly do you think you need to buy your tag if you do get drawn? Don't they draw more then the actual number of permits and then its first come first serve?
Yes they will be first come first serve like they were last year, and they said they will be available on day "x". I don't think they sold out for quite awhile afterwords on the deer, based on the folks that didn't do anything until they got the letter. Ther eis a little higher demand for the elk, so those went a little faster.
Q. What if I am drawn, but decide not to purchase the permit?
A. Successful applicants will be allowed to purchase the permit at any time prior to September 1st. The multiple-season permit is non-refundable and non-transferable.
:yeah: I'm pretty sure they are not over selling this year. Thats why they bumped the number of permits from 2000 to 4000 for deer and 600 to 800 for elk. So they wouldn't have to over sell.
That makes sense. Fine by me either way after I get drawn. :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2011, 03:00:20 PM
Post by: grundy53 on April 05, 2011, 03:20:22 PM
Just called the WDFW, guy said that the multi season tag results wouldn't be out for another 1-2 weeks. My concern is that I have to buy my small game liscense in order to buy my turkey tags. However, if I but my big game combo tags then I save like $20 on the small game liscence. But I dont want to buy my deer or elk tags before the results and choose my weapon selection yet. By holding out on the multi season results until after the 15th of April the WDWF will get another $20 out of me on top of the $200+ I drop every year for hunting/fishing liscenses and special permit apps., feels like I'm getting shafted. :dunno:
You still have to buy a deer license either way. The deer tag is free. The permit is $180.00 on top of the deer license. Go ahead and buy your license now.
Post by: Elkstuffer on April 05, 2011, 03:23:01 PM
Post by: grundy53 on April 05, 2011, 03:30:06 PM
Post by: grundy53 on April 05, 2011, 03:37:13 PM
Just called the WDFW, guy said that the multi season tag results wouldn't be out for another 1-2 weeks. My concern is that I have to buy my small game liscense in order to buy my turkey tags. However, if I but my big game combo tags then I save like $20 on the small game liscence. But I dont want to buy my deer or elk tags before the results and choose my weapon selection yet. By holding out on the multi season results until after the 15th of April the WDWF will get another $20 out of me on top of the $200+ I drop every year for hunting/fishing liscenses and special permit apps., feels like I'm getting shafted. :dunno:
You still have to buy a deer license either way. The deer tag is free. The permit is $180.00 on top of the deer license. Go ahead and buy your license now.
I was under the impression that you only paid the $180 for the permit to hunt you deer/elk. So from what I gather you are saying that I would but the tag for "X" amount then also pay the $180 for the permit right? Therefore my deer tag would say archery but with the multi permit I would be hunting all the seasons (with the applicable weapons permitted).I was told today they were drawing on or before April 15th.
Go figure, they never seem to be on the same page.
You buy a deer license, They give you the tag for free. Then you draw a multi season deer permit you have to pay $180.00 for the permit. They then issue you a new tag that says multi season on it and ask you to return your "archery" tag. So yes it's $180.00 on top of the X amount you spend on a license.
Post by: grundy53 on April 05, 2011, 03:38:37 PM
Just when I think I have this multi season pemit thing figured out I am total confused once again. I personally believe the WDFW is in bed with local WA breweries, everytime I try to figure this stuff out it leads me to drink! >:(
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: I hear ya. The only reason I figured it out is I've drawn three times and I always buy my licenses before they draw for the multi season permit.
Post by: grundy53 on April 05, 2011, 03:59:29 PM
Thanks for the clarification grundy, having never drawn a multi yet (this was the first year I put in) it was all a little overwhelming. However, I still am going to pick up that six pack of barley pop for "therapeutic reasons". :chuckle:
Lol no problem. I've been there and yes the beer helps. :chuckle:
Post by: Bob33 on April 05, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
You can purchase a big game hunting license without specifying the type of tag you want. You will eventually need to get one if you wish to hunt a deer or elk, or if you wish to apply for a special permit. When you do get a tag, you will then need to specify hunting implement for deer and elk (archery, muzzleloader, modern) and East or West for elk.
That is exactly what I did: I purchased a Deer/Elk/Bear/Cougar license for 2011/2012. I have not yet "purchased" my deer and elk tags (they were actually part of the license but I will need to pay a small dealer fee when I actually get them). I applied for a Multi-Season elk permit. If drawn, I will need to pay $180 for the multi-season permit, and I will also need to get an elk tag. If I don't draw, I will still need to get a deer and/or elk tag if I wish to apply for special permits, or to hunt them.
Post by: Antlershed on April 05, 2011, 04:48:38 PM
Post by: Bob33 on April 05, 2011, 05:06:37 PM
If there are permits left then you can buy them up untill the last day of sale. The elk permits will be sold out within a day or two of being on sale, why the deer will not be sold out that fast.I don't expect that to be the case this year. WDFW is planning to draw exactly the quotas. If there are 4000 permits available, they will draw 4000 names. That means everyone who draws will have an opportunity to purchase a permit. The deadline to purchase is September 1.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2011, 05:12:16 PM
Post by: Bob33 on April 05, 2011, 05:15:56 PM
Post by: grundy53 on April 05, 2011, 05:17:44 PM
I was told by WDFW that they plan to draw the quota. Since they have stated that all applicants that draw can purchase a permit up until September 1, I don't see how they could do it any other way. If they draw more than the quota, then they can't promise everyone an opportunity to purchase one.
:yeah: Thats the way I read it...
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2011, 05:18:25 PM
Post by: Bob33 on April 05, 2011, 05:21:58 PM
If that turns out to be the case, my bet is not even 50% of the deer tags will get bought.Yep. A lot of people put in, and then find out they need to pay $180 for the permit. That's a pretty steep price for deer. I suspect most of the elk will sell: maybe 80 to 90 percent of those who draw will buy the permit.
Post by: grundy53 on April 05, 2011, 05:23:06 PM
If that turns out to be the case, my bet is not even 50% of the deer tags will get bought.
I think thats why they upped the permits. They figure if they draw 4000 names then atleast 2000 people will actually buy them which means they get the same money as last year but they don't have to deal with the hassle of a first come first serve onslaught after the drawing. Plus they might figure with the odds being so good then more people will put in for it. Even if they don't buy one the wdfw still gets $6.50 per permit app.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2011, 05:53:16 PM
Post by: Jason on April 05, 2011, 06:41:32 PM
Post by: Bob33 on April 05, 2011, 06:45:49 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 05, 2011, 07:06:18 PM
Of course, if they do sell all 4000, I'm sure they won't mind at all- that's why they're giving everyone drawn the chance to purchase all the way up to September 1st. If they sell 4000 instead of just 2000, that's an extra $360 THOUSAND. :yike:
Post by: Bob33 on April 05, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
Of course, if they do sell all 4000, I'm sure they won't mind at all- that's why they're giving everyone drawn the chance to purchase all the way up to September 1st. If they sell 4000 instead of just 2000, that's an extra $360 THOUSAND. :yike:Hmmm...I wonder if that thought crossed their minds?
Post by: JBar on April 05, 2011, 07:16:50 PM
Post by: huntnnw on April 05, 2011, 07:52:44 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on April 05, 2011, 08:32:35 PM
Licenses. Tags. They are different.
You can purchase a big game hunting license without specifying the type of tag you want. You will eventually need to get one if you wish to hunt a deer or elk, or if you wish to apply for a special permit. When you do get a tag, you will then need to specify hunting implement for deer and elk (archery, muzzleloader, modern) and East or West for elk.
That is exactly what I did: I purchased a Deer/Elk/Bear/Cougar license for 2011/2012. I have not yet "purchased" my deer and elk tags (they were actually part of the license but I will need to pay a small dealer fee when I actually get them). I applied for a Multi-Season elk permit. If drawn, I will need to pay $180 for the multi-season permit, and I will also need to get an elk tag. If I don't draw, I will still need to get a deer and/or elk tag if I wish to apply for special permits, or to hunt them.
What he said.
Post by: blacktailcrzy on April 06, 2011, 05:45:06 PM
Post by: Jason on April 06, 2011, 05:46:53 PM
well some people say that we will know the results this week and some say two weeks from now dose any one REALLY KNOW!! for sureBy the end of April we will all know.
Post by: Bob33 on April 06, 2011, 05:52:32 PM
well some people say that we will know the results this week and some say two weeks from now dose any one REALLY KNOW!! for sure"The shadow knows but he ain't talkin..."
I don't think anyone that knows can or will say until it is completely ready. I suspect they're testing it.
Post by: grundy53 on April 06, 2011, 07:12:25 PM
well some people say that we will know the results this week and some say two weeks from now dose any one REALLY KNOW!! for sure"The shadow knows but he ain't talkin..."
I don't think anyone that knows can or will say until it is completely ready. I suspect they're testing it.
:yeah:
Post by: KimberRich on April 07, 2011, 08:01:33 AM
Good Luck to everybody.
Post by: kglacken on April 07, 2011, 08:59:11 AM
Post by: usmc74 on April 07, 2011, 09:08:23 AM
Post by: kglacken on April 07, 2011, 09:17:52 AM
Post by: whacker1 on April 07, 2011, 09:24:15 AM
Post by: usmc74 on April 07, 2011, 04:53:04 PM
I'm not seeing anything close to that
Post by: Bob33 on April 07, 2011, 05:08:46 PM
Post by: usmc74 on April 09, 2011, 07:41:35 AM
https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt
I go here, and it does not even show this years multiseason apps being purchased. The place I was last year said draw not conducted (or like that) for the current year.
The licence purchase history show I bought both apps Jan 21
Have they shielded our backdoor?
Post by: Button Nubbs on April 09, 2011, 07:49:30 AM
Post by: usmc74 on April 09, 2011, 08:40:45 AM
Q. How do I enter the drawing after I purchase the application?
A. Your application is automatically entered into the drawing unless you apply with a partner (there are no hunt choice numbers to submit).
Post by: DBZona on April 09, 2011, 08:47:24 AM
Purchased. Web site FAQ says all you do is buy them.
This is going to be a long 12 month wait to see if you drew. Unfortunatley you have to submit the app after you purchase it, otherwise they don't know if you want just a ghost point or actually want to draw the tag. Sorry man.
Post by: Alan K on April 09, 2011, 08:58:27 AM
Post by: archery288 on April 09, 2011, 09:01:20 AM
Q. How do I enter the drawing after I purchase the application?
A. Your application is automatically entered into the drawing unless you apply with a partner (there are no hunt choice numbers to submit).
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/multi-season_permit.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/multi-season_permit.html)
Post by: Bob33 on April 09, 2011, 09:09:43 AM
Not true. If you purchase the application and do nothing, it is submitted automatically. You can optionally submit the application for points only, or submit a group application. However, if you do nothing it is submitted.Purchased. Web site FAQ says all you do is buy them.
This is going to be a long 12 month wait to see if you drew. Unfortunatley you have to submit the app after you purchase it, otherwise they don't know if you want just a ghost point or actually want to draw the tag. Sorry man.
Post by: DBZona on April 09, 2011, 09:38:32 AM
Not true. If you purchase the application and do nothing, it is submitted automatically. You can optionally submit the application for points only, or submit a group application. However, if you do nothing it is submitted.Purchased. Web site FAQ says all you do is buy them.
This is going to be a long 12 month wait to see if you drew. Unfortunatley you have to submit the app after you purchase it, otherwise they don't know if you want just a ghost point or actually want to draw the tag. Sorry man.
I was unaware of that...My apologies. :hello: That is good info to know for the future.
Post by: Bob33 on April 09, 2011, 11:40:33 AM
Good luck to all of you.
Post by: Swatson on April 11, 2011, 09:40:35 AM
Post by: jstone on April 11, 2011, 09:53:53 AM
Post by: BlackRidge on April 11, 2011, 10:07:38 AM
Post by: dreamingbig on April 11, 2011, 11:27:10 AM
Post by: oldleclercrd on April 11, 2011, 11:34:28 AM
Post by: CamoDup on April 11, 2011, 11:37:31 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 11, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
Just got off the phone with wdfw. The drawing was completed on Saturday and they are just waiting for their IT people to come in and put it up on the website! Should be up by late morning or early afternoon!
I hope you are right but I don't know who to believe anymore :'(
Post by: jackelope on April 11, 2011, 12:11:51 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 11, 2011, 02:27:26 PM
Post by: millertime89 on April 11, 2011, 02:31:19 PM
Post by: Swatson on April 11, 2011, 02:38:41 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on April 11, 2011, 02:44:01 PM
Post by: oldleclercrd on April 11, 2011, 02:46:53 PM
They better friggin hurry up because they're making me out to be a liar! Passing the time at Cabelas buying a new rifle! That's how confident I am that I drew!
Sure sure rub it in while were all at work... :bash:
Post by: kirkl on April 11, 2011, 02:56:00 PM
They better friggin hurry up because they're making me out to be a liar! Passing the time at Cabelas buying a new rifle! That's how confident I am that I drew!
Post by: jackelope on April 11, 2011, 03:03:11 PM
Call them 3 more times and youll probably get 4 different answers. no one knows whats going on in that office.They better friggin hurry up because they're making me out to be a liar! Passing the time at Cabelas buying a new rifle! That's how confident I am that I drew!
The drawings are done at Outdoor Central...not even done at WDFW office.
:dunno:
Who knows. The answers to this sort of question over the years definitely varies by who answers the phone.
Post by: kirkl on April 11, 2011, 03:07:23 PM
The drawings are done at Outdoor Central...not even done at WDFW office.
:dunno:
Who knows. The answers to this sort of question over the years definitely varies by who answers the phone.
Post by: fair-chase on April 11, 2011, 03:15:32 PM
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WDFW acts like no one knows what anybody else does down there, and it doesn't even have to be a question about the draws.
Your right, they don't have a friggin clue. I called in today to try and get a copy of the 2010 status and trend reports. They acted like they had never herd of such a thing. Got transferred several times. After about 45 minutes on the phone I was told that they are no longer publishing the book form and I have to print it off myself. :bash: I'm all for them saving money and not publishing it but does it really take 45 minutes and 4 different people to find this out. While every one that I talked to was nice, they don't have a clue what goes on in their own office.
Post by: vandeman17 on April 11, 2011, 03:21:58 PM
Post by: Gutpile on April 11, 2011, 04:25:07 PM
Just got off the phone with wdfw. The drawing was completed on Saturday and they are just waiting for their IT people to come in and put it up on the website! Should be up by late morning or early afternoon!
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy136%2FSprayer%2Funtitled.jpg&hash=91aa54bb0656cac710a13165f49f503aa9aa4383)
Post by: JBar on April 11, 2011, 04:27:27 PM
Post by: Swatson on April 11, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
Post by: Gutpile on April 11, 2011, 04:55:26 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 11, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
Post by: Bob33 on April 11, 2011, 05:06:40 PM
Sorry to let you down fellas.You just reported what you were told. Maybe they are still "just waiting for their IT people to come in..." :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on April 11, 2011, 05:19:34 PM
Post by: halflife65 on April 11, 2011, 05:19:50 PM
Sorry to let you down fellas. My battery on my phone is about dead from all the back door checking throughout the day! At least I got a new Tikka 300 WSM to sit and stare at and hope that one day they post the multi season results!
I'm all excited about the multi - you're breaking my heart with all this talk of results being out. Probably just going to get some nice points to use next year, but you never know.
Congratulations on the rifle! As an aside, I shot 2 boxes through my Tikka yesterday and remembered why I like shooting that thing - I've been bow hunting for awhile now and rarely shoot this rifle because of the cost of ammo. Shoots great with Federal Premium Vital Shock 165gr or 180gr. What does suck is the Winchester CPX - I had a couple of old boxes of 150s (I probably bought them 4 or 5 years ago and just never used them) and it was alarming - it sprayed bullets all over the place like the barrel was made out of rubber. Really weird. I actually thought something was wrong with the rifle until I went back to the Federals and it started to shoot straight again. I don't know if it doesn't like the 150s or it doesn't like the Winchester ammo - either way I'm not buying any more of it.
Post by: BlackRidge on April 11, 2011, 05:48:43 PM
Can't wait for these results, at least its easier to check this thread than continue to login and check each time. Good luck errrbody
Post by: Swatson on April 11, 2011, 08:10:53 PM
Post by: steelhead13 on April 11, 2011, 08:15:29 PM
Post by: blacktailcrzy on April 11, 2011, 09:03:29 PM
Post by: huntnnw on April 11, 2011, 09:31:00 PM
Post by: aer212 on April 11, 2011, 09:39:03 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2011, 07:17:38 AM
Is there a way to check if you won?
When the results come out there is...the results are not out yet though...maybe today.
Post by: mritech1 on April 12, 2011, 08:46:35 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2011, 08:50:49 AM
At least now it says draw not run yet :drool:
It has always said that.
Post by: Bigtine96 on April 12, 2011, 09:09:40 AM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on April 12, 2011, 09:11:26 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2011, 09:14:17 AM
I've been seeing that for over a month now. :dunno:
Post by: Ridgeratt on April 12, 2011, 09:19:55 AM
Reading this post just sounds and reminds me of Kids & Grandkids at Christmas!!
:chuckle:
Post by: Wenatcheejay on April 12, 2011, 09:22:50 AM
That's odd that some of you are saying it is just now starting to show "draw not run yet."
I've been seeing that for over a month now. :dunno:
I didn't have 2011 drawings.
Post by: mritech1 on April 12, 2011, 09:28:01 AM
Post by: Bigtine96 on April 12, 2011, 09:31:44 AM
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 12, 2011, 09:34:57 AM
I applied a few minutes after midnight on January 1st.
Bobcat, when did you apply?
Multiseason elk popped up today for draw not run yet. However, multiseason deer is not on the list yet.
I think what is happening now is they are reconcilling the different databases so everyone who put in is shown on the list.
Also, they may have received an updated list of who can not apply for multiseason tags and have to check that out.
Post by: washelkhntr on April 12, 2011, 09:36:45 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 12, 2011, 09:48:35 AM
Mine has been showing 2011 multi season deer and elk - draw not run yet since before spring bear results were out.
That is what mine has said too. I can't believe how much time I have wasted checking this stupid drawing. At least now I have my wild id # memorized. :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2011, 09:59:23 AM
I think it has something to do as when you applied and whether it was on line or in person.
I applied a few minutes after midnight on January 1st.
Bobcat, when did you apply?
Multiseason elk popped up today for draw not run yet. However, multiseason deer is not on the list yet.
I think what is happening now is they are reconcilling the different databases so everyone who put in is shown on the list.
Also, they may have received an updated list of who can not apply for multiseason tags and have to check that out.
I applied March 7th, and did it online. I also submitted my applications- I wonder if that made a difference? Some people may have just purchased the applications and not submitted them.
Post by: Swatson on April 12, 2011, 10:12:49 AM
Post by: Angus on April 12, 2011, 10:25:36 AM
Some people may have just purchased the applications and not submitted them.
When I purchased mine (Bob's sporting goods) I was told it was automatically submitted, sure hope thats the case because I didn't submit anything! :yike:
Post by: WSU on April 12, 2011, 10:27:37 AM
I think it has something to do as when you applied and whether it was on line or in person.
I applied a few minutes after midnight on January 1st.
Bobcat, when did you apply?
Multiseason elk popped up today for draw not run yet. However, multiseason deer is not on the list yet.
I think what is happening now is they are reconcilling the different databases so everyone who put in is shown on the list.
Also, they may have received an updated list of who can not apply for multiseason tags and have to check that out.
I applied March 7th, and did it online. I also submitted my applications- I wonder if that made a difference? Some people may have just purchased the applications and not submitted them.
I purchased mine online and submitted them. I just got 2011 elk to pop up as of today. It wasn't there yesterday.
Post by: jstone on April 12, 2011, 10:29:02 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2011, 10:35:27 AM
DFAW probably watching this site and others LAUGHING and toying with us all.. Love putting us through the pain every year :chuckle: :chuckle:
:yeah: :chuckle:
Post by: Tman on April 12, 2011, 11:08:10 AM
Some people may have just purchased the applications and not submitted them.
When I purchased mine (Bob's sporting goods) I was told it was automatically submitted, sure hope thats the case because I didn't submit anything! :yike:
Sounds like your out 6 bucks angus.
Post by: usmc74 on April 12, 2011, 11:08:42 AM
Getting closer
Post by: usmc74 on April 12, 2011, 11:11:44 AM
I did not, and "back door" now shows both my permits, but draw not yet done.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on April 12, 2011, 11:14:13 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
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Q. How do I enter the drawing after I purchase the application?
A. Your application is automatically entered into the drawing unless you apply with a partner (there are no hunt choice numbers to submit).
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/multi-season_permit.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/multi-season_permit.html)
Post by: Swatson on April 12, 2011, 01:08:30 PM
Post by: Ridgeratt on April 12, 2011, 01:15:49 PM
So I called again just now(I know I know but I'm at home with the baby and bored) and just thought I'd let you all know that the lady that answered this time said that they should be up by the END OF THE MONTH! LMAO REALLY!?
So do they know the sound of your voice yet?
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 12, 2011, 01:19:44 PM
So I called again just now(I know I know but I'm at home with the baby and bored) and just thought I'd let you all know that the lady that answered this time said that they should be up by the END OF THE MONTH! LMAO REALLY!?
Call back 2 more times today. See if the answers match.
It's kinda like a success rate. :chuckle:
Post by: vandeman17 on April 12, 2011, 01:20:21 PM
So I called again just now(I know I know but I'm at home with the baby and bored) and just thought I'd let you all know that the lady that answered this time said that they should be up by the END OF THE MONTH! LMAO REALLY!?
Sounds about right to me. Why can't they just give you an honest answer and say, "I don't have an f'ing clue" :dunno:
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 12, 2011, 01:22:27 PM
So I called again just now(I know I know but I'm at home with the baby and bored) and just thought I'd let you all know that the lady that answered this time said that they should be up by the END OF THE MONTH! LMAO REALLY!?
Sounds about right to me. Why can't they just give you an honest answer and say, "I don't have an f'ing clue" :dunno:
Your sounding too logical. Logic is not part of the State's equation.
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2011, 02:06:46 PM
So I called again just now(I know I know but I'm at home with the baby and bored) and just thought I'd let you all know that the lady that answered this time said that they should be up by the END OF THE MONTH! LMAO REALLY!?
She wouldn't be wrong...right?
Quote
Q. When and how will I be notified of the drawing results?http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/multi-season_permit.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/multi-season_permit.html)
A. We anticipate notifications will be mailed out by the end of April.
Post by: TONTO on April 12, 2011, 04:57:31 PM
Hey Swatson, you been bacl on the phone yet? :)
Post by: hoyt2002 on April 12, 2011, 05:24:51 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on April 12, 2011, 05:54:42 PM
I don't trust that the WDFW would submit anything correct for me.
Post by: hoyt2002 on April 12, 2011, 06:01:46 PM
Post by: funkster on April 12, 2011, 06:04:57 PM
QuoteQ. How do I enter the drawing after I purchase the application?
A. Your application is automatically entered into the drawing unless you apply with a partner (there are no hunt choice numbers to submit).
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/multi-season_permit.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/multi-season_permit.html)
This is not 100% true. You can choose the point option this year as well as a group option. I manually submitted my multi season deer/elk apps because how would they know if I wanted a group or point option? With the wdfw you just never can assume anything. :twocents:
Post by: YoterHunter on April 12, 2011, 06:35:01 PM
Post by: huntsonofgun on April 12, 2011, 08:17:20 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 12, 2011, 08:25:18 PM
Post by: Swatson on April 12, 2011, 08:37:41 PM
Post by: Bigtine96 on April 12, 2011, 08:43:22 PM
I tried calling back and they've blocked my number! I'll try calling from a different phone tomorrow! Maybe if I annoy them enough they'll just post them so I'll stop calling!
I have a feeling your not gonna draw :chuckle:
Post by: Wenatcheejay on April 12, 2011, 08:45:11 PM
I tried calling back and they've blocked my number! I'll try calling from a different phone tomorrow! Maybe if I annoy them enough they'll just post them so I'll stop calling!
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Dude, you are a stalker, that's funny...
Post by: Ridgeratt on April 12, 2011, 08:48:16 PM
I tried calling back and they've blocked my number! I'll try calling from a different phone tomorrow! Maybe if I annoy them enough they'll just post them so I'll stop calling!
I have a feeling your not gonna draw :chuckle:
Or they will just give him a tag to silence him!!! :chuckle:
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on April 12, 2011, 09:36:06 PM
I tried calling back and they've blocked my number! I'll try calling from a different phone tomorrow! Maybe if I annoy them enough they'll just post them so I'll stop calling!
Yeah that probably works about as well as someone calling me every 2 weeks after dropping off his animal asking me for an update. Thinking I will get it done quicker.
When in reality the more time I am on the phone, the lest time I have to work, the longer it takes to get stuff done. :DOH:
Post by: Shadow Cat on April 12, 2011, 09:42:56 PM
Post by: blacktailcrzy on April 12, 2011, 09:43:26 PM
GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!! :EAT:
Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2011, 09:53:36 PM
And yes, I'm anxiously awaiting to find out if I am so lucky that I will get to spend an extra $180 on hunting license fees this year. :o :chuckle:
Post by: blacktailcrzy on April 12, 2011, 09:57:40 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2011, 10:03:04 PM
Post by: Swatson on April 12, 2011, 10:14:12 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 12, 2011, 10:26:11 PM
Post by: huntnnw on April 12, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 12, 2011, 10:43:48 PM
Or like when you go to the doctor for something 'small', and then they need tests. Might as well just give them your wallet, SSN, and first born.
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on April 12, 2011, 11:09:49 PM
Ohhhh wait never mind they hired a couple people to answer those phone calls. So now everyone can bitch about WDFW raising the rates of licenses and tags and still not having enough money for things like more WDFW Officers, etc. :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 12, 2011, 11:13:02 PM
Post by: Swatson on April 13, 2011, 07:43:07 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 13, 2011, 08:00:59 PM
Post by: t6 on April 13, 2011, 09:48:21 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 13, 2011, 09:51:14 PM
Post by: Bigtine96 on April 13, 2011, 10:04:05 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 13, 2011, 10:08:28 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 13, 2011, 10:41:15 PM
Post by: Swatson on April 14, 2011, 08:39:06 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 14, 2011, 09:04:14 AM
Post by: kirkl on April 14, 2011, 09:08:48 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 14, 2011, 09:28:34 AM
Well maybe if they'd just post the friggin results when they drew them(last Saturday) or better yet earlier in the year for people that have to put in for vacation leave from work, they wouldn't be receiving all these calls! I.E. Spring Bear-Posted the results two weeks before the season starts! Not a whole lot of time to plan!
If you actually think they ran the draws last saturday, I suspect you've got another thing coming.
WDFW doesn't even run the draws. A company called "Outdoor Central" does. The receptionist lady that was so polite to help you has no clue when another company in another state ran the draws for us.
:twocents:
Post by: brianmtsinc on April 14, 2011, 09:28:48 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 14, 2011, 09:29:26 AM
my guess is tomorrow :dunno:It always seems to fall on a Friday...I suspect you'll be right.
Post by: Swatson on April 14, 2011, 09:33:07 AM
Well maybe if they'd just post the friggin results when they drew them(last Saturday) or better yet earlier in the year for people that have to put in for vacation leave from work, they wouldn't be receiving all these calls! I.E. Spring Bear-Posted the results two weeks before the season starts! Not a whole lot of time to plan!
If you actually think they ran the draws last saturday, I suspect you've got another thing coming.
WDFW doesn't even run the draws. A company called "Outdoor Central" does. The receptionist lady that was so polite to help you has no clue when another company in another state ran the draws for us.
:twocents:
Exactly! Another prime example of how jacked up our state is in regards to our permit draws! Point is if they know it takes this long why not have the draw earlier in the year!
Post by: kirkl on April 14, 2011, 09:33:11 AM
Post by: brianmtsinc on April 14, 2011, 09:38:16 AM
Post by: kirkl on April 14, 2011, 09:39:38 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 14, 2011, 10:07:34 AM
well...... outdoor central's site is down.... maybe there are about to post it ????I think your right Brian. Let's get it over with already.
Post by: brianmtsinc on April 14, 2011, 10:14:00 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 14, 2011, 10:43:51 AM
Well maybe if they'd just post the friggin results when they drew them(last Saturday) or better yet earlier in the year for people that have to put in for vacation leave from work, they wouldn't be receiving all these calls! I.E. Spring Bear-Posted the results two weeks before the season starts! Not a whole lot of time to plan!
If you actually think they ran the draws last saturday, I suspect you've got another thing coming.
WDFW doesn't even run the draws. A company called "Outdoor Central" does. The receptionist lady that was so polite to help you has no clue when another company in another state ran the draws for us.
:twocents:
Exactly! Another prime example of how jacked up our state is in regards to our permit draws! Point is if they know it takes this long why not have the draw earlier in the year!
I'm sort of with you and sort of not with you...
The website clearly says results will be available by the end of the month. understand that maybe it takes longer than it should but the results are most always out when they say they will be out.
We're not the only state to use the Outdoor Central to run draws.
Post by: Swatson on April 14, 2011, 10:56:57 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 14, 2011, 11:01:32 AM
But I think were the only state that can't send a special permit out by more than one day before that permit season begins. Thats assuming it comes in the mail today. Be really sad if it doesn't come today as the season starts tomorrow and I don't have my permit yet! I'm no rocket scientist but to me thats an issue that needs to be corrected!
No offense but I'd be calling someone at WDFW and find out WTF is up...
Post by: jackelope on April 14, 2011, 11:02:34 AM
Eastern - Region 1 (Spokane) 509 892-1001 509 921-2440 TeamSpokane@dfw.wa.gov
North Central - Region 2 (Ephrata) 509 754-4624 509 754-5257 TeamEphrata@dfw.wa.gov
South Central - Region 3 (Yakima) 509 575-2740 509 575-2474 TeamYakima@dfw.wa.gov
North Puget Sound - Region 4 (Mill Creek) 425 775-1311 425 338-1066 TeamMillCreek@dfw.wa.gov
Southwest - Region 5 (Vancouver) 360 696-6211 360 906-6776 TeamVancouver@dfw.wa.gov
Coastal - Region 6 (Montesano) 360 249-4628 360 249-1229 TeamMontesano@dfw.wa.gov
Post by: Swatson on April 14, 2011, 11:09:34 AM
Post by: brianmtsinc on April 14, 2011, 11:12:02 AM
Post by: seth30 on April 14, 2011, 11:12:23 AM
BLACK BEAR 2010 Individual 000576019 02/24/2010 06:22 Not Selected
MULTISEASON DEER 2011 Individual 000836807 03/22/2011 05:38 Draw Not Run Yet
:yike: :yike: :yike:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 14, 2011, 11:14:08 AM
Post by: KillBilly on April 14, 2011, 11:25:54 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 14, 2011, 11:37:50 AM
Yep already did that! They said they started mailing those out on TUESDAY!
I bet you have it today then.
:dunno:
Post by: Swatson on April 14, 2011, 11:48:25 AM
Post by: BlackRidge on April 14, 2011, 11:52:13 AM
:twocents: So no surprise here..
Post by: steeleywhopper on April 14, 2011, 02:28:53 PM
P.S. If any of the employee's at the WDFW are reading this and can hook a brother up for some good props I would love to draw a Bull moose tag this year. :) Yes I am brown nosing!
Post by: halflife65 on April 14, 2011, 03:07:42 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 14, 2011, 03:11:44 PM
:yeah: I think that the VAST majority of the fish and wildlife guys are good, hard working people.
I think they are too. I think the issues that we see just deal with coordination and one group not knowing what the other is doing half the time. If you call with a question, unless you get the right person, you may not get the correct answer but it doesn't mean that the person you spoke with isn't good at their job. :twocents:
Post by: Wenatcheejay on April 14, 2011, 03:16:10 PM
Post by: grundy53 on April 14, 2011, 03:19:19 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 14, 2011, 03:34:06 PM
At least you arent alone on that. I'm just of the opinion that the DFW is full of inept scat-heads, so assume anything theyre supposed to have done will likely be finished weeks after, and usually incorrectly
:twocents: So no surprise here..
So you assume that the multiseason results will be out sometime in May?
Post by: jackelope on April 14, 2011, 03:35:10 PM
:twocents:
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 14, 2011, 04:05:26 PM
I think that 99% of the issues WDFW "has" wouldn't exist if it weren't for internet hunting forums.
:twocents:
:chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on April 14, 2011, 07:04:57 PM
Not sure what world you live in Bobcat but in my world no vacation is guaranteed and the earlier I put in the better the shot I have at getting it! All these other states don't seem to have this problem! Spring bear starts tomorrow, still haven't gotten my Kapowsin permit? ???
Well, sorry but I don't see your lack of flexibility at work being the WDFW's problem. Maybe you should consider putting in for the vacation you would need IF you draw a permit you apply for. Then if you don't draw, cancel the vacation.
I do agree it is a problem if your bear season starts tomorrow and you haven't received your permit in the mail yet. But things happen that may be out of the control of the DFW. Maybe the mailed your permit and it got lost in the mail somehow, or stolen out of your mailbox. A couple years ago I drew a special permit for a late rifle deer hunt, and never received it in the mail. I went to the WDFW office in Olympia and they printed it out for me at that time.
Post by: Swatson on April 15, 2011, 05:42:23 AM
Not sure what world you live in Bobcat but in my world no vacation is guaranteed and the earlier I put in the better the shot I have at getting it! All these other states don't seem to have this problem! Spring bear starts tomorrow, still haven't gotten my Kapowsin permit? ???
Well, sorry but I don't see your lack of flexibility at work being the WDFW's problem. Maybe you should consider putting in for the vacation you would need IF you draw a permit you apply for. Then if you don't draw, cancel the vacation. I do agree it is a problem if your bear season starts tomorrow and you haven't received your permit in the mail yet. But things happen that may be out of the control of the DFW. Maybe the mailed your permit and it got lost in the mail somehow, or stolen out of your mailbox. A couple years ago I drew a special permit for a late rifle deer hunt, and never received it in the mail. I went to the WDFW office in Olympia and they printed it out for me at that time.
Again Bobcat, not sure what world your living in? In my world and probably just about everyone elses, you don't get to put in for multiple vacation requests and then cancel all the ones you don't want or need anymore and keep the ones you do want! Think about how well this would work if everybody could do that at one place of employment? Not very well! Has nothing to do with lack of flexibility. I think just about all of us put in for a number of different permits with various season times, that'd be a lot of vacation requests! Did you think about what you were saying as you wrote this? Things happen???? No I called WDFW yesterday and they casually responded with "oh we mailed those out on Tuesday, you should hopefully be getting them in the mail today." So apparently that's acceptable to mail them out that late and hope the permits arrive in the mail the day before the season starts! This happens year in and year out and gets old. Bottom line is theres no excuse for drawing permits at the last second or half way through the year! All these other states have gotten it figured out but somehow ours can't?
Post by: Gutpile on April 15, 2011, 05:52:00 AM
Bobcat, Question for you. I think this has been talked about before but lest say you draw a Multi Season Elk tag. Can you apply for a Muzzy Cow permit and a Modern Bull permit?
Post by: boneaddict on April 15, 2011, 06:00:44 AM
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I think that 99% of the issues WDFW "has" wouldn't exist if it weren't for internet hunting forums.That and the cell phone. You guys think its so cool to call and bug them, but everytime you do it takes that much more time off their hands. When you are doing your job, do you like the phone ringing distracting you constantly. Try some patience. Its good practice for in the field.
Post by: grundy53 on April 15, 2011, 06:01:27 AM
Bobcat, Question for you. I think this has been talked about before but lest say you draw a Multi Season Elk tag. Can you apply for a Muzzy Cow permit and a Modern Bull permit?
Yes. The last time I had it I put in for rifle cow and muzzy cow and was drawn for muzzy cow.
Post by: Gutpile on April 15, 2011, 06:07:00 AM
QuoteI think that 99% of the issues WDFW "has" wouldn't exist if it weren't for internet hunting forums.That and the cell phone. You guys think its so cool to call and bug them, but everytime you do it takes that much more time off their hands. When you are doing your job, do you like the phone ringing distracting you constantly. Try some patience. Its good practice for in the field.
:yeah:
Patience? So it's the day before spring bear and I didn't have my permit yet? Time for patience was over!
Thought we were talking about multiseason tags here?
Bobcat, Question for you. I think this has been talked about before but lest say you draw a Multi Season Elk tag. Can you apply for a Muzzy Cow permit and a Modern Bull permit?
Yes. The last time I had it I put in for rifle cow and muzzy cow and was drawn for muzzy cow.
Thanks Much!!!
Post by: Swatson on April 15, 2011, 06:09:23 AM
Post by: boneaddict on April 15, 2011, 06:16:31 AM
Post by: Swatson on April 15, 2011, 06:19:05 AM
QuoteI think that 99% of the issues WDFW "has" wouldn't exist if it weren't for internet hunting forums.That and the cell phone. You guys think its so cool to call and bug them, but everytime you do it takes that much more time off their hands. When you are doing your job, do you like the phone ringing distracting you constantly. Try some patience. Its good practice for in the field.
We think its cool to call them and bug them? I know whats not cool and thats not having your special permit the day before the season begins! It would suck if I had to travel and couldn't leave home yet because I was waiting on the mail man to see if he had my permit!
Post by: Gutpile on April 15, 2011, 06:22:03 AM
QuoteI think that 99% of the issues WDFW "has" wouldn't exist if it weren't for internet hunting forums.That and the cell phone. You guys think its so cool to call and bug them, but everytime you do it takes that much more time off their hands. When you are doing your job, do you like the phone ringing distracting you constantly. Try some patience. Its good practice for in the field.
We think its cool to call them and bug them? I know whats not cool and thats not having your special permit the day before the season begins! It would suck if I had to travel and couldn't leave home yet because I was waiting on the mail man to see if he had my permit!
Some people do apparently. "whens the draw? when are the new regs coming out? When is the raffle hunt draw? When is this draw when is that draw?" If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't, don't.
I'm just as anxious as the next guy for the results to come out and wish they were earlier but I know if I had to answer those questions all day long I'd come unglued.
Post by: Swatson on April 15, 2011, 06:29:30 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 15, 2011, 06:40:47 AM
Post by: dreamingbig on April 15, 2011, 07:01:46 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 15, 2011, 09:06:15 AM
Bobcat, Question for you. I think this has been talked about before but lest say you draw a Multi Season Elk tag. Can you apply for a Muzzy Cow permit and a Modern Bull permit?
Yes you can, and you can do it on both sides of the state too...
Post by: grundy53 on April 15, 2011, 09:08:18 AM
Bobcat, Question for you. I think this has been talked about before but lest say you draw a Multi Season Elk tag. Can you apply for a Muzzy Cow permit and a Modern Bull permit?
Yes you can, and you can do it on both sides of the state too...
Yup. I forgot to mention you can hunt both sides of the state.
Post by: Rob on April 15, 2011, 09:13:27 AM
from page 74 in the regs:
"Elk multi-season permit holders may hunt eastern and western Washington."
That is totally cool.
Post by: MDGrand on April 15, 2011, 09:20:58 AM
If I can get a deer multi this year I will be thrilled, If I can get an elk too, that would be over the top.. and add to the already bad ass season I have planed already:
Spring black bear in MT in April
Elk in ID in October
Deer in MT in Nov
All private access/guided/semi guided hunts.. :)
Good luck to you all!
Post by: blacktailcrzy on April 15, 2011, 10:47:25 AM
Bobcat, Question for you. I think this has been talked about before but lest say you draw a Multi Season Elk tag. Can you apply for a Muzzy Cow permit and a Modern Bull permit?
Yes you can, and you can do it on both sides of the state too...
Yup. I forgot to mention you can hunt both sides of the state.
so are you saying you can put in for archery/modern rifel/ml spical prmits for east and west so you can enter for elk six times? and what if you dont get drawn for any to you get six elk points for next year
Post by: jackelope on April 15, 2011, 10:51:26 AM
Post by: dreamingbig on April 15, 2011, 10:51:52 AM
If you get drawn for all three, then your points would be reduced to zero in all three.
Post by: jackelope on April 15, 2011, 10:55:16 AM
No. You would only have one additional point for each elk category (bull, quality, cow) if you are unsuccessful.
If you get drawn for all three, then your points would be reduced to zero in all three.
OH yeah duhh...there's no differentiation between east and west points.
Post by: grundy53 on April 15, 2011, 10:56:00 AM
Bobcat, Question for you. I think this has been talked about before but lest say you draw a Multi Season Elk tag. Can you apply for a Muzzy Cow permit and a Modern Bull permit?
Yes you can, and you can do it on both sides of the state too...
Yup. I forgot to mention you can hunt both sides of the state.
so are you saying you can put in for archery/modern rifel/ml spical prmits for east and west so you can enter for elk six times? and what if you dont get drawn for any to you get six elk points for next year
No, You still only get 2 choices for quality bull. you just have more to choose from. You don't get 2 choices for each you get 2 total.
Post by: blacktailcrzy on April 15, 2011, 11:10:47 AM
No. You would only have one additional point for each elk category (bull, quality, cow) if you are unsuccessful.
If you get drawn for all three, then your points would be reduced to zero in all three.
so can i put in for bull on east and west with every wepon
Post by: grundy53 on April 15, 2011, 11:12:58 AM
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on April 15, 2011, 11:13:39 AM
Post by: grundy53 on April 15, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 15, 2011, 11:21:00 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 15, 2011, 11:50:50 AM
[No. You would only have one additional point for each elk category (bull, quality, cow) if you are unsuccessful.
If you get drawn for all three, then your points would be reduced to zero in all three.
so can i put in for bull on east and west with every wepon
Are you talking the Quality category? You only get one Quality elk application, and you have two choices on that application. So for one hunt you could apply for an eastside archery permit, and for the other hunt you could apply for a westside rifle hunt. Or whatever. But you only get two choices.